Michael Flynn. Convicted felon. Should he still receive benefits as a retired military general? Should he now be court-martialed?

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 21 Dec 2018 18:03:56 -0500

Under Article 2 of the UCMJ, the Army maintains court-martial jurisdiction over retired personnel. Army Regulation 27-10, Military Justice, states “Retired members of a regular component of the Armed Forces who are entitled to pay are subject to the provisions of the UCMJ.

Response by CW5 Jack Cardwell made Dec 21 at 2018 6:11 PM

CW5 Jack Cardwell — Fri, 21 Dec 2018 18:11:49 -0500

Interesting but how much should he be punished?

Response by PO1 William "Chip" Nagel made Dec 21 at 2018 6:16 PM

PO1 William "Chip" Nagel — Fri, 21 Dec 2018 18:16:03 -0500

MSG Private RallyPoint Member Plead Guilty to Selling this Country Out to Turkey and by All Indications Sold this Country Out to Russia. Reasonable Question to Ask!

Response by CWO3 Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 21 at 2018 6:22 PM

CWO3 Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 21 Dec 2018 18:22:47 -0500

When is it enough? Did he commit any crimes while subject to UCMJ?

Response by SGT Lou Meza made Dec 21 at 2018 6:33 PM

SGT Lou Meza — Fri, 21 Dec 2018 18:33:06 -0500

I'm of the opinion that Gen. Flynn should not be punished twice for the same offense.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 21 at 2018 6:43 PM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 21 Dec 2018 18:43:37 -0500

AR 27–10 • 11 May 2016

Retirees.

Retired members of a regular component of the Armed Forces who are entitled to pay are subject to the provisions of the UCMJ (see UCMJ, Art. 2(a)(4)). Retirees are subject to the UCMJ and may be tried by court-martial for violations of the UCMJ that occurred while they were on active duty or, while in a retired status. Department of the Army policy provides that retired Soldiers subject to the UCMJ will not be tried for any offense by any courts-martial unless extraordinary circumstances are present. Prior to referral of courts-martial charges against retired Soldiers, approval will be obtained from Criminal Law Division (DAJA–CL), OTJAG, HQDA. If necessary to facilitate courtsmartial action, retired Soldiers may be ordered to active duty. Requests for active duty will be forwarded by electronic message through the Criminal Law Division (DAJA–CL), OTJAG, HQDA, to the Office of the Assistant Secretary of the Army (Manpower and Reserve Affairs) for approval.

Response by PO2 Robert Aitchison made Dec 21 at 2018 6:48 PM

PO2 Robert Aitchison — Fri, 21 Dec 2018 18:48:31 -0500

Good question, my answer is no to the benefits and no to being court martialed because of double jeopardy.

Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made Dec 21 at 2018 7:36 PM

MAJ Ken Landgren — Fri, 21 Dec 2018 19:36:15 -0500

I say leave his military pension alone if his infractions did not occur in service to the military. They are unrelated.

Response by MCPO Roger Collins made Dec 21 at 2018 8:32 PM

MCPO Roger Collins — Fri, 21 Dec 2018 20:32:01 -0500

Response by LTC Gary Earls made Dec 21 at 2018 8:35 PM

LTC Gary Earls — Fri, 21 Dec 2018 20:35:58 -0500

So the FBI can lie to you and not be punished but if you lie to the FBI then you go to jail. Something is wrong here.

Response by SGT Jim Ramge, MBA made Dec 21 at 2018 8:58 PM

SGT Jim Ramge, MBA — Fri, 21 Dec 2018 20:58:12 -0500

Just my humble opinion(s) which may or may not irritate some - I guess one would have to ask, because he didn’t do anything on active duty, how many times does he need be tried, convicted or otherwise?
Maybe because he wasn’t immediately brought back on active duty and subjugated to UCMJ, that the civilian court system superseded.
That said, if he did not face any crimes in a courtroom, then he could be brought back to active duty under the UCMJ based on the governing laws. Was the DTG with the new order written pre or post his actions being brought to light? How many in previous years, pre-governance would we have to bring back on active duty to face similar crimes that fall under the new directives?
Most directives work DTG forward, not backward. So unless written prior, with the same wording, I’d say he is in the clear. Would be like charging someone with an AR15 for something minuscule that occurred at a previous unit, not going to happen.
I get the clearance issues, had one for 20+ yrs myself... Am extremely pissed that Billory isn’t serving time! What she did was far worse an anyone that has had a billet knows that... Unfortunately, this day in age, it’s all politics at those levels of government - whom has what dirt in whom?
All the laws for this country’s protectionism’s went out the door when we let the court system rule over the signed documents that they each placed their own signature on when obtaining a clearance and let these asshats free from those obligations, Congress giving get-out-of-jail free cards away, or we have entitled presidents that let little shit-stains off because his new urinary tract infection status!
Personally, the General is done with his clearance. He did his time honorably in the public’s opinion. His name is Mudd - for those that know the history of that one. So to try him would be a waste of your and my tax dollars!
Besides, the worst case, he loses two stars, but still remains a GO and keeps his retirement and benefits - one of the privileges of being a GO. We just lift the carpet and sweep you under...
Are things going to change in our lifetimes, probably not to the degree we see any serving time!!! Like the NCO Corp, WO Corp, the GO/Flags have their own cohort and not too many of them are serving time if you look at Leavenworth! They have a special way of taking care of their own - and personally, I respect that they are... The NCO Corp took care of me!

Response by Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS made Dec 21 at 2018 9:18 PM

Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS — Fri, 21 Dec 2018 21:18:33 -0500

This is a great question. Mainly because there are serious constitutional questions.

First, we have the issue of Double Jeopardy. Generally speaking, this does not apply in military matters due to the "carve out" within the 5th Amendment. Second we have the issue of Retired Active Personnel still being considered military, whereas Discharged (like myself) or Reserve Retired are not.

This means that someone could have committed a crime that is not associated with the military or military service but being subject to Double Jeopardy, either with a Convicted and tried a second time, or in a Acquitted and tried a second time method. Personally, I think both of these are against the Framers intent when the 5a military carve out was established.

"No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation."

For reference: the operative clause "nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb" FOLLOWS "except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger" and seems negate the legal justification for Double Jeopardy (but not the proceeding clauses).

So.. My logic, despite precedent is:

No, we should NOT attempt to RECALL General Flynn for a Crime he has already been tried and committed for. It is counter to the plain reading of the Constitution. However, had the Military gotten hold of him first, it would have been "no foul."

That said, General officers do serve at the pleasure of the President, and there may be other legal recourse for stripping him of retirement pay and benefits. If I recall correctly, the service secretary has discretion to reduce rank based on last date served honorably, however, that may not apply in this case.

Response by SPC Erich Guenther made Dec 21 at 2018 9:38 PM

SPC Erich Guenther — Fri, 21 Dec 2018 21:38:50 -0500

Where is the legal precedent for this? What past Army or Marine Officer has been nailed under UCMJ for crimes committed while serving in the political sphere? LTC Oliver North kept his rank and pension, MG Secord, kept his rank and pension. If it was a multiple count felony and the government wasn't arguing lienancy.........possibly a different story but even with the government attempting to nail on the civilian side. Not a lot of precedent here that I can remember of Military Officers getting nailed under UCMJ if the Crime is committed while serving in the political side. I think it would open a can of worms if it were otherwise. Because we have sitting retired officers and sometimes Reserve Officers in the Congress..........have we ever stripped them of rank or pension for ethics violations (also statutory crimes, btw). If we have I just do not remember a case. I can imagine spiteful Liberals foaming at the mouth if it were otherwise. Perhaps that is why DoD avoids setting the precedent. Could also be intervention of POTUS at the time via Secretary of Defense.

Response by LTC Trent Klug made Dec 21 at 2018 10:47 PM

LTC Trent Klug — Fri, 21 Dec 2018 22:47:13 -0500

Ah, the sharks smell blood in the water. Flynn's career and finances are in tatters and you want to tear him further apart. Go ahead and have him brought up on charges under the UCMJ. I could care less either way it would go. If he violated the law, then he deserves to be punished.

Response by LTJG Richard Bruce made Dec 21 at 2018 11:09 PM

LTJG Richard Bruce — Fri, 21 Dec 2018 23:09:58 -0500

Case is not done yet. Hold your powder until needed.

Response by SMSgt Lawrence McCarter made Dec 22 at 2018 1:15 AM

SMSgt Lawrence McCarter — Sat, 22 Dec 2018 01:15:13 -0500

My feeling is that the offense wasn't due to Military service and if punishment was administered anyway it should either be one or the other, Military or Civilian. I feel that His Military retirement should be left alone and whatever penalty He may receive as a civilian should end the matter. Granted there are many things than can be done but in My opinion somewhere a line has to be drawn as to what is reasonable and what is overkill.

Response by SGT Chris Padgett made Dec 22 at 2018 2:16 AM

SGT Chris Padgett — Sat, 22 Dec 2018 02:16:13 -0500

Never gonna happen.
1. There is no historical legal precedent to justify the action.
2. The 5th Amendment trumps UCMJ. He cannot be punished twice for the same crime.
3. Prosecutors at the time had the option to pursue Art 2. They chose not to.
Regardless of the 5th, if you were to attempt this, you open a Pandora's box. Every retired service member ever convicted of a crime after retirement would be subject to the same treatment. The military has better things to do right now, don't you think?

Response by COL Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 22 at 2018 4:54 AM

COL Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 22 Dec 2018 04:54:53 -0500

Really! Stick to healthcare and leave the court-martials to commanders.

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 22 at 2018 7:02 AM

MSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 22 Dec 2018 07:02:42 -0500

So you are basically saying that any military retiree at any time should be recalled to active duty and punished under the UCMJ for any crumes they commit after their service has ended? Well I guess that is one way to lower the military pension budget...

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 22 at 2018 10:27 AM

MSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 22 Dec 2018 10:27:13 -0500

Response by CPT J B made Dec 24 at 2018 11:03 AM

CPT J B — Mon, 24 Dec 2018 11:03:45 -0500

I think they should waive anything that would cause him to lose benefits over this. I don't think he should be court-martialed. He's not a proper criminal. This was a political ousting by the dominant party in the government, nothing more. If we lived in Soviet Russia, he'd have been taken outside and shot in the head. Luckily we're more civilized and so political enemies only lose their jobs and reputations.

Response by LTC Ken Robinson made Dec 28 at 2018 11:19 AM

LTC Ken Robinson — Fri, 28 Dec 2018 11:19:45 -0500

Lt Gen Flynn should continue to receive his military benefits & pay!

Response by CPT Phil Bronner made Dec 30 at 2018 4:04 PM

CPT Phil Bronner — Sun, 30 Dec 2018 16:04:28 -0500

I find it strange that the initial assessments of the fbi hierarchy were that Flynn did NOT lie. Either the initial "302s" (interview notes/report of the agents) were destroyed, or none were completed until MONTHS after the interview...and all of a sudden he's "lying"????
Flynn did nothing illegal in speaking to the Russian diplomat...that was his JOB! I'm wondering what the "lie" was....that the conversation was on Tuesday, and not Wednesday???? I wouldn't doubt that in the least. As a retired LEO, I find it disgraceful that the fbi has again been weaponized for political purposes....it was bad enough under Hoover when he kept wiretaps and files on EVERYONE in DC....now, it seems to only pertain to one party....Disgusting.
Flynn should not suffer any more indignities and keep his pension.

Response by SFC David Pope, MBA made Jan 2 at 2019 12:49 PM

SFC David Pope, MBA — Wed, 02 Jan 2019 12:49:18 -0500

Why would Gen. Flynn lose all his benefits for this train wreck that was created politically? It is bad enough that we have a former Senator who lied to the FBI and got off completely free! General Flynn was caught up in a political Goat Screw, and the FBI got their panties in a twist.

Response by SrA Gina Hotard made Jan 4 at 2019 4:54 PM

SrA Gina Hotard — Fri, 04 Jan 2019 16:54:15 -0500

Ok....if someone retired or receiving compensation is convicted of a felony they lose monies while in jail and receive again once out. If they absconded while on felony probation it us lost until felony warrant fulfilled and they reapply for their monies with proof of discharge of warrant and receive their monies once again

Response by LTC Ken Robinson made Jan 5 at 2019 7:13 PM

LTC Ken Robinson — Sat, 05 Jan 2019 19:13:08 -0500

LTG Flynn is innocent of this charges! He should continue to receive his pension & all benefits he deserves. Further he should be compensated by the FBI on all his lawyer fees!!!

Response by SSG Robin Lawson made Jan 5 at 2019 8:24 PM

SSG Robin Lawson — Sat, 05 Jan 2019 20:24:24 -0500

You are then punishing him twice do you want to be punished twice if you mess up.

Response by 1LT Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 7 at 2019 11:32 AM

1LT Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 07 Jan 2019 11:32:56 -0500

Leave this man alone. He is a felon for lying under oath. The one trap the FBI guarantees to get anyone caught up if they cant get a solid indictment.

Response by SGT Charles Bartell made Jan 7 at 2019 2:02 PM

SGT Charles Bartell — Mon, 07 Jan 2019 14:02:01 -0500

You have to look at how the so called Interview was not done Legally. I.E. Gen Fylnn was told it was not on the record, and did not did any Counsel. Also the F.B.I. did not give any notice of the interview, And the F.B.I. agents stated that they believe Gen Fylnn did not lie about any thing to them. If any one looks at this with open eye's they can see that all this was a way to get Trump. Hell the F.B.I. can ask when was the last time you took a leak was? They can charge you with lying to the F.B.I., And convict you if you where one minute off. That is just the way the law goes with them. The sad fact's are that Gen Fylnn has lost all his savings and his home to pay for the lack of a better world TRUMPED UP CHARGES just to go after a Trump.

Response by CPO Craig Sawicky made Jan 8 at 2019 10:37 AM

CPO Craig Sawicky — Tue, 08 Jan 2019 10:37:24 -0500

Since the "Conviction"is questionable,ie whether there was actually a crime committed or not and seems to hindge one one person's opinion? A "Witch Hunt" was/is looking for ways to hang a President.Flynn,would not,or could not provide what they wanted,yet HE gets charged with something not associated with the reason for the "Investigation" in the first place.NO!

Response by SGT John Fielden made Jan 8 at 2019 10:45 AM

SGT John Fielden — Tue, 08 Jan 2019 10:45:14 -0500

There are many felons who receive retirement.
A COMMAND MASTERCHIEF at NAVAL BASE KITSAP was caught in a sting of a "Mother pimping her 12yo twin daughters".
He was retired as the civilians prosecuted him and although it was public, the Navy just swept it under the rug.
YES felons receive their retirement and VA benefits.
#OpenToTheContrary.

Response by SPC John Swann made Jan 8 at 2019 12:42 PM

SPC John Swann — Tue, 08 Jan 2019 12:42:27 -0500

Leave his pension alone !

Response by PO2 M. Shaheed Aadam made Jan 8 at 2019 2:56 PM

PO2 M. Shaheed Aadam — Tue, 08 Jan 2019 14:56:25 -0500

A Court Martial would be good because it will allow pure and impartial justice for him. That way he can be heard on his side of the story and may be scott free. I'm retired and I would want to be heard so that I can be not held for something that I didn't do.

Response by MAJ Patrick Hairston CISSP, AWS Certified Cloud Architect made Jan 8 at 2019 7:30 PM

MAJ Patrick Hairston CISSP, AWS Certified Cloud Architect — Tue, 08 Jan 2019 19:30:38 -0500

I dont know. I know that if I get convicted of a felony, I will lose my pension. While I did earn it, it was still a privilege to get one so early in life. I dont know, to be honest. We still have to uphold standards even in retirement, especially since we still hold the rank. Even though I'm retired, I'm still MAJ Hairston. I still get saluted at the front gate and I still can wear my uniform when I want to..

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 9 at 2019 5:52 AM

SSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 09 Jan 2019 05:52:57 -0500

I say think of that one general who retired as a general and than the sexual assault cases that reduced him down to 2 stars after he had been retired for awhile.
There is no reason for a Court Martial

Response by SFC Robert Walton made Jan 9 at 2019 9:10 AM

SFC Robert Walton — Wed, 09 Jan 2019 09:10:36 -0500

you want to chat and fail to read me my Maranda rights I am going to say what I want until you let me know I am being officially questioned.

Response by MAJ Robert Apostolos made Jan 9 at 2019 9:50 AM

MAJ Robert Apostolos — Wed, 09 Jan 2019 09:50:07 -0500

No and No! This has nothing to do with his military service and everything to do with politics.

Response by PFC Nicholas Wright made Jan 9 at 2019 10:54 AM

PFC Nicholas Wright — Wed, 09 Jan 2019 10:54:33 -0500

Did his crime effect his service? Did it get fellow soldiers injuries? Leave the man be let his civilian punishment stand no need to punish him twice.

Response by PO2 Brad Hunt made Jan 9 at 2019 2:13 PM

PO2 Brad Hunt — Wed, 09 Jan 2019 14:13:36 -0500

I believe that it may be up to a Courts-Martial to review the evidence and make a ruling based upon it and the applicable portions of the UCMJ

Response by LCpl Roy McMillan made Jan 9 at 2019 2:54 PM

LCpl Roy McMillan — Wed, 09 Jan 2019 14:54:32 -0500

Not just NO, but HELL NO!!! They (FBI) set a trap on illegally obtained rights to tap phone calls. Then made a big deal about Gen. Flynn speaking to someone he was supposed to be speaking with anyway. AND Obama's administration had created the issue which forced the Russian diplomat to call Gen. Flynn while he was on vacation in the Caribbean.

They then wanted him to remember everything he talked about on the phone and they had the recordings. They made false charges on an illegal sting.

Response by SFC Gary Burress made Jan 9 at 2019 7:18 PM

SFC Gary Burress — Wed, 09 Jan 2019 19:18:12 -0500

Flynn's conviction (plea) has nothing to do with his military service. He should keep his pension. I venture to say that the conviction won't stick anyway.

Response by COL Bart Butler made Jan 9 at 2019 8:18 PM

COL Bart Butler — Wed, 09 Jan 2019 20:18:28 -0500

Article 2 is there to allow the services to recall a retired member to active duty to face charges for infraction of the UCMJ while the retiree was still serving. It is not intended to create double jeopardy on a retired servicemember for civilian infractions occurring after retirement. The main reason for this is the presumption of guilt. Under the UCMJ you are presumed guilty till proven innocent while civilian federal, state, and local laws, codes, and ordnance’s assume you are innocent till proven guilty.

Response by LT Wild Bill made Jan 10 at 2019 6:31 PM

LT Wild Bill — Thu, 10 Jan 2019 18:31:19 -0500

leave him alone....process event...."crime" is an awful broad use of the word. Too damn many lawyers and lawyer thinking idiots out there. The whole business is nonsense. wb

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 10 at 2019 8:32 PM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 10 Jan 2019 20:32:33 -0500

I was surprised that OJ got to keep his NFL pension. Flynn offenses happened apart from his active career

Response by TSgt Maria O'Sullivan made Jan 10 at 2019 9:36 PM

TSgt Maria O'Sullivan — Thu, 10 Jan 2019 21:36:11 -0500

Leave his pension alone

Response by SMSgt Tracey Hogan made Jan 11 at 2019 4:02 AM

SMSgt Tracey Hogan — Fri, 11 Jan 2019 04:02:16 -0500

He served his country with Honor, he deserves better.

Response by Cpl Michael Milstead made Jan 11 at 2019 8:28 PM

Cpl Michael Milstead — Fri, 11 Jan 2019 20:28:14 -0500

No. We all have met people.

Response by COL FrancisTimothy Riley made Jan 12 at 2019 9:13 PM

COL FrancisTimothy Riley — Sat, 12 Jan 2019 21:13:04 -0500

Punishment enough. Other backstaping creepo generals slipped through with high pay and rewards over heaps of others without a even a slap.

Response by MSgt Jim Neufeld made Jan 13 at 2019 12:34 AM

MSgt Jim Neufeld — Sun, 13 Jan 2019 00:34:24 -0500

Leave his benefit alone. He earned them. This was a bogus investigation.

Response by SFC Bill Meeler made Jan 13 at 2019 10:42 AM

SFC Bill Meeler — Sun, 13 Jan 2019 10:42:45 -0500

Ok my 2 cents, the military chose to allow this to be charged in civilian court. If he is allowed to keep his retirement then all of those that came before him (rank immaterial) have been improperly penalized. If I am convicted of a felony I will have forfeit my military retired pay and VA disability for life. I will have to forfeit my Social Security while incarcerated or longer, that is the law! Why anyone, because they are, a Flag officer should be exempt from the law because of there rank, is beyond me. They are our leaders and are suppose to be setting an example.
Now the other side of the coin, if someone in the FBI lied to convict someone then they should be prosecuted and penalized at the same level as the person, or organization, they lied against! No if, and or buts. They should loose ALL benefits that apply to anyone else.
Neither of these people are above the law!

Response by LTC Peter Hartman made Jan 13 at 2019 6:24 PM

LTC Peter Hartman — Sun, 13 Jan 2019 18:24:39 -0500

Of course.

He was railroaded.

Response by SSG Shawn Mcfadden made Jan 13 at 2019 7:11 PM

SSG Shawn Mcfadden — Sun, 13 Jan 2019 19:11:05 -0500

Flynn is retired Military. I am also retired Military. Prior to me retiring from the Army, I got the same brief about this article as did Flynn. Not only is he facing the predicament he's currently involved in( as a GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEE I MIGHT ADD), but also when he was still a General in the Army, he divulged CLASSIFIED INFORMATION TWICE!!Flynn did more than 1/10th of what Hillary Clinton supposedly did. SHOW THIS BASTARD NO QUARTER AND CRUCIFY THE MOTHERFUCKER!!!

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 13 at 2019 9:53 PM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 13 Jan 2019 21:53:07 -0500

I say let's everyone concern themselves with their careers and their obligations.
Like a wise dude once said,
" ..let he who is without sin cast the first M203 round out..."

Response by SSG Wayne Work made Jan 13 at 2019 10:48 PM

SSG Wayne Work — Sun, 13 Jan 2019 22:48:02 -0500

Mr Flynn should be held accountable for his actions under the articles of the UCMJ. Also being a government office when he perform some of his actions the government can brig changes on that side too. If he does face a courts marshal for his action which have already been validated he should be reduced in rank to at least the level of a Colonel which at the least disallow him from pay of a general, benefits and allotments a two start of above is authorized. There are few other Generals that should be looked at for their lack leadership, ability to command on the battle field and the lack of confidence the JCS had on their performance.

Response by PVT Raymond Lopez made Jan 14 at 2019 8:36 AM

PVT Raymond Lopez — Mon, 14 Jan 2019 08:36:35 -0500

I have spent my whole life since I was seventeen years old in the military and law enforcement and I have lost count of the number of times I sworn an Oath to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States of America against all enemies foreign and domestic. I will be the first person to tell you that I have a divergent sense of humor that borders on the sick, perverted and utterly twisted. When reality exceeds my sick, perverted and utterly twisted sense of humor exponentially I really start to worry. Whenever I hear the phrase the Prince of Lies most people think of Satan, possibly some politicians, used car sales persons or others of others of similar ilk. I on the other hand know exactly who they are the friendly Army Recruiters. I knew Robert Swain Muller III as a dashing young second lieutenant of United States Marines. On the plus side he tried to better himself when he went to Army Airborne and Ranger Schools!

Response by PVT Raymond Lopez made Jan 14 at 2019 9:06 AM

PVT Raymond Lopez — Mon, 14 Jan 2019 09:06:07 -0500

I am sick and tired of the damned politics here I have spent my whole life since I was seventeen years old in the military and law enforcement and I have lost count of the number of times I sworn an Oath to uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States of America. (There was only one exception when I worked a police officer in the town of Quantico, Virginia I had to swear an oath to the Constitution of the Commonwealth of Virginia some of these families have been interbreeding since before the war that is the Revolutionary War. They still do not know they lost the Civil War. Just so you know under the United States Code perjury is defined as “(1) having taken an oath before a competent tribunal, officer, or person, in any case in which a law of the United States authorizes an oath to be administered, that he will testify, declare, depose, or certify truly, or that any written testimony, declaration, deposition, or certificate by him subscribed, is true, willfully and contrary to such oath states or subscribes any material matter which he does not believe to be true; or (2) in any declaration, certificate, verification, or statement under penalty of perjury as permitted under section 1746 of title 28, United States Code, willfully subscribes as true any material matter which he does not believe to be true; is guilty of perjury and shall, except as otherwise expressly provided by law, be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both. This section is applicable whether the statement or subscription is made within or without the United States subscription is made within or without the United States. Please explain to me how you could have carried out your official duties without a security clearance. By haps chance, mischance and coincidence Peter Strsok’s security clearance lapsed when I asked my friends who are both active and retired Special Agents of the Federal Bureau of Investigation there were comments of I having an over developed Oedipal complex and being born out of wedlock with a very hostile intonation which I confess that I have no knowledge of.

Response by Col Bill Marrs made Jan 14 at 2019 11:05 AM

Col Bill Marrs — Mon, 14 Jan 2019 11:05:45 -0500

His pension and benefits were earned during a distinguished career and most should be continued. Gen Flynn embarrassed all of us by his actions and has been convicted.

One of the most important privileges I have is attending military functions in uniform. Maybe convicted retiree-felons should not be allowed to wear the uniform. What about access to military facilities for convicted felons?

Response by SSG Jeffrey Monk made Jan 14 at 2019 3:14 PM

SSG Jeffrey Monk — Mon, 14 Jan 2019 15:14:11 -0500

Congress and ex still keep their bennys regardless of crimes. Once you earn the pension it should be yours. Its one of the few things I disagree with UCMJ and our retirement.

Response by PO1 Robert Wikert made Jan 14 at 2019 3:23 PM

PO1 Robert Wikert — Mon, 14 Jan 2019 15:23:07 -0500

Having looked it up, nowhere can I find where he should lose his retirement unless, convicted of treason. However he was working for a foreign country and then lied to the FBI...

Response by SPC Martin Meyer made Jan 14 at 2019 8:48 PM

SPC Martin Meyer — Mon, 14 Jan 2019 20:48:21 -0500

I believe this is separate from his military service in which he had an exemplary record. He should retain his military retirement. I know that when one is going to be taken to court on any level the cost can be prohibitive so plea agreements are done for that reason. Also, for a man of his status the trial would have been a public spectacle and he may also have done this to protect his family.

Response by SGT Juan Robledo made Jan 22 at 2019 3:14 PM

SGT Juan Robledo — Tue, 22 Jan 2019 15:14:54 -0500

Double Standards, but until the law apply to both, it's BS

Response by COL Bob Moore made Jan 29 at 2019 1:23 PM

COL Bob Moore — Tue, 29 Jan 2019 13:23:06 -0500

A bigger question.... does Chelsea Manning keep his?

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 30 at 2019 7:49 AM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 30 Jan 2019 07:49:05 -0500

I should doubt that the retired General would be Courts Martialed for what has happened while he was not in the military. Some parts of the UCMJ need to be over hauled and Article 2 is one of them. What a retired person does in his civilian life is not the business of the military. And Army Regulation 27-10 does not apply due to the fact that the retired person is no longer subject to military authority. If General Flynn had committed a crime when in the Army, then the UCMJ and the Regulation would apply. But this is not the case and therefore, precedence is that the civil authorities have jurisdiction in the matter and not Military.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 30 at 2019 9:03 AM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 30 Jan 2019 09:03:40 -0500

Considering that very VERY few people have ever been prosecuted for this "crime", I personally believe that his prosecution was selective. I believe he has suffered enough.

Response by PO3 John Wagner made Jan 30 at 2019 10:20 AM

PO3 John Wagner — Wed, 30 Jan 2019 10:20:55 -0500

I believe that rocks shouldn’t be thrown. Andrew Weismann is a known scumbag and dirty prosecutor. He has put innocent men in prison before and is a partisan hack of the foulest kind. Neither you nor I know exactly what happened so leave it alone.

Response by Capt Paul D'Amico made Jan 31 at 2019 12:29 AM

Capt Paul D'Amico — Thu, 31 Jan 2019 00:29:18 -0500

He is a commissioned officer - held to a much higher standard. He should do hard jail time and forfeit ALL of his pension.

Response by SSG Dave Mathews made Feb 1 at 2019 8:24 PM

SSG Dave Mathews — Fri, 01 Feb 2019 20:24:07 -0500

There seems to be a lot more going on than meets the eye. Most of the posters here have no more info than what was said on the news. I say leave the man alone and wait to see what transpires in the future, you may be more surprised than you know !

Response by SSG Dave Mathews made Feb 1 at 2019 8:27 PM

SSG Dave Mathews — Fri, 01 Feb 2019 20:27:05 -0500

There seems to be more going on than meets the eye. I say let the man alone an see what transpires in the near future. As usual people are making snap judgements on little or no information. Only what a news media happens to say at any given time. Sacrificing for your country doesn't mean death !!

Response by SPC Dean J. Thompson made Feb 6 at 2019 4:55 AM

SPC Dean J. Thompson — Wed, 06 Feb 2019 04:55:09 -0500

It is up to the court marshal board to decide what if any penalties are incurred. Don't believe he would lose all retired pay but if he is demoted or stripped of rank I don't believe there would be much left...I seriously doubt that it will come to that.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 6 at 2019 7:13 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 06 Feb 2019 19:13:55 -0500

Flynn was railroaded and use as a political pawn by the democratic liberal left. Leave the Guy alone! He's been through enough political Bullshit already...

Response by CWO4 Jerry Place made Feb 10 at 2019 7:34 PM

CWO4 Jerry Place — Sun, 10 Feb 2019 19:34:48 -0500

Political baggage is obscuring this question. Did Gen. Flynn plead guilt to crimes that occurred while he was on active duty? Based on what I've read, that is not the case. From everything I've read about Gen. Flynn, he served honorably. He pleaded guilty to crimes that occurred after his retirement, thus his pension and benefits for his honorable service should not be impacted.

Response by CW5 Ivan Murdock made Feb 13 at 2019 6:52 AM

CW5 Ivan Murdock — Wed, 13 Feb 2019 06:52:11 -0500

Taking politics out of it, he should maintain his benefits. He should not be court-martialed, almost a double jeopardy if that were to occur.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 26 at 2019 7:07 AM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 26 Feb 2019 07:07:07 -0500

https://www.military.com/daily-news/2019/02/22/supreme-court-retirees-can-be-court-martialed-crimes-committed-after-service.html

Supreme Court: Retirees Can Be Court-Martialed for Crimes Committed After Service

In denying a recent petition, the U.S. Supreme Court preserves UCMJ jurisdiction for retirees.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 26 at 2019 7:08 AM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 26 Feb 2019 07:08:27 -0500

Look out Flynn! Supreme court says you can be tried.

Response by CW4 Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 28 at 2019 7:21 AM

CW4 Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 28 Feb 2019 07:21:02 -0500

I am simply amazed that GEN Flynn has been persecuted for his actions as I understand them and Hillary Clinton is walking the streets after committing a much more gregarious offense. GEN Flynn should not have done what he did but he owned it. Hillary lied and deceived not just to congress but the American people. Not to hop on the current POTUS band waggon but lock her up!

Response by SGT Brad Morgan made Mar 6 at 2019 6:49 PM

SGT Brad Morgan — Wed, 06 Mar 2019 18:49:41 -0500

Seems regrettable that ex-military may be pressured to suppress their freedom of speech so not to endanger their family financial well-being. Given the political climate, it could be an extortion like instrument to keep certain opinions from being expressed by retired military.

Response by TSgt Jose Aurelio Pizarro Pizarro made Mar 11 at 2019 4:42 PM

TSgt Jose Aurelio Pizarro Pizarro — Mon, 11 Mar 2019 16:42:47 -0400

If he is convicted, when he enter the prison he lost his privileges and when he finish he had the benefits again.

Response by Sgt John Koliha made Mar 16 at 2019 10:54 PM

Sgt John Koliha — Sat, 16 Mar 2019 22:54:56 -0400

He EARNED the retirement benefits. Should keep them regardless of his current guilty plea or subsequent conviction(s). Earned Before his crime(s). Should keep them. Just my opinion, I could be wrong.

Response by PO1 Tom Follis made Mar 20 at 2019 1:07 PM

PO1 Tom Follis — Wed, 20 Mar 2019 13:07:32 -0400

I’m somewhat against ruining ones career or benefits unless they are truly deserving and, he may be. However, unless he’s put behind bars, all he has is his benefits. If you’re not going to damage his benefits, why a Court Martial?

Response by PO2 Steven Michaeli made Mar 22 at 2019 9:21 PM

PO2 Steven Michaeli — Fri, 22 Mar 2019 21:21:05 -0400

Though I forgot the names involved, there was a retired MSgt that emigrated to Israel. Since he was under 59 he was required to serve as an army reservist. The US government took his pension away. Several years later a retired US general that was born and raised in Estonia, returned there after they became independent of the USSR to become the chief of staff of their military. He had a story run about it in The Stars and Stripes and The Air Force Times and got to keep his pension. Reactivate this guy, bust home and reduce his pension to that of a private. Or is there one standard for officers and one for enlisted?

Response by LTC John Bush made Mar 30 at 2019 9:04 AM

LTC John Bush — Sat, 30 Mar 2019 09:04:07 -0400

This is a long way from being over. Flynn was a victim of the equivalent of a "Soviet-style show trial" and the drama is not over. Normally if you are convicted of a felony your eligibility for a pension is reviewed but there is a lot of room for exceptions.

Response by 2LT Earl Dean made Apr 1 at 2019 11:00 AM

2LT Earl Dean — Mon, 01 Apr 2019 11:00:55 -0400

Leave him be he did good time in service. What he did with Tump is with Trump.

Response by CH (CPT) Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 1 at 2019 12:51 PM

CH (CPT) Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 01 Apr 2019 12:51:59 -0400

I am not a legal expert, but the United States Army will not try to persecute General Michael Flynn simply because he did not commit any crimes punishable by the UCMJ to take away a General's benefits. Article 2 of the UCMJ has nothing on General Flynn as his lawyers would invoke the double jeopardy clause. UNLESS there is a smart ASS Jag officer who could pull one out of his or her cargo pocket to prosecute a General who has already been prosecuted. I will say let General Flynn BE!

Response by SSgt Robert Van Buhler III made Apr 5 at 2019 11:25 AM

SSgt Robert Van Buhler III — Fri, 05 Apr 2019 11:25:22 -0400

I would not screw him further. His conviction was political.

Response by MSgt John Hernandez made Apr 6 at 2019 12:01 AM

MSgt John Hernandez — Sat, 06 Apr 2019 00:01:44 -0400

General Flynn served honorably but I believe he should not lose all his retired pay however I do believe he should be subject to a court martial and a reduction pay.

Response by SPC Christopher Perrien made Apr 15 at 2019 8:28 AM

SPC Christopher Perrien — Mon, 15 Apr 2019 08:28:21 -0400

Ought to give him a medal.

Response by SCPO Lonny Randolph made Apr 15 at 2019 1:00 PM

SCPO Lonny Randolph — Mon, 15 Apr 2019 13:00:14 -0400

So to be clear here... The General "told a lie" to the FBI while being investigated for evidence of a crime that never actually occurred? And are you advocating that the General should loose his benefits because he testified improperly in an investigation that had no basis in reality to begin with? To turn the table on this question, suppose someone accused you of beating your wife (we will assume this has never happened); there was no corroborating evidence but the police investigate anyway. In the course of your questioning you are asked what you ate for breakfast and you omitted to include the second cup of coffee you drank with creamer in it. Having obtained contradictory evidence from your eldest child, the police charge you with lying; so after being convicted in a plea deal wherein you provided testimony about your eldest child speeding the week previously - we should take your retirement check away from you... Cuz... you lied... about a fake investigation... that should never have even been started... Does this cover it?

Response by COL Charles Cook made Apr 15 at 2019 8:49 PM

COL Charles Cook — Mon, 15 Apr 2019 20:49:08 -0400

Most deserving of a Presidential pardon of anyone I know. Framed by corrupt, dishonest politicians.

Response by MAJ Van Noah made Apr 16 at 2019 9:21 AM

MAJ Van Noah — Tue, 16 Apr 2019 09:21:48 -0400

Even those who are not fans of Micheal Flynn should have reservations about this sort of piling on. Dubious circumstances of his conviction. If the point is to eliminate all military retirees from being involved in politics for one party or the other then this sort of suggestion is how to restrict Vets from representing out nation. Not a good suggestion.

Response by CPO Gary Moeller made Apr 16 at 2019 3:51 PM

CPO Gary Moeller — Tue, 16 Apr 2019 15:51:29 -0400

I feel that he should not have been prosecuted in the first place.
Regardless of the UCMJ, he should keep his military benefits. He earned them in a way that had NOTHING to do with the White House!

Response by Capt Mark Strobl made Apr 16 at 2019 8:23 PM

Capt Mark Strobl — Tue, 16 Apr 2019 20:23:29 -0400

Pretty sure here: Unless the crime & conviction occurred under the jurisdiction of the USMC, I see no reason to impact the retirement benefits.

Any JAGs have an insight?

Response by SCPO Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 17 at 2019 6:23 AM

SCPO Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 17 Apr 2019 06:23:20 -0400

I think since he did his time in the Military and Retired (not Fleet Reserve as we call it in the USN). I believe he should be able to keep his benefits.

Response by SGM Cify Ale Marlow made Apr 17 at 2019 8:22 AM

SGM Cify Ale Marlow — Wed, 17 Apr 2019 08:22:24 -0400

Full pardon would take care of this

Response by PFC Kenneth Marshell made Apr 17 at 2019 11:25 AM

PFC Kenneth Marshell — Wed, 17 Apr 2019 11:25:58 -0400

Only if they are going to punish trump for his actions should this general lose his pension, trump’s getting away with his shenanigans with no problems. Leave his pension in place. At least he served and did not have his daddy get him out of it like trump did.

Response by Sgt James D. made Apr 17 at 2019 12:25 PM

Sgt James D. — Wed, 17 Apr 2019 12:25:36 -0400

back in 85 there was a retired msgt who came on base and did a hit and run while dui, he had been on base to see the wife of a marine deployed, it later came out he had been using his influence as a msgt to pressure her into an affair, he was brought back on to active duty court martialed and lost all his rank and his pension, and did 6 months in levenworth! generals are no different!

Response by Sgt Paul West made Apr 17 at 2019 1:32 PM

Sgt Paul West — Wed, 17 Apr 2019 13:32:51 -0400

I don't think he should be court martialed if the conviction isn't related to his military service and occured after his retirement. I do, however, believe that he should lose his benefits. Every other person would lose their benefits and the fact that he retired as a general should not make him above the law and standards that everybody else is held to.

Response by SSG William Zopff III made Apr 17 at 2019 1:37 PM

SSG William Zopff III — Wed, 17 Apr 2019 13:37:18 -0400

No. Gen. Flynn did not lie to an Army Officer, conducting an Army related Investigation. I do believe he should be released, because federal agents intentionally entrapped him. First, by telling him he didn’t need a lawyer, then, When asked the same questions they were intentionally trying to trip him up. This enable Mueller’s team to file charges of lying to the FBI, for the sole purpose of making it seem to the public that President Trump has surrounded himself with disreputable individuals. Political warfare!

Response by CPL Allene Higgins made Apr 17 at 2019 1:39 PM

CPL Allene Higgins — Wed, 17 Apr 2019 13:39:18 -0400

Yes

Response by SMSgt Ed Turney made Apr 17 at 2019 1:48 PM

SMSgt Ed Turney — Wed, 17 Apr 2019 13:48:07 -0400

YES, Yes, Yes. Conviction was a sham.Political at it best.

Response by Lt Col Ralph Swindler made Apr 17 at 2019 2:54 PM

Lt Col Ralph Swindler — Wed, 17 Apr 2019 14:54:41 -0400

He won't be a convicted felon for much longer. Trump will pardon him. He should never have been charged in the first place. He did not commit a crime. He only took the plea to lessen the financial burden on him and his family. He was the VICTIM of a politically motivated prosecution.

Response by CDR Eric W made Apr 17 at 2019 3:27 PM

CDR Eric W — Wed, 17 Apr 2019 15:27:09 -0400

Retired members only lose their retirement pay in matters of criminal disloyalty to the United States: espionage, treason, sabotage, etc. We have plenty of people in jail for heinous acts getting their retired pay. An old acquaintance of mine served 15 years for child pornography, only to get out of prison with a HUGE bank account. Not saying it's right, but the chicken shit stuff the Flynn was charged with don't deserve any loss of pay.

Response by PO3 John Wagner made Apr 17 at 2019 3:56 PM

PO3 John Wagner — Wed, 17 Apr 2019 15:56:08 -0400

Was he convicted legitimately? We don’t really know now do we?

Response by CPT(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 17 at 2019 5:34 PM

CPT(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 17 Apr 2019 17:34:31 -0400

I'm not aware of that UCMJ provision being used any time recently for actions that occurred after service. Now we have bought Soldiers back and prosecuted them for crimes that occurred during service. One is sitting on death row today.

Response by Craig Hatch made Apr 17 at 2019 7:02 PM

Craig Hatch — Wed, 17 Apr 2019 19:02:52 -0400

No, I think Gen. Michael Flynn was a patsy that was targeted by the democratic party, and, the Muller so called witch hunt investigation. Which may I add has found no criminal liability within the Trump administration! Gen. Flynn served this nation with distinction and honor, as well as with a patriotic duty that every American should have. It is sad that these people are put through the ringer for no reason other than a political gain to subsidize votes. Leave his pension alone, and leave him, his, family and the lives they live to their privy of their home. Why don't they take Hillary Clinton's pension away? For her crimes while she was in office as Secretary of State! In my opinion she, her boss (Obama), were the two biggest traitors in our American history!

Response by SPC Byron Skinner made Apr 17 at 2019 8:25 PM

SPC Byron Skinner — Wed, 17 Apr 2019 20:25:34 -0400

Sp4 Byron Skinner I wish General's/Admiral's retired could stand in a Courts Marshall. Be stripped of awards Medals and any post military benefits and prohibited for either writing or assisting other sin writing a book and any financial benefits the individual may get after he served his time would gp 100% to the US Government. His Passport would be revoked…The crime Michael Flynn and his sone were accused of and admitted to Robert Mueller III investigation for leniency in their sentences, which thy got everything but a Presidential Pardon which I think is in the making after the 2020 election. The reason we don't Court Martial Flag officers is the embarrassment it would cause the service and the release of classified information, he/she would have nothing to lose….Worst case example is the "Fat Leonard" case of bribery and just about everything else with about 1/3 of active serving Admirals caught up in it. Not one flag officers has been charged with any wrong doing in Fat Leonard. In fact one you become an 07 the UCMJ is meaningless as proved by a Marine Brigadier a few years who as a Colonel went to an Air Show in London with a Lockheed Lobbyest, which who he had a relationship with. A Few months layer he became the Marine Project Managere at Lockheed Martin ands crew up the job so bad and it cost billions to straighten out. The Punishmen the General was reduced to 06 Colonel and retired. No court Marshall. … To mention the Army in this history lesson. The Army in 2005 Brown and Root billed the US Army for $14 Billion is goods and services, Generals were involved in failure of command but a 05 Lt. Colonels was kicked outbox the Army and Brown and Root went back to doing what they had been doing. The reason they were the only company in the world that could do the contract.

Response by SSgt Elihu Lowery made Apr 18 at 2019 12:28 AM

SSgt Elihu Lowery — Thu, 18 Apr 2019 00:28:45 -0400

Do not believe the process crime of which he is convected of is a crime under the UCMJ. So why would he be stripped of his Retired Grade?

Response by PO1 Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 18 at 2019 4:08 AM

PO1 Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 18 Apr 2019 04:08:03 -0400

He has served this country with honor in all aspects and never got a chance to serve the president
he has lost everything he worked a life his time his home, savings, his reputation ECT Leave the pension and benefits alone hasn't his family been through enough

Response by PO1 Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 18 at 2019 4:11 AM

PO1 Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 18 Apr 2019 04:11:38 -0400

Leave his pension and benefits alone hasn't this man and his family been through enough they lost everything already, Someone should start a go fund me page so the family can pay for all the legal bills ETC

Response by SSG Mike Davis made Apr 18 at 2019 5:49 AM

SSG Mike Davis — Thu, 18 Apr 2019 05:49:16 -0400

He is a criminal

Response by CPT(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 18 at 2019 6:17 AM

CPT(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 18 Apr 2019 06:17:11 -0400

Because it was a politically motivated conviction.

Response by SSG Mike Davis made Apr 18 at 2019 7:21 AM

SSG Mike Davis — Thu, 18 Apr 2019 07:21:51 -0400

I excise the law on him or use it on know one!

Response by MAJ Christopher Colster made Apr 18 at 2019 8:05 AM

MAJ Christopher Colster — Thu, 18 Apr 2019 08:05:11 -0400

I vote strongly: he should receive all benefits and no, he should not be court-martialed. If you earn it, they shouldn't be taken away, it's a slippery slope....

Response by CW4 Larry Grice made Apr 18 at 2019 10:35 AM

CW4 Larry Grice — Thu, 18 Apr 2019 10:35:43 -0400

He should be pardoned, then reimbursed by DOJ for his legal expenses. He was trapped in a perjury scheme with the intent, and effect, of keeping him from exposing deep state crimes.

Response by SPC Gerard Curtis made Apr 18 at 2019 11:24 AM

SPC Gerard Curtis — Thu, 18 Apr 2019 11:24:27 -0400

I don't think he should lose it but it is a tricky area. Since the Army still has authority over Retirees they can take it. I'm a felon and it doesn't affect my Compensation but pension is a whole different ball game

Response by SFC Robert Allen made Apr 18 at 2019 12:25 PM

SFC Robert Allen — Thu, 18 Apr 2019 12:25:49 -0400

It was a misdemeanor, not a felony. There is really no further action worth taking.

Response by Frederick King made Apr 18 at 2019 1:32 PM

Frederick King — Thu, 18 Apr 2019 13:32:44 -0400

He's retired, and had a distinguished career. What happened after getting lured into politics, may not have been much of anything. Victim of leftist socialist dim party witch hunt.

Response by Pvt Timothy Velasquez made Apr 18 at 2019 6:56 PM

Pvt Timothy Velasquez — Thu, 18 Apr 2019 18:56:28 -0400

I think a good man was dragged down by the swamp .

Response by Sgt Clyde Sinclair made Apr 18 at 2019 8:07 PM

Sgt Clyde Sinclair — Thu, 18 Apr 2019 20:07:24 -0400

The General has served our country honorably and with distinction, he should continue to receive benefits and no court-martial is justified. Here we have an honorable soldier who has had his record and life blemished, all for someone's political gain. If men of the character of General Flynn are court-martialed, we are a sad nation indeed.

Response by MSgt Ralph Rodriguez made Apr 19 at 2019 11:41 AM

MSgt Ralph Rodriguez — Fri, 19 Apr 2019 11:41:13 -0400

The general is not guilty of any crime or anything else. He was set up by the FBI and the special counsel. For you to suggest this really identifies you as an anti-trump person. Get a life!

Response by SGT Forrest Stewart made Apr 19 at 2019 6:11 PM

SGT Forrest Stewart — Fri, 19 Apr 2019 18:11:01 -0400

Michael Flynn served our Country honorably. Not one single person was indicted for colluding, aka conspiring, with the Russian government . The "Trumped" up investigation known now as the Mueller Report, should never have happened.

Every person convicted because of the Mueller Investigation WOULD NOT have even been considered for indictment under normal circumstances.

Is lying to the FBI a crime? Is lying to Congress a crime? Is lying under oath under any circumstance illegal?

Of course, the answer is yes.

My question is thus: How come our prison system isn't overflowing with all of the Holier Than Thou people that run this Country who lie through their teeth every time they open their mouths?

End of rant.

Leave Michael Flynn's impeccable military career alone.

Response by Capt George Kent Brashear made Apr 20 at 2019 12:42 AM

Capt George Kent Brashear — Sat, 20 Apr 2019 00:42:12 -0400

I can't believe that this question is even coming up here. Even the FBI who talked with General Flynn said he did nothing wrong. His real crime was being on the Trump Team. Can this question be deleted? I hope someone will delete it. Good grief people.

Response by LCpl Glenn Kellar made Apr 20 at 2019 8:49 PM

LCpl Glenn Kellar — Sat, 20 Apr 2019 20:49:29 -0400

He put in his time, apparently honorably. Yes to the pension. He was apparently dishonorable post retirement. Yes, court martial

Response by COL John Turner made Apr 20 at 2019 9:03 PM

COL John Turner — Sat, 20 Apr 2019 21:03:36 -0400

No. The Gen. was trapped; he was made a tool of the deep state and of those who would trash our Constitution.

Response by COL John Turner made Apr 20 at 2019 9:04 PM

COL John Turner — Sat, 20 Apr 2019 21:04:22 -0400

No.

Response by Cpl Edward Conley made Apr 20 at 2019 10:27 PM

Cpl Edward Conley — Sat, 20 Apr 2019 22:27:05 -0400

He was set up by a bunch of Tump hating assholes that will never be worthy of licking his boots. It is a sad day in this country when a bunch of whiney bitches chose to go on a useless witch hunt and intentionally entrap innocent, decent heros and ignore the real criminals. So not only should he receive full retirement, he should be totally exonerated and have his life restored.

Response by LCpl Wesley Hall made Apr 21 at 2019 2:30 AM

LCpl Wesley Hall — Sun, 21 Apr 2019 02:30:54 -0400

Did his time, leave his Pension alone

Response by SSG Robert Perrotto made Apr 21 at 2019 2:43 AM

SSG Robert Perrotto — Sun, 21 Apr 2019 02:43:02 -0400

My answer to this is a resounding "NO". This was politically motivated, part of the oppositions fight against the duly elected President, many of the things that they are screaming, frothing, railing against, they wholeheartedly supported when the previous administration did similar things. How quickly we forget that a sitting President committed the country to an international agreement without congressional approval, or that a pallet of cash was flown to a country that has, time and again, espoused it's enmity to the United States. Or the fact that prior to departure, the then POTUS curtailed immigration from Cuba in response to Florida's voting red during the election.

Response by SSgt Richard Kensinger made Apr 21 at 2019 2:47 PM

SSgt Richard Kensinger — Sun, 21 Apr 2019 14:47:22 -0400

I hold top brass to be just as responsible after retirement as they do during active duty. He has betrayed our constitution.
I am a retired psychologist and professor. I maintain my ethical obligations to clients and students regardless. Allow the Code enforcers decide the penalties.
Rich

Response by Marlene Hessler made Apr 21 at 2019 5:28 PM

Marlene Hessler — Sun, 21 Apr 2019 17:28:28 -0400

What Mueller and his witch hunt team did to this Officer is despicable. No way should he be subjected to more of their harrassmane. I believe he plead 'guilty' to stop the bleeding. In the end, I believe he will be found 'not guilty' and should be compensated for all the damages.

Response by CDR Brian Erickson made Apr 21 at 2019 5:50 PM

CDR Brian Erickson — Sun, 21 Apr 2019 17:50:08 -0400

Well since it was all based on a BS FBI process crime that at any other time would likely have only resulted in a fine, I think he should be pardoned. Tell me how in the name of all that’s good does the designated incoming National Security Advisor wind up in this situation unless the scum bag Strzok ‘interviews’ him. That a$$wipe needs to prosecuted for his clearly biased investigations.

Response by SFC Richard Baerlocher made Apr 22 at 2019 12:41 AM

SFC Richard Baerlocher — Mon, 22 Apr 2019 00:41:54 -0400

I was stationed at Ft Leavenworth, and there were men there who were brought back for Courts Martial. The Federal courts can add the forfeiture of all military retirement pays, but it rarely happens. Only the military courts or the Federal courts can impose disciple on military personnel. there was an argument while I was assigned there that the Federal Courts have no jurisdiction over the military, but the Federal Appeals court won that argument. A case usually starts in the military courts system, then to the Court of military Appeals, then to the federal courts, so yes they could take his retirement pay if the imposing judge so declares, but only the judge imposing the original punishment.

Response by SSgt Brian Machin made Apr 24 at 2019 1:02 PM

SSgt Brian Machin — Wed, 24 Apr 2019 13:02:45 -0400

Yes, let a military court decide if a court martial is 2arranted.

Response by PO1 Richard Nyberg made Apr 24 at 2019 10:26 PM

PO1 Richard Nyberg — Wed, 24 Apr 2019 22:26:40 -0400

I think Gen Flynn got railroaded. He didn't deserve it.

Response by MSgt Mayo Sifford made Apr 26 at 2019 4:26 AM

MSgt Mayo Sifford — Fri, 26 Apr 2019 04:26:26 -0400

I suspect that trying General Flynn in a military court for the same offense would be double jeopardy. He may, however, be subject to a conduct unbecoming charge. Not being a JAG .....

Response by MSgt Robert Cunningham made Apr 29 at 2019 5:15 AM

MSgt Robert Cunningham — Mon, 29 Apr 2019 05:15:22 -0400

If discharge is honorable - he can still collect VA benefits

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 29 at 2019 1:52 PM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 29 Apr 2019 13:52:20 -0400

While as you assert, "Under Article 2 of the UCMJ, the Army maintains court-martial jurisdiction over retired personnel" the main purpose for this is for retirees who maintain ties and access to military instillations. So if they commit a crime on a military installation they can be charged under UCMJ. He was punished under the civilian judicial system for a completely unrelated, non-military offense and the vast majority of the time if (an active duty) soldier is punished by the civilian judicial system they are not punished by the UCMJ (unless there were associated offenses that the military maintained jurisdiction over that the civilian system did not charge against), so as not to be considered double jeopardy. The exception would be a General Officer Letter/Memorandum of Reprimand which may be placed in their file but is non-punitive. So yes, he should still receive his benefits and no he should not be court martialed.

Response by MAJ Jimmy M. made Apr 29 at 2019 9:27 PM

MAJ Jimmy M. — Mon, 29 Apr 2019 21:27:15 -0400

The charges will eventually be dismissed. Even the agent that interviewed him said that Flynn was not deceptive and didn't lie. Only Strzok, in a revised report, claimed Flynn lied. Andrew McCabe has hated Flynn for years. Flynn went to the defense of a woman that claimed that McCabe wrongfully discriminated against a female agent years prior. Obama also dislike Flynn because of the Iran deal. They were out to get him and then they did.

Response by MAJ Jimmy M. made Apr 29 at 2019 9:27 PM

MAJ Jimmy M. — Mon, 29 Apr 2019 21:27:49 -0400

Response by SFC Michael Peterson made May 6 at 2019 8:24 AM

SFC Michael Peterson — Mon, 06 May 2019 08:24:36 -0400

The only "crime" committed by General Flynn was, he lied to the FBI. Nothing he lied about was even illegal in the first place. If he would have told the truth, no charges could have been filed. What angers me is the double standard. Why can the FBI lie to us with impunity while, lying to them is a federal crime? I feel the same way about Congress. If I ever find myself being questioned by either, I will inform them that I will not answer any questions until the law is changed and lies on either side of the table are treated the same way.

Response by SPC Louis Copechal made May 13 at 2019 11:39 AM

SPC Louis Copechal — Mon, 13 May 2019 11:39:56 -0400

You think the same respect would be shown to a lower ranking soldier? If so guess what! You been fooled or misguided! 1 of the many reasons why i am glad i read every aspect about joining. The DoD can call you back to service and give you a DISHONORABLE discharge for felonies. Its what they do to keep their good standing graces. If an officer is found committing a crime they just get replaced into a different unit or area! ALL should be held to the same standards!

Response by SSG Branyn Burkhart made May 15 at 2019 10:50 AM

SSG Branyn Burkhart — Wed, 15 May 2019 10:50:45 -0400

Yes he should still receive benefits, and no he should not be court-martialed. The FBI investigators said they didn’t believe he lied to them, but Mueller wanted Flynn to flip on the President. Since he wouldn’t flip, they went all scorched earth on him, so the only reason he plead guilty to anything was to stop the bleeding and be done with this train wreck.

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made May 15 at 2019 11:22 AM

MSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 15 May 2019 11:22:48 -0400

There was a thread here just a week or so talking about members being pulled back into AD and court martialed. Rank does not mean you are above the law. I say do it; especially since he's a retired officer. What ever happened to leading by example?

Response by SSgt William (Bill) Pangrass made May 15 at 2019 1:50 PM

SSgt William (Bill) Pangrass — Wed, 15 May 2019 13:50:14 -0400

Since his conviction was a political hack job brought on by a phony investigation, he should receive everything he earned prior to the phony investigation.

Response by SSgt William (Bill) Pangrass made May 15 at 2019 1:55 PM

SSgt William (Bill) Pangrass — Wed, 15 May 2019 13:55:17 -0400

Absolutely should receive everything he earned while in service. The charges against him are a result of a politically motivated phony investigation & would never come up in a non political judicial system.

Response by PO2 Bill Hollister made May 15 at 2019 9:29 PM

PO2 Bill Hollister — Wed, 15 May 2019 21:29:04 -0400

First, we as ordinary folk don’t really know all that happened in his case. He served honorably for many years and that pension is earned The FBI has not shown itself to be a paragon of virtue or honesty in their recent Trump debacle so I say leave him alone!!

Response by PO2 Bill Hollister made May 15 at 2019 10:09 PM

PO2 Bill Hollister — Wed, 15 May 2019 22:09:54 -0400

No court martial and leave the pension he earned honorably alone

Response by CPO Richard Forsythe made May 15 at 2019 10:47 PM

CPO Richard Forsythe — Wed, 15 May 2019 22:47:51 -0400

Only for treason

Response by SN Chelle Peterson made May 16 at 2019 4:25 AM

SN Chelle Peterson — Thu, 16 May 2019 04:25:00 -0400

According to an article on Military.com "The U.S. Supreme Court has upheld the Defense Department's authority to prosecute retired service members for crimes they commit, even after retirement." Feb 22, 2019

Response by SMSgt Robert Runion made May 16 at 2019 7:28 AM

SMSgt Robert Runion — Thu, 16 May 2019 07:28:05 -0400

The man earned those benefits and since he was railroaded into the situation he is in by a bunch of zealous morons trying to unseat the President, let him the f^*& alone. I'm hoping for a Presidential pardon and let this man go home to his family and a life!

Response by PO1 David Shepardson made May 16 at 2019 9:39 AM

PO1 David Shepardson — Thu, 16 May 2019 09:39:13 -0400

Let the Armed Forces consider the UCMJ.

Response by COL Thomas Cagley made May 16 at 2019 9:53 AM

COL Thomas Cagley — Thu, 16 May 2019 09:53:18 -0400

General Flynn's retirement, etc, should not be touched. I realize this is a PC incorrect comment, but that was the biggest pile of BS ever thrown at an officer! Or enlisted member as well. General Flynn was not court martialed nor even brought up on UCMJ charges (I don't think).

Response by CW4 Craig Urban made May 16 at 2019 9:59 AM

CW4 Craig Urban — Thu, 16 May 2019 09:59:02 -0400

Yes

Response by COL Private RallyPoint Member made May 16 at 2019 11:55 AM

COL Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 16 May 2019 11:55:21 -0400

Anyone, private citizen, PFC or General who is not afforded legal counsel prior to an interrogation should not suffer due to the malfeasance of those who took part in the 'scheme'. Based on the information thus far released about Gen Flynn's interrogation, it is obvious to me that he was not afforded legal counsel. BTW, it is General Michael Flynn, not Michael Flynn.

Response by SFC Clinton D. Washington made May 16 at 2019 12:11 PM

SFC Clinton D. Washington — Thu, 16 May 2019 12:11:27 -0400

What ever the provisions that are in place for these charges as it apply should be what's imposed IAW the regulations; however everything in the USA can be waived except death so it is what it is. We live in a world were in most cases what good for one is good for all, but you can believe that if you live under a rock.

Response by SP5 William OMalley made May 16 at 2019 12:33 PM

SP5 William OMalley — Thu, 16 May 2019 12:33:38 -0400

Yes

Response by SP5 Francis Moran made May 16 at 2019 12:44 PM

SP5 Francis Moran — Thu, 16 May 2019 12:44:08 -0400

Perhaps the military could wait until sentencing. The judge may dismiss. It's likely POTUS will pardon him anyway

Response by SN Jim Burton made May 16 at 2019 6:44 PM

SN Jim Burton — Thu, 16 May 2019 18:44:04 -0400

Leave the man alone. Leave his benefits intact. He served our country faithfully for decades. He earned his benefits. He did nothing wrong during his service.

Response by SPC Michael Gellin made May 16 at 2019 7:08 PM

SPC Michael Gellin — Thu, 16 May 2019 19:08:08 -0400

He absolutely should get his pension. He’s a great American!

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made May 16 at 2019 10:30 PM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 16 May 2019 22:30:38 -0400

I Don’t know why he lied in the first place. As the incoming NSA, his conversations with foreign countries was perfectly acceptable. It’s my opinion he was trying to protect his boss. Not a smart move, but understandable. Hard to imagine making that a felony though. Politics aside, the man served his country honorably for many years. Leave his retirement alone.

Response by SP5 Michael Chism made May 17 at 2019 3:36 AM

SP5 Michael Chism — Fri, 17 May 2019 03:36:42 -0400

Leave his pension alone...

Response by SP5 Michael Chism made May 17 at 2019 3:38 AM

SP5 Michael Chism — Fri, 17 May 2019 03:38:24 -0400

And I really believe he should not be charged..

Response by 1LT Private RallyPoint Member made May 17 at 2019 7:31 AM

1LT Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 17 May 2019 07:31:59 -0400

He served honorably for decades. He is now a criminal but that doesn't "delete" his service to the country. He is now also a felon, forever and he will be punished for that. Taking his benefits would be additional punishment that I believe is unnecessary.

Response by SPC Joel Lopez made May 17 at 2019 7:40 AM

SPC Joel Lopez — Fri, 17 May 2019 07:40:43 -0400

The man's gotta live on some income. I'd say allow his benefits only & if he's been properly punished for his crimes, has cooperated completely & accepts his punishment like a true honorable man.
~US Army Vet.

Response by 1SG Jeffrey Mullett made May 17 at 2019 8:50 AM

1SG Jeffrey Mullett — Fri, 17 May 2019 08:50:35 -0400

If a former General Officer of the United States works with a hostile foreign government, then lies about it, he disrespects the uniform he wore and the service. He sold out.
I'm sorry, he was not entrapped or deceived, he was caught doing something he knew was wrong. So, the FBI lied to him to get him to expose his activities...that's part of the process.
He gets what he gets. If the Courts Martial decides he can maintain his benefits, that is the decision I would be able to live with, equally, if they decide to strip him of his benefits, I feel that is justified because he disrespected the uniform and the people he served with.

Response by CH (LTC) Private RallyPoint Member made May 17 at 2019 10:39 AM

CH (LTC) Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 17 May 2019 10:39:21 -0400

General Flynn's offense was a process crime and dubious at best. He was squeezed in order to make him testify in the Special Counsel's investigation, much like what the government does to organized crime figures. In no way should his military retirement be touched, and court-martialed for what? Even the FBI did not think he lied after he was interviewed ... the charge came later, again to force his testimony.

Response by LCpl Cody Collins made May 17 at 2019 11:32 AM

LCpl Cody Collins — Fri, 17 May 2019 11:32:30 -0400

Leave his pension alone, if that's the case I know a lot of military generals and higher UPS in all 4 branches that I am better than places like Lockheed Martin, Boeing , And other defense contractors cutting deals left right and center that would not be seen at exactly legal. So leave the guy , alone don't make his family suffer.

Response by SFC Mark Klaers made May 17 at 2019 2:36 PM

SFC Mark Klaers — Fri, 17 May 2019 14:36:09 -0400

As his infraction was "discovered" unconstitutionally, I don't know why he should be in jail, much less not
receive his pension.

Response by PVT Dale Downer made May 17 at 2019 5:00 PM

PVT Dale Downer — Fri, 17 May 2019 17:00:03 -0400

It was a process crime by a witch hunt and he may even be pardoned. Leave his pension alone because he had distinguished service.

Response by 1SG Jerome Mattingly made May 17 at 2019 5:11 PM

1SG Jerome Mattingly — Fri, 17 May 2019 17:11:55 -0400

Leave Gen Flynn alone, He put in a lot of hard years to earn that retirement, if they must then do something else as a civilian. Leave his earned military retirement alone.

Response by 1SG Bill Bellomy made May 17 at 2019 8:11 PM

1SG Bill Bellomy — Fri, 17 May 2019 20:11:21 -0400

To caveat this, I have served with both Mike and Charlie Flynn. Leave the man alone, he served as a patriot and I really must question what motivated the original question.

Response by MSgt Kevin Mills made May 18 at 2019 7:41 AM

MSgt Kevin Mills — Sat, 18 May 2019 07:41:30 -0400

“Lock her up”! From a retired general! What a nut. Yes, he should be court-martialed. Held to a higher standard.

Response by CPT Robert Kennedy made May 18 at 2019 11:30 AM

CPT Robert Kennedy — Sat, 18 May 2019 11:30:32 -0400

Just like a federal offense. Once you've done the time for your offense you shouldn't be continuously penalized afterwards. If he was already retired it should have nothing to do with his retirement the UCMJ needs to be updated.

Response by LTC Ted Blasche made May 18 at 2019 11:55 AM

LTC Ted Blasche — Sat, 18 May 2019 11:55:19 -0400

Not really a debatable point. If he's convicted of a crime concerning national security, it will be automatic. When the judge mentioned treason, he was being placed on notice. Lesser crimes may not affect his retirement, and that's why this part of his sentence is so important for him.

Response by MSgt Gregory Balint made May 18 at 2019 3:14 PM

MSgt Gregory Balint — Sat, 18 May 2019 15:14:38 -0400

Not sure or knowledgeable in military justices. Gut feeling is that as a career general officer however he was aware of consequences associated with his decision to conduct foreign policy discussions with known American adversaries. So with that would recommend reduction in his retirement rather than full termination.

Response by PO2 Bill Beckwith made May 18 at 2019 4:06 PM

PO2 Bill Beckwith — Sat, 18 May 2019 16:06:15 -0400

He should rec. his pension. All that he was put thru was total "BS" it should be removed from his record, by Presidential pardon so his record is totally clean.

Response by SP5 Charles Pedrey, Jr. made May 18 at 2019 4:30 PM

SP5 Charles Pedrey, Jr. — Sat, 18 May 2019 16:30:02 -0400

General Flynn was baited by dishonest FBI tactics and the felony conviction should be dismissed and he should be pardoned and his record should be corrected.

Response by CSM Gerald Turpin made May 18 at 2019 11:54 PM

CSM Gerald Turpin — Sat, 18 May 2019 23:54:55 -0400

No. A waste of time and money.

Response by MSG Pete Miller made May 19 at 2019 6:52 AM

MSG Pete Miller — Sun, 19 May 2019 06:52:36 -0400

Apparently the Supreme Court has ruled that retirees are liable for courts martial for offenses committed after retirement. If retired enlisted personnel and retired officers are or have been court-martialed then the general should be treated similarly.

Response by SrA James Cannon made May 19 at 2019 11:44 AM

SrA James Cannon — Sun, 19 May 2019 11:44:58 -0400

I think they should leave this guy alone. Let him ride off into the sunset peacefully.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made May 19 at 2019 9:07 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 19 May 2019 21:07:57 -0400

Good question, I would have to say if he commented a felony then yes he should loose his benfits. However he could apply to get his benfits back after he serves his sentence.

Response by LCpl Mike Buck made May 20 at 2019 1:56 AM

LCpl Mike Buck — Mon, 20 May 2019 01:56:07 -0400

I think they do enough to screw with US vets leave him alone.

Response by MSgt David Webb made May 20 at 2019 6:17 AM

MSgt David Webb — Mon, 20 May 2019 06:17:31 -0400

Revoke all future pay and benefits!!!

Response by CPO Arthur Gearhart made May 20 at 2019 1:24 PM

CPO Arthur Gearhart — Mon, 20 May 2019 13:24:19 -0400

NO ! He served his country honorably, he should not be punished any further for his mistake after retirement....isn't he entitled to a second chance ?

Response by SSG Otis Hester made May 21 at 2019 12:31 PM

SSG Otis Hester — Tue, 21 May 2019 12:31:50 -0400

I am unfamiliar with this case, but if it is a matter of going to Russia and communicating with the Russian government, then he is no more guilty than both of the Clintons. If he served honorably until retirement, he is entitled to his pension, unless he has to go to prison for his infraction.

Response by MSgt J D McKee made May 21 at 2019 1:05 PM

MSgt J D McKee — Tue, 21 May 2019 13:05:05 -0400

Fuck yes. And Fuck no.

What he did was somehow get himself between two political parties and he is collateral damage in a political fight. I don't even know what he allegedly did, nor do I care, nor would I remember tomorrow if someone told me today. Who gives a shit. He didn't betray his country. He served it for some long time enough to be able to retire. He did nothing that rises to the level to counterbalance his service.
Most of the time, when a military officer (yeah, generally officers) puts themselves into the political arena, they end up fucked up. Like LtCol North, for example. So, were I an officer, I never would, and I surely won't ever deal in politics now. That was his big mistake.

Response by SSG Dave Johnston made May 25 at 2019 4:40 PM

SSG Dave Johnston — Sat, 25 May 2019 16:40:33 -0400

If AG Barr creates a major "Ufta" over the "Russia Collusion" fiasco, James Comey, the DNC, CGI, and the DOJ could be doing some really serious @$$ kissing and apologies with $$$. Remember, he was doing his job as National Security Advisor when he was ambushed by the FBI...

Response by Col D S made May 26 at 2019 4:51 PM

Col D S — Sun, 26 May 2019 16:51:19 -0400

Not a “convicted” felon. Plead guilty to a “crime” he didn’t commit to avoid the cost and harassment of going through a sham “trial”. Even the FBI agents who interviewed him said he didn’t lie.

Response by CW4 William Kessinger made May 29 at 2019 11:17 AM

CW4 William Kessinger — Wed, 29 May 2019 11:17:05 -0400

I think the military UCMJ covers all this without our input. It all depends on how and if he was convicted of a crime covered by UCMJ. That whole mess in Washington is not worth getting into. It all depends on which side of the party you're standing on. Trying to cover your commander-in-chief puts a big red target on your back. So, so sad.

Response by CPT Mike Sims made Jun 9 at 2019 10:42 PM

CPT Mike Sims — Sun, 09 Jun 2019 22:42:04 -0400

I would first question what crime if any was committed by LTG Flynn? If there was a coup attempt against the President, and it appears that there was, and if the FBI was involved in this coup attempt (as it seems that some senior officials were), then LTG Flynn may have actually acted in accordance with his oath as a Soldier and an Officer - to "support and defend the Constitution". Here, it seems that the Constitution and rule of law was / is in jeopardy by those loyal to and connected to Hillary Clinton and Obama who likely directed officials of the Justice Department, the FBI, and the Intelligence Community to engage in conspiracy, public corruption, sedition, subversion, possible espionage and treason in an effort to interfere or prevent a rightfully and duly elected official (President Trump) from taking office or holding office or maintaining office as President and Commander-in-Chief, which has since amounted to a failed political coup attempt. Therefore, LTG Flynn as a military officer, has a duty to uphold the Constitution - and he may have been a political prisoner undergoing what could be considered torture and forced coercion - for which he had not lied but rather evaded questions by hostile and unlawful interrogators masking as FBI Agents who had long since dishonored their oath and tarnished the badge the American people entrusted them with, therefore, he has no obligation to cooperate with. So his actions warrant praise as opposed to scrutiny as many men or women of his same rank may not have been able to resist such an attack on their character, career, and more importantly their family. I offer this statement as an experienced Counterintelligence (CI) Special Agent and National Security Crimes Investigator who has reviewed and followed this case quite extensively and welcome any arguments by those who wish to dispute facts or engage in professional discussion.

Response by LTC Ken Robinson made Jun 10 at 2019 9:33 PM

LTC Ken Robinson — Mon, 10 Jun 2019 21:33:19 -0400

No to Article 2 of UCMJ.

Response by Sgt Tee Organ made Jun 11 at 2019 10:25 AM

Sgt Tee Organ — Tue, 11 Jun 2019 10:25:39 -0400

Who prosecuted him? And why? This carries as much weight as his convection, and to be quite honest if he has to pay (twice) for his crimes than his accusers should have to pay double for theirs. This is why circuses have clowns but aren't run by clowns. At some point you have to take your job seriously.

Response by SSgt James Holt made Jun 11 at 2019 7:03 PM

SSgt James Holt — Tue, 11 Jun 2019 19:03:37 -0400

General Flynn served honorably his entire adult life up to his retirement. He served well and faithfully, or he wouldn't have been promotable and thus would not have attained flag rank. Beyond that, the road from one star to more stars is an increasingly steep path strewn with land mines. The slightest slip-up and your career is over, and the maddening thing about that is the career-ending slip-up as often as not is committed by someone else. General Flynn earned his pension leave it alone.

Regarding his disgrace, General Flynn as a member of the transition team on the Trump administration met with Russian diplomats within the scope of his employment as part of an effort on the Trump team to formulate their Russian Policy Plan. Nothing the President-elect or any of his staff members could do would have official sanction. The Obama Administration jealous to defend his administration's legacy elected to interfere with the President-elect's staff alleging they were undercutting the current sitting President's policy regarding Russia.

The FBI investigated and at some point ask the general about some fine point regarding their discussions with the Russians and gave an answer. Later on after further questioning in other areas a different investigator returned to that fine point on which they'd gotten an answer already and asked the same question using slightly different words under different enough context that the answer the General was likewise slightly different in verbiage different enough that it represented a minor inconsistency in the mind of at least one investigator. That is what is called the interrogatory perjury trap. In court, if a question is asked and answered and then the question is asked again in a remolded form. Your attorney can object and state his or her objection being based on asked and answered. In an interrogatory in a discovery interview, your attorney may or may not be present and even if present limited to what he or she may object. Rule one; refuse to discuss anything what so ever with opposing counsel without your counsel being present and at least able to give counsel as to how your answers should be framed.

The lead FBI investigator reportedly stated he found no material inconsistency in the General's responses. One of the other investigators let leak the fact that a minority of the investigators believed the General intended to be false or to lie with his answer. This discrepancy then got blown out of proportion conveniently from that Illegal leak and an honorable man's reputation smeared by an illegal leak of an inconsequential difference in the way two questions on one particular point were answered in slightly different terms. I am reading a Book on my Kindle by Stephen Koonts the author flight of the intruder and other books about naval aviation. This book is titled Liberty's last stand. GREAT book I highly recommend it.

Response by SGT Joseph Armacost made Jun 12 at 2019 12:25 PM

SGT Joseph Armacost — Wed, 12 Jun 2019 12:25:00 -0400

He is only guilty of the unfair department of justice of a fake perjury trap!

Response by LCDR Glenn Adwell made Jun 22 at 2019 6:31 AM

LCDR Glenn Adwell — Sat, 22 Jun 2019 06:31:54 -0400

He is NOT a convicted felon. Have a nice day!

Response by PO3 Eugene Rizzardi made Jun 23 at 2019 9:48 AM

PO3 Eugene Rizzardi — Sun, 23 Jun 2019 09:48:41 -0400

Leave it alone, he cannot do much

Response by SGT Jay Ehrenfeld made Jun 24 at 2019 10:33 AM

SGT Jay Ehrenfeld — Mon, 24 Jun 2019 10:33:12 -0400

Any General whose retired are on Active status still until their death and receive retirements that all retirees regardless of rank, ESP General Officer. until the age of 75.

Response by CAPT Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 25 at 2019 4:48 PM

CAPT Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 25 Jun 2019 16:48:02 -0400

Would we repeal the pension of a woman, who, 10 years after retiring from the service, is convicted of a serious crime like arson or even murder? Would we recall her to do a court-martial? The answer is no. Her service would have nothing to do with this crime. Pension has been earned, and she keeps it. Flynn should keep his.

Response by SFC Wayne Garcia made Jun 29 at 2019 6:09 AM

SFC Wayne Garcia — Sat, 29 Jun 2019 06:09:43 -0400

They should deny his benefits. They would to enlisted.

Response by MSgt John H. McLeaish III made Jul 4 at 2019 11:58 PM

MSgt John H. McLeaish III — Thu, 04 Jul 2019 23:58:04 -0400

An honest straight forward JAG would absolutely bring UCMJ action. Lt Gen Flynn's action constitute conduct unbecoming, potentially treasonous, and lying to both congressional and federal officers are punishable under the UCMJ.
Failure by the US Army to prosecute Lt Gen Flynn gives creedence to privilege over justice and that lack of honor would undermine the United States Army.

Response by SGT John Creager made Jul 5 at 2019 12:26 AM

SGT John Creager — Fri, 05 Jul 2019 00:26:24 -0400

Leave the man alone Obama's deep state ripped him, hell folks Flynn is broke financially leave him alone. We know the FBI tricked him and he did not have lawyers present when beign questioned. So how in the hell could that have been used against him. That is illegal in every court but the kangaroo courts of obamas people.

Response by GySgt Thomas Vick made Jul 7 at 2019 1:39 PM

GySgt Thomas Vick — Sun, 07 Jul 2019 13:39:14 -0400

The way I understand it Gen. Flynn was denied his constitutional rights and should be restored anything that was taken from him. Believe me I don't think this battle is anywhere close to being over.

Response by CW3 Paul Fitch made Jul 11 at 2019 11:51 AM

CW3 Paul Fitch — Thu, 11 Jul 2019 11:51:36 -0400

Leave him alone. His CRIME was being useful to the Trump Administration.

Response by CSM David Brock made Jul 18 at 2019 3:09 PM

CSM David Brock — Thu, 18 Jul 2019 15:09:03 -0400

There is to much favoritism in certain ranks in the military when it comes to UCMJ. This is wrong. You violate an Article you should be punished.

Response by 1st Lt Richard Austin made Jul 28 at 2019 2:32 AM

1st Lt Richard Austin — Sun, 28 Jul 2019 02:32:10 -0400

Leave him alone. In fact, I hope Trump pardons him. He simply got caught up in an overzealous witch hunt trying to destroy President Trump and they could find NOTHING. To believe this bogus attempt at an investigation if LAUGHABLE. NO COLLUSION, NOT OBSTRUCTION...NOTHING. Wait until the pendulum swings the other way and the democrats get investigated. Jail time for MANY democratic politicians.

Response by SSgt Robert Gainer made Aug 13 at 2019 5:19 PM

SSgt Robert Gainer — Tue, 13 Aug 2019 17:19:16 -0400

OK was he convicted under UCMJ? Until then he deserves the benefits. Civilian court convictions only apply if he is put in prison can't double-dip.

Response by Sgt Allen Haney made Aug 16 at 2019 1:39 PM

Sgt Allen Haney — Fri, 16 Aug 2019 13:39:49 -0400

General Flynn should keep his retirement pay and benefits. What happened is very dirty and tainted with politics. If the FBI comes after you or anyone else while being pushed by the head of the FBI you will be found guilty of something and thats what happened.

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 17 at 2019 8:46 AM

CW3 Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 17 Aug 2019 08:46:38 -0400

This is just sad. Why go after someone for an action that did not occur during their service? His service was honorable. Leave him alone.

Response by LT Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 26 at 2019 1:48 PM

LT Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 26 Aug 2019 13:48:19 -0400

I think there is a need to wait for the IG to release its report. If his evidence was obtained through criminal wrongdoing than the fruits of the poisonous tree should apply. That fact that he plead complicates things. Then again will we ever know the true story? I say no for now.

Response by PVT Mark Zehner made Sep 2 at 2019 11:01 AM

PVT Mark Zehner — Mon, 02 Sep 2019 11:01:39 -0400

Yes it wasn't military related

Response by SPC Earl Semler made Sep 12 at 2019 8:29 PM

SPC Earl Semler — Thu, 12 Sep 2019 20:29:07 -0400

The only question the military has to answer does double jeopardy apply? Also will a court martial charge be enough to take his pension away ie: Conduct Unbecoming.

Response by CWO3 Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 15 at 2019 3:39 AM

CWO3 Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 15 Sep 2019 03:39:27 -0400

MSG Rich Bojorquez-Davila,
You are correct about the articles and regulations of the United Code of Military Justice.
But if you were in his shoes, as a Maj Gen Retired, in his position. What would you do? As a Marine Mustang, I know what I’d do. Follow the Rules and Regulations that are currently in place. But, this is an Army jurisdiction, and I’ll keep my comments myself.

Response by LCpl Michael Cappello made Sep 15 at 2019 7:47 PM

LCpl Michael Cappello — Sun, 15 Sep 2019 19:47:05 -0400

Leave the poor bastard alone. He should have never been charged, much less have pleaded guilty. He did nothing that any other politician hadn't done. Where was the prosecution when both Obama and Kerry blatantly interfered with Trumps foreign policy? They actually did break laws with what they did. Trump should pardon him and give him a medal.

Response by Col D S made Sep 30 at 2019 2:44 PM

Col D S — Mon, 30 Sep 2019 14:44:28 -0400

Yes he should. And he wasn’t “convicted”. He plead guilty to a crime he did not commit - that even the FBI said he did not commit. And he did so to make the madness stop and avoid personal financial ruin from legal bills.

Response by SFC Pamela Williams made Sep 30 at 2019 4:02 PM

SFC Pamela Williams — Mon, 30 Sep 2019 16:02:25 -0400

he was retired when he committed his crime, therefore his military retirement does not pay a part in his punishment.

Response by CSM Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 7 at 2019 7:29 PM

CSM Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 07 Oct 2019 19:29:40 -0400

The list of General Officers who have broken the rules include Dwight D. Eisenhower (Kay Summersby) and David Petraeus (Paula Broadwell). I'm not sure we need to worry about General Flynn, who pled guilt to lying to the FBI, even though the investigators said he was truthful.

Response by LCDR Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 8 at 2019 7:46 PM

LCDR Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 08 Oct 2019 19:46:05 -0400

Just can't help continuing to go after the guy, eh?

Response by MSgt Ray Hill made Oct 29 at 2019 4:56 PM

MSgt Ray Hill — Tue, 29 Oct 2019 16:56:53 -0400

No! If he is retired from the military, his pension SHOULD NOT be touched. He earned it for "SERVICES RENDERED!

Response by MAJ Hugh Blanchard made Nov 3 at 2019 9:00 PM

MAJ Hugh Blanchard — Sun, 03 Nov 2019 21:00:39 -0500

I served with Michael Flynn. He was a fine officer who got caught up in intrigues not of his own making. I feel badly for him. Leave his pension alone, for God's sake.

Response by SFC Sgt Bmac made Nov 6 at 2019 7:30 AM

SFC Sgt Bmac — Wed, 06 Nov 2019 07:30:13 -0500

I say he should have stayed in his place. Yes take his pension away

Response by Cpl Geoff Smith made Nov 12 at 2019 3:23 PM

Cpl Geoff Smith — Tue, 12 Nov 2019 15:23:45 -0500

Benefits were earned! Unless he violated UCMJ while in service, the are no grounds to Court Martial!

Response by CW3 Paul Fitch made Nov 12 at 2019 5:30 PM

CW3 Paul Fitch — Tue, 12 Nov 2019 17:30:52 -0500

It is coming to light that the Deep State had him targeted to get to the President and that his "Guilty Plea" (which he took because the government had threatened to attack his son) will soon be withdrawn and he will win at trial or all charges dropped. The really sad part of this is he's been effectively bankrupted by this personal attack on him to get to the president.

Response by Ronald Goethie made Nov 14 at 2019 3:53 PM

Ronald Goethie — Thu, 14 Nov 2019 15:53:24 -0500

If felons can not enlist then he should be punished

Response by SP5 Felix Girard made Nov 16 at 2019 2:17 PM

SP5 Felix Girard — Sat, 16 Nov 2019 14:17:49 -0500

Is a pension an entitlement for your service BEFORE retirement or for your actions AFTER retirement? Should their hard work and service be erased if a future charge does not effect or involve their military service that earned the pension? I would vote NO and leave it up to the courts to resolve after service civilian issues.

Response by SSG Dale London made Nov 18 at 2019 11:03 AM

SSG Dale London — Mon, 18 Nov 2019 11:03:50 -0500

Let's not jump the gun and start stripping people of things before due process has run its course. That way lies tyranny.
As of right now, he is NOT a convicted felon. His case is still before the court as his guilty plea is not final until the judge accepts it and passes sentence.
Until then, phrases like "allegedly" and "suspected" still apply.

Response by 1SG Brian Holt made Nov 19 at 2019 11:13 AM

1SG Brian Holt — Tue, 19 Nov 2019 11:13:34 -0500

General Flynn was set up by corrupt partisan politicians, therefore, I recommend a Presidential pardon and equal justice under the for the criminals that orchestrated this sham.

Response by SFC Carlos Cruz made Nov 20 at 2019 12:19 PM

SFC Carlos Cruz — Wed, 20 Nov 2019 12:19:08 -0500

Can A Veteran Receive Retired Military Pay While In Prison? Generally, yes. Being convicted of a crime almost never jeopardizes a federal pension – the rare exception to this rule are charges relating to criminal disloyalty to the United States: espionage, treason, sabotage, etc.

Response by SGT Jeffrey Mayo made Nov 20 at 2019 4:29 PM

SGT Jeffrey Mayo — Wed, 20 Nov 2019 16:29:40 -0500

He is a disgrace to the uniform and anyone who has served. A foreign operative after serving as a general and then as a public servant in DC? Hell to the no. He should not be entitled to any benefits. Lock him up.

Response by PO2 Richard Sibley made Nov 20 at 2019 4:35 PM

PO2 Richard Sibley — Wed, 20 Nov 2019 16:35:06 -0500

hell no on a court-martialed, this man was railroaded by Dems

Response by SPC Everett Constable made Nov 20 at 2019 6:29 PM

SPC Everett Constable — Wed, 20 Nov 2019 18:29:55 -0500

Let him keep his keep his pension. He served.

Response by SPC Vincent Bidding made Nov 20 at 2019 11:24 PM

SPC Vincent Bidding — Wed, 20 Nov 2019 23:24:03 -0500

No payment, and he should be court-martialed. That's what would happen to anybody else.

Response by CPL Joseph Buck made Nov 21 at 2019 6:56 AM

CPL Joseph Buck — Thu, 21 Nov 2019 06:56:52 -0500

He was working against

Response by 1LT Patricia Givens made Nov 21 at 2019 11:12 AM

1LT Patricia Givens — Thu, 21 Nov 2019 11:12:56 -0500

When common people lets say SSA recipients go to jail there check goes to the state. If he is in a federal prison should his check go to Fed prison?

Response by MAJ Phil Bundy made Nov 21 at 2019 11:23 AM

MAJ Phil Bundy — Thu, 21 Nov 2019 11:23:06 -0500

He should be court-martialled; his actions violated his oath. When we retire, we are not released from our oath or from what it means. Flynn needs to be used as an example of that.

Response by SFC Thomas Howes made Nov 21 at 2019 11:46 AM

SFC Thomas Howes — Thu, 21 Nov 2019 11:46:41 -0500

I say it didn't happen on active duty then leave it alone.

Response by SSgt James Porter made Nov 21 at 2019 12:13 PM

SSgt James Porter — Thu, 21 Nov 2019 12:13:00 -0500

Flynn was a sleaze ball, if the way he conducted his post military life was any indication of his military career it's sad and frankly speaks to the how our military is today not withstanding all the very well intended and qualified officers and top NCO's. While he was retired and not operating as a military officer he still brought disgrace to our country, having said that he should keep his retirement benefits. As a country we owe it to all our vets.

Response by Sgt Edward Mlotkiewicz made Nov 21 at 2019 4:07 PM

Sgt Edward Mlotkiewicz — Thu, 21 Nov 2019 16:07:57 -0500

General Flynn serves honorably and deserves his pension. He should not be punished twice for a single offense.
His actions after his service will, and should be, dealt with separately.

Response by 1stSgt Ani Stubbs made Nov 21 at 2019 9:50 PM

1stSgt Ani Stubbs — Thu, 21 Nov 2019 21:50:29 -0500

He should be pardoned He was screwed over and his kid used a pawn, while VP Biden kid got rich

Response by SGT Troy Walker made Nov 22 at 2019 12:09 PM

SGT Troy Walker — Fri, 22 Nov 2019 12:09:11 -0500

I don't usually chime in on things. However, I'm sure we don't need to worry about what Gen. Flynn going to lose in his future. He pled guilty. He made his deals. Probably with the devil. He didn't get his rank by being an idiot. Flynn did throw his integrity out the window when he got involved in politics though. Honestly, I don't think anyone will ever really have the facts of the last 5 years in this whole red and blue freak show!

Response by SP5 David Normington made Nov 22 at 2019 12:21 PM

SP5 David Normington — Fri, 22 Nov 2019 12:21:21 -0500

The man was set up. The idea of making this political and further punishing him STINKS.

Response by PVT Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 22 at 2019 1:17 PM

PVT Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 22 Nov 2019 13:17:23 -0500

No, he should not lose his pension

Response by SGT(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 22 at 2019 1:36 PM

SGT(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 22 Nov 2019 13:36:42 -0500

Everything that happened to him was POST military service the man has gone through enough.

Response by LCDR Rich Bishop made Nov 22 at 2019 5:40 PM

LCDR Rich Bishop — Fri, 22 Nov 2019 17:40:20 -0500

General Flynn served our country honorably and is a very good man, don't confuse military serves vs political BS.

Response by LCDR Rich Bishop made Nov 22 at 2019 5:47 PM

LCDR Rich Bishop — Fri, 22 Nov 2019 17:47:54 -0500

He should be respected and receive all benefits and retirement pay he has earned.

Response by SGT Glenn E Moody made Nov 22 at 2019 10:20 PM

SGT Glenn E Moody — Fri, 22 Nov 2019 22:20:35 -0500

the whole thing was part of the Russian scam against the PRESIDENT and anyone that held office. he was railroaded by Comey & the FBI under his command and should be cleared of all charges period. the FBI called him up and told him he didn't need A lawyer he was lied to by the FBI and set up not only leave his pension alone he should be refunded any & all Legal fee's he has had to pay in this scam set up by OBAMA CLINTON THE DNC FBI & DOJ AGAINST DULY ELECTED PRESIDENT TRUMP & ANYONE THAT HELD OFFICE. it is still going on still with the bullshit impeachment the DEMOCRATS are pulling to remove our PRESIDENT from office. everyone involved in this infraction of the oath of service they took should be locked for treason. PERIOD

Response by CSM John Schofield made Nov 23 at 2019 11:25 AM

CSM John Schofield — Sat, 23 Nov 2019 11:25:51 -0500

Leave his pension alone. In addition, he will be pardon by President Trump eventually.

Response by CSM John Schofield made Nov 23 at 2019 11:26 AM

CSM John Schofield — Sat, 23 Nov 2019 11:26:22 -0500

Leave his pension alone, eventually he will be pardon by President Trump.

Response by MSgt Brian Dady made Nov 23 at 2019 4:46 PM

MSgt Brian Dady — Sat, 23 Nov 2019 16:46:10 -0500

He was not on active duty when the "offense" occurred. He was not convicted of a violent felony, or of attempting to defraud the U.S. government ( aside from guving aid or comfort to the enemy the only charges I am aware of that have been used to revoke pensions) so no, logically it makes no sense to steal a benefit the man earned. Leave him be.

Response by 1SG Michael Farrell made Nov 23 at 2019 10:23 PM

1SG Michael Farrell — Sat, 23 Nov 2019 22:23:13 -0500

Tough call. By all accounts, Flynn was a great officer until he went slightly psycho after basically being relieved as head of DIA. Given the events after that, I'd say it was more than slightly psycho...as Doc Holiday says in "Tombstone" -- "Poor johnny Ringo he couldn't handle the pressure..." Since I've heard other people who knew him well say something similar, I'd recommend leaving him alone.

Response by SFC Robert Walton made Nov 24 at 2019 9:34 AM

SFC Robert Walton — Sun, 24 Nov 2019 09:34:40 -0500

Was Michael Flynn Tried for an offense against the Military? No he was tried and convicted for a violation not pertaining to the Military. So no calling him back to active duty and Court Martial him for a Crime not pertaining to service or a violation of his Service time would be wrong.

Kind of like calling anyone back who served honorably to Court Martial them for beating the crap out of there civilian boss who desperately deserved it. JMT

Response by PO2 Joseph Bender made Nov 24 at 2019 10:20 AM

PO2 Joseph Bender — Sun, 24 Nov 2019 10:20:31 -0500

My day and age, if you were a convicted felon while serving, Leavonoworth would be your Dishonorable Discharge "house of shame." If he is working and been hired to work because of his rank he should be stripped of all his benefits "in the house of shame" Brass needs to be reminded they are not forever honored to be what they were. Dishonorable acts start with the person so we have to ask what did he get away with during his service

Response by LCpl Robert Donaldson made Nov 24 at 2019 6:03 PM

LCpl Robert Donaldson — Sun, 24 Nov 2019 18:03:46 -0500

Lock him up

Response by 1st Lt Joe Egolf made Nov 25 at 2019 12:04 AM

1st Lt Joe Egolf — Mon, 25 Nov 2019 00:04:28 -0500

he got screwed by the deepstate

Response by LTC Paul McNamara made Nov 25 at 2019 7:49 PM

LTC Paul McNamara — Mon, 25 Nov 2019 19:49:27 -0500

Leave this guy alone.

Response by PO2 Ben Ferguson made Nov 26 at 2019 10:32 AM

PO2 Ben Ferguson — Tue, 26 Nov 2019 10:32:59 -0500

What's good for the goose is good for the gander!
Leave Gen Flynn and his pension ALONE. If they want to take away his pension for lying to FBI then apply the same rule to politicians, bureaucrats like Comey, and the "retired DNI who opoenly lied before Congress; don't allow them to hide behind the "I was less than candid" excuse!

Response by CPL Ronald Boldt made Nov 26 at 2019 1:33 PM

CPL Ronald Boldt — Tue, 26 Nov 2019 13:33:05 -0500

If civilian don't take it. If military yes unless under high treason

Response by CPL Shayne Sanchez made Nov 26 at 2019 4:05 PM

CPL Shayne Sanchez — Tue, 26 Nov 2019 16:05:30 -0500

OJ Simpson was able to keep his NFL pension. Even though he was ordered to pay the Goldmans a ungodly amount of money due to the murder of their son at his hands , his pension from the NFL was legally untouchable. I believe it was around $26,000 a month. So fuck yeah ! Leave General Flynn's retirement alone

Response by CPO Scott Langhoff made Nov 27 at 2019 6:11 PM

CPO Scott Langhoff — Wed, 27 Nov 2019 18:11:26 -0500

He sentencing has been postponed until after the Horowitz report is released.

There’s a very good chance of a Mistrial...

Response by CW3 Michael Clifford made Nov 28 at 2019 9:08 AM

CW3 Michael Clifford — Thu, 28 Nov 2019 09:08:38 -0500

Military courts martial are federal courts, as is the federal court (civilian) that he was convicted in for lying to the FBI. Based on this, General Flynn cannot be tried by courts martial under the double jeopardy clause of the United States Constitution.

Response by LTC Stephen Oliva made Nov 28 at 2019 9:27 AM

LTC Stephen Oliva — Thu, 28 Nov 2019 09:27:51 -0500

Cant be tried twice for the same offense I think

Response by SPC Edward Oliver made Nov 28 at 2019 3:46 PM

SPC Edward Oliver — Thu, 28 Nov 2019 15:46:01 -0500

yes it was a political set up

Response by SPC Joseph Wojcik made Nov 28 at 2019 5:16 PM

SPC Joseph Wojcik — Thu, 28 Nov 2019 17:16:19 -0500

He was wrongly convicted. You also have the issue of politically motivated attacks coming from corrupt politicians and their media attack dogs, which can be interpreted as slander.
The right thing to do is to pardon Gen. Flynn and compensate him for all of the abuse he has suffered at the hands of the media and the government.

Response by SrA David G made Nov 28 at 2019 6:56 PM

SrA David G — Thu, 28 Nov 2019 18:56:38 -0500

There is zero nexus between Lt. General Flynn's federal crime and his military service. Secondarily, his actions on balance were insignificant in comparison to the legal crime and punishment.

Also, the fact that retirees' entitled to pay are subject to the UCMJ is for now without relevance. If there were a UMCJ proceeding that addressed Flynn's conviction and retirement benefits only then would it become relevant.

Response by SPC Anthony Ogden made Nov 29 at 2019 9:48 PM

SPC Anthony Ogden — Fri, 29 Nov 2019 21:48:52 -0500

He got caught in a perjury trap. He should not lose his benefits or his retirement. I think the man should be pardoned.

Response by SPC George Edwards made Nov 29 at 2019 10:01 PM

SPC George Edwards — Fri, 29 Nov 2019 22:01:36 -0500

Leave the man alone. He served our country for many years. He went broke defending himself just because he was told that he did not need an attorney and, in all likely hood did not, intentionally lie. The only reason he was prosecuted was because of his political beliefs.

Response by SGT Johnny Cooper made Nov 29 at 2019 11:22 PM

SGT Johnny Cooper — Fri, 29 Nov 2019 23:22:59 -0500

General Flynn is a man of honor caught up in draining the swamp, I say yes allow him all his
earned benefits and a Big NO on a court-martial. He deserves a big job well done, thank you
for your great service, may God keep his arms around you and your family.

Medically retired
Sgt Johnny Cooper
Albany, Oregon

Response by PFC Rick Schuetz made Dec 1 at 2019 9:51 PM

PFC Rick Schuetz — Sun, 01 Dec 2019 21:51:40 -0500

I believe LT. Gen. Flynn should be exonerated. Even the FBI agents that interviewed him said he didn’t lie. After over 33 years of service to his country he got caught in a political witch hunt. I heard he lost his house to pay the legal fees. I think he’s lost enough already. His “crime” was supporting the president. I don’t know how my beloved Army handles this per UCMJ. The above is one mans opinion.

Response by SSG Mike Straub made Dec 5 at 2019 5:02 AM

SSG Mike Straub — Thu, 05 Dec 2019 05:02:31 -0500

He served more than 30 years, so he should still continue to get a pension (Though he probably stole a lot of American tax dollars) he should get a couple thousand a month, but that's it!

Response by CPL Steve Freeman made Dec 16 at 2019 6:21 PM

CPL Steve Freeman — Mon, 16 Dec 2019 18:21:13 -0500

Micheal Flynn will eventually be the new name of the FBI building because he'll own those mfs. Flynn should take Comey by the nape of his neck and punch him in the mouth for every $5 he's spent or lost bcs of the FBI's false accusations and false prosecution. Micheal Flynn should own everything Comey owns, everything McCabe owns, everything Peter Smirk Strozt or whatever owns, everything Lisa Page owns, everything Weisman owns, everything Mueller owns, and everything Rosenstein owns. And Trump should be given everything everyone else owns who's responsible for this entire sham. And they should all spend the rest of their lives, including that stuttering, illiterate, goat raping clusterfuck Obama.

Response by CAPT Hiram Patterson made Dec 20 at 2019 12:31 PM

CAPT Hiram Patterson — Fri, 20 Dec 2019 12:31:07 -0500

Why would you want to court-martial someone when whatever he did was totally outside his active duty service if I'm not mistaken? He spent most of what he had on attorneys, probably lost his house, etc. Trump should totally pardon him! Everything was just a political sham from the get go!

Response by SPC Arthur Lowder made Dec 21 at 2019 9:50 AM

SPC Arthur Lowder — Sat, 21 Dec 2019 09:50:20 -0500

most felon pay stop while in prison.???

Response by SPC Jay Crawford made Dec 21 at 2019 3:23 PM

SPC Jay Crawford — Sat, 21 Dec 2019 15:23:32 -0500

He earned his pension. If his conviction was for actions in the military, then take it away, but otherwise, leave it alone.

Response by 1SG Chad Mcdaniel made Dec 22 at 2019 12:48 AM

1SG Chad Mcdaniel — Sun, 22 Dec 2019 00:48:16 -0500

If he was already tried and convicted under civil law he cannot be punished under UCMJ. So why are we even talking about this? If the military wants to try him under some other charge then that's different.

Response by CWO3 Robert Fong made Dec 22 at 2019 9:54 AM

CWO3 Robert Fong — Sun, 22 Dec 2019 09:54:19 -0500

This is an exceptional case, and the Court has not sentenced Flynn. It is without doubt that Flynn was caught up and set up by rogue FBI agents who may face criminal changes after the DOJ finishes their criminal investigations, which may reach into the Muller case. I suspect that the UCMJ provision only applies to offenses committed on AD prior to retirement and unknown at the time the individual was on AD.

Response by CWO3 Robert Fong made Dec 22 at 2019 10:01 AM

CWO3 Robert Fong — Sun, 22 Dec 2019 10:01:42 -0500

The UCMJ only applies to persons who committed an offense while on AD, and does not apply to civilian offenses after retirement. For example, an individual who embezzles money from a unit morale fund while on AD is not found out until they are retired. Since th3e offense was committed while under the jurisdiction of the UCMJ, the individual can be recalled to AD and Court Martialed. Flynn committed the offense as a civilian, therefore, the military has no jurisdiction. It remains to be seen what will happen after Durham's (DOJ) investigation whether the case against Flynn holds up.

Response by SSG Dave Johnston made Dec 22 at 2019 11:45 AM

SSG Dave Johnston — Sun, 22 Dec 2019 11:45:44 -0500

Based on the actions of the FBI during the transition from Obama to Trump, the FBI is looking at "Malfeasance of Office".

Response by LTC Ken Connolly made Dec 22 at 2019 5:41 PM

LTC Ken Connolly — Sun, 22 Dec 2019 17:41:05 -0500

Need to wait to see what is the results of his appeals.

Response by SGT Brad Baier made Dec 22 at 2019 7:14 PM

SGT Brad Baier — Sun, 22 Dec 2019 19:14:21 -0500

I don't like the way this was presented. I'm not sure we know the facts to this case. It seems to me he was unjustly convicted. Once again I'm going by what I've seen and don't have all the information. I'm sick and tired of the criminals in office that are above the laws of our nation.

Response by LCDR Stephen Holmes made Dec 22 at 2019 8:45 PM

LCDR Stephen Holmes — Sun, 22 Dec 2019 20:45:39 -0500

He was trapped by liars, and family threatened when he made a mistake. He's a patriot who was ambushed by traitors dressed as "friendlies". Support GEN Flynn.

Response by SPC Byron Skinner made Dec 23 at 2019 1:34 AM

SPC Byron Skinner — Mon, 23 Dec 2019 01:34:41 -0500

Sp4 Byron Skinner….A very good question. Upfront I was never a fan of Lt. Gen. Flynn which in uniform and his apparent behavior as a civilian has done nothing to elevate my esteem for the Michael Flynn. …That said the only grounds for a Military Courts Marshall would be if Lt. Gen. Flynn (USA ret.) used Lt. General Flynn traded sensitive Classified/Secret reveling information from his days as head of the Defense Security Agency as the currency with his personal connections with foreign leaders and politicians. The danger here of course is the trading of military information for political consideration from a foreign country. Other wise exception made for the security issue of this affair, I would say what ever punishment is handed out by the US Federal District Court should be the end of the Michael Flynn affair. I would suggest and I assume that this has already been done is that former Lt General Flynn should no longer have any security classification and be denied access to any data or documents that he may have been involved with as head of the DEA.

Response by 1SG Ronald Stacks made Dec 23 at 2019 8:33 AM

1SG Ronald Stacks — Mon, 23 Dec 2019 08:33:41 -0500

Absolutely, He has deserved every benefit for his military service.

Response by SSG Norbert Johnson made Dec 23 at 2019 10:01 AM

SSG Norbert Johnson — Mon, 23 Dec 2019 10:01:28 -0500

I have a concern for this. Wasn't the General charged with a false crime and plead guilty to protect his son from the same erroneous activities of the FBI? When a conviction is predicated upon a LIE, or Coercion is it not invalid at its inception?

My position is that his conviction was tainted and if not convicted under UCMJ, he should retain his Military Pension.

Response by Stephen Bracken made Dec 23 at 2019 12:09 PM

Stephen Bracken — Mon, 23 Dec 2019 12:09:10 -0500

Michael Flynn will be pardoned by Trump at some point since he was framed by friends of crooked Hillary and Obummer for not helping to get Trump out of office.

Response by PO1 Mike Wallace made Dec 23 at 2019 1:32 PM

PO1 Mike Wallace — Mon, 23 Dec 2019 13:32:44 -0500

I disagree with how the FBI screwed Flynn but no matter who it would be or the circumstances in the spirit of the double jeopardy clause in the 5th amendment he must not be charged nor prosecuted. Because you served your country in the military you should not be subjected to what is a violation of the law of the land!

Response by CPT Harbourcay . made Dec 23 at 2019 8:49 PM

CPT Harbourcay . — Mon, 23 Dec 2019 20:49:39 -0500

Bill Clinton was convicted of lying in a Federal Court and still receives his pension and Secret Service protection. He was not on active duty when the alleged acts were committed

Response by LTC Rodger Coman made Dec 24 at 2019 9:09 AM

LTC Rodger Coman — Tue, 24 Dec 2019 09:09:22 -0500

He was set up by the FBI into a trap. Even the agents that interviewed him said he was straightforward with his answers. Leave him alone. Give him a presidential pardon.

Response by SSG Christopher Duffee made Dec 24 at 2019 9:22 AM

SSG Christopher Duffee — Tue, 24 Dec 2019 09:22:16 -0500

How about VA disable compensation types ? UCMJ ?

Response by Maj Gary Gault made Dec 24 at 2019 1:27 PM

Maj Gary Gault — Tue, 24 Dec 2019 13:27:28 -0500

Why? General Flynn ret has not been convicted or sentenced to anything! UCMJ applies to active duty military and reserves on active duty. Civilian offenses are handled by civilian courts etc. Besides, he has not been convicted of anything? I think our Democratic Party wishes to judge persons they don't agree with as Guilty until proven Innocent. That is the premise of Roman Law and NOT English Law which states a person is Innocent until proven Guilty. Let us not cross our lines up in the tangled mess of Washington DC politics. Let us keep military law and civilian law separate as they are designed for two different venues. Let us return to the basics of Democracy and listen to opponents without condemning them.

Response by MGySgt Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 24 at 2019 5:23 PM

MGySgt Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 24 Dec 2019 17:23:05 -0500

Courts Martialed? For what? Being set up by a rogue FBI leadership? The President will grant him a full pardon, but I am certain that his entire case will be thrown out here shortly.

Response by MSgt Hector Terreforte made Dec 24 at 2019 5:40 PM

MSgt Hector Terreforte — Tue, 24 Dec 2019 17:40:05 -0500

He should be allowed to keep is retirement and rank. He is not a criminal to me because I feel he got railroaded by the Democrats.

Response by SP5 James Johnson made Dec 24 at 2019 9:43 PM

SP5 James Johnson — Tue, 24 Dec 2019 21:43:50 -0500

Complete travesty of justice. Not just a pardon but complete exoneration.

Response by CPL John McCulley made Dec 24 at 2019 10:17 PM

CPL John McCulley — Tue, 24 Dec 2019 22:17:59 -0500

The FBI caught General Flynn in a perjury trap (something they can catch alot of innocent people in). There was alot of wrong doing by the gvt in that whole episode. But that wasn't your question. What purpose would it serve for the Army to spend all that money to court martial him? As far as his pension, he earned that! We live in a "cancel culture" where people seem to think that one bad deed or mistake erases everything good you did during the rest of your life. He served honorably & professionally enough to earn his rank. Even if he had screwed up in his primary job as a intelligence officer, the Army would have just retired hom early. Leave the man alone!

Response by PO2 Louis Fattrusso made Dec 25 at 2019 3:36 PM

PO2 Louis Fattrusso — Wed, 25 Dec 2019 15:36:14 -0500

That’s a tough call. I would say that this crime was separate from his service and the charges should not be commingled.

Response by 1stSgt William Cranford made Dec 25 at 2019 6:49 PM

1stSgt William Cranford — Wed, 25 Dec 2019 18:49:36 -0500

Follow the law, if a felony conviction strips away military retired pay and benefits, then he should lose his, if the law says you keep them then he should keep them. To many exceptions already. That is why high ranking officers think they are above the law, because you allow them to be. one set of rules for everyone and NO exceptions.

Response by CSM Thomas Tomlin made Dec 25 at 2019 9:01 PM

CSM Thomas Tomlin — Wed, 25 Dec 2019 21:01:06 -0500

His military service was over when he was appointed to this position. They are two different services and should be treated as such. His military pension should not be touched and I see no reason
that he should be Court- Martialed

CSM Thomas Tomlin (Ret)

Response by PO3 James Bishop made Dec 25 at 2019 11:13 PM

PO3 James Bishop — Wed, 25 Dec 2019 23:13:35 -0500

This man apparently received a dishonorable discharge or one such. He is probably in a stockade or brig somewhere. If so he is being fed, clothed, and free medical treatment. There4fore he should not receive any benefits from the military. I don't think he is eligible for social security and will not receive any other compensation from the government. Such benefits are for DISABLED VETERANS and S/S is only applicable to retirees. He has no civil rights, cannot vote in elections while incarcerated. He gets ALL he needs to survive. Let him pay the price.

he does not nor should not be entitled to any benefits. By virtue that he is in stockade or a brig

Response by PO1 Sanford Snyder made Dec 25 at 2019 11:47 PM

PO1 Sanford Snyder — Wed, 25 Dec 2019 23:47:30 -0500

Wouldn't he have to be reactivated and court-martialed for his benefits to be taken? and besides, when the indictments come out and the criminal conduct against him is public info, I would think his entire conviction will be vacated.

Response by PO2 Michael S. made Dec 26 at 2019 8:05 AM

PO2 Michael S. — Thu, 26 Dec 2019 08:05:21 -0500

I hate to be the "well actually" entry, but he hasn't been sentenced yet. Until then the case is still in process and under our rules he's still considered innocent. The conviction occurs after the paperwork is completed.

But, I have to believe the threat does exist and he is at risk unless those details have already been covered.

Response by SPC Theresa Villanueva made Dec 26 at 2019 1:32 PM

SPC Theresa Villanueva — Thu, 26 Dec 2019 13:32:22 -0500

It would be bullshit to take his benefits. He earned those

Response by SCPO Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 26 at 2019 2:05 PM

SCPO Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 26 Dec 2019 14:05:29 -0500

Old saying, if you play you pay, I think he paid his mistakes and embarrassment as Senior Officer. Leave his pension alone.

Response by Lt Col John Culley made Dec 27 at 2019 12:23 AM

Lt Col John Culley — Fri, 27 Dec 2019 00:23:07 -0500

The information in the 5 justice department IG reports will probably cause General Flynn's case to be reversed and tossed out. He should have persisted in a not guilty plea.

Response by SSG Kenneth Boyer made Dec 27 at 2019 12:35 AM

SSG Kenneth Boyer — Fri, 27 Dec 2019 00:35:57 -0500

General Flynn was nothing more than a scape goat for the left’s war on the latest administration because they cannot accept that they lost. He should have never been convicted of anything because there was no real trial in the court of law for him. I guess our government has moved on from what our constitution says and that we belong to them instead of us as “we the people” are in control. Flynn is innocent and our elected officials are the ones who are guilty of every single crime that they write laws against.

Response by MSgt Mark Williams made Dec 27 at 2019 6:48 AM

MSgt Mark Williams — Fri, 27 Dec 2019 06:48:54 -0500

I say keep his retirement. He more than earned it, as have we all.

Response by SSgt Glenn Martin made Dec 27 at 2019 10:26 AM

SSgt Glenn Martin — Fri, 27 Dec 2019 10:26:33 -0500

YES, Leave His Pension Alone! 33 Years Of Honorable Service And The General Get's SCREWED And Set-Up From A BS Russian HOAX.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 27 at 2019 10:37 AM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 27 Dec 2019 10:37:37 -0500

His felon was part if the Trump witch hunt called the MULLER REPORT. Was told when asked if he needed a lawyer present FBI said NO. And the evidence against him is limited at best. But he did a plea deal, cause he knew if he went to court he would be the example. So No leave his benefits alone.

Response by COL Mike Walton made Dec 27 at 2019 12:21 PM

COL Mike Walton — Fri, 27 Dec 2019 12:21:42 -0500

While I have no doubt that the article is there, I would pass on trying to court-martial this general. He already is in "loss mode", and will have to make up those personal losses by selling his story. He's still a general, Top.

Response by George Avery made Dec 27 at 2019 1:10 PM

George Avery — Fri, 27 Dec 2019 13:10:01 -0500

He actually committed no real crime, but was entrapped by the FBI to try to use him against the President. These perjury traps involving minor inconsistencies that are obviously purely due to recall issues (something all of us who do social science research are aware of) are an abuse of power.

Response by George Avery made Dec 27 at 2019 1:14 PM

George Avery — Fri, 27 Dec 2019 13:14:05 -0500

Yes. The "crime" was a minor inconsistency in story that is almost certainly due to the phenomena of recall bias. This practice of using perjury traps to make such recall inconsistencies a criminal act in order to try to pressure an individual into making statements to implicate a more prominent political figure (see also, Scooter Libby) are an abuse of the law and probably violate the Constitution. It is obvious that the FBI used deception to target Flynn for partisan political reasons, and his conviction should be voided and the involved FBI staff - including Comey, McCabe, Strozk, etc. should be prosecuted for perjury and violation of civil rights laws.

Response by CDR Mike Kovack made Dec 27 at 2019 2:57 PM

CDR Mike Kovack — Fri, 27 Dec 2019 14:57:13 -0500

Hmmm, what's the history of retirees convicted of felonies? Have any others had benefits pulled? All should be treated alike

Response by MSgt Andy Andrews made Dec 27 at 2019 7:03 PM

MSgt Andy Andrews — Fri, 27 Dec 2019 19:03:21 -0500

Flynn was told that it was informal questioning, that he didn't need a lawyer and original 302 notes indicated neither FBI agents felt that Flynn was dishonest. He plead guilty, only due to being bankrupt by Robert Mueller.

Response by MAJ Van Noah made Dec 27 at 2019 8:30 PM

MAJ Van Noah — Fri, 27 Dec 2019 20:30:13 -0500

Flynn was stupid for lying to the FBI when they set up their perjury trap. He should have known right then that there was something up with that question and realized that the FBI has been spying on him and the Trump campaign. In his defense, who could have imagined that sort of corruption was happening in the USA? The FBI and Mueller hammered Flynn while trying to make him create some confession of a campaign crime that did not exist. There was nothing there but they nailed him to the wall out of vindictive anger and hate. There is no reason to pile on. Flynn was not the brightest bulb but adding to his over the top punishment, especially in light of the openly lying government agents, would make all this even more unbalanced.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 28 at 2019 5:22 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 28 Dec 2019 17:22:53 -0500

Leave the man alone, he was set up.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 28 at 2019 5:25 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 28 Dec 2019 17:25:30 -0500

Leave the man alone, he was set up.

Response by SFC Carlos Cruz made Dec 28 at 2019 6:47 PM

SFC Carlos Cruz — Sat, 28 Dec 2019 18:47:11 -0500

Under the so-called “Hiss Act,” Members of Congress (and most other officers and employees of the federal government) will forfeit their entire federal employee retirement annuities if convicted of a federal crime that relates to espionage, treason, or several other national security offenses against the United States.
Since General Flynn wasn’t change with this crime, yes he keep his Pension.

Michael T. Flynn has pleaded guilty to a charge of lying to the FBI Only.

Response by SFC Domingo M. made Dec 29 at 2019 10:00 PM

SFC Domingo M. — Sun, 29 Dec 2019 22:00:52 -0500

When the government takes away Clinton's benefits and privileges and throws her in jail for the way she handled classified information and for the lives lost in Benghazi, then and only then can they even consider Gen. Flynn.

Response by 1SG Harold Piet made Dec 30 at 2019 7:57 AM

1SG Harold Piet — Mon, 30 Dec 2019 07:57:57 -0500

If this happened during his active duty then active duty should have had jurisdiction all the way, but it was a civilian court so no

Response by LTC Ivan Raiklin, Esq. made Dec 30 at 2019 10:18 AM

LTC Ivan Raiklin, Esq. — Mon, 30 Dec 2019 10:18:33 -0500

NO! First, he is not a convicted felon, he plead guilty to a making a false statement charge so that the FBI wouldn't go after his family and dig something up on his son who was a brand new dad when they compelled his plea. 2nd Read this article for justification: https://thefederalist.com/2019/12/13/how-the-ig-fisa-abuse-report-affects-michael-flynns-case/

How The IG FISA Abuse Report Affects Michael Flynn’s Case

‘Far too many in the FBI and DOJ are willing to hide evidence, falsify documents and make up crimes to achieve their objectives.’

Response by SGM Robert Murray made Dec 30 at 2019 5:36 PM

SGM Robert Murray — Mon, 30 Dec 2019 17:36:57 -0500

Convicted felon. That label alone disgraces the image of the military. I believe the questions should be reversed. Firstly, ask if he should be court-martialed? My response is an immediate "YES!" Based upon the findings of the court-martial, they will decide if he's found guilty or not guilty. Additionally, if guilty, what action should be levied on him. For many I've communicated, he dishonored the image of our military when he turned politician. Sad.

Response by Cpl Reynaldo Jimenez made Dec 31 at 2019 10:54 AM

Cpl Reynaldo Jimenez — Tue, 31 Dec 2019 10:54:22 -0500

Take it since they take everyone else's he shouldn't get special privileges

Response by MSG Reid Zohfeld made Dec 31 at 2019 12:58 PM

MSG Reid Zohfeld — Tue, 31 Dec 2019 12:58:55 -0500

That is General Flynn Someone has served his country with Honor So yes he should collect his pension no questions asked!
I do have a problem with such a question being poised!!!!!!!

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 1 at 2020 2:12 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 01 Jan 2020 14:12:16 -0500

There is case law on "double jeopardy" which mean he can't be punished for the crimes he committed as a civilian. As despicable as what he did what, if it didn't occur while he was in the military then any good lawyer is going to ensure he keeps his full military pension.

He should retire at the last rank he served "honorably" at.

Response by MSG Robert Kilpatrick made Jan 2 at 2020 4:12 PM

MSG Robert Kilpatrick — Thu, 02 Jan 2020 16:12:30 -0500

He earned it let him keep it.

Response by 1SG Sal Alvarado made Jan 6 at 2020 2:02 PM

1SG Sal Alvarado — Mon, 06 Jan 2020 14:02:07 -0500

He should be pardoned by the president.

Response by SGT Chester Sprankle made Jan 12 at 2020 4:41 PM

SGT Chester Sprankle — Sun, 12 Jan 2020 16:41:41 -0500

If the infractions did not transpire while actively serving in the Military than his Military pension should not be touched,

Response by SSG David Kaelin made Jan 13 at 2020 10:40 PM

SSG David Kaelin — Mon, 13 Jan 2020 22:40:20 -0500

Flynn was convicted if the civilian equivalent of "failure to repair". His is a classic example of why one should never talk to the police.

"Police" being any agent of the State.

If they want you, they can et you.

Response by CPL Steve Freeman made Jan 15 at 2020 12:58 PM

CPL Steve Freeman — Wed, 15 Jan 2020 12:58:29 -0500

Would you look at that? Micheal Flynn is getting a new trial based on a not guilty plea. Who coulda seen that coming? ...I mean besides all of us who have observed the whole circus the last 3 years.

Response by SGT Ray Isabell made Jan 16 at 2020 2:04 AM

SGT Ray Isabell — Thu, 16 Jan 2020 02:04:19 -0500

General Flynn, in the U S Military who has already taken the oath to Protect and Defended the Constitution of the United States of American!

When General Flynn Met with Trump and took directions and or instructions on what to do, Flynn never once voiced or said Mr. President that’s against the Constitution we can not do that. He made the decision to take the job because he need a job and never thought once about his country!

HE VIOLATED HIS OATH PLAIN AND SIMPLE
HE SHOULD BE STRIPPED OF ALL BENEFITS LIKE ANY OTHER MILITARY OFFICER OR SERVICE PERSONNEL.

Response by PFC Bobby Smith made Jan 19 at 2020 2:31 PM

PFC Bobby Smith — Sun, 19 Jan 2020 14:31:51 -0500

has he served time in prision, if so he has paid his dept

Response by MSG John Endersbe made Jan 19 at 2020 10:03 PM

MSG John Endersbe — Sun, 19 Jan 2020 22:03:33 -0500

He has withdrawn his guilty plea. They played him for a sucker and he trusted the FBI. Bet he won’t make that mistake again.

Response by 1SG Alan Boggs made Feb 9 at 2020 6:29 PM

1SG Alan Boggs — Sun, 09 Feb 2020 18:29:17 -0500

The military needs to purge politics from its ranks. Leave the General alone, someday they may come after your pension and you'll wish you kwpt your politics to yourself.

Response by SCPO Bruce Davis made Feb 13 at 2020 9:40 AM

SCPO Bruce Davis — Thu, 13 Feb 2020 09:40:06 -0500

Leave it alone...his “crimes” and trial were politically motivated

Response by Maj Bill Smith, Ph.D. made Feb 16 at 2020 9:33 PM

Maj Bill Smith, Ph.D. — Sun, 16 Feb 2020 21:33:33 -0500

Flynn was railroaded and it appears that his situation will now be reviewed. His conviction after retiring was NOT related to his military experience. His retirement should not be affected.

Response by CPT Don Kemp made Feb 21 at 2020 3:28 PM

CPT Don Kemp — Fri, 21 Feb 2020 15:28:25 -0500

Let’s ask the question a different way....Say you retired after 30 years and were offered another Federal job. For some minor offense, you were forced to spend your life savings defending yourself against an organization with unlimited resources and an axe to grind. Should you keep your benefits?

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 28 at 2020 4:46 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 28 Feb 2020 16:46:17 -0500

Gen. Flynn was trapped into his confession which was by the FBI who now faces charges of lying, a Soldier who is retired has to be re-activated and then appear before a Court Martial. that has yet not taken place and most likely won't. Do your research in this matter and listen to the Oversight Committee Hearing into this matter.

Response by MSgt Brian Williams made Mar 11 at 2020 6:55 PM

MSgt Brian Williams — Wed, 11 Mar 2020 18:55:52 -0400

Don’t care about Michael Flynn. At all. Lower ranking people get ruined over lesser charges so, no. I don’t care. He’ll be on Fox News making millions in short order.

Response by SSgt Kory Hessling made Mar 20 at 2020 9:24 AM

SSgt Kory Hessling — Fri, 20 Mar 2020 09:24:19 -0400

I say yes to leaving his retirement alone. No to the Court-Marshal. Considering the circumstances of why he became a convicted felon. Justice motivated by politics is no Justice at all.

Response by MAJ Mark Steskal made Mar 23 at 2020 2:17 PM

MAJ Mark Steskal — Mon, 23 Mar 2020 14:17:22 -0400

Should members of Congress and the Senate be imprisoned and loose all of their benefits as a result of insider trading related to the current CoVid 19 outbreak? After all, they were informed of the anticipatedd consequences to the economy and quickly sold of potentially loser stocks.
There seems to be some sentiment at the top that there are those who are above the law and those who can be used as scapegoats for the political convenience of the privileged.
As to the General, did he violate anything in the UCMJ?

Response by Cpl Geoff Smith made Mar 23 at 2020 5:22 PM

Cpl Geoff Smith — Mon, 23 Mar 2020 17:22:21 -0400

Has been convicted in civilian courts, would be double jeprady to tri him again in military courts!

Response by SP5 Steve Powell made Mar 27 at 2020 7:12 PM

SP5 Steve Powell — Fri, 27 Mar 2020 19:12:15 -0400

NO! He has been adjuticated. HOWEVER, new information has come to light of the government (Mueller) witholding exculpatory evidence and he has appealed his conviction. Let the Courts sort this out and then, perhaps, we can have another discussion about his post-retirement behavior and pension. Finally, I'm wondering on what grounds the implied court-martial would be? The same grounds he was charged and convicted of? Perhaps a double-jepardy situation or should he have been charged via court-martial and not Federal District Court because he "subject to UCMJ"? Get sconfusing if we go down that road. Just saying and thank you for the question!

Response by SSG Curtis Vaughn made Mar 29 at 2020 1:39 PM

SSG Curtis Vaughn — Sun, 29 Mar 2020 13:39:51 -0400

Has this become a Communist Country? All these Senior Leaders following Party lines. Answer to question. No ! I'm disappointed that A Officer of his standing would not report that had contact with a known adversary of the US. He understands by not putting it down someone will always find out if they do their job. If you held a Clearance or getting an upgraded one they are going to look and then call you on the carpet for it.

Response by SSgt Bryce Hartford made Apr 9 at 2020 6:50 PM

SSgt Bryce Hartford — Thu, 09 Apr 2020 18:50:04 -0400

He should be pardoned because the whole thing was a setup by the left to take down Trump

Response by PFC Matt Ochmanski made Apr 13 at 2020 1:35 PM

PFC Matt Ochmanski — Mon, 13 Apr 2020 13:35:17 -0400

As a retiree, he would have to be called back to Active Duty and then have him charged under the UMCJ, but why go through all this? It could happen, but why, leave the man alone!

Response by SGT Malcolm Lorde made Apr 17 at 2020 5:27 AM

SGT Malcolm Lorde — Fri, 17 Apr 2020 05:27:06 -0400

Should Get his benefits!!!!

Response by 1SG Alan Boggs made Apr 21 at 2020 5:48 PM

1SG Alan Boggs — Tue, 21 Apr 2020 17:48:00 -0400

Leave the man alone. He earned his pension many times over

Response by Sgt Robert Lombard made Apr 21 at 2020 9:10 PM

Sgt Robert Lombard — Tue, 21 Apr 2020 21:10:13 -0400

Near as I can tell, there is no way to separate political BS from reality. I also believe that the great majority of general officers are not only aware of this, but have bought into it.

Response by MSG Albert Grounds made Apr 26 at 2020 4:19 PM

MSG Albert Grounds — Sun, 26 Apr 2020 16:19:12 -0400

Since I was in the Intelligence field the last 11 years of my Army Career, I will say this. I saw where this was going from the beginning; I saw it as railroading being set up on orders from above. General Flynn was trapped into responding as he did because they threatened his family. What would you do if this happened to you? He told a little fib and they wished to nail him to the cross when others who did far worse than what he did gets off without even an investigation. Remember one thing about the agencies under the control of the President. Not one of them would dare go after General Flynn unless they had clearance to do so and I am certain I could name the first source who passed it to another to build a case which snowballed into the appointment of a Special Counsel led by a supposed respected member of the legal community. I do not agree with this assessment of him.

Response by CPL Akinda Murkle made Apr 26 at 2020 5:04 PM

CPL Akinda Murkle — Sun, 26 Apr 2020 17:04:12 -0400

Like other military retirees, he should be subjected to the UCMJ. Lock him up!

Response by MSgt Steven Harris made Apr 27 at 2020 4:19 AM

MSgt Steven Harris — Mon, 27 Apr 2020 04:19:39 -0400

Our prior and even some of our current high-level military leadership and congressional personal have used our military law system against our honorable soldiers and made false claims stick because they control the court systems. I would like to see the actual evidence in each case and judge the punishments based on that alone instead of a general policy which has been abuse far too long to attack individuals who oppose the mob rulers in our nation! president Trump is smart enough to have his people investigate the circumstances involving military personnel before making any presidential leniency or pardons. We who served under president Obama know how corrupt his staff, appointed military leaders, and US Supreme courts and federal department heads and Congress personnel were and many are still in official positions and abuse their offices still. As citizens and veterans we, need to stand up for what the US Constitution says and not let politics or the new world order of criminals and socialism cloud our judgement as many have! There is allot of division, fraudulence, and corruption still in all levels of our governments and their appointed leaders and the media is the instigator of it all, But there are clearly agents of the socialist/communist/ anarchist movement in the Congress in both houses who make decisions for military and intelligence operations for our branches which impact how we carry out missions and treat our enemies as well as our allies. That can cause issues in leadership roles and create and "us and them" type environment among our units and squadrons. That is all bad leadership and bad for our military and diminishes the respectability & professionalism of our members. The talk about god leadership traits is minor compared to what makes a god professional soldier and honorable citizen of a nation? Gen Michael Flynn has had his issues with news media in his career and whether he was speaking on his own behalf or as General in the United States Armed Forces, so in that regard, his bosses have aright to question whether it was an lawful or unlawful act! All soldier s are warned not to speak in uniform and misrepresent the military on camera and watch how we answer questions which could be used to embarrass or even give a false image of our branch or the whole DOD. Often high-level officers forget those limitations and so being said , They are subject to the same punishments as any active duty member. I believe the pension issue is not mandatory. It can be waivered if a serious crime has not been committed warranting a demotion! There are JAGS for that type case and I am not one so let them figure it out> I have more important issues in life to be concerned about. I would think this forum is for discussing something better than that!

Response by CPO Paul Klein made Apr 29 at 2020 11:18 PM

CPO Paul Klein — Wed, 29 Apr 2020 23:18:12 -0400

Since the current findings concerning General Flynn shows that he was not guilty of the crimes he was accused of, and that he pled guilty to because of threats to his family, not only should his retirement pay be left alone, but no further legal proceedings should even be under consideration. This man was railroaded by a corrupt group within the FBI, in an attempt to hurt the President.

Response by SSG Brian Carpenter made May 4 at 2020 10:59 AM

SSG Brian Carpenter — Mon, 04 May 2020 10:59:00 -0400

General Flynn Railroaded over politics bottom line

Response by SPC Charllie Clink made May 4 at 2020 9:15 PM

SPC Charllie Clink — Mon, 04 May 2020 21:15:16 -0400

He did nothing wrrong during his service career so leave his pension alone. As for what is going on now, he was set up by the dummyrats. Prosecute those bastards.

Response by SFC Laurie Schultz made May 7 at 2020 1:37 PM

SFC Laurie Schultz — Thu, 07 May 2020 13:37:15 -0400

Yep!

Response by MSgt Gilbert Jones made May 7 at 2020 2:15 PM

MSgt Gilbert Jones — Thu, 07 May 2020 14:15:16 -0400

He is a senior officer and can be called back any time. Therefore, he should be brought back on active duty, court-martialed, and reduced in rank at least one star if not more.

Response by TSgt Gary McPherson made May 8 at 2020 12:29 PM

TSgt Gary McPherson — Fri, 08 May 2020 12:29:57 -0400

lEAVE HIM ALONE.DOJ DROPPED ALL CHANGES. He earned the benniesx.Now they should give back all they took from him.Home ,savings and much more.I think everyone here understands just how the media works as well as congress.We may never know the whole true facts.Unless we have 100% true facts then let the man alone.

Response by TSgt Gary McPherson made May 8 at 2020 12:32 PM

TSgt Gary McPherson — Fri, 08 May 2020 12:32:55 -0400

DOJ just dropped all charges.Leave the man alone.Now give him back all he has lost,Home,savings and so much more.You all know how the bias media works.Very little truth same for congress.

Response by Jerry Rivas made May 11 at 2020 10:40 PM

Jerry Rivas — Mon, 11 May 2020 22:40:41 -0400

It has now come to light that he was framed by the FBI (Fu%$ing Bunch of Idiots) James Comey is who needs to be a convicted felon. Restore this fine man to a time prior to all the phony BS he was put through. The FBI need to pay Flynns 6 million in legal fees.

Response by Jerry Rivas made May 11 at 2020 10:44 PM

Jerry Rivas — Mon, 11 May 2020 22:44:18 -0400

Trump needs to Pardon Flynn. and give 6 mil of the FBI's to his legal fund.

Response by SFC Domingo M. made May 15 at 2020 11:26 PM

SFC Domingo M. — Fri, 15 May 2020 23:26:46 -0400

As it turns out, I was right in backing Gen. Flynn. He was railroaded.

Response by SSG(P) Danielle Birtha made May 18 at 2020 4:46 PM

SSG(P) Danielle Birtha — Mon, 18 May 2020 16:46:18 -0400

Only the President can give or take a Commission from a Commissioned Officer... Article Two of the Constitution.
Convicted Felon... for whistle blowing? When whistle blowing is PROTECTED under U.S. Law?
Why is Ed Snowden hiding in Russia? TO EVADE PROSECUTION FOR WHISTLE BLOWING ON THE TRAITOR DEMOCRATS!!!!
When whistle blowing is protected by law? But... ONLY IF YOU DON'T WHISTLE BLOW ON OUR TRAITOROUS PUBLIC SERVANTS!!!!!!
TORO DUDU >(

Response by CPL Akinda Murkle made May 20 at 2020 4:05 PM

CPL Akinda Murkle — Wed, 20 May 2020 16:05:22 -0400

Thank you. I remember this from my years in the service and individuals who had went to jail . Some were able to get their benefits back and others had to do whatever. I think it's fair and reasonable.

Response by George Avery made May 20 at 2020 6:15 PM

George Avery — Wed, 20 May 2020 18:15:41 -0400

A year and a half after the original post, we know have pretty good evidence that he was not guilty of any crime, was framed in a conspiracy originating in the Oval Office, was improperly coerced by an attorney in the Special Counsel's office with threats to his son, had exculpatory evidence withheld by the FBI and DoJ, and should never have been charged. The man deserved compensation from the US government to be made whole for the damage done by the illegal actions of DoJ and the FBI. He has NOT been convicted - and is withdrawing his guilty plea - and DOJ itself has moved to dismiss the charges with prejudice due to the widespread prosecutorial misconduct. The people who brought the charges are more likely to be convicted than he is. The only reason the charges have not been dismissed at this point is judicial prejudice - Judge Sullivan is trying illegally to bring his own charges and, in violation of his own and Supreme Court precedent and the federal rules of criminal procedure, trying to extend the case where no dispute exists by bringing in biased outside attorneys to pursue it.

Response by SGM Robert Murray made May 21 at 2020 1:40 AM

SGM Robert Murray — Thu, 21 May 2020 01:40:26 -0400

I'm amending my response. Call him Mr. Flynn. Tarnishes to military if you call him Gen. Flynn. Based upon that premise, case by case consideration if an individual should be court-martialed.

Response by SGT Jay Ehrenfeld made May 21 at 2020 5:43 AM

SGT Jay Ehrenfeld — Thu, 21 May 2020 05:43:38 -0400

Under a normal situation he shoul but under this situation
But you have an retired Air Force General commit a major felony. He also need to be court marshal because the action or actions of his involvement in the Flynn matter as DNI director and broke several laws.

Response by 2LT Earl Dean made May 21 at 2020 8:55 AM

2LT Earl Dean — Thu, 21 May 2020 08:55:45 -0400

I get that what the UCMJ covers some retired actions. However if that was used against anyone that retires there would be a lot less guys getting their benefits. If he was Discharged at the time of his actions. I say leave him alone. The courts will deal with him in due time.

Response by CSM John Schofield made May 21 at 2020 1:20 PM

CSM John Schofield — Thu, 21 May 2020 13:20:57 -0400

Court Martial for what? He is a hero!

Response by CSM John Schofield made May 21 at 2020 1:22 PM

CSM John Schofield — Thu, 21 May 2020 13:22:55 -0400

Court Martialed for what? He was Director of DIA and a retired 3 Star who was set up by the Obama Administration. There was no probable cause to conduct the investigation. He was doing his new job in the Trump Administration.

Response by SP5 Steve Powell made May 21 at 2020 1:23 PM

SP5 Steve Powell — Thu, 21 May 2020 13:23:32 -0400

MSG Rich Bojorquez-Davila, et al: General Flynn appealed his conviction (redress of grievence-withholding exculpatory evidence), the DOJ has dropped the charges (based upon prosecutorial malfeasance (misconduct)) and as soon as Judge Sullivan dismisses (or he's removed because he won't do his duty) there will no longer be a "convicted felon". What would be the grounds for a Court-Martial of this civilian/military retiree now? Just saying . . .

Response by PO2 Private RallyPoint Member made May 21 at 2020 2:47 PM

PO2 Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 21 May 2020 14:47:03 -0400

Flynn's case is in the process of being dropped by the DOJ. So when it gets dropped there is no case. As far as the UCMJ is concerned I would think there wouldn't be anything to there either but I'm not a lawyer.

Response by CPL Steve Freeman made May 22 at 2020 9:41 AM

CPL Steve Freeman — Fri, 22 May 2020 09:41:05 -0400

He's about to be unconvicted, and the judge is being removed.

Response by CPL Earl Kochis made May 22 at 2020 1:04 PM

CPL Earl Kochis — Fri, 22 May 2020 13:04:49 -0400

He’s never been convicted only charged therefore He is not a felon so this question is moot!!

Response by SFC David Xanten made May 22 at 2020 2:47 PM

SFC David Xanten — Fri, 22 May 2020 14:47:47 -0400

First of all, he was never convicted of anything. Second, if the FBI threatened you and your son with felonies if you did agree to plead guilty to a lesser crime when you had already spent every penny you had to include selling you home, in order to pay your attorneys. I think you might have done the same. Now fast forward to May 2020 and you now see how much of a scam the entire thing was and the FBI Agents involved should be sent to prison.

Response by SPC Perry Gresham made May 22 at 2020 6:34 PM

SPC Perry Gresham — Fri, 22 May 2020 18:34:05 -0400

Slap a lib FBI agent and leave the General alone.

Response by MSgt Brian Dady made May 23 at 2020 1:21 PM

MSgt Brian Dady — Sat, 23 May 2020 13:21:07 -0400

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/05/14/someone-committed-crime-michael-flynn-case-it-wasnt-him/

someone-committed-crime-michael-flynn-case-it-wasnt-him

Response by SPC Edward Abney made May 23 at 2020 7:42 PM

SPC Edward Abney — Sat, 23 May 2020 19:42:48 -0400

Gen Flynn should have stayed the hell out of Politics, period! In addition to his FBI mess, he was pimping for the Turks, without registering as a foreign agent, and then lied to Pence about all his contacts, etc. Hoisted on his own Petard!

Response by Maj Gary Gault made May 23 at 2020 8:09 PM

Maj Gary Gault — Sat, 23 May 2020 20:09:04 -0400

What????? That would be a tough nut to crack!

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made May 23 at 2020 9:15 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 23 May 2020 21:15:01 -0400

So I guess that you and everyone else that voted up your condemnation of LTG Flynn, feel pretty sad right now. :))))))))))))))

Response by LTC John Hutson made May 24 at 2020 1:41 AM

LTC John Hutson — Sun, 24 May 2020 01:41:09 -0400

Michael Flynn has not been convicted. He was charged with lying to the FBI and to Congress by saying that he did not meet with the Russian ambassador while working for DJT's campaign, and for not registering as an agent for Turkey for which he was paid $500,000. He has since cooperated with the FBI, admitted and described his meetings with the Russian ambassador, and pleaded guilty twice in Federal court to the charge of lying. But the court has not yet convicted him and may never do so since the Justice Department has asked to drop the case.

No UCMJ case has been brought against him, nor will any be brought. Additionally, he was retired from the Army in 2014 at the rank of LTG, so there was no decision then that he did not serve honorably at that rank. Therefore, his petition is secure whether he is now convicted in court or not.

Response by SGT Michael Hearn made May 24 at 2020 12:46 PM

SGT Michael Hearn — Sun, 24 May 2020 12:46:07 -0400

Hello soldier, Michael Flynn was set up by the Democrats they wanted to discredit Trump so bad anyone connected to him as collateral damage. He did not get to be a General being a screw-up. Hell yes he should keep everything he earned

Response by MAJ Hugh Blanchard made May 24 at 2020 4:36 PM

MAJ Hugh Blanchard — Sun, 24 May 2020 16:36:08 -0400

I served with Mike Flynn at 25th ID. He was a fine soldier. I regard him as a political prisoner and the victim of an illegal intelligence operation by corrupt politicized FBI and DoJ operatives. That lot of crooks, including Comey, Strzok, Page, McCabe, Rosenstein, Brennan and Clapper should all be in jail.

Response by Capt David Turner made May 28 at 2020 3:27 PM

Capt David Turner — Thu, 28 May 2020 15:27:18 -0400

First, hes NOT a convicted felon. Second, he is the victim. Period. If anything, he should be given EXTRA money to compensate for being victimized.

Response by SP6 Greg Jetter made May 29 at 2020 1:57 PM

SP6 Greg Jetter — Fri, 29 May 2020 13:57:27 -0400

Your are bit behind the times MSG , Gen Michael Flynn has been exonerated of all wrong doing , it turns out he was targeted by the FBI and Obama administration as part of a Coup against the elected president. You should be asking when are the people involved in the Coup going to be tried and executed for treason . After all you call yourself a military man do you not ? Where is you concern for the nation ? are you part of the Coup ?

Response by SGT Michael Hanks made May 29 at 2020 7:08 PM

SGT Michael Hanks — Fri, 29 May 2020 19:08:00 -0400

retirees are still subject to the UMCJ

Response by 2LT Earl Dean made May 30 at 2020 12:00 AM

2LT Earl Dean — Sat, 30 May 2020 00:00:11 -0400

You know what! As a grunt I never thought about the UCMJ after retirement. Thank you for clearing that up for me. I stand corrected! And thank you!

Response by 1LT A. Hays Town III JD made Jun 26 at 2020 1:26 PM

1LT A. Hays Town III JD — Fri, 26 Jun 2020 13:26:28 -0400

The DC Circuit Court of Appeal grant LTG Flynns Writ of Mandamus, and ordered J. Sullivan to dismiss the charges on the Motion of the Government.
The Government confessed error on the grounds of prosectural, and police (FBI) misconduct. Since the dismissal occured, he has no conviction.

Response by SSG Keith Myles made Jun 26 at 2020 2:22 PM

SSG Keith Myles — Fri, 26 Jun 2020 14:22:19 -0400

I'm reading these comments and it makes me laugh. We live in a country that has laws and rules. Rules are meant to be broken but not laws. Breaking laws can send you to prison. And that is exactly what Flynn did. He broke the law. When federal LEO's ask you a question, you are supposed to answer said question to the best of your knowledge. If you lie, knowingly or unknowingly, you still lied and are subject to punishment. Flynn not only lied but he admitted to lying. And because he is still subject to the UCMJ he should be stripped of all benefits just like a regular retiree who gets into trouble and doesn't have a presidential friend backing them.
Laws should be applied evenly especially punitive ones. Some of you only want the law applied when it goes in your favor (that seems like the only time I hear "rule of law"). If Articles 27 is such a horrible rule then where was the outcry decades ago when it came into effect? You guys a politicizing UCMJ, and you need to stop it.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 27 at 2020 8:48 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 27 Jun 2020 20:48:45 -0400

This sure didn’t age well

Response by 1LT Peter Duston made Jun 27 at 2020 9:03 PM

1LT Peter Duston — Sat, 27 Jun 2020 21:03:55 -0400

At minimum reduced in retired rank to O6. He will have been punished with incarceration already so a courts-martial sounds like double jeopardy to me.

Response by TSgt Ray Lewis made Jun 28 at 2020 12:00 AM

TSgt Ray Lewis — Sun, 28 Jun 2020 00:00:46 -0400

When did Gen. Flynn get convicted?

Response by TSgt Ray Lewis made Jun 28 at 2020 12:02 AM

TSgt Ray Lewis — Sun, 28 Jun 2020 00:02:08 -0400

Didn't I see where all charges were dropped.\

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 28 at 2020 10:11 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 28 Jun 2020 22:11:57 -0400

What Felony did he get convicted of?? This must be a question asked by a Democrat liberal cry baby.

Response by SrA Gina Hotard made Jul 13 at 2020 10:42 AM

SrA Gina Hotard — Mon, 13 Jul 2020 10:42:29 -0400

The only way he loses pension if he flees while on felony probation.

Response by Belinda Medlin made Jul 16 at 2020 9:41 PM

Belinda Medlin — Thu, 16 Jul 2020 21:41:41 -0400

he was not convicted, he was framed and yes hes should receive ALL benefits! NO court-martial for Flynn but for those who framed him!

Response by SPC Kerry Good made Jul 18 at 2020 2:26 PM

SPC Kerry Good — Sat, 18 Jul 2020 14:26:47 -0400

General Flynn was screwed over by Obama's henchmen! POTUS did good deed.

Response by SFC Jeffrey Degenhardt made Jul 18 at 2020 8:20 PM

SFC Jeffrey Degenhardt — Sat, 18 Jul 2020 20:20:13 -0400

What was his “conviction” for? If I understand correctly, he was trapped by the FBI into committing perjury, that the questioning agents didn’t warrant charges. When charges, he was coerced into a guilty plea by threatening his son. And now finally, after finding out about the back room dealings by the FBI, he pulled his guilty plea and the DOJ has declined to prosecute. So, again, where is the felony conviction?

Response by SFC Stephen Foster made Jul 19 at 2020 11:00 PM

SFC Stephen Foster — Sun, 19 Jul 2020 23:00:14 -0400

F the FBI. OBAMA'S FBI. They need prison for what they did and they are gonna get it. Flynn walks. He keeps his pension and hopeful a good position in the current administration to unassuming all the criminal leftovers from the Obama nightmare.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 20 at 2020 10:30 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 20 Jul 2020 10:30:54 -0400

His conviction was based on fake information and will soon be overturned. Leave his retirement alone.

Response by PO1 Doc Dennis made Jul 24 at 2020 10:26 PM

PO1 Doc Dennis — Fri, 24 Jul 2020 22:26:20 -0400

I'm no lawyer but if I'm not mistaken, it would be a matter of double jeopardy if he was to be Court-Martialed relating to the same charges the civilian courts are punishing him for. I haven't been on active duty for over 40 years but if my fading memory serves me correctly, if a military member was to be charged for a crime; the JAG would work with the civilian authorities to decide who would charge and trial the case. But if the offense was the same for both jurisdictions, there would only be one trial. However, I have known of individuals who committed a crime that was tried by the civilian authorities and then was Court-Martialed for different offences under the UCMJ. In most instances my personal choice would be the civilian courts, especially if I knew I was really guilty! I've always seen them to be MUCH more lenient than a Military tribunal.

Response by SPC Robert Bobo made Jul 26 at 2020 1:41 PM

SPC Robert Bobo — Sun, 26 Jul 2020 13:41:17 -0400

Interesting CNN type spin, In my opinion this General isn't a criminal, total fabrication of facts for political gain and he certainly earned his pension in addition, if I were Trump I would consider him for a key leadership position where his skill sets can be used to the benefit of America 1st

Response by LTC Dave Leppanen made Jul 26 at 2020 8:30 PM

LTC Dave Leppanen — Sun, 26 Jul 2020 20:30:58 -0400

No they should not take away his benefits. Lavrenity Beria, Joseph Stalin's head of the secret police, quote "Show me the man, I'll show you the crime," best describes the Michael Flynn case. Washington DC is so corrupt, the if Jesus was on earth today, he would be under investigation.

Response by SSG Hank Ortega made Aug 1 at 2020 10:56 PM

SSG Hank Ortega — Sat, 01 Aug 2020 22:56:22 -0400

What the FBI does ( and other LEO, for that matter) is to ask you a question. Then later you are asked the same question. Anser the second time with just one word difference, and they got you as lying to them. Then they negotiate a guilty plea since you don't have themoney to defend against it, and tell you you'll just get a slap on the wrist. Flynn was not given benefit of counsel when questioned. He asked about a lawyer, and they told him it was just a conversation, he didn't need a lawyer. He went broke defending from this bullshit, and it is finally going to be thrown out if the criminal judging him relents.

Response by SGT Steve Adams made Aug 4 at 2020 3:02 PM

SGT Steve Adams — Tue, 04 Aug 2020 15:02:45 -0400

I'm not sure that his family should be penalized for his criminal deeds. On the other hand, he definitely should do jail time for his crimes.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 17 at 2020 3:04 PM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 17 Aug 2020 15:04:07 -0400

The man was convicted of a process crime, something that isn't even a crime unless there is an investigation ongoing, which he was NOT informed of. Also, his "lying to the FBI" was based upon false questioning under false pretenses and their interpretation of his response, not factual information. Comey even admitted he shouldn't have been able to get away with the set-up on camera. LTG Flynn is an American hero, and an innocent man that was set up by the deep state. Period.

Response by FA Jackie Schlageter made Aug 19 at 2020 5:13 PM

FA Jackie Schlageter — Wed, 19 Aug 2020 17:13:07 -0400

The case against Michael Flynn was a trumped up case from start to finish. He did nothing wrong. The only thing he did wrong was be a friend of Donald Trump and that is not a crime. If they are going to criminalize Flynn then they better criminalize Joe Biden for what he helped his son do. Enough Said

Response by PO1 David Shepardson made Aug 20 at 2020 7:41 AM

PO1 David Shepardson — Thu, 20 Aug 2020 07:41:46 -0400

You are correct iny your assessment of Courts Martial, however, but I believe this would be up to JAG.

Response by SFC John Hart made Sep 3 at 2020 11:58 AM

SFC John Hart — Thu, 03 Sep 2020 11:58:27 -0400

Leave General Flynn alone!

Response by Maj Eric Gumz made Sep 3 at 2020 6:36 PM

Maj Eric Gumz — Thu, 03 Sep 2020 18:36:30 -0400

By your logic, all retired active and reserve military who are openly speaking against the president should also be prosecuted under the UCMJ and therefor lose their pay and entitlements. Im good with that. Start the petition, I'll sign it. I think Mattis should be the first, then Powell. Remember your oath? I do.

Response by TSgt Maria O'Sullivan made Sep 3 at 2020 10:05 PM

TSgt Maria O'Sullivan — Thu, 03 Sep 2020 22:05:11 -0400

He was railroaded. Leave his pension alone

Response by SFC Antonio Baird made Sep 4 at 2020 11:56 AM

SFC Antonio Baird — Fri, 04 Sep 2020 11:56:10 -0400

Yes, he should still receive his retired military benefits and no, he should not be Court-Martialed. The Army has enough problems to deal with such as Ft. Hood and other places.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 4 at 2020 4:24 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 04 Sep 2020 16:24:57 -0400

He was set up by the Obama Administration. His FISA warrent was under false pretenses. The DOJ will not prosecute due to EXCULPITORY evidence but judge Sullivan will not close the case. Never convicted, never a fellon. Wake up and smell the coffee. We are at war from within.

Response by A1C Tim Rohrer made Sep 5 at 2020 9:17 PM

A1C Tim Rohrer — Sat, 05 Sep 2020 21:17:27 -0400

Yes over 40% of VA workers r exfelons so what

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 6 at 2020 12:46 AM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 06 Sep 2020 00:46:13 -0400

so you know he was set up , this is a loaded question. as they were al caponing trump and pressuring everyone around him to cave in and lie about him , honorable general flynn was entrapped. he is a hero. he has been exonerated. as trump has no Russia causing is wS all a lie against him. this is a ridiculously loaded question. of course he should get his benefits and full legal cost reimbursement.

he is a hero.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 6 at 2020 12:48 AM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 06 Sep 2020 00:48:17 -0400

Michael flyn exonerated American Hero.

Response by Sgt Douglas R Baker made Sep 6 at 2020 11:49 AM

Sgt Douglas R Baker — Sun, 06 Sep 2020 11:49:40 -0400

He was not convicted! He was set up by the Obama administration! He should keep his pay and sue the DOJ for millions for destroying his life!

Response by Cpl Geoff Smith made Sep 6 at 2020 2:38 PM

Cpl Geoff Smith — Sun, 06 Sep 2020 14:38:16 -0400

Since he wasn't court martialed, he should still be able to keep his military benefits. Because of a felony conviction, he will lose his VA benefits, unless conviction is overturned, or he is pardoned.

Response by SFC Aubrey Campbell made Sep 6 at 2020 8:10 PM

SFC Aubrey Campbell — Sun, 06 Sep 2020 20:10:17 -0400

Not worth it. No need for more drama!

Response by PFC Stephen Trynosky made Sep 6 at 2020 11:08 PM

PFC Stephen Trynosky — Sun, 06 Sep 2020 23:08:06 -0400

This has to be a trick question right? The Obama folks hated Kelly while he worked for them and canned him. When Trump hired him he was set up, it was obvious. It was basically admitted to by Comey and his agents. If you take that Constitution that we all swore an oath to seriously, Kelly is a damned hero. We should be demanding Justice FOR him.

Response by MSG Steve Collier made Sep 7 at 2020 5:45 AM

MSG Steve Collier — Mon, 07 Sep 2020 05:45:05 -0400

General Flynn committed no offense. He offered his guilty plea so the FBI wouldn't harass his son. His alleged offense was lying to the FBI. He didn't. And the original interviewers wrote as much in their case notes. Plz do some research using sources that aren't involved in the continuing coup attempts versus President Trump.

Response by SFC Dave Paul made Sep 7 at 2020 7:16 AM

SFC Dave Paul — Mon, 07 Sep 2020 07:16:43 -0400

I do not know why this popped up on my email? With that said — I find it surprising that this question/comment was even entertained. When this situation first occurred it was obvious that it was the old adage ‘give me a man and I will show you his crime’. Some what paraphrased but from the the founder of the KBG. Typical Marxist, Socialist, Communist, (pick which one you you prefer) playbook.

Response by PO1 Jacoby Lowney made Sep 7 at 2020 1:16 PM

PO1 Jacoby Lowney — Mon, 07 Sep 2020 13:16:07 -0400

A yes or no answer should apply to a single question and not two questions. I am not answering this!

Response by CSM Verne J Washington Sr made Sep 7 at 2020 3:05 PM

CSM Verne J Washington Sr — Mon, 07 Sep 2020 15:05:14 -0400

Gentlemen... It's great to have a civil discussion. We are all going to have our various opinions. Just like in the military, we might have to think before we type. Throwing disrespectful statements at each other is not what what we are about. In keeping politics out of it... Let's just go off of some good old military factual knowledge

With that being said, let me post a question within the question. If we as leaders has a Soldier admit to a crime while being investigated, would they have not received punishment under UCMJ. Regardless of the circumstances, the man admitted to a crime. He then worked with the government hoping for a reduced sentence. Then after leading the Government on for 3 years, he changed his mind, fired his lawyers and took everything he said back.

What would you have done if your Soldier, Airman, Sailor, or Marine came to you with that nonsense. In my honest opinion, no one pleads guilty unless they are guilty. That is factual.. Period.

As far as his pension goes, he earned that for his military service. Had he been on active duty, the gloves would have been off.. Fortunately, those shenanigans' happened after retirement. His distinguished military record will forever be tarnished by these events.

Leave his retirement benefits alone...

Response by TSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 8 at 2020 6:05 AM

TSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 08 Sep 2020 06:05:53 -0400

He earned his benefits before being framed. So leave his retirement alone.

Response by SPC David Link made Sep 8 at 2020 6:38 AM

SPC David Link — Tue, 08 Sep 2020 06:38:53 -0400

Absolutely if it was anyone on lower level we would be... It's always the elitest that feel as though they don't have to be held to the same standard and it's disgusting

Response by SPC Don Goffaux made Sep 8 at 2020 10:59 AM

SPC Don Goffaux — Tue, 08 Sep 2020 10:59:31 -0400

I am a 160% S.C. veteran & if I get convicted with a felony charge I would loose all benifits including Social Security !
So the law should be the same for retirement pensions no matter your rank. . . We are expected to act honorably & responsibly the rest of our lives & are held accountable for our actions!

Response by PO2 Paul Dempsey made Sep 8 at 2020 12:00 PM

PO2 Paul Dempsey — Tue, 08 Sep 2020 12:00:02 -0400

Sadly my answer is no. His work for Turkey (hidden), meeting and payments from Russia, his lying to the FBI, p,eady quilty twice and him taking an oath to Qanon makes it clear. No

Response by SSG Terry Robins made Sep 8 at 2020 4:48 PM

SSG Terry Robins — Tue, 08 Sep 2020 16:48:29 -0400

Leave Him The Hell Alone. He was setup by the crooked ass Democrats, They lie to the American People every day they should be in jail not this great Warrior.

Response by SGT Joe Nemoede made Sep 8 at 2020 4:55 PM

SGT Joe Nemoede — Tue, 08 Sep 2020 16:55:49 -0400

Unless something changed today he has not been convicted of anything. The trial is ongoing. The DOJ has dropped the charges but the judge won’t let them. It has been to the appeals court twice already and it’s back in Sullivan’s kangaroo court as of now.

Response by PO2 Lorraine Corso made Sep 9 at 2020 5:44 AM

PO2 Lorraine Corso — Wed, 09 Sep 2020 05:44:04 -0400

Disagree. Retired personnel (of which I am one) are not subject to the UCMJ.

Response by SSG Rene Ortiz made Sep 9 at 2020 7:29 AM

SSG Rene Ortiz — Wed, 09 Sep 2020 07:29:43 -0400

Fuck him, he’s a lying fuck... he can starve for all I know, the guy is undignified...

Response by CMSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 9 at 2020 9:55 AM

CMSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 09 Sep 2020 09:55:53 -0400

I think the apolitical military should remain far away from political prosecutions

Response by CPL Ruben Calderon made Sep 9 at 2020 1:46 PM

CPL Ruben Calderon — Wed, 09 Sep 2020 13:46:00 -0400

Veteran R. Calderon
He did, what he was told what to do as a Soldier, he doesn't go and make up these operations, maybe you should asserts the President, that's who approves the hits, also the FBI and CIA.

Response by SSG Timothy Hertenstein made Sep 9 at 2020 2:32 PM

SSG Timothy Hertenstein — Wed, 09 Sep 2020 14:32:32 -0400

I still wonder how many times TRUMP has Lied since he has been in Office. Then what he said about VETERANS who gave all to their Country! He is the one who Needs to GO. DUMP TRUMP!! That man is the Worst I have ever seen in my life. Trumps way or the High way. What a peace of CRAP.

Response by PO1 Larry Razey made Sep 9 at 2020 7:24 PM

PO1 Larry Razey — Wed, 09 Sep 2020 19:24:02 -0400

Gen Flynn WAS NOT truly convicted! His trial was completely rigged from the Judge, Jury forewomen and the corrupt FBI case. It was a total "DC Swamp" and "Deep state" cronies who tried to 'railroad' Flynn into point.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 10 at 2020 5:19 AM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 10 Sep 2020 05:19:18 -0400

He cannot be court-martialed for the same because he was already tried in federal district court. The double jeopardy clause prohibits such a double-prosecution within the federal system.

Response by MSgt John Longface made Sep 10 at 2020 3:23 PM

MSgt John Longface — Thu, 10 Sep 2020 15:23:34 -0400

When was he convicted? Last I heard he was still being persecuted and not receiving equal justice and not receiving his due process. If this were a drug dealer, his case would have been dismissed long ago.

Response by SSgt Daniel Batista made Sep 10 at 2020 11:28 PM

SSgt Daniel Batista — Thu, 10 Sep 2020 23:28:46 -0400

I believe he should be court martialed .He is now an embarassment to the uniform.

Response by PO1 John Williams made Sep 11 at 2020 8:58 PM

PO1 John Williams — Fri, 11 Sep 2020 20:58:17 -0400

According to SCOUS, any policeman (FBI, Congress, etc) can lie to a civilian and the civilian (in this case (subject to UCMJ) can be charged with the lying. BUT, said policeman, FBI, Congress, etc., can lie to you without you having any legal recourse. This should be changed, but, of course, guess who would have to write and pass said bill. Do you think they will expose themselves to legal recourse, such as a lawsuit. Like right now, 320 million citizens could file a lawsuit because of all the lies they are telling.

Response by CH (CPT) Jerry McGowin made Sep 11 at 2020 9:03 PM

CH (CPT) Jerry McGowin — Fri, 11 Sep 2020 21:03:21 -0400

He was not prosecuted under the UCMJ. It seems as more information has come to light the the prosecution against him was prosecution over reach. It was a political attack.

Response by SPC Floyd Hall made Sep 12 at 2020 3:55 PM

SPC Floyd Hall — Sat, 12 Sep 2020 15:55:51 -0400

As a flag officer he remains attached to the military for life. His conduct reflects on all of us both active duty and veteran. He should have to forfeit 1 year of pension for each lie he told. Also, law enforcement should NOT be allowed to lie to anyone at anytime.

Response by LtCol John Sargent made Sep 13 at 2020 6:57 AM

LtCol John Sargent — Sun, 13 Sep 2020 06:57:05 -0400

NO. Flynn is an excellent officer who did nothing wrong, and was set up. The officer who should be court martialed, reduced in rank, and either confined or kicked out of the US is LTCOL ALEXANDER VINDMAN. VINDMAN is a criminal and unpatriotic scumbag.

Response by 1SG Gary Ridge made Sep 13 at 2020 9:20 AM

1SG Gary Ridge — Sun, 13 Sep 2020 09:20:20 -0400

Should never been convicted in the first place. Fruits from a Poisonous Tree!

Response by LTC Joe Anderson made Sep 14 at 2020 1:02 PM

LTC Joe Anderson — Mon, 14 Sep 2020 13:02:33 -0400

Flynn's Official Military Bio From DIA:

Lieutenant General Michael T. Flynn, USA
Director, Defense Intelligence Agency

Michael T. Flynn graduated from the University of Rhode Island in 1981 and was commissioned a second lieutenant in Military Intelligence. His first assignment was as a paratrooper of the 82nd Airborne Division at Fort Bragg, North Carolina. Since then, he has served in a variety of command and staff positions to include, Commander, 313th Military Intelligence Battalion and G2, 82nd Airborne Division; G2, 18th Airborne Corps, CJ2, CJTF-180 Operation Enduring Freedom (OEF) in Afghanistan; Commander, 111th Military Intelligence Brigade at the Army's Intelligence Center at Fort Huachuca, Arizona; Director of Intelligence, Joint Special Operations Command with duty in OEF and
Operation Iraqi Freedom (OIF); Director of Intelligence, United States Central Command with duty in OEF and OIF; Director of Intelligence, the Joint Staff; Director of Intelligence, International Security Assistance Force-Afghanistan and US Forces- Afghanistan and Special Assistant to the Deputy Chief of Staff, G2. He most recently served as the Assistant Director of National Intelligence for Partner Engagement before becoming the 18th Director of the Defense Intelligence Agency on 24 July 2012.

Lieutenant General Flynn's other assignments include multiple tours at Fort Bragg, North Carolina, where he deployed with the 82nd Airborne Division as a platoon leader for Operation URGENT FURY in Grenada, and as Chief of Joint War Plans for JTF-180 UPHOLD DEMOCRACY in Haiti. He also served with the 25th Infantry Division at Schofield Barracks, Hawaii, and as the Senior Observer/Controller for Intelligence at the Joint Readiness Training Center at Fort Polk, Louisiana.

Lieutenant General Flynn holds an undergraduate degree in Management Science from the University of Rhode Island and holds three graduate degrees: a Master of Business Administration in Telecommunications from Golden Gate University, San Francisco; a Master of Military Arts and Sciences from Fort Leavenworth, Kansas; and a
Master of National Security and Strategic Studies from the United States Naval War College. He also holds an Honorary Doctorate of Laws from The Institute of World Politics, Washington, D.C.

Lieutenant General Flynn is a graduate of the Army's Intelligence Officer Basic, Advanced, and Electronic Warfare Courses; the Combined Armed Services Staff Course; the United States Army Command and General Staff College and School of Advanced Military Studies; and the United States Naval War College.

His awards include the Defense Superior Service Medal (with 3 Oak Leaf Clusters), Legion of Merit (with Oak Leaf Cluster), Bronze Star Medal (with 3 Oak Leaf Clusters), Meritorious Service Medal (with Silver Oak Leaf Cluster), Joint Service Commendation Medal, Army Commendation Medal (with 4 Oak Leaf Clusters), the NATO Service Medal, and several service and campaign ribbons. Lieutenant General Flynn also has earned the Ranger Tab and Master Parachutist Badge, and the Joint Staff Identification Badge.

Lieutenant General Flynn is happily married and has two sons.

https://docs.house.gov/meetings/AS/AS00/20150213/102931/HHRG-114-AS00-Bio-FlynnUSAretM-20150213.pdf

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Response by A1C Lloyd Box made Sep 16 at 2020 12:02 PM

A1C Lloyd Box — Wed, 16 Sep 2020 12:02:16 -0400

The only reason that he pleaded guilty was to protect the son that was being threatened by the FBI. He was being threatened by mental exercise not being beaten by a tire iron. They can both be effective. Did I mention that his son was threatened with prison. I am 69 years old. I would have done the same thing to protect either of my sons who are in their prime. When government can bully us, we are not sliding into tyranny. We are already there.

Response by MAJ Jim Woods made Sep 18 at 2020 10:33 AM

MAJ Jim Woods — Fri, 18 Sep 2020 10:33:55 -0400

Yes! Absolutely... He got SCREWED!

Response by LTC Bob Olson made Sep 25 at 2020 7:00 PM

LTC Bob Olson — Fri, 25 Sep 2020 19:00:59 -0400

Are you kidding. General Flynn needs to sue the crap out of the soft coupe participants in this that set him up. First, he did nothing wrong, next, he didn’t lie, even comey is on the record saying he didn’t lie. But the FBI played a game and Flynn exhausted his finances in legal fees on a bogus charge. But the Coupe needed to ensure Flynn was 1st not avail to Trump and 2, he had the dirt on many previous administrations questionable dealings.

Response by SFC Clifford Brewer made Sep 26 at 2020 7:51 AM

SFC Clifford Brewer — Sat, 26 Sep 2020 07:51:18 -0400

Do you really know if retired LTG Flynn innocent and never got caught with his hand in the cookie jar.
What LTG Flynn case got to do with former President Obama if worked for President Trump. I see some of you hated a black man was elected for President and he is not the President today but you’ll still throwing rock after 4 years. Now 4 years later you got a President running wild doing what he want and I haven’t read no one thing he wrong..( REALLY )

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 26 at 2020 1:34 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 26 Sep 2020 13:34:29 -0400

Old post, but I'll comment. I don't believe that retired members should be court martialed for violations in the civilian world that doesn't impact the military. Flynn's case is a political mess and he was caught up in a FBI trap. The DOJ is dropping charges, but the judge is playing the role of a clown due to politics. Flynn should still receive his benefits.

Response by SGM Gerald Fife made Sep 27 at 2020 8:21 AM

SGM Gerald Fife — Sun, 27 Sep 2020 08:21:23 -0400

Convicted? When did he go to jail? This man was stung by the FBI. Doing what he did exposed a lot of corruption in the FBI. He should not be court martialed. 842 ups just because you quote the UCMJ? Does that mean all these people agree with you? The answer to your question should be a flat yes or no. NO!

Response by CW4 William Kessinger made Sep 27 at 2020 6:19 PM

CW4 William Kessinger — Sun, 27 Sep 2020 18:19:12 -0400

Gen Flynn was not convicted. Only charged.

Response by MAJ Hugh Blanchard made Sep 27 at 2020 10:31 PM

MAJ Hugh Blanchard — Sun, 27 Sep 2020 22:31:02 -0400

I served a long time ago with Mike Flynn. He was a great Army MI officer and he put himself at serious risk several times during his long military service. Having read the nonsense that has been spread about LTG Flynn, President Trump, and others in his administration, I'm entirely opposed to any attempt to attack his pension. In fact, thanks to his brilliant legal defense by Sydney Powell and the discoveries of the incredible corruption in the Obama administration, I believe that Mike Flynn will end up receiving a very large settlement when he sues his false accusers in federal court. I'd love to see several of them, including Strzok, Page, Comey, McCabe, Brennan and many others of their corrupt colleagues go to jail for a LONG time. This whole business has been a demonstration of the incredible corruption surrounding the "Welfare Empire" that has been ruining our country for a long time.

Response by CSM Patrick Durr made Oct 2 at 2020 12:01 AM

CSM Patrick Durr — Fri, 02 Oct 2020 00:01:54 -0400

Stupid question to start... but, what does being a convicted felon have to do with receiving benefits earned from over 35 years service completed prior to very questionable partisan persecution? Apples and oranges...

Response by MSgt Kevin Mills made Oct 10 at 2020 4:47 PM

MSgt Kevin Mills — Sat, 10 Oct 2020 16:47:59 -0400

Continue to receive benefits - No!
Court

Response by PO1 Mike Wallace made Oct 14 at 2020 3:20 PM

PO1 Mike Wallace — Wed, 14 Oct 2020 15:20:15 -0400

The question whether there was an offense at all. The FBI agents that interviewed him said they do not believe he lied. Remember Flynn was coming in as national security advisor and in the course of preparing for that job it is normal if not required they have contact with foreign powers. He answered the question as he interpreted it which as I understand the way it was framed required some interpretation. To believe this was anything but?a witch hunt requires one to ignore comeys own words. Then to substantiate their allegations they didn't just try to financially destroy the man but threatened his kids with prosecution. Wouldn't you say 'guilty' if it saved your child from prison on drummed up charges?
General Flynn should receive all the benefits entitled him based on his many years of service.
As far as a generic question about whether a felon should receive their retirement goes I say not if they are in jail/prison. After release it starts again.

Response by PO1 Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 15 at 2020 7:00 PM

PO1 Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 15 Nov 2020 19:00:26 -0500

Wrong. Retired personnel are not subject to the ucmj.

Response by 1SG James Kelly made Nov 16 at 2020 7:59 AM

1SG James Kelly — Mon, 16 Nov 2020 07:59:36 -0500

Yes. No.
Any other questions?

Response by MSgt Kevin Carr made Nov 17 at 2020 8:23 PM

MSgt Kevin Carr — Tue, 17 Nov 2020 20:23:33 -0500

Due to the circumstances surrounding the charges I believe his pension should left alone. The FBI acted in bad faith and without integrity, threatened to go after his son. He fell on the sword due to dishonest actions.

Response by MAJ Stephen Zglinicki made Nov 18 at 2020 4:31 AM

MAJ Stephen Zglinicki — Wed, 18 Nov 2020 04:31:51 -0500

It would appear that Patreus had a zipper problem and Flynn an intelligence one. In both cases they were either stupid enough to make stupid mistakes or stupid enough to position themselves in volatile situations/acts where they thought no one would take notice…typical attributes found in street gang leadership.

Response by SPC Tim Hooey made Nov 20 at 2020 1:02 PM

SPC Tim Hooey — Fri, 20 Nov 2020 13:02:47 -0500

YES

Response by SPC Tim Hooey made Nov 20 at 2020 1:05 PM

SPC Tim Hooey — Fri, 20 Nov 2020 13:05:23 -0500

Response by CWO3 Mike O'Neal made Dec 3 at 2020 8:35 PM

CWO3 Mike O'Neal — Thu, 03 Dec 2020 20:35:30 -0500

His "confession" should be tossed out, his "conviction" overturned and his record expunged.

Response by Maj Ross Webster made Dec 3 at 2020 9:13 PM

Maj Ross Webster — Thu, 03 Dec 2020 21:13:56 -0500

HE WAS NOT CONVICTED OF ANYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Response by Sgt Michael Lefort made Dec 3 at 2020 10:17 PM

Sgt Michael Lefort — Thu, 03 Dec 2020 22:17:26 -0500

General Flynn should NOT be Court-Martialed. He should be made whole with all back-pay and allowances, his personal accounts, and two pounds of flesh.

Response by PO2 Skip Kirkwood made Dec 3 at 2020 11:34 PM

PO2 Skip Kirkwood — Thu, 03 Dec 2020 23:34:30 -0500

He has been completely exonerated by way of a presidential pardon. He can not be tried again for the same offenses (double jeopardy). It is as though he was never charged. Out.

Response by SGT Charles David made Dec 3 at 2020 11:37 PM

SGT Charles David — Thu, 03 Dec 2020 23:37:50 -0500

LTG Flynn is totally innocent even without the pardon. He was being attacked by the Obama administration as a crutch to get to the President in order to get him out of office

Response by PFC Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 4 at 2020 12:24 PM

PFC Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 04 Dec 2020 12:24:03 -0500

I'm of the opinion that currently serving military leadership has sworn an oath to defend the constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic. That a communist coup has been underway for decades following the Cloward Piven plan and that coup is in its end stages.

That it is even a question if Flynn should be court marshalled by the US military for trying to protect the US president from an attempted communist coup is a joke.

Response by 1SG Brian Adams made Dec 4 at 2020 1:37 PM

1SG Brian Adams — Fri, 04 Dec 2020 13:37:59 -0500

Negative, leave his pension alone. He did nothing while wearing the uniform. He was a 3 star General and warrior. His accusations and phony charges by spying Obama, have nothing to do with his career. Keep in mind, the same thing Gen Flynn was accused of the Lyin Biden (cheating) team has done; already communicated with foreign countries????

Response by CPT Tío Rusty made Dec 4 at 2020 8:40 PM

CPT Tío Rusty — Fri, 04 Dec 2020 20:40:46 -0500

He was framed and now he has been pardoned. Pardoned means nothing is held against him.

Response by CPT Tío Rusty made Dec 4 at 2020 8:41 PM

CPT Tío Rusty — Fri, 04 Dec 2020 20:41:29 -0500

He was framed and now he is pardoned therefore nothing is held against him. He was retired and nothing should happen to him.

Response by Cpl Benjamin Long made Dec 4 at 2020 10:11 PM

Cpl Benjamin Long — Fri, 04 Dec 2020 22:11:25 -0500

Double Jeopardy is prohibted by US constitution....

Response by Cpl Benjamin Long made Dec 4 at 2020 10:17 PM

Cpl Benjamin Long — Fri, 04 Dec 2020 22:17:00 -0500

https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/fifth_amendment

Fifth Amendment

The Fifth Amendment creates a number of rights relevant to both criminal and civil legal proceedings. In criminal cases, the Fifth Amendment guarantees the right to a grand jury, forbids “double jeopardy,” and protects against self-incrimination. It also requires that “due process of law” be part of any proceeding that denies a citizen “life, liberty or property” and requires the government to compensate citizens when it takes private property...

Response by Cpl Benjamin Long made Dec 4 at 2020 10:28 PM

Cpl Benjamin Long — Fri, 04 Dec 2020 22:28:11 -0500

https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/fifth_amendment

Fifth Amendment

Response by SP5 Derick Johnsohne made Dec 5 at 2020 3:31 AM

SP5 Derick Johnsohne — Sat, 05 Dec 2020 03:31:53 -0500

i think conviction entails loss of benefits . a lowly sm would certainly lose his .

Response by PFC Allen Nichols made Dec 5 at 2020 1:26 PM

PFC Allen Nichols — Sat, 05 Dec 2020 13:26:22 -0500

Your premise is wrong. Lt. Gen. Flynn was never convicted of a felony. He received a Presidential pardon before his case was adjudicated.

Response by SPC John Tacetta made Dec 5 at 2020 2:48 PM

SPC John Tacetta — Sat, 05 Dec 2020 14:48:25 -0500

Everybody should know by now that lying to law enforcement can be prosecuted as a crime. Hey, it's asymmetric, but get used to it. Seems it's a catch-all these days. You have the right to remain silent: use it.

He got pardoned, so, like it or not, he's a free bird and can collect his pension. Stick him up on the shelf next to Oliver North and William Calley. Not judging, just saying.

Response by PO1 Tc1 Uscg made Dec 5 at 2020 5:51 PM

PO1 Tc1 Uscg — Sat, 05 Dec 2020 17:51:33 -0500

Military can't give him back the years he served. so the military should leave this alone. He earned his pension and privileges. As a convicted felon, he could (or has) lost his right to own a gun as example, but he should not loose his EARNED pension and entitlements.

Response by SP6 Peter Kreutzfeldt made Dec 6 at 2020 9:05 AM

SP6 Peter Kreutzfeldt — Sun, 06 Dec 2020 09:05:11 -0500

have to agree with LTC Earls. Leave the man alone. They have done enough to him and his family

Response by SFC Douglas Entwistle made Dec 6 at 2020 11:30 AM

SFC Douglas Entwistle — Sun, 06 Dec 2020 11:30:07 -0500

Simple answer, no.

Offenses that subject a retired servicemember to UCMJ action must have occurred during active service. During inactive service when subject to the UCMJ (when in the Individual Ready Reserve or a reservist's periods between ADT and UTAs,) offenses are the jurisdiction of civilian law unless the offense is specific to the UCMJ.

Flynn retired in August 2014 and had no remaining Military Service Obligation that would have had him on inactive status.

And just as a note- the original post smacks of FOBBIT-level barracks lawyering with an underhanded, disingenuous and ignorant application worthy of CNN.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 6 at 2020 5:43 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 06 Dec 2020 17:43:57 -0500

His conviction was thrown out. Gen. Flynn was unethically targeted by the DOJ. His case was entirely a politically motivated hit job.

Response by SSG Stan Tichko made Dec 6 at 2020 8:32 PM

SSG Stan Tichko — Sun, 06 Dec 2020 20:32:10 -0500

Yes he should receive his retirement

Response by CPL Diana Rosgallio made Dec 6 at 2020 10:24 PM

CPL Diana Rosgallio — Sun, 06 Dec 2020 22:24:47 -0500

Everyone knows the poor man was framed. So no! The question is ridiculous.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 7 at 2020 2:46 AM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 07 Dec 2020 02:46:02 -0500

Gen Flynn was pardoned by the President, case closed

Response by SSG Clayton Blackwell made Dec 7 at 2020 7:32 AM

SSG Clayton Blackwell — Mon, 07 Dec 2020 07:32:14 -0500

Well first of all, he was not convicted because he did not go to trial, he plead guilty but he was not sentenced and it was never fully finalized prior to the pardon, so no conviction. Additionally, he received a full Presidential pardon, so he is not a convicted felon. He earned every one of his benefits prior to the supposed act, so yes, he should get his benefits even if he had been convicted, because they were earned through great service to the country. Lastly, he should not be court-martialed because it was a big political hoax in the first place, and again, he was pardoned by the President. Leave the man the hell alone!

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 7 at 2020 10:27 AM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 07 Dec 2020 10:27:30 -0500

Yes, even if he was a general

Response by COL William Oseles made Dec 7 at 2020 11:14 AM

COL William Oseles — Mon, 07 Dec 2020 11:14:10 -0500

The FBI lied to GEN Flynn in their interview and when he asked if he should have a lawyer present they told him no, he was not subject to an investigation. The thrust of the interrogation was the possibilities of improper contacts with foreign government officials, while serving as a member of the Transition Team. That charge never made it into the official charges but was pushed by the media and democrats saying what a criminal he was.
Then over the course of the multi hour interview the basically asked him the same questions in slightly different context and when based on that context his answers were not all the same so they accused him of lying.
As I recall GEN Flynn was fighting the whole lying to the FBI case UNTIL they brought up going after his son.
But now when HilLIARy lied repeatedly to the FBI they did not taker notes or video tape the interview, which was their excuse for not charging her. HilLIARy also repeatedly lied to Congress, lied to the American people and violated the Federal Records Act.

Response by MAJ Karl Stumpff made Dec 7 at 2020 5:21 PM

MAJ Karl Stumpff — Mon, 07 Dec 2020 17:21:31 -0500

He is a disgrace to the uniform. Bring his sorry ass back on AD, bust him back to O-6, and make him pay back his retirement collected during this affair.

Response by SSG William McDonald made Dec 7 at 2020 7:55 PM

SSG William McDonald — Mon, 07 Dec 2020 19:55:01 -0500

This is the stupidest post I have ever seen. Written by someone who is in the final thros of TDS....you forgot to follow the constitution. HE WAS NOT CONVICTED of anything. The charges were dropped BY THE DOJ. The corrupt Judge refused to drop the case even without a PROSECUTOR!!! THAT is why the President issued a PARDON.......just sayin

Response by SSG William McDonald made Dec 7 at 2020 7:57 PM

SSG William McDonald — Mon, 07 Dec 2020 19:57:39 -0500

Are you people REALLY that caught up in your TDS???? You have to be CONVICTED of a crime first people.......the charges were DROPPED BY THE DOJ.......the ONLY reason the President issued a Pardon is because the corrupt judge refused to dismiss the case........so all your crying and sniveling is all rediculous

Response by LTC Joe Anderson made Dec 9 at 2020 6:52 PM

LTC Joe Anderson — Wed, 09 Dec 2020 18:52:29 -0500

Update: In addition to Flynn's Presidential Pardon, at 2:14 PM ET, Tuesday December 8, 2020, Judge Emmet Sullivan of the US District Court of DC officially dismissed Michael Flynn's criminal case as moot. Followed by an OVERLY wordy 43 page explanation/Memorandum Opinion.

Response by PO1 Michael Wilson made Dec 17 at 2020 12:36 PM

PO1 Michael Wilson — Thu, 17 Dec 2020 12:36:22 -0500

I'm guessing that regardless of the way things are, it will be a coulda, shoulda, wouda situation. General Michael Flynn was framed by the FBI under the obamanation administration, the case was eventually dropped, and he was given a full pardon.
I'm no lawyer but it seems if he isn't entitled to his retirement, it won't be for this. If he hasn't been getting his retirement because of this, then he should be entitled to backpay.
As we all know, The Military will find any excuse they can to screw someone out if they can. There might be some " Minority Report " Precrime article they can use to deny something.
I hope none of this actually applies to General Flynn and he has been receiving his retirement this whole time.

Response by CH (MAJ) Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 23 at 2020 10:57 AM

CH (MAJ) Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 23 Dec 2020 10:57:37 -0500

1. He has been pardoned so he’s no longer a convict.
2. He was convicted of a process crime that resulted from illegal entrapment.
3. He was no longer in service and the alleged crime was not military related so UCMJ has no jurisdiction.

Response by MSgt Brian Williams made Dec 23 at 2020 1:21 PM

MSgt Brian Williams — Wed, 23 Dec 2020 13:21:38 -0500

He should be treated just like you or me if we did the same thing - lie to the FBI.

Response by Cpl Roman Makuch made Dec 27 at 2020 9:00 PM

Cpl Roman Makuch — Sun, 27 Dec 2020 21:00:20 -0500

Actually, legally he is not a convicted felon. A person receiving a pardon no longer has a the pardoned conviction on their record. In Gen Flynn's case, there never was a conviction. The prosecutor dropped the case. So please explain how Gen Flynn is a convicted felon? While you are at it, please give the date of said conviction.

Response by PFC Ken Mason made Dec 31 at 2020 2:40 AM

PFC Ken Mason — Thu, 31 Dec 2020 02:40:04 -0500

You label him a convicted felon when he is a pardoned victim of a hateful abuse of power witch hunt. His commander-in-Chief pardoned him. Those that convicted him have no shame. Only hatred.

Response by Sgt Robert Beverly made Dec 31 at 2020 4:45 AM

Sgt Robert Beverly — Thu, 31 Dec 2020 04:45:41 -0500

Yes, he is a disgrace to the uniform and his behavior is that of a traitor. He knew he could not lie to the fbi. I used to teach classes during the American Wars in SE Asia as a member of VVAW on how to deal with the fbi. The only question or demand you are obliged to follow is the demand for ID. How to deal with the fbi, simple refuse to do other than ID if demanded and call an attorney. Do NOT let in your house. Btw as a commissioned/certified LEO in New Mexico I attended a fbi class on interviews and interrogations and it was simple stated that as an LEO I had the right to lie to a suspect. Yes that is wrong ethically and morally.

Response by SSgt Daniel Batista made Dec 31 at 2020 7:03 AM

SSgt Daniel Batista — Thu, 31 Dec 2020 07:03:16 -0500

Trully i feel that he is not entitled to any benefits and should be dishonorable discharged with no more charges

Response by SPC Arthur Lowder made Dec 31 at 2020 7:49 AM

SPC Arthur Lowder — Thu, 31 Dec 2020 07:49:14 -0500

potus have pardon him so he can keep all pension flynn now is clear.

Response by SPC Perry Gresham made Dec 31 at 2020 9:27 AM

SPC Perry Gresham — Thu, 31 Dec 2020 09:27:27 -0500

Hey! You hear that?! I think twitter is calling your name.

Response by SPC Perry Gresham made Dec 31 at 2020 9:28 AM

SPC Perry Gresham — Thu, 31 Dec 2020 09:28:39 -0500

Hey! You hear that?! I think twitter is calling your name.

Response by SSgt Tony Wilson Sr made Dec 31 at 2020 10:00 AM

SSgt Tony Wilson Sr — Thu, 31 Dec 2020 10:00:18 -0500

Won't happen due to Presidential Pardon.

Response by CW5 Mark Smith made Dec 31 at 2020 11:18 AM

CW5 Mark Smith — Thu, 31 Dec 2020 11:18:44 -0500

His presidential pardon negates any possible UCMJ actions.

Response by MAJ Carl Owen made Dec 31 at 2020 11:47 AM

MAJ Carl Owen — Thu, 31 Dec 2020 11:47:42 -0500

Flynn is a loon. At this point I see no reason to prolong his 15 minutes of fame. His actions reflect poorly on service members and portray us as those fictional characters of the great movie Dr. Strangelove. Let's straighten our berets and move forward with the purpose of the United States military, protecting and defending our country and Constitution.

Response by SP5 M Jenkins made Dec 31 at 2020 11:54 AM

SP5 M Jenkins — Thu, 31 Dec 2020 11:54:48 -0500

NOT.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 31 at 2020 1:00 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 31 Dec 2020 13:00:45 -0500

Yes.

Response by SP5 Norman Binder made Dec 31 at 2020 2:07 PM

SP5 Norman Binder — Thu, 31 Dec 2020 14:07:06 -0500

I think Flynn has overlooked the fact he is still in military service. He can be court-martialed for his seditious actions. Then he'll be in food lines...inside or outside.

Response by HN Sheldon Nadler made Dec 31 at 2020 2:24 PM

HN Sheldon Nadler — Thu, 31 Dec 2020 14:24:12 -0500

The General was railroaded by the Democrats and it was based all on lies. President pardoned him and he should receive his full benefits!

Response by SSgt James Holt made Dec 31 at 2020 7:08 PM

SSgt James Holt — Thu, 31 Dec 2020 19:08:25 -0500

Sarge, my understanding is that the President's pardon eliminated the felony conviction so your question is a moot point. That said the General was questioned by the FBI by two special agents neither of whom felt the General was anything but completely honest and forthcoming. Anything he said in those interviews would be inadmissible in court though because he asked if he needed to have an attorney present for the interview. They told him he was not a subject of an investigation that it would not be necessary for his attorney to present. He was in fact a subject of investigation because the command level of the FBI was looking for any sort of a fulcrum too against the President. The head honchos at the FBI none of whom were present at the interview had to try to come up with some way of boxing the General in. They accused him of lying to the agents who swore he had not lied. Even if he had lied it would have been the fruit of the poisoned apple and thus inadmissible in court. So the Justice Department sandbagged the General with thousands of documents that needed to be answered within very tight time frames. They knew they had no case but they could interrogate him to bankruptcy by forcing him to defend himself. After losing his home and all of his savings and cutting into his retirement funds. Then when he still wanted to fight broke though he was the FBI threatened to turn his son's world into a pile of crap. So the General fell on his sword to try to protect his son and family. He confessed to having committed a crime he did not commit. Now that confession you might allege was yet another lie but it was the only way to bring to an end this nightmare. How can I say this? I can say it because in many ways I have been there done that and I know there are a whole bunch of ways to torture a man.

On October 28th, 2004 I was the president of a chemical company which I had founded in 1986. On that day we suffered a disastrous accident when a rail car dumped its cargo on our property. That cargo was Coal Tar Light Oil composed of benzene compounds that were fractional distillates from the manufacture of coke for the steel industry. The volatiles are driven off by heating the coal in the absence of sufficient O2 support combustion of the coal. Benzenes are highly useful compounds. Sloss Industries in Birmingham loaded GATX 27385 a rail car owned by Marathon Refining. Marathon had that car delivered to my plant the next morning six red line discrepancies were noted by my men in the yard and it was noted that the car was gassing off through what amounted to a hole in the top of the rail car. That hole was the port for the internal valve and there was supposed to be workings around that valve stem that would have sealed off the outgassing of the Benzene. My men decided to empty the rail car as quickly as possible and then to sent the car to Rescar for maintenance. This was the first time that car had been to my plant and in fact, this load was the first time this particular tank car had been in service for more than two or three years. In the previous 12 months, Rescar billed Marathon for maintenance they said they pulled on that car oddly enough all six of the discrepancies noted on our incoming inspection report were listed as having been fixed by Rescar before they sent that car to Sloss to be loaded. Again all six of those discrepancies were noted by Sloss when the car arrived and normally they could have shopped the car but they needed or they'd have been swimming in CTLO. Although they are not certified to repair some of the discrepancies they say they undertook to keep from having to have the car pulled to the Rescar facility in Birmingham. One of the discrepancies was a faded placard. When the Rail Car arrived at my plant that faded placard was still in place although Sloss had paperwork saying they'd fixed all the discrepancies including that placard and broken brake shoes which they also say they fixed they had a work order and billed Marathon for the repairs they say they made. By the way, when that rail care was spotted on our spur, it had that very same broken brake shoe.

When my men tried to connect the outlet line to the pump to pump the product to the waiting tanker truck. The internal valve was unbeknownst to us rust frozen in the fully open position. The outlet cap twisted almost all the way off as usual with a few dribbles and then it shot off right out of my loader's hands and now 23000 gallons of CTLO were flowing all over the ground in my plant. We had secondary containment but it was overwhelmed. By this time I had just arrived in the office and I initiated our disaster chemical release to the environment plan.

In the aftermath, both the state and federal government came after me. We had a rail car holding isolated product until we could get a better definition as to what to do within. It water in it which is nothing new but most of the trucking was done by commercial third-party truckers. Some however was hauled by Marathon trucks and those drivers. The Marathon Drivers were unionized and hated doing this work as they got paid by the mile and it was only 6 miles from my plant to their CTLO unloading site. The pumps are set to shut off at too low a threshold only a few molecules of H2O will shut it off. The union drivers well disconnect and bring whatever they still had in their tanker back to our plant. The third-party drivers would merely reset the pump and finish unloading. So we had three or four thousand gallons of product that we were waiting on instructions from Marathon as to what to do with it. We were allowed to hold the product for 90 days if it was a waste product but we had no determination that it was a waste product. One of our other jobs was draining off any chemical heels in solvent tankers. We segregated the heels and when we had full tote tanks of a given solvent we shipped it to customers who could use the product.

Somehow the investigators understood we were storing tank bottoms as waste products without having the proper documentation. They measured the distance from where that CTLO tanker holding the isolated product and informed me that it was fifty feet too close to the property line and seventy feet too close to the street. Two major infarctions if the product was ruled by our customer as a waste product and third infraction for storing waste product without documentation and another having it on our plant longer than 90 days. In fact, the product was tested and it was perfectly good. and part of it had been on site for longer than 90 days but it was not a waste product and before it lapsed over 90 days, additional rejected product was put in on top of the product that had been there almost 90 days so that reset the time.

The WVDEP tried to take me to court but failed and they were embarrassed by that failure. The Attorney for the State then went to work for the EPA through the Justice Department. He tried not a single case in two years and was told to find something to justify his existence in the world so he spent two more years grand jury shopping before he found a jury that would indict me. The statute of limitations would toll 28 October 2009. The indictment in federal court was handed down on the 14th of October 2009. 14 days before the limitation would have kicked in. In November Washington DC shipped in a hotshot prosecutor, they would not let the fellow who spent damned near five years to indict me. I was charged with two felonies and five misdemeanors. All of them were dropped but one. The Hotshot prosecutor had to yield on both felonies and four of the five misdemeanors. The one that was retained I wanted to fight but it fell under what is called absolute liability and we did have an accident on our land I could not deny it. I was told that if I plead it would be smack on the wrist and it would be over if on the other hand, I wanted to fight it as well they'd reinstate the dropped charges although they knew they'd lose those as well but in order to get me for making them fight they'd go after my shareholders and my board members property I could not put dad or my sister Jane through that so I plead. By that time I'd been thoroughly tapped out my business was dead my wife had to have a brain tumor removed and I had had my third fourth and fifth heart attacks, I had nothing left with which to fight. That's where General Flynn was when he in essence surrendered. Now you want to go after his retirement SHAME on you.

Response by PO2 Robert Archambault made Dec 31 at 2020 8:15 PM

PO2 Robert Archambault — Thu, 31 Dec 2020 20:15:12 -0500

He should be charged for 'Conduct Unbecoming ', but cannot be tried for a non-military offense - lying to the FBI. He confessed to his crime. He should lose his pension.

Response by TSgt Jon Eckertson made Dec 31 at 2020 10:38 PM

TSgt Jon Eckertson — Thu, 31 Dec 2020 22:38:16 -0500

Except He Was Fully Pardoned; His Conviction Was BS in the First Place! So, Yes, This Decorated Officer deserves his retirement pay and an Apology From the FBI and DOJ!!!

Response by LTC Pete Moore made Jan 1 at 2021 10:47 AM

LTC Pete Moore — Fri, 01 Jan 2021 10:47:50 -0500

I guess I'd like to begin with some perspective.... 1) LTG (R) Flynn is not a convicted felon. The original charge was failure to comply Foreign Agents Registration Act, the FBI agents that he allegedly "lied" to said his actions did not rise to the level that it was prosecutable, their highers that claim it did have been removed from their positions, and the "investigation" was based on known false information as such was determined to be "fruit from the poisoned tree", misbehavior by law enforcement, prosecutors, or court officials negates alleged illegal acts by the accused. As always the situation is more complex than is convenient to those that seek easy answers but bottom line there was/is no crime committed except by FBI and DOJ members that have been punished or are awaiting results from ongoing investigation by the Special Prosecutor. case reference: https://www.cato.org/blog/two-things-nearly-everyone-gets-wrong-about-michael-flynn-case Incidentally, the same activities have been going on with the biden team for the last several weeks as it is normal for any incoming NSA to engage contacts.... yet no incoming NSA has ever been charged. 2) this situation is eerily similar to the impeachment of Mr. Trump in that the allegations of using professional influence for personal gain was known to be false in advance and untenable thus the made up charge of "obstruction of congress" as there was no "high crimes and misdemeanors"... incidentally again we find another conflicting bit of information as Joe Biden brags about using his professional influence for personal gain..... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXA--dj2-CY
I am left with this question; can the author of this discussion be charged on article 2 with conduct unbecoming for promoting slanderous commentary against a senior officer? After all LTG (R) Flynn is a regular Army Officer on the "roles of the retired" NOT retired, he retains his commission. reference: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/688 I would argue "NO" as the offenses by the author were not made during the course of official duty however partisan the author's offense may be and in my opinion regardless of the slanderous nature or however ill informed the author's comments/ may be they fall under "free speech". IF I were LTG (R) Flynn I would sue the DOJ for damages and all the officials involved for official misconduct.... even an old Infantrymen like myself could win that case!

Two Things Nearly Everyone Gets Wrong About the Michael Flynn Case

The Flynn prosecution is agood vehicle for spotlighting abad policy.

Response by SGT Eric Littlejohn made Jan 1 at 2021 12:40 PM

SGT Eric Littlejohn — Fri, 01 Jan 2021 12:40:55 -0500

He was basically hounded into the plea deal by corrupt FBI personnel. Sure he should continue to receive his benefits. Why not? How many of the disgraced FBI agents are receiving benefits? Same for members of Congress who have been caught violating rules, Pelosi comes immediately to mind. Others, California Governor Newsome, and others had a larger dinner meeting in complete violation of his draconian decrees imposed on us lesser mortals. Personally, time only when needed job. y, I am fed up with their "applies to you, not me" attitudes. I would support eliminating the pensions of all members of Congress. As originally envisioned by inspired founding fathers, membership in Congress wasn’t supposed to be a full-time job, rather a part-time position. Time to clean Congress up and restore the lost respect for our government.

Response by SP5 Dennis Dorsey made Jan 1 at 2021 3:07 PM

SP5 Dennis Dorsey — Fri, 01 Jan 2021 15:07:07 -0500

Flynn was fired, first by President Obama, then by Trump. Both for lying and his involvement with Russia. He pleaded guilty to the charges that were presented to his case. Should he be pardoned? No he shouldn't He should lose his rank and have his pension pulled. A pardon does not take away his guilt. He is still guilty and if questioned again, he cannot claim his 5th amendment rights. As of now, he is pressuring trump to use the military to take over and have them control a re-election. Sounds an awful like treason to me.

Response by MCPON Art Freed made Jan 1 at 2021 6:38 PM

MCPON Art Freed — Fri, 01 Jan 2021 18:38:50 -0500

NO! He was framed!

Response by SFC Lee Paquet made Jan 1 at 2021 10:42 PM

SFC Lee Paquet — Fri, 01 Jan 2021 22:42:39 -0500

Michael Flynn was scape-goated by a certain Political establishment. He did NOTHING wrong but was punished anyway. Check the facts!

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 2 at 2021 10:17 AM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 02 Jan 2021 10:17:57 -0500

Double jeopardy would be attached and he was pardoned as well. I believe he could only be court-martalled if it occurred during service but discovered after retirement. Not condoning his transgressions but feel that if his service resulted in an honorable release, his actions after seperation should not affect his retirement.

Response by SGT Philip Klein made Jan 2 at 2021 11:18 AM

SGT Philip Klein — Sat, 02 Jan 2021 11:18:38 -0500

He received a full pardon, legally speaking his record is clean, no justification. But you should be driven into the sea.

Response by 1SG Alexis Ruiz made Jan 2 at 2021 1:08 PM

1SG Alexis Ruiz — Sat, 02 Jan 2021 13:08:51 -0500

I hope everyone that opposes the punishment has also read and understood both the UCMJ and the fact that pleading guilty to a crime is not "Entrapment". He lie. Law enforcement for does of us that support the Law and does that serve did not have to tell him more than what was necessary to conduct an investigation.
Now if this had been anyone else, it would've been of with his head.
Let's not be hypocrites, tha Law is the Law. No special treatment, not get out of jail free card, no zero consequences. If we all have this ability then this would be a nation with out laws. One that the other citizens can just thumbs there noses at law enforcement.
Remember the setting of precedence will apply to all others after him.

Response by TSgt George Austin made Jan 2 at 2021 1:11 PM

TSgt George Austin — Sat, 02 Jan 2021 13:11:43 -0500

If I recall Flynn was PARDONED. That means the charges do not exist. So Obama and his whole crew, Biden and his crime family, Pelosi and her husband that is the smartest investor in the world. ( no way she would give insider info to him ), Swalwell can pork a spy for years, Feinstein can pork a spy for 20 years, Brannon, Clapper, Comey, Rosenstein, THEY can lie under oath to the citizens.
You want to hurt a broken man whom was protecting his son while you vote these democrat criminals and communists back into office over and over. Go speak to an older Russian, Venezuelan, Cuban and hear about the joys of socialism which is PC for communist gulag.

Response by Cpl Doug Lockyer made Jan 2 at 2021 1:52 PM

Cpl Doug Lockyer — Sat, 02 Jan 2021 13:52:10 -0500

Or you can just kiss Biden's ass on your own time.

Response by PO1 Tharin Young made Jan 2 at 2021 4:42 PM

PO1 Tharin Young — Sat, 02 Jan 2021 16:42:14 -0500

He was pardoned. Legally the offense for which he was convicted never happened so a court martial would be pointless.

Response by SMSgt Jeff Kyle made Jan 2 at 2021 7:59 PM

SMSgt Jeff Kyle — Sat, 02 Jan 2021 19:59:33 -0500

If the crime was committed after the service member left the service, leave the retirement alone. If they got caught after retirement for crimes committed while still in uniform, and a court martial takes place, it’s up to the presiding judge.
My personal opinion is leave the guy alone. The entire episode wasn’t necessary and had no bearing on National security.

Response by 1SG Patrick Sims made Jan 2 at 2021 8:14 PM

1SG Patrick Sims — Sat, 02 Jan 2021 20:14:54 -0500

Flynn did his time and deserves his pension. Suggesting he not be ineligible is liberal bullshit.
A bunch of asskissers in the Marines tried to pull the same crap on LtCol. Oliver North.

Response by PVT Alejandro Rivera made Jan 3 at 2021 8:29 AM

PVT Alejandro Rivera — Sun, 03 Jan 2021 08:29:21 -0500

Victim of democrat corruption and deep state, same happened to President Trump and now thieve corrupt organizations have stolen the election and fraudulently will assume power and push forward their socialist agenda.

Response by 1SG Leon Espe made Jan 3 at 2021 10:02 AM

1SG Leon Espe — Sun, 03 Jan 2021 10:02:00 -0500

I am not sure but I think General Flynn was pardoned by President Trump which should l
supersede a court-martial.

Response by COL Andrew Burns made Jan 3 at 2021 10:09 AM

COL Andrew Burns — Sun, 03 Jan 2021 10:09:41 -0500

Well, Gen Flynn serve with honor and distinction in the Army. After that his “transgressions “ were pardoned and therefore in the “grey” area of life. I think after bankrupting his family, he suffer enough????

Response by SPC Jeffrey Frusha made Jan 3 at 2021 1:36 PM

SPC Jeffrey Frusha — Sun, 03 Jan 2021 13:36:17 -0500

... and, yet, he has a full Presidential Pardon from the Commander In Chief...

I would say that the CIC has the supreme authority in this case.

As for benefits, I don't know all of the legalities and cannot say.

Response by TSgt Jeff Milges made Jan 3 at 2021 2:43 PM

TSgt Jeff Milges — Sun, 03 Jan 2021 14:43:01 -0500

I was under the impression he received a Presidential Pardon, which in effect does away with the conviction

Response by SCPO Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 3 at 2021 3:47 PM

SCPO Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 03 Jan 2021 15:47:30 -0500

Political actions should not be addressed by military action. The military strives to be without political leaning. Political actions after service, even constituting a crime should be a seperate event.

Response by SP5 Richard Welch made Jan 3 at 2021 6:13 PM

SP5 Richard Welch — Sun, 03 Jan 2021 18:13:56 -0500

On social media after Flynn's admission of guilt, I have called him a traitor. He violated his oath of service, and that's how he earned his pension. As such, he should be court martialed and lose all pay, benefits and rank. The effects of over 22 years of war are being felt all over the Army currently. We have a general court martialed, yet he kept his pay and benefits. As current and former members of the Army, we must force change, or we will all continue to see the institution we served, ruined. He must be treated like Lt. Calley was, court martialed, and jailed. It's disgusting to me that someone that was a general believes that a politically motivated pardon. For the sole purpose of preventing damaging testimony against a sitting president . The line mist be drawn here and now.

Response by AB Edward Mondini made Jan 3 at 2021 6:34 PM

AB Edward Mondini — Sun, 03 Jan 2021 18:34:45 -0500

Yes, he should receive full military benefits. He was coerced to lie through prosecutorial misconduct. The Department of Justice even admitted as much & dropped its case against Flynn.

Response by SSgt Kevin Hopkins made Jan 3 at 2021 6:54 PM

SSgt Kevin Hopkins — Sun, 03 Jan 2021 18:54:08 -0500

wouldnt this be unbecoming od an officer? a general no less

Response by PO1 Kevin Dougherty made Jan 3 at 2021 10:51 PM

PO1 Kevin Dougherty — Sun, 03 Jan 2021 22:51:49 -0500

Would that be the case that Justice asked the judge to dismiss it was so totally fowled up? It's a moot point now, he has a full presidential pardon.

Response by SSG Ken Gilder made Jan 4 at 2021 1:59 AM

SSG Ken Gilder — Mon, 04 Jan 2021 01:59:59 -0500

I think that because he received a full presidential pardon, he is no longer considered a "convicted felon," and is entitled to all his rights and benefits.

Response by SSG Ken Gilder made Jan 4 at 2021 2:01 AM

SSG Ken Gilder — Mon, 04 Jan 2021 02:01:26 -0500

Since he has received a full pardon, whether you like it or not, he is entitled to his benefits.

Response by SP6 Joseph Siegel made Jan 4 at 2021 6:39 AM

SP6 Joseph Siegel — Mon, 04 Jan 2021 06:39:26 -0500

There as so much cracked about what was done to General Flynn that I do not think he would have been tried in any court. It was a political hit.

Response by SPC William Rogers made Jan 4 at 2021 10:41 AM

SPC William Rogers — Mon, 04 Jan 2021 10:41:30 -0500

Convinced for what? Lying to the FBI when even the FBI said it wasn't a lie??? Vicious man. He was even pardoned to somewhat correct the injustice done to him and his family.

Response by SPC William Rogers made Jan 4 at 2021 10:43 AM

SPC William Rogers — Mon, 04 Jan 2021 10:43:45 -0500

General Flynn did nothing wrong.

Response by SGT Randall Smith made Jan 4 at 2021 1:08 PM

SGT Randall Smith — Mon, 04 Jan 2021 13:08:16 -0500

He was set up and sandbagged. The FBI knew what they were doing, playing cover their asses. They then threaten his son. But he was a general so he should have known he needed to have a lawyer present during all this.

Response by PO2 Joseph Chantiny made Jan 4 at 2021 3:16 PM

PO2 Joseph Chantiny — Mon, 04 Jan 2021 15:16:43 -0500

To conduct the court martial, Gen. Flynn has to be reinstated.

Response by SFC Chuck Martinez made Jan 4 at 2021 4:51 PM

SFC Chuck Martinez — Mon, 04 Jan 2021 16:51:42 -0500

To this day General Michael Flynn is still getting his military pension, it never stopped. However, the US Supreme court can court-marshal retiree for crimes committed after service. But since the President of the United States pardon him, the supreme court can't touch him. I believe that he was set up buy then, US Attorney, James B. Comey in order to get to Trump! The conspiracy theory!!

Response by CPO Jeffrey Bohemier made Jan 4 at 2021 5:10 PM

CPO Jeffrey Bohemier — Mon, 04 Jan 2021 17:10:40 -0500

HELL NO!!! Nor should he be in the White House giving advice to the President. ESPECIALLY AFTER HEARING WHAT HE HAD TO SAY. He wants Trump to declare Martial Law and use our military to surprises and enforce martial law while he retains the Presidency. THAT’S CALLED A DICTATORSHIP. And as the United States Constitution is the agreement between the people living in this country and the government, and the power of the government is derived from the Constitution, if Trump tried to enact such a plan, I would no longer be subjected to any laws in our nation, as that agreement would become nullified. Thus, I would then arm myself as per the PRIMARY PURPOSE OF THE SECOND AMENDMENT (to protect against a tyrannical government), deliberately VIOLATE any attempt at enforcement of martial law, and work with millions of others to enforce the Oath I took to protect our Constitution. I would hope that our military members would REFUSE SUCH AN ORDER as it would be a direct violation of the oath we all took. To hear that Michael Flynn made such comments makes me sick. I’m sick of watching as Republicans sit there trying to placate the outrageous ego of a president inflicted with narcissistic personality disorder. I cannot stand by as a corrupt would be dictator used our military to seize power in a coup, ESPECIALLY when there’s so many deceased military members in our national cemeteries made the ultimate sacrifice and gave their lives to protect freedoms our country has always stood for.

Response by CPO Jeffrey Bohemier made Jan 4 at 2021 5:27 PM

CPO Jeffrey Bohemier — Mon, 04 Jan 2021 17:27:37 -0500

Not exactly true. When you retire you are in the inactive reserves for 10 years. The UCMJ still applies. Once you complete those 10 years, you become a full fledged civilian, no longer subject to being recalled regardless of the reason. Your retirement becomes just that, retirement. Prior to that it’s seen as a retainer. Then the UCMJ no longer applies. However, there’s still plenty of civilian laws that most certainly do, often with consequences that are even more severe. Regardless, it’s STILL double jeopardy to be charged by both the military and civilian laws for the same offence. This is an issue that came up in the Navy back in the mid 90’s as many Commanding Officers were punishing their sailors using the same charges they had by the civilian authorities. The Navy put a stop to it because it was double jeopardy.

Response by CPL Robert Crandall made Jan 4 at 2021 5:46 PM

CPL Robert Crandall — Mon, 04 Jan 2021 17:46:53 -0500

Lt. General Michael Flynn was targeted in a fake investigation by the FBI. They knew full well that Lt. general Flynn had not done anything wrong but Obama wanted him silenced. The only reason that he pleaded guilty was because the federal prosecutors (POS) that they are threatened to go after his son if he did not comply with their demands. If the military takes punitive action against him then they all need to be fired on the spot.

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 4 at 2021 9:40 PM

MSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 04 Jan 2021 21:40:02 -0500

No he should not receive benefits and yes, he should be court-martialed.

Response by Col Tri Trinh made Jan 5 at 2021 2:12 AM

Col Tri Trinh — Tue, 05 Jan 2021 02:12:16 -0500

There’s an interesting suggestion out there on how to deal with Flynn.
Google: Retired US Army Colonel Lawrence Wilkerson says Michael Flynn should be recalled to active duty so he can be court-martialed.

Response by LTC Joe Anderson made Jan 5 at 2021 9:36 AM

LTC Joe Anderson — Tue, 05 Jan 2021 09:36:19 -0500

For those thinking the Army or any other agency will pick up this case now that the DOJ has dropped the case and Judge Sullivan dismissed it. They can't NO federal agency can: Trump's pardon of Michael Flynn; https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/30/politics/flynn-pardon-read-file/index.html

READ: Trump's pardon of Michael Flynn

The Justice Department on Monday released a copy of President Donald Trump's pardon last week of former national security adviser Michael Flynn.

Response by LTC Joe Anderson made Jan 5 at 2021 9:41 AM

LTC Joe Anderson — Tue, 05 Jan 2021 09:41:55 -0500

SSGT Kevin Hopkins made an uniformed statement on here; If Flynn's charges were dismissed or he was innocent then there wouldn't be a need for a pardon. As if it didn't happen. Which got me thinking others may feel the same way. Here's cited proof For him and them, Fun Fact: At 2:14 PM ET, Tue December 8, 2020, Judge Emmet Sullivan of the DC District Court dismissed Michael Flynn's criminal case as moot. Followed by an OVERLY wordy 43 page explanation. No conviction. Case dismissed.

https://www.law.com/nationallawjournal/2020/12/08/citing-trump-pardon-federal-judge-dismisses-case-against-michael-flynn/?slreturn= [login to see] 3852

Citing Trump Pardon, Federal Judge Dismisses Case Against Michael Flynn | National Law Journal

Because the law recognizes the president’s political power to pardon, the appropriate course is to dismiss this case as moot, U.S. District Judge Emmet Sullivan wrote.

Response by PVT Rocky Susshine made Jan 5 at 2021 12:47 PM

PVT Rocky Susshine — Tue, 05 Jan 2021 12:47:15 -0500

No Crime. No Harm. General Flynn should receive a promotion and total 100% Retirement .

Response by PVT Rocky Susshine made Jan 5 at 2021 12:48 PM

PVT Rocky Susshine — Tue, 05 Jan 2021 12:48:20 -0500

General Flynn must receive 100% retirement benefits according to his time of retirement.

Response by CSM Charles Pfarr made Jan 5 at 2021 2:23 PM

CSM Charles Pfarr — Tue, 05 Jan 2021 14:23:24 -0500

There are over 30 convicted felons in Congress and they will receive there retirement pay. What does one have to do with the other.

Response by Amn Joseph H. made Jan 5 at 2021 9:42 PM

Amn Joseph H. — Tue, 05 Jan 2021 21:42:18 -0500

If an enlisted guy had been caught cozy with the Russians or Chinese thire asses would have been history. But officers are always given special treatment, they are the political wing of our military. Having said that this guy really should be striped of everything as an example to the rest of his class. Exactly like the recently sent homegrown traitor Pollard to Orangeheads buddy Netanyahu should not be rewarded but punished for the mere appearance of treason. To many war mongering contractor bought ones for my comfort or Americas security.

Response by MSG Carl Clark made Jan 7 at 2021 6:31 AM

MSG Carl Clark — Thu, 07 Jan 2021 06:31:34 -0500

https://link.theepochtimes.com/mkt_app/i-now-better-understand-the-good-german_3645909.html

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Response by SGT Thomas Magnum made Jan 7 at 2021 10:10 AM

SGT Thomas Magnum — Thu, 07 Jan 2021 10:10:19 -0500

I believe he was pardoned. That should answer the question.

Response by Lt Col Warren Domke made Jan 7 at 2021 11:42 AM

Lt Col Warren Domke — Thu, 07 Jan 2021 11:42:44 -0500

I think this is a legal matter that bears investigation before a decision can be made. General Flynn was not acting in a military capacity at the time of the alleged offenses and his alleged civil offenses have been pardoned by President Trump, appropriately or inappropriately--which is a separate issue. Like most retired officers, including myself, General Flynn is subject to recall in the event of a national emergency in which his (our) services may be required. I would probably not want him back on active duty, given the blemishes on his record, but that is not my decision. I defer to the military justice system. Thank you for this question.

Response by PFC Lance Martinez made Jan 7 at 2021 12:03 PM

PFC Lance Martinez — Thu, 07 Jan 2021 12:03:07 -0500

Michael Flynn still served his country for many years. To live with the stigma of felon alone is a lifetime punishment beyond his sentence. I feel Michael Flynn should receive all the benefits of a serviceman who earned his retirement benefits.

Response by LTC David Howard made Jan 7 at 2021 12:23 PM

LTC David Howard — Thu, 07 Jan 2021 12:23:20 -0500

The arrest and conviction of Gen. Flynn was purely political and a disgrace to the United States. Not one of us here would likely continue to refuse to confess to a crime if by doing so we knew that one of our children would be imprisoned. He pled guilty to avoid an even worse situation for his family. His alleged crime was that he lied to the FBI, using casual statements he made during an informal conversation. It was entrapment of the worst kind. Fortunately he was totally vindicated by the President's pardon. Without a doubt he is entitled to keep the benefits he so admirably earned during his long years of exemplary service.

Response by LTC Joe Anderson made Jan 7 at 2021 12:39 PM

LTC Joe Anderson — Thu, 07 Jan 2021 12:39:01 -0500

This is no longer relevant with Flynn since his case is now over (Dismissed and Pardoned (He was never convicted)). However to answer the original question posted; many on here are under the impression one loses their pension and benefits when convicted of a crime... Just so you/they know: Generally, Being convicted of a crime almost never jeopardizes a federal pension – the rare exception to this rule are charges relating to criminal disloyalty to the United States: espionage, treason, sabotage, etc.

VA Disability Compensation: Your monthly payment will be reduced beginning with the 61st day of your imprisonment for a felony. If your disability payment before you went to prison was based on a rating of 20% disabled or higher your new payment will be based on the 10% disability rating. If you were receiving disability at the 10% disability rate your new payment will be cut in half.

Note: If you are released from incarceration - participated in a work release or half-way house program, paroled, and completed sentence, your compensation payments will not be reduced.

Retired personnel can be recalled to serve active duty if needed. If they fall under Category I: Nondisabled military retirees under the age of 60 who have been retired less than five years. This category is disposed to be recalled during times of war, national emergency, or “needs of the service”. IF the retiree isn't in the retired reserve, has been retried for over 5 years, is over 60, or retired under Tittle 32, they are not subject to recall or the UCMJ. Our service isn't for life. Thus neither is the Jurisdiction of the UCMJ.

Using Flynn as an example even if his case had not been dismissed, the services would not recall him or any service member back to exercise UCMJ for these charges. Additionally he was not a member of the Retired Reserve, he had been retired more than five (5) years at the time of his plea then plea withdrawal, and was over sixty (60). There for even if he had been convicted he was not subject to recall or UCMJ. Nor would he have lost his pension or benefits.

https://www.military.com/benefits/veteran-benefits/incarcerated-veterans.html

Incarcerated Veterans

The following is a summary of how imprisonment affects veterans benefits.

Response by LTC Charles "Pappy" Patchin made Jan 7 at 2021 1:03 PM

LTC Charles "Pappy" Patchin — Thu, 07 Jan 2021 13:03:50 -0500

Yes. His "conviction" was the result of government lies and political reprisal to get to a sitting president. He has now been pardoned and his rights restored.

Response by MSG Greg Proctor made Jan 7 at 2021 2:12 PM

MSG Greg Proctor — Thu, 07 Jan 2021 14:12:35 -0500

Yes he should receive his benefits, he was pardoned and he is no longer a convicted felon. He served honorably and he is not less worthy than anyone else.

Response by PO2 . Lancaster made Jan 7 at 2021 3:22 PM

PO2 . Lancaster — Thu, 07 Jan 2021 15:22:03 -0500

He isn't a convicted felon - he was pardoned which means the conviction is void.

Response by PO2 . Lancaster made Jan 7 at 2021 3:23 PM

PO2 . Lancaster — Thu, 07 Jan 2021 15:23:11 -0500

He isn't a convicted felon. He was granted a full pardon, which means the felony conviction is voided. And because he was pardoned for crimes against the US, the UCMJ doesn't apply here. It's over.

Response by Cpl Geoffrey Mullin made Jan 7 at 2021 3:46 PM

Cpl Geoffrey Mullin — Thu, 07 Jan 2021 15:46:52 -0500

Yes to retirement benefits. No to court martial. General Flynn made a valuable contribution to the Army over many years. He should get the retirement benefits he earned. The criminal investigation had questionable political actions and had nothing to do with his military career. Show the man some honor!

Response by 1SG Don Jones made Jan 7 at 2021 3:57 PM

1SG Don Jones — Thu, 07 Jan 2021 15:57:36 -0500

he's not a convicted felon

Response by SSgt Harvey Lieberman made Jan 7 at 2021 6:27 PM

SSgt Harvey Lieberman — Thu, 07 Jan 2021 18:27:21 -0500

Flynn was NOT court-martialed, plus he was pardoned.

Response by SSgt Harvey Lieberman made Jan 7 at 2021 6:28 PM

SSgt Harvey Lieberman — Thu, 07 Jan 2021 18:28:25 -0500

Flynn was NOT court-martialed plus he was pardoned.

Response by SSgt Dan Burnett made Jan 7 at 2021 9:47 PM

SSgt Dan Burnett — Thu, 07 Jan 2021 21:47:26 -0500

No benefits

Response by 2LT Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 7 at 2021 10:06 PM

2LT Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 07 Jan 2021 22:06:54 -0500

General Michael Flynn was pardoned. Please don’t bring your poisonous political views to this site. Try FB or Insta, they have blocked the CIC’s accounts, you might find your safe space there...

Response by 1LT Richard White made Jan 7 at 2021 10:37 PM

1LT Richard White — Thu, 07 Jan 2021 22:37:09 -0500

Whatever the legal answer, Michael Flynn is a disgrace. Suggesting that "military capabilities" be used to "rerun the election" is an assault on democracy.

Response by LCpl Ben Pacheco made Jan 7 at 2021 11:15 PM

LCpl Ben Pacheco — Thu, 07 Jan 2021 23:15:28 -0500

Hell no! charge pelosi and schulmer and gang

Response by SN John Nolte made Jan 8 at 2021 9:43 PM

SN John Nolte — Fri, 08 Jan 2021 21:43:21 -0500

The retired General Flynn was pardoned by President Trump. So I believe that pardon should extend to the UCMJ, and he should receive his full amount of benefits...and not be court-martialed.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 9 at 2021 3:54 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 09 Jan 2021 15:54:42 -0500

Gen Flynn was never convicted. He was a victim of entrapment(DOJ confirmed this) and was pardoned because a politically motivated judge would not allow the case to be dismissed. Despite the DOJ dropping charges. Therefore, he is not subject to any further ucmj actions regarding this matter.

Response by PO1 Michael Sarkisian made Jan 9 at 2021 5:17 PM

PO1 Michael Sarkisian — Sat, 09 Jan 2021 17:17:51 -0500

Pull all his benefits and charge him with Sedition under the UCMJ

Response by SSgt Gerald Davis Jr made Jan 9 at 2021 8:31 PM

SSgt Gerald Davis Jr — Sat, 09 Jan 2021 20:31:25 -0500

Was he convicted under the UCMJ?

Response by Sgt Sheldon Best made Jan 9 at 2021 9:26 PM

Sgt Sheldon Best — Sat, 09 Jan 2021 21:26:05 -0500

Perhaps you did not get the memo, but the Mueller investigation was a $30mil smoke and mirror routine executed for political reasons, law enforcement was never the goal.

Response by SSG Harry Herres made Jan 10 at 2021 6:55 PM

SSG Harry Herres — Sun, 10 Jan 2021 18:55:37 -0500

If it had been me would get a pardon? Would I get my bennies? This man disgraced his rank, the uniform, the military, America. He has NO rights for anything but his new rank, traitor!

Response by SPC Chris Ison made Jan 11 at 2021 12:05 PM

SPC Chris Ison — Mon, 11 Jan 2021 12:05:57 -0500

He was pardoned. As such the crime never happened.

Response by SSG Rene Ortiz made Jan 13 at 2021 6:30 AM

SSG Rene Ortiz — Wed, 13 Jan 2021 06:30:40 -0500

He’s a pos

Response by GySgt Eddie Daffern made Jan 19 at 2021 1:57 AM

GySgt Eddie Daffern — Tue, 19 Jan 2021 01:57:51 -0500

First, the FBI lied to start the investigation. Secondly, it was part of the ruse to get President Trump on Russian Collusion. Thirdly, Gen Flynn was a civilian when this occurred and President Trump has pardoned him. The real question should be; “should all the FBI agents involved with this travesty be indicted?”

Response by LTC Joe Anderson made Jan 21 at 2021 9:55 AM

LTC Joe Anderson — Thu, 21 Jan 2021 09:55:49 -0500

Flynn's latest Interview. His guilt or innocence is no longer up for debate since he's been pardons. But if watch the full interview neutrally with out preconceptions of his innocence or guilt you'll get a good feel for the man, come away with his message, and point of view. Then you can make up your mind from there.
Part I:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOcFsMKBSak
Part II:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BJIWtjA4jA

Exclusive: Gen. Flynn on the Last 4 Years: ‘The American People Saved Me’ | Pt 1

In this EXCLUSIVE interview, the first of two parts, we hear from Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn about his experience these last four years. We discuss what attracte...

Response by SSG Omar Ruiz-Canales made Jan 23 at 2021 8:14 AM

SSG Omar Ruiz-Canales — Sat, 23 Jan 2021 08:14:11 -0500

Although he's a douchebag, his Pension should stay safe to the point he served Honorably as the military law states..

Response by SGT Keith Smith made Jan 29 at 2021 11:55 AM

SGT Keith Smith — Fri, 29 Jan 2021 11:55:24 -0500

First he can not be tried again for the same crime. Since he has been convicted in a civilian court he can not be tried again in a military court. That said administrative action can be taken. Given his rank I believe it would require a congressional committee. What congress giveth congress can take away. Doing so is very rarely done. Most times the army just lets the civilian courts handle the matter.

Response by CWO3 Warren Gaudreau made Jan 29 at 2021 2:28 PM

CWO3 Warren Gaudreau — Fri, 29 Jan 2021 14:28:52 -0500

Flynn was facing legal costs he couldn't pay. Also, FBI was threatening to bury his son. He plead guilty to save his family. Those involved in the FBI should face justice, not Flynn.

Response by Maj Neal Jackman made Feb 3 at 2021 6:44 PM

Maj Neal Jackman — Wed, 03 Feb 2021 18:44:06 -0500

That is correct, and it was not a military court who railroaded him. I say yes to the benefits.

Response by PO3 Jerome Wilson made Feb 10 at 2021 12:50 AM

PO3 Jerome Wilson — Wed, 10 Feb 2021 00:50:52 -0500

Yes, because whatever we do in the civilian world is punishable by the military under the UCMJ.

Response by LTC Marc King made Feb 14 at 2021 1:27 PM

LTC Marc King — Sun, 14 Feb 2021 13:27:27 -0500

Time to move on.... oh wait he is not completely destroyed...

Response by SrA Lawrence Baiocco made Feb 14 at 2021 2:48 PM

SrA Lawrence Baiocco — Sun, 14 Feb 2021 14:48:34 -0500

It’s a disgrace what they did to General Flynn.

Response by 1st Lt Clayton Williamson made Feb 16 at 2021 7:39 AM

1st Lt Clayton Williamson — Tue, 16 Feb 2021 07:39:25 -0500

He's not a convicted felon. The DoJ dropped the case. Stop being silly.

Response by PO3 Michael Wiedenhoeft-Wilder made Feb 18 at 2021 4:19 PM

PO3 Michael Wiedenhoeft-Wilder — Thu, 18 Feb 2021 16:19:16 -0500

He should go to jail for his crimes. A general should know better than to do the things he’s done. I say throw the book at him.

Response by Sgt Steven M. made Feb 27 at 2021 12:16 PM

Sgt Steven M. — Sat, 27 Feb 2021 12:16:51 -0500

Folks, I went through a bunch of your responses to this question, and some of your responses don't make sense. First, when you sign your contract, there is no expiration included. Second, you give up a number of constitutional rights, to include the right to remain silent, and the right to due process. I suspect Gen. Flynn got a sweetheart deal for confessing, to include no jail, and retention of all his retirement benefits. We may never know. I'm surprised none of the responses I read, to include senior field grade officers and senior Staff NCOs, didn't raise these issues. But, I only read a couple hundred responses, too.
Steven G. Marrs, Sgt., USMC (many years ago.

Response by SFC Randy Hellenbrand made Mar 3 at 2021 2:42 PM

SFC Randy Hellenbrand — Wed, 03 Mar 2021 14:42:16 -0500

Court Martial and Leavenworth for life!!

Response by SSG Edward Tilton made Mar 4 at 2021 1:45 PM

SSG Edward Tilton — Thu, 04 Mar 2021 13:45:26 -0500

He should be reduced to E-1, and his pension taken. He plead guilty to crimes that constituted Treason. For that matter so did Ollie North. Loyalty Oaths aren’t worth much

Response by 1SG Harold Piet made Mar 5 at 2021 2:48 PM

1SG Harold Piet — Fri, 05 Mar 2021 14:48:57 -0500

Simple, He earned his retirement benefits and should keep them.

Response by CPL Jeffrey Solomon made Mar 11 at 2021 1:20 AM

CPL Jeffrey Solomon — Thu, 11 Mar 2021 01:20:00 -0500

Pay the man.

Response by TSgt Richard Huth Sr. made Mar 11 at 2021 9:06 AM

TSgt Richard Huth Sr. — Thu, 11 Mar 2021 09:06:40 -0500

Time for you all to update this subject!! He has a full pardon! Get over it!@

Response by CPO Robert Riegle made Mar 11 at 2021 9:27 AM

CPO Robert Riegle — Thu, 11 Mar 2021 09:27:58 -0500

Actually, he is not a convicted felon. Do your research.

Response by SPC Jerry McEntire made Mar 11 at 2021 9:48 AM

SPC Jerry McEntire — Thu, 11 Mar 2021 09:48:53 -0500

He done the work for his retirement, leave it alone.

Response by LTC Luis Utreras made Mar 11 at 2021 10:34 PM

LTC Luis Utreras — Thu, 11 Mar 2021 22:34:55 -0500

The General was retired with a dd-214 under honorable conditions. Unless you go to jail, and the government provides all the meals and lodging, and other basic services, you do not have the right to get your retirement check. He is out of the military; then, he does not fall under the UCMJ unless violations were committed while on active duty.

Response by SFC Anthony Ingram made Mar 11 at 2021 10:45 PM

SFC Anthony Ingram — Thu, 11 Mar 2021 22:45:12 -0500

There was never a final adjudication of the case. Then he was pardoned, which eliminated all repercussions of any crime. So, he is not a convicted felon.

Response by SFC Eugene Helstrom made Mar 11 at 2021 11:30 PM

SFC Eugene Helstrom — Thu, 11 Mar 2021 23:30:20 -0500

Anyone one person that was involved in the illegitimate attack and prosecution of General Flynn should for all intents and purposes, be placed in prison, in the general public areas for minimum of 20 years. What happened to this patriot was absolutely obscene. The only reason they went after General Flynn was because he believed in streamlining the idiots in are so called 17 intelligence agencies. He actually knows where the corrupt politicians and those that serve them buried the bodies. He was untouchable with a military record that I would have been proud of if I only did half of what that Soldier did! Normally, for all that served with me, that my opinion of officers fell just about 6 feet below a trainee, but for only an extreme few. General Flynn, from what I have read about his service, I would have taken a bullet for him. God bless you Sir, if the world had just a few more of you, it would truly be better for it!

Response by SGT Thomas Seward made Mar 12 at 2021 12:00 AM

SGT Thomas Seward — Fri, 12 Mar 2021 00:00:25 -0500

He was never convicted. End of discussion.

Response by LCDR John Mark Nickelson made Mar 12 at 2021 11:49 AM

LCDR John Mark Nickelson — Fri, 12 Mar 2021 11:49:32 -0500

Not any sort of a convicted felon. They coerced a confession out of him. Should be made whole for all his legal expenses, and his retirement untouched.

Response by LCDR John Mark Nickelson made Mar 12 at 2021 11:51 AM

LCDR John Mark Nickelson — Fri, 12 Mar 2021 11:51:09 -0500

No sort of a convicted felon. They coerced a confession out of him, and the felons were on the other side of the table. DoJ should make him whole for all his legal fees, and prosecute the fools who burned him.

Response by SFC Matt Creath made Mar 13 at 2021 6:24 AM

SFC Matt Creath — Sat, 13 Mar 2021 06:24:06 -0500

WHO IS THE MORON WHO EVEN POSED THIS QUESTION? Whoever you are, you are in the wrong line of work. You need a job that doesn't allow you to ask stupid, biased questions such as this.

Response by SFC Matt Creath made Mar 13 at 2021 6:27 AM

SFC Matt Creath — Sat, 13 Mar 2021 06:27:07 -0500

WHO IS THE MORON WHO CAME UP WITH THIS QUESTION? Whoever you are, you need to be in a different line of work, specifically one that does not allow you to ask stupid, biased questions such as this. And looking at some of the answers here, it is obvious that a lot of people have NO IDEA of who General Flynn is. He IS a Warrior and a Patriot.

Response by SN Charles Waters made Mar 13 at 2021 8:58 AM

SN Charles Waters — Sat, 13 Mar 2021 08:58:41 -0500

There was no crime, and the DOJ dropped charges. GFY on the convicted felon B.S..

Response by PFC David Cheney made Mar 13 at 2021 10:06 AM

PFC David Cheney — Sat, 13 Mar 2021 10:06:31 -0500

Standfast General you stand for America American's stand for you hoorah Semper Fi do or die Sir

Response by SN Robbie Malone made Mar 13 at 2021 10:29 AM

SN Robbie Malone — Sat, 13 Mar 2021 10:29:19 -0500

Well, maybe he can get the benefits with reduced pay, I've seen that before. I mean he has worked for it all this time until he was busted for doing what he did. I'm just saying.

Response by CSM Thomas McGarry made Mar 13 at 2021 11:14 AM

CSM Thomas McGarry — Sat, 13 Mar 2021 11:14:55 -0500

I suppose if you were going to revoke Gen. Flynn's military benefits than you would also need to do the same thing to retire Marine General Cartwright who was pardoned by Pres. Obama for.......You guessed it-lying to the FBI!!!!

Response by Lance M. Woods made Mar 13 at 2021 12:36 PM

Lance M. Woods — Sat, 13 Mar 2021 12:36:22 -0500

There is no legal precedent to remove his rank and pension. Moreover, he was pardoned by President Trump which makes this a moot question.

Response by PFC Martin Potashner made Mar 13 at 2021 4:03 PM

PFC Martin Potashner — Sat, 13 Mar 2021 16:03:05 -0500

What did he do wrong I don't believe in the FBI anymore .

Response by LTC Paul Dulchinos made Mar 14 at 2021 8:04 AM

LTC Paul Dulchinos — Sun, 14 Mar 2021 08:04:50 -0400

He was not guilty of any wrong doing the first time. The original report from the FBI interview said that they felt Flynn hadn't lied. The entire fiasco was a fraudulent and Flynn was a victim of a politically motivated purgery trap. In the end, if purgery was committed, Flynn lied about a non-crime. The FBI and the past administration that perpetrated this witchhunt are the true criminals and should be prosecuted for violating Flynn's civil rights.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 14 at 2021 12:27 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 14 Mar 2021 12:27:13 -0400

I'm pretty sure he was acquitted.

Response by MSgt Dale Westeren made Mar 14 at 2021 3:26 PM

MSgt Dale Westeren — Sun, 14 Mar 2021 15:26:05 -0400

O,k but my retired pay comes from the VA. They don't use the UCMJ.

Response by James Miller made Mar 14 at 2021 9:49 PM

James Miller — Sun, 14 Mar 2021 21:49:42 -0400

First off he was never convicted and the charges were dropped.

Response by SGT Kenneth Stelly made Mar 15 at 2021 5:31 AM

SGT Kenneth Stelly — Mon, 15 Mar 2021 05:31:00 -0400

Of course the General should and is receiving his retirement with benefits. No, he cannot be court-martialed. And was he not pardoned by the Commander in Chief, the highest ranking member in the Armed Services? Yes he was, he is therefore not a convicted felon.... so, why the questions?

Response by 1SG Dennis McMahon made Mar 15 at 2021 8:23 AM

1SG Dennis McMahon — Mon, 15 Mar 2021 08:23:10 -0400

He should definitely be charged, his rank and benefits removed! Being a Lead Insurrectionist has its costs!

Response by 1SG Dennis McMahon made Mar 15 at 2021 8:24 AM

1SG Dennis McMahon — Mon, 15 Mar 2021 08:24:19 -0400

He should be court-martialed, stripped of his "rank" and benefits! Being a LEAD Insurrectionist on January 6, 2021 has costs,...... And paybacks you traitor!!

Response by SP5 James Slark made Mar 15 at 2021 12:06 PM

SP5 James Slark — Mon, 15 Mar 2021 12:06:09 -0400

If you are at all familiar with the circumstances, General Flynn's "lies" were set up where he was put in a position of not being able to answer an interogation of any kind without being railroaded. The General served this country honorably for many years, and "took one for the team", he lost everything.

Response by PO3 Kenneth Suvanto made Mar 15 at 2021 1:34 PM

PO3 Kenneth Suvanto — Mon, 15 Mar 2021 13:34:28 -0400

We don't know for sure whether Michael Flynn deliberately lied to the FBI. The government could never have won had it played by the rules. He had been duped by FBI agents and didn't realize it was a formal interview. Flynn did not properly report funds he received from a 2015 speech in Russia and lobbying work his firm did for Turkey? He shouldn't court martial someone for a POLITICAL SCAM! No Flynn should not be court martialed and he should get his stupid retirement pay! Sincerely, Ken

Response by MSgt Charles OBanion made Mar 15 at 2021 2:49 PM

MSgt Charles OBanion — Mon, 15 Mar 2021 14:49:32 -0400

I remembering reading something some time ago that said, based on a court case brought on by a convicted military retiree, the military could not withold your retirement pay just because you were in prison. Anyone have any clearer knowledge of this? I'm sure there are probably differences between militray and civilian prison sentences that may apply.

Response by SCPO Frank Alvar made Mar 15 at 2021 5:39 PM

SCPO Frank Alvar — Mon, 15 Mar 2021 17:39:25 -0400

Doesn't art 2 of the UCMJ address this?

Response by MSG William Wold made Mar 15 at 2021 6:34 PM

MSG William Wold — Mon, 15 Mar 2021 18:34:37 -0400

So? He was pardoned. Period. Anyone who doubts that is a fool

Response by PO1 David Hayes made Mar 15 at 2021 6:37 PM

PO1 David Hayes — Mon, 15 Mar 2021 18:37:13 -0400

Gen. Flynn should not only receive his retirement, he should be given an apology for the lies and deceit that was bestowed upon him by the fraudulent Steel report and the dishonest FBI agents that caused him to be falsely convicted. Gen Flynn only pleaded guilty to prevent his son from being harassed by the dishonest FBI agents involved.

Response by Cpl James Pedersen made Mar 16 at 2021 8:21 AM

Cpl James Pedersen — Tue, 16 Mar 2021 08:21:35 -0400

General Flynn did nothing wrong

Response by SGT Donald Howard made Mar 16 at 2021 9:09 AM

SGT Donald Howard — Tue, 16 Mar 2021 09:09:27 -0400

Number one, Gen. Flynn was not convicted because the DOJ decided to not prosecute. Number two, evidence that came to light coming from e-mails and written reports by the agents who interviewed Flynn to their superiors before the interview asking them "What is the goal? just an interview or getting setting a trap to claim he lied in order to remove him from his appointment?" After ward, in written statements in their reports after questioning Flynn, the FBI interviewers expressed their opininon that Flynn never acted evasive or deceptive during their interview. To answer the question regarding his benefits and privileges he is entitled to as a retired member of the armed service, he should continue to receive all retirement pay and benefits he is entitled to. Gen. Flynn is an honorable, patriotic, decorated combat veteran and loyal American who endured a deliberate and criminal assault upon his reputation, livelyhood, his family and suffered great financial hardship and stress, engineered by FBI officials, DOJ officials with the full knowledge and approval of the administration who already held a dislike for him and the new president he would be working for, in order to advance a narrative that the new administration had acted with Russian help to steal the election. It is an outrage that a man like Gen. Flynn suffered such an injustice at the hands of people who have proven in their own words through texts and emails uncoverd, to be cowardly, treasonous and dishonorable. What is even more aggregious is that not one of them have been indicted for their criminal behavior and actions.

Response by CW5 Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 16 at 2021 10:12 AM

CW5 Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 16 Mar 2021 10:12:48 -0400

I don't believe Gen Flynn was ever convicted. I thought his case was thrown out due to the admission that the FBI didn't provide all of the evidence.

Response by CPL Tom Outman made Mar 16 at 2021 11:26 AM

CPL Tom Outman — Tue, 16 Mar 2021 11:26:18 -0400

He was done dirty at the highest level by the highest level. THEY should lose their life's work, not him.

Response by SFC Kenneth Lord made Mar 16 at 2021 11:41 AM

SFC Kenneth Lord — Tue, 16 Mar 2021 11:41:26 -0400

Yes on the retirement check and NO on the Courts Martial !

Response by Lt Col Raymond Swenson made Mar 16 at 2021 11:52 AM

Lt Col Raymond Swenson — Tue, 16 Mar 2021 11:52:10 -0400

The military does not have jurisdiction over offenses with no military connection. And it would violate the constitutional ban on twice prosecuting a defendant for the same offense. Finally, the Department of Justice moved to dismiss the case because it was brought improperly in the first case. Flynn is being po ersecuted by the trial judge who refused to obey the Court of Appeals direction to dismiss the case. The judge violated the law and the Constitutipn and deserves to be impeached for his lawlessness.

Response by MSG Tony Reilly made Mar 16 at 2021 2:23 PM

MSG Tony Reilly — Tue, 16 Mar 2021 14:23:48 -0400

If you commit any actual crime tes, if your set up by corrupt FBI agents you should get extra pay

Response by SFC Howard Holmes made Mar 16 at 2021 4:02 PM

SFC Howard Holmes — Tue, 16 Mar 2021 16:02:49 -0400

Flynn was also fully pardoned, so it's as if the crime never happened. So even if he lost his retirement, etc., it would have to be reinstated. Are you certain that he was receiving retirement while he was in prison? If convicted of a felony, you are supposed to lose your retirement benefits. There is so much more to it than this, but I am getting sick and tired of the military becoming such a political animal, and a flipping social experiment. Unfortunately, so many Sr. (Lt. Col. Vindemann (sp?)) and retired Sr. officers are keeping the military in the middle of the politics. Shame on them. The military is there for no other reason but to defend our country and carry out missions necessary to defend us and our interests. Politics is/are a personal belief system, and that's why you aren't supposed to be in uniform at political rallies - well except for the two soldiers that were in the commercials for the Hawaiian Congress person.

Response by Edward Briggs made Mar 16 at 2021 6:07 PM

Edward Briggs — Tue, 16 Mar 2021 18:07:33 -0400

False charges by FBI, proven in court, DOJ dropped case & corrupt Judge refused to comply with DOJ request.

Response by SGT Ronald "Shorty" Napier made Mar 17 at 2021 6:44 PM

SGT Ronald "Shorty" Napier — Wed, 17 Mar 2021 18:44:13 -0400

That rule should be removed. If he served honorably and retired, he earned his pension. END of story.

Response by SSG Brian G. made Mar 18 at 2021 5:40 PM

SSG Brian G. — Thu, 18 Mar 2021 17:40:35 -0400

Pay. Retirement is not pay. Pay is taxed. A person (Army and Air Force) that retires is not subject to UCMJ authority unless their crime happened while on active duty. Article 2 refers to Navy and Marine Corps that are part of the Fleet Reserve. These members who retire but have not achieved 30 years are paid a retainer and are subject to recall in times of national emergency and need without their consent.

Response by SGT Kenneth Gorrell made Mar 19 at 2021 6:31 PM

SGT Kenneth Gorrell — Fri, 19 Mar 2021 18:31:22 -0400

I say he earned his retirement leave be

Response by PO1 Frank Downs made Mar 19 at 2021 7:46 PM

PO1 Frank Downs — Fri, 19 Mar 2021 19:46:38 -0400

The 4th amendment of the constitution
It prohibits unreasonable searches and seizures. In addition, it sets requirements for issuing warrants: warrants must be issued by a judge or magistrate, justified by probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and must particularly describe the place to be searched and the persons or things to be seized.
General Flynn was denied this protection when members of our FBI, DOJ and US Intelligence community worked together to lie to the FISA Court spy and then attempted to entrap him, his guilty plea was based on saving his Son from the same treatment he was receiving.
I’m more concerned with Generals who are pushing Critical Race theory and purging the Military of people who don’t think like they do, Every tyrannical government always have a military that’s been purged so they will attack their own citizens.

Response by PO1 Todd McMillin made Mar 23 at 2021 1:22 PM

PO1 Todd McMillin — Tue, 23 Mar 2021 13:22:41 -0400

Simple answer? "Yes, because he committed various acts of spying and treason." Just because he's a Flag Officer shouldn't get him out of being held accountable for his crimes. While he was given A Presidential Pardon (meaning that he's GUILTY of said crimes) by Trump, whom is indebted to the RUSSIAN Government. This is no different then the Navy's Black-Eye of "The Walker Spy Ring". While the Manning Case is actually different in exposing actual "War Crimes Committed by the US Government, US Military and US Intelligence Agencies without Proper Authority or Rules of Engagement" during those actions.

With Michael Flynn it's the same reason why the Active Duty and Veterans who participated in the January 6th acts of storming the Capitol Building and causing the Death of 5 Federal Protective Service Police Officers deaths should also loose their VA Benefits completely for their crimes of Rioting, (Breach of Peace), Sedition and Treason. As several Congress members on both sides are currently seeking action from the Pentagon and VA to punish those who engage in Insurrection Day 2021.

I find in rather IRONIC that the same folks who participated in the STOP THE STEAL and INSURRECTION DAY actions; were the same folks in 2016 "To Get Over It!" and "Fuck Your Feelings!" statements towards those who disagreed with the actual Rigged Election of 2016. Then again nearly every election since 2000 has been rigged to begin with according to various "White Hat Hackers' who've shown how easy it is to both remotely and on-site break into voting booths to change results without any problem.

As well as the documented fact that the "2004 Wash of Votes out of Ohio" was done by the Republican Party. But the 2012 Election results were likely done by the Soviet backed Internet Hackers due to not wanting a Mormon in office as strong chance of WWIII happening with that cultist group.

Yet, we see the worst of the worst in the Evangelical-Like Extremism that is the Cult of Personality of Trump with the MAGA, Oath Keepers, and Proud Boys engaged in Domestic Terrorism. Which has been largely unchecked since 2017. By the fact that as far back as 2006 the FBI report of White Supremacists joining both the Military and Law Enforcement & Intelligence Agencies. The events of January 6th clearly showed us that we need to take certain measures to remove Fascists and Nationalist from the ranks regardless of skin color or religious beliefs as they are a threat to our Democratic Republic from turning into another Civil War within our lifetime.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/fbi-white-supremacists-in-law-enforcement

FBI warned of white supremacists in law enforcement 10 years ago. Has anything changed?

In 2006, the FBI warned that white supremacists infiltrating local and state law enforcement posed a threat to national security. Some are asking, what's been done to curb the trend in the decade since?

Response by SSgt Patricia Boyer/Rossi made Mar 24 at 2021 6:20 PM

SSgt Patricia Boyer/Rossi — Wed, 24 Mar 2021 18:20:22 -0400

In every eay he has gone against military values.

Response by Charlotte Moss made Mar 27 at 2021 11:43 AM

Charlotte Moss — Sat, 27 Mar 2021 11:43:58 -0400

He has been Pardoned by the true President, President Trump!

Response by AA Charles Hadden made Mar 28 at 2021 6:52 PM

AA Charles Hadden — Sun, 28 Mar 2021 18:52:37 -0400

FOr WHAT?

Response by PO1 Don Rowan made Apr 10 at 2021 9:46 AM

PO1 Don Rowan — Sat, 10 Apr 2021 09:46:25 -0400

Any "interview" by a corrupt FBI is worthless.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 10 at 2021 3:08 PM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 10 Apr 2021 15:08:54 -0400

Yes, the FBI like police can lie to you to get to the truth. That’s not illegal. Why did Flynn confess if he did nothing wrong? As a retiree Flynn is still governed by UCMJ. This is similar to Gen Petraues was investigated by giving classified info to his mistress even though she was a military officer. Flynn needs to be held accountable especially at his level. He knew what he did was wrong and got caught. There needs to be accountability for his actions. As a retiree you can always be recalled to active duty. So, yes his retirement needs to play a part in this.

Response by Capt Bill Straw made Apr 11 at 2021 9:46 AM

Capt Bill Straw — Sun, 11 Apr 2021 09:46:27 -0400

He was framed and blackmailed. The FBI agents are the ones who should be tried!

Response by SSgt Philip Rouse made Apr 11 at 2021 8:31 PM

SSgt Philip Rouse — Sun, 11 Apr 2021 20:31:42 -0400

Absolutely he should be denied benefits. He is a Commie Traitor and should have been shot at Ft Leavenworth or GITMO for TREASON!

Response by Bill Husztek made Apr 11 at 2021 11:09 PM

Bill Husztek — Sun, 11 Apr 2021 23:09:02 -0400

Flynn, was done in by his honesty and personal integrity.
The FBI, played an underhanded game of deceit against a man whose career of service us beyond reproach. They used a bad punitive law against an honest man who was operating well within the parameters of his position on the new Trump administration.
It was inconceivable to him that he was guilty of lying to the FBI's targeted assault, not on Flynn, but on Trump. The man who had risen from the common people, a man who wasn't a "trained" politician who had the audacity to believe as we were once taught to believe that any American could be President.
Flynn and Trump paid the price of being caught in that slimy net of "process crimes" so-called lying to the FBI.
Given what we have learned since this all happened, that law is a bad law and needs to be expunged.
Flynn keeps his retirement.
The FBI gets disbanded as Reagan did to the air traffic controllers, so we need to do to the FBI.
Let us not forget the FBI's colorful history from the J.E. Hoover days, through all their KGB style Directors down to today's leadership.
Too much power, too much isolation from American values. A power unto themselves, they need to be dissolved. End of their story.
But Flynn and other real patriots continue in service to America!

Response by SGT Jerry Hoy made Apr 12 at 2021 12:16 AM

SGT Jerry Hoy — Mon, 12 Apr 2021 00:16:41 -0400

He was given a full pardon. If you're gonna start taking VA benefits away then it should apply to all govt employees, not just military retirees.

Response by SP5 Joel McDargh made Apr 12 at 2021 12:36 AM

SP5 Joel McDargh — Mon, 12 Apr 2021 00:36:01 -0400

Flynn should recieve his retirement. Bottom line... Democrats hijacked Flynn trying to destroy Trump. If anything all those involved in this witch hunt needs to be tried for subversion and traitorous acts contrary to their oaths of office.

Response by AN Ron Wright made Apr 12 at 2021 1:34 AM

AN Ron Wright — Mon, 12 Apr 2021 01:34:45 -0400

Yes he should especially afte the DOJ lied and set him up there was no prosecution after the charges were dropped but the corrupt judge would not drop them even after the full court review told him to #doublestandards

Response by LTJG James Smith made Apr 12 at 2021 2:27 AM

LTJG James Smith — Mon, 12 Apr 2021 02:27:22 -0400

Are not all felons convicted, by definition?

Response by SPC Russ Bolton made Apr 12 at 2021 7:29 AM

SPC Russ Bolton — Mon, 12 Apr 2021 07:29:15 -0400

Response by Cpl Archie H. made Apr 12 at 2021 11:42 AM

Cpl Archie H. — Mon, 12 Apr 2021 11:42:12 -0400

Not any or very few flag officers should be involved in any political discussion. Not a fan of someone who betrays his nations norms of law. I do not approve of military involvement in politics Including general Austin, Mattis and Kelly. I admire the Russian military the military who won WW 2. I admire their creative way of fighting. For instance their airfields always look untidy. But the Russians unlike the US build all their planes to land and take off unkept airstrips. Back to generals Eisenhower in spite of being a general he kept the allies together. He was a uniter not a divider! Flynn’s actions did not instill balanced “United” neutrality. It created mistrust in a large sections of the United States, and our allies abroad.
How many generals did (a rare general) Eisenhower a uniter go through before he found a fighting general; the general Patton whom himself was a divider whom the allies did not trust. To me the only other US general capable today of uniting is Colin Powell now a statesman. Even General Grant in spite of his efforts to unite had huge trust issues concerning those who fought for the southern cause. I am sorry folks but Flynn brought a chunk of distrust to the United States.

Response by 1SG Christian Chenard made Apr 12 at 2021 12:53 PM

1SG Christian Chenard — Mon, 12 Apr 2021 12:53:50 -0400

He is innocent.

Response by PO3 Michael Townsend made Apr 14 at 2021 3:18 PM

PO3 Michael Townsend — Wed, 14 Apr 2021 15:18:05 -0400

Is General Flynn a convicted felon? He admitted to lying but he was never convicted of it. Right now, his case, as I can recall, should be thrown out since the DOJ ultimately dropped it. The judge dismissed the case after President Trump pardoned him. By doing about 5 minutes of research, you will see that Flynn didn't lie to them at all. Below are a couple of articles.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/08/judge-dismisses-michael-flynn-case-after-trump-pardon.html
https://www.foxnews.com/media/dan-bongino-what-did-obama-know-flynn-case

Judge says Trump pardon doesn't make Michael Flynn innocent of lying to FBI, but he tosses case

Michael Flynn lied to FBI agents about his talks with a Russian diplomat in the weeks before President Donald Trump was inaugurated.

Response by CSM Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 14 at 2021 5:23 PM

CSM Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 14 Apr 2021 17:23:33 -0400

No. As a convicted felon, he is not entitled to the "retired/retainer pay" (reduced compensation for reduced services). Retired military are subject to recall into active duty. So, the question is "Can a convicted felon serve in the military? If the answer is no, then why is he still getting retainer pay?

Response by LTC Howard Hostrander made Apr 14 at 2021 6:13 PM

LTC Howard Hostrander — Wed, 14 Apr 2021 18:13:43 -0400

LTG (Retired) Flynn is not, and never was, convicted of a felony or any other crime. Read the case file documents. They paint a very different narrative than the professional propaganda peddlers claiming to be journalists.

Response by SFC Charles Hough made Apr 14 at 2021 7:29 PM

SFC Charles Hough — Wed, 14 Apr 2021 19:29:41 -0400

I believe he should be held accountable for his actions; regulations state he is punishable under UCMJ , so therefore if guilty of a crime then he should lose his retirement and benefits. It will make others think before they act and insight all of us to be accountable for our actions and decisions.

Response by PO2 Ron Staggs made Apr 14 at 2021 8:15 PM

PO2 Ron Staggs — Wed, 14 Apr 2021 20:15:29 -0400

General Flynn should never have been prosecuted. He did nothing wrong. Former Head of FBI , COMEY, had said that, " FBI agents didn't believe that General Flynn lied." Then later, while trying to incriminate any Trump supporters for anything, someone else decided that Flynn did lie. General Flynn EARNED his retirement & those benefits should continue. I'm pretty sure that upon appeal & after EVERY imageable legal process - the prosecution case was dismissed ? Lastly Flynn was PARDENED by President Trump.

Response by PFC Bart Smith made Apr 14 at 2021 9:56 PM

PFC Bart Smith — Wed, 14 Apr 2021 21:56:25 -0400

he knew wright from wrong, he gets it and still did it?

Response by SPC Deon Holmes made Apr 15 at 2021 10:58 AM

SPC Deon Holmes — Thu, 15 Apr 2021 10:58:12 -0400

While I don't care for the man, he served his time and earned his benefits as a military man. His military benefits have nothing to do with what he "might" have said or done as a civilian.

Response by PO3 Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 15 at 2021 12:35 PM

PO3 Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 15 Apr 2021 12:35:51 -0400

Not when it was a political hit job. If that’s the case, let all lose their retirements after each election.

Response by MSG Everett Cole made Apr 15 at 2021 2:51 PM

MSG Everett Cole — Thu, 15 Apr 2021 14:51:52 -0400

General Flynn was the victim of a political perjury trap. At this point punishing him would just be more punishment for agreeing to work for a president the establishment hates. nothing more, nothing less

Response by 1SG Jeffrey Mullett made Apr 15 at 2021 8:42 PM

1SG Jeffrey Mullett — Thu, 15 Apr 2021 20:42:52 -0400

Due to Retired Gen. Flynn's actions and associations with an unfriendly foreign government, he should be returned to active duty, Courts Martialed and summarily removed from military roles. He is a traitor and a criminal. His activities and friendly association with Vladmir Putin, while acting as a Security Advisor to President Trump, put him in a severely questionable situation, that, as a former Officer in the United States Military, he should have avoided.
His criminal felony conviction is in violation to his oath as a military Officer. He has never been removed from the military, he is, in effect, a Retired Reserve Officer, therefore still subject to military recall and oversight.

Response by PFC Stephen Trynosky made Apr 16 at 2021 9:43 AM

PFC Stephen Trynosky — Fri, 16 Apr 2021 09:43:42 -0400

Seems to me that the Department of Justice dropped a ridiculous case the the judge in the case went "extra"-legal and refused to dismiss the case. The FBI and DOJ have engaged in rather obvious illegal acts during the previous administration and will never get a pass from me there. The evidence is clear and plentiful. This was as political a prosecution, without merit, as was anything you might have seen in Soviet Russia in the 1950's. Flynn has been exonerated for his "lying" about having spoken to a Russian counterpart which, was part of his job at the time. The alleged "cause" of his supposed crime, "Russian Collusion" by President Trump turned out to be a total fabrication to take down the administration.

Response by SP6 Yanrique Joseph made Apr 16 at 2021 11:25 AM

SP6 Yanrique Joseph — Fri, 16 Apr 2021 11:25:40 -0400

Why should he lose his earned benefits? Hasn't he paid the price for what he's done? Some of us think we're too perfect. Put yourself in his shoes would you want to lose your earned benefits or be punished when you have already served the time?

Response by LtCol Brian Ford made Apr 16 at 2021 8:22 PM

LtCol Brian Ford — Fri, 16 Apr 2021 20:22:35 -0400

I am appalled that the military members and veterans on this forum are so ill-informed that they would take the stances I am reading on this subject.

There WAS no crime! There WAS no conviction! He acted in full authority of his new assignment! The charges were all an attempt at presenting false charges in a conspiracy to discredit General Flynn and, more importantly, President Trump. And THAT is an act of treason! And just one of many in their process! Anyone pursuing this obvious miscarriage of justice, falls in that same category. President Trump's return to his office will bring to justice all those involved in this attempted overthrow of the government of the United States!

Response by PFC David Cheney made Apr 17 at 2021 5:28 PM

PFC David Cheney — Sat, 17 Apr 2021 17:28:30 -0400

With what is going on it is ridiculous to speculate on charges against general Flynn who was railroaded and subsequently pardoned the military has real investigations and tribunals

Response by COL Ralph Bryan Hanes made Apr 17 at 2021 8:46 PM

COL Ralph Bryan Hanes — Sat, 17 Apr 2021 20:46:31 -0400

He earned his pension. He got caught up in a trap trying to do the right thing. Entrapment was once cause for quashing charges or at least a confession being disallowed.

Response by Cpl Loel Larzelere made Apr 17 at 2021 9:16 PM

Cpl Loel Larzelere — Sat, 17 Apr 2021 21:16:00 -0400

A court martial might be the only fair trial a man can get in this country. Still:

1. Double jeopardy. He's already been tried for lying to the FBI/the FBI lying to him/shucking with intent to jive/working for "Orange Man Bad".

2. It's would be nice to force the FBI agents who lied to Gen. Flynn to appear and be examined.

3. I am not a lawyer, not do I play one on television.

Response by MSgt Harvey Beliveau made Apr 17 at 2021 9:56 PM

MSgt Harvey Beliveau — Sat, 17 Apr 2021 21:56:29 -0400

Simple answer - yes. He willingly and knowingly violated his oath to which he is still obligated. Engaging directly in conduct contrary to the security of this country is never acceptable. He has disgraced his uniform and should be held accountable.

Response by SSG Michael Laventure made Apr 17 at 2021 10:18 PM

SSG Michael Laventure — Sat, 17 Apr 2021 22:18:15 -0400

LTG Flynn was pardoned by President Trump (Commander in Chief) so how can he be punished under UCMJ?

Response by Capt Francisco Briseno made Apr 18 at 2021 12:18 AM

Capt Francisco Briseno — Sun, 18 Apr 2021 00:18:26 -0400

What part don't you understand? Don't be so ignorant and naive, or they will make you eat more ka-ka. THEY are the MASTERS and WE are the SLAVES. Now do your job and stop complaining before they bitch-slap you, again. Pur up or shut up. 1776 can happen again. The 2nd Amendment is for the government to fear the people and not the other way around. Everyone and their mother is bitching, moaning and complaining. Sit on a goddamn jury and vote with your balls and not with the instructions given by the guy in the black dress. Hello! See you all in court and don't forget to aquit me when the government tries to sacrifice me as an example. Lastly, don't insult me for thanking me for my service, you ungrateful people from a great nation as I did not serve, I sacrificed my mind, memories, organs to agent orange and who knows what other chemicals. When I'm asked for military ID for my 10% discount, I lift my shirt and show them the scars from shrapnel and communist bayonets. Read the open literature in the history of the canon fodder warriors back to ancient Rome and you will see that nothing has changed. Now is the time to change things by not being manipulated as one of the twelve idiots tjat couldn't get themselves out of jury duty out of the forty fools thar responded to the jury duty letter. American Lives Matter and divided we shall fall, again and again.

Response by SGT Jonathan Persons made Apr 18 at 2021 9:28 AM

SGT Jonathan Persons — Sun, 18 Apr 2021 09:28:04 -0400

Seeing as how President Trump pardoned him, this discussion is moot.

Response by COL David S. made Apr 18 at 2021 9:39 AM

COL David S. — Sun, 18 Apr 2021 09:39:20 -0400

Michael Flynn received a Presidential Pardon. The law is not superseded by the military or the UCMJ.

Response by CWO5 Jeffrey Backus made Apr 18 at 2021 1:12 PM

CWO5 Jeffrey Backus — Sun, 18 Apr 2021 13:12:31 -0400

Gen Flynn was railroaded.

Response by MSgt Billy Gottenstrater made Apr 18 at 2021 3:07 PM

MSgt Billy Gottenstrater — Sun, 18 Apr 2021 15:07:08 -0400

Yes, he was pardoned of all crimes and thus allowed to retire with all rights and privalages!

Response by MSgt Billy Gottenstrater made Apr 18 at 2021 3:11 PM

MSgt Billy Gottenstrater — Sun, 18 Apr 2021 15:11:16 -0400

The UCMJ should not be used in this case! He was pardoned by the President of the US! Commander in Chief of all crimes!

Response by SSG Edward Tilton made Apr 18 at 2021 3:21 PM

SSG Edward Tilton — Sun, 18 Apr 2021 15:21:54 -0400

Martha Stewart did six months for lying. Flynn should be an E1 with no medals or badges

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 18 at 2021 5:51 PM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 18 Apr 2021 17:51:21 -0400

No. He served honorably for over 30 years.

Response by MAJ Jim Woods made Apr 18 at 2021 7:16 PM

MAJ Jim Woods — Sun, 18 Apr 2021 19:16:33 -0400

YESSIR! He should collect his Retirement!

Response by PO2 Mike Vignapiano made Apr 18 at 2021 7:43 PM

PO2 Mike Vignapiano — Sun, 18 Apr 2021 19:43:23 -0400

Regardless if anyone thinks he is or isn't guilty; A federal judge on 12/08/2020 officially dismissed Flynn’s criminal case as moot due to him being pardoned. So how can you court-martial anyone after being pardoned? You can't.

Response by CPT Derek Wren made Apr 18 at 2021 7:55 PM

CPT Derek Wren — Sun, 18 Apr 2021 19:55:03 -0400

He IS and ALWAYS will be LTG Michael Fynn. He earned his retirement and benefits and to even question that without mentioning the entire situation that took place and put him in a position to as they claim “incriminate himself” which was BS in the first place.
The justice department out of the kindness of their heart and not just drop the charges. When you have an acting FBI Director and other goons under his directive that violated federal laws, I think the question better asked is should they all be receiving their pension and or benefits and continue to make their little roadshow around the country and interviews gloating about what they did and what they got away with.
As a leader it is your duty, better yet obligation to lead by example and when the highest Law Enforcment agency in the land does as they wish in order to bring a person down, in this case LTG Flynn, that’s where people really need to start asking questions.
If I were to assume or guess your thought process MSG, your mindset is that since he plead guilty and therefore he should lose said benefits you’re asking about. As a father myself and not sure if you have children or not, I would ask that you also look at the other details pertaining to what led him to plead guilty in the first place. One of which was the fact that they were threatening and or preparing to go after his son that had a child on the way. If you are a parent then you know as parents we do what we can to protect our children and shield them from unnecessary evil. Especially a situation such as this that in no way shape form or fashion involve him and was merely being used as a means to force a guilty plea.
Sorry to be long-winded, there’s just so much that took place with so many high-level officials and agencies that it’s astounding that more has not been done to any of these other persons with the exception of trying to destroy and or smear the reputation of a three-star General who served his country for 33 years in the Army, as well as served as the Director of the DIA for 2 years. By no means is he perfect, but neither has anyone I’ve ever met.

Response by SFC James Welch made Apr 18 at 2021 9:49 PM

SFC James Welch — Sun, 18 Apr 2021 21:49:23 -0400

Leave the man alone. He has suffered mistreatment from the Government enough!

Response by SPC David Paine made Apr 18 at 2021 10:15 PM

SPC David Paine — Sun, 18 Apr 2021 22:15:32 -0400

No FUG NO... Don't you pay attention to the REAL NEWS, Do even have clue as to what is happening? Michael Flynn is a REAL. Patriot... You need to update your Intel...

Response by Lt Col Timothy Cassidy-Curtis made Apr 18 at 2021 11:31 PM

Lt Col Timothy Cassidy-Curtis — Sun, 18 Apr 2021 23:31:04 -0400

You do know that he was pardoned. Don't you?.

President of the United States of America
TO ALL TO WHOM THESE PRESENTS SHALL COME, GREETING:
BE IT KNOWN, THAT THIS DAY, I, DONALD J. TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, PURSUANT TO MY POWERS UNDER ARTICLE II, SECTION 2, CLAUSE 1, OF THE CONSTITUTION, HAVE GRANTED UNTO
MICHAEL T. FLYNN
A FULL AND UNCONDITIONAL PARDON
for the charge of making false statements to Federal investigators, in violation of Section 1001, Title 18, United States Code, as charged in the Information filed under docket number 1:17-CR-00232-EGS in the United States District Court for the District of Columbia; for any and all possible offenses arising from the facts set forth in the Information and Statement of Offense filed under that docket number or that might arise, or be charged, claimed, or asserted, in connection with the proceedings under that docket number; for any and all possible offenses within the investigatory authority or jurisdiction of the Special Counsel appointed on May 17, 2017, including the initial Appointment Order No. 3915-2017 and subsequent memoranda regarding the Special Counsel's investigatory authority; and for any and all possible offenses arising out of facts and circumstances known to, identified by, or in any manner related to the investigation of the Special Counsel, including, but not limited to, any grand jury proceedings in the United States District Court for the District of Columbia or the United States District Court for the Eastern District of Virginia.
IN TESTIMONY WHEREOF, I have hereunto signed my name and caused the seal of the Department of Justice to be affixed.
Done at the City of Washington in the District of Columbia this twenty-fifth day of November in the year of our Lord Two Thousand and Twenty and of the Independence of the United States the Two Hundred and Forty-fifth.
Donald J. Trump
President

Response by SMSgt Bob Wilson made Apr 19 at 2021 1:18 AM

SMSgt Bob Wilson — Mon, 19 Apr 2021 01:18:32 -0400

Does anyone really care?

Response by COL David Petray made Apr 19 at 2021 7:19 AM

COL David Petray — Mon, 19 Apr 2021 07:19:24 -0400

His “crime” which has not been proven, occurred after he left active duty. If his pension is taken away so should a whole lot of other retired personnel who commit crimes after they hang up the uniform. No, what happens after you retire, unless you commit treason, should not be grounds for removing a pension. He and other retirees earned that pension.

Response by Cpl Thomas Stevens made Apr 19 at 2021 1:15 PM

Cpl Thomas Stevens — Mon, 19 Apr 2021 13:15:26 -0400

Felon my ass, how much more has this man done for his country than let's say Joe Biden

Response by TSgt James Warfield made Apr 20 at 2021 12:27 PM

TSgt James Warfield — Tue, 20 Apr 2021 12:27:31 -0400

I believe the key phrase is entitled to pay. Money I received as a retiree is not pay, I receiving back my investment I made for my time serving. Also General Flynn was not convicted under the UMCJ he was convicted under a civilian kangaroo court pf justice.
MSG, what does your stirring the this hornets nest help improve the huge the division this country is going through right now.
Anyone with common sense and beholding to no political Ideology can see Flynn was set up, and really did not lie the FBI.

Response by SGT Lenise Hamilton made Apr 22 at 2021 12:15 AM

SGT Lenise Hamilton — Thu, 22 Apr 2021 00:15:13 -0400

What an all/well rounded "dirt-bag", this is what you called setting the standard, lie to everyone at all levels and still get a life-time reward from the Gov't with benefits. As the saying goes, "You Fuck-Up You Move Up", Dirt-Bag Micheal Flynn. "Lock Him Up", Conversations of any type are to good for this prick/clown.

Response by SGT Arthur Tompkins made Apr 22 at 2021 8:39 PM

SGT Arthur Tompkins — Thu, 22 Apr 2021 20:39:36 -0400

He was convicted by Rats! An illegitimate side of the FBI that entrapped him, and he was pardoned by the President! We are what the future will need to get past this lie!

Response by SGT Cy Sturgis made Apr 22 at 2021 10:33 PM

SGT Cy Sturgis — Thu, 22 Apr 2021 22:33:28 -0400

Gen. Flynn’s persecution by a politicized FBI was a tragedy! He was not guilty of any crime but was forced to plead guilty to save his son from a similar fate by a rogue, criminal faction of the FBI. He should sue the FBI agents and their “supervisors” for everything they have.

Response by Cpl Bill Johnson made Apr 24 at 2021 9:18 AM

Cpl Bill Johnson — Sat, 24 Apr 2021 09:18:06 -0400

Michael Flynn should be recalled to active duty and tried by court martial. A thoroughly despicable man.

Response by SFC Tim OReilly made Apr 24 at 2021 10:57 AM

SFC Tim OReilly — Sat, 24 Apr 2021 10:57:53 -0400

Am of the opinion that the FBI is more at fault in regards to Gen. Flynn. In particular that several of their agents, supervisors, etc., should be charged with, at least criminal malfeasance.

Response by CW3 Roy Veal made Apr 24 at 2021 11:12 AM

CW3 Roy Veal — Sat, 24 Apr 2021 11:12:45 -0400

Only after everybody else including congressman and Senators that lied under oath in the same hearings they are all government employees. No reason to single out the general and ignore Hillary Clinton and others that lied to Congress

Response by SFC Jim Hunter made Apr 27 at 2021 9:57 PM

SFC Jim Hunter — Tue, 27 Apr 2021 21:57:39 -0400

In Gen. Flynn's case, no. His "felony" conviction was completely politically motivated. When President Trump takes office again, I would expect a full pardon.

Response by CSM John Schofield made Apr 28 at 2021 8:33 AM

CSM John Schofield — Wed, 28 Apr 2021 08:33:49 -0400

He a true American Hero!

Response by CSM John Schofield made Apr 28 at 2021 8:34 AM

CSM John Schofield — Wed, 28 Apr 2021 08:34:09 -0400

American Hero

Response by PO1 Paul Jungnitsch made May 1 at 2021 8:01 PM

PO1 Paul Jungnitsch — Sat, 01 May 2021 20:01:26 -0400

The general's supposed crime was a false charge of lying, when the investigators knew he was truthful. The general may have violated civilian law, not military law. The general did not lie to military investigators, so no jurisdiction. The guilty plea was properly withdrawn, despite the judge refusing to follow the law. The case was dismissed. So there is no criminal conviction. Thus he is innocent. And then he was pardoned anyway. So legally it is as if it never happened. So the argument is one of hate and persecution anyway. The whole argument shows a contempt for the rule of law. Just like the judge showed. The issue of military personnel losing a pension, over criminal activity while retired, is clearly delineated also in the regulations. Read the rest of the UCMJ, not just one sentence. What you want to happen to someone you don't like is why we have the constitution.

Response by PO2 Lon Hebert made May 2 at 2021 10:46 AM

PO2 Lon Hebert — Sun, 02 May 2021 10:46:21 -0400

he should get all his retirement back he is not a felon he is an honorable man that the demo rats went after because he worked for trump.

Response by CAPT Edward Schmitt made May 3 at 2021 5:11 PM

CAPT Edward Schmitt — Mon, 03 May 2021 17:11:13 -0400

He was pardoned and he was persecuted and prosecuted for political reasons. Proven he did nothing wrong. His retired pay is his, he earned it through honorable service

Response by CWO3 Robert Fong made May 10 at 2021 3:25 PM

CWO3 Robert Fong — Mon, 10 May 2021 15:25:03 -0400

OK, for all you people who have a Port side list, now hear this. The good General received a Presidential pardon. He is not, I repeat, is not a convicted felon. So, for all you woke guard house lawyers it is what it is. He's straight arrow and good to go. He rates my full respect as a General grade officer, end of story.

Response by CW5 Mark Smith made May 11 at 2021 6:35 PM

CW5 Mark Smith — Tue, 11 May 2021 18:35:56 -0400

He should receive a full pardon. The end.

Response by CW5 Mark Smith made May 11 at 2021 6:46 PM

CW5 Mark Smith — Tue, 11 May 2021 18:46:26 -0400

Along with Flynn, General Petraeus should also be pardoned.

Response by PO3 Andre Barrera made May 12 at 2021 7:29 PM

PO3 Andre Barrera — Wed, 12 May 2021 19:29:34 -0400

Yes

Response by SGT Clayton Myers made May 16 at 2021 7:09 AM

SGT Clayton Myers — Sun, 16 May 2021 07:09:51 -0400

Gen Flynn was pardoned... The entire case was a miscarriage fo justice... If anything this entire incident shows how political the FBI and DOJ have become... If those two organizations had any credibility the would arrest Hunter Biden !!!

Response by SPC Joseph Fioravanti made May 16 at 2021 9:48 AM

SPC Joseph Fioravanti — Sun, 16 May 2021 09:48:52 -0400

Why is it that the Corrupt FBI had the right to ask General Flynn any questions at all Because Of Obama and Biden just wanted to destroy President Trump Election as they did for 4 years. Wake up America here is a Decorated U.S. Army Veteran who should have never been approached by the FBI or DOJ without Trump knowing of this matter . Anyone who President Trump had considered for his Administration or was already in it was being attacked by the Democratic Party. How about the John Durham Investigation results being made known or are we going to wait until our Covid-19 Totally disappears from our Country. Many people in the Obama/Biden Administration should be held accountable for the Fake Russia Collusion Story that the Democratic Party made up to try and unseat Duly Elected President Trump from Office. This was definitely an Insurrection against the President of the United States but only one person in the DOJ has been charged so far. And hopefully for the Good Law abiding American Citizens I am wrong as to where this investigation will give all those involved in it, including Obama/Biden and many more, a FREE PASS, or as they say, A GET OUT OF JAIL CARD. So General Flynn was a figure of Collateral Damage to try and unseat President Trump.

Response by Capt John Burke made May 16 at 2021 10:27 AM

Capt John Burke — Sun, 16 May 2021 10:27:52 -0400

No! That whole thing was a political witch-hunt.

Response by PO3 Rick Lewis made May 16 at 2021 12:46 PM

PO3 Rick Lewis — Sun, 16 May 2021 12:46:30 -0400

He should be hung!

Response by SGT David Schrader made May 16 at 2021 3:57 PM

SGT David Schrader — Sun, 16 May 2021 15:57:03 -0400

I don’t believe that General Flynn should lose any of his military benefits that earned honorably or have a court martial action brought against him.
On the contrary, General Flynn should be awarded compensation for the financial loss that he and his family suffered during this whole ordeal. I honestly believe that he was set up by the FBI and the Obama Justice department.

Response by SGT David Schrader made May 16 at 2021 4:10 PM

SGT David Schrader — Sun, 16 May 2021 16:10:43 -0400

General Flynn should not have any of his benefits taken away, nor should there be any court martial actions brought against him.
He and his family had suffered enough during this miscarriage of Justice that he was railroaded for.
Why not start investigating and prosecuting Obama, Biden and the Obama Justice department.
They are the real criminals here.

Response by Sgt Louis R B. made May 16 at 2021 7:10 PM

Sgt Louis R B. — Sun, 16 May 2021 19:10:17 -0400

Yes he should be allowed to collect benefits.

Response by LTC Joseph George made May 16 at 2021 7:10 PM

LTC Joseph George — Sun, 16 May 2021 19:10:42 -0400

LTG Flynn should be reduced in rank to Major and receive that pension. Now that being said, there has been a number of retired Officers that nothing has happened when they have violated the regulations due to being in a "Political" position with the government. Take LTC Vindman, violated the regulations, violated his oath to the country and lied about his position along with his brother. He got to retire as an LTC and the government wanted to promote him to Colonel. Also, Berghdal got promoted and then full retirement for leaving his post. All of these and many others should have been Courts Martialed but as we see, the corruption in the government will not allow these individuals to be punished.

Response by CWO3 William Hanrahan made May 16 at 2021 9:15 PM

CWO3 William Hanrahan — Sun, 16 May 2021 21:15:25 -0400

He was pardoned. Get it?? Stupid post

Response by SSgt Cynthia Hamilton made May 17 at 2021 4:42 AM

SSgt Cynthia Hamilton — Mon, 17 May 2021 04:42:46 -0400

He certainly should be court martialed, and this should include all the insurrection activities he was able to develop and be involved in after he was pardoned by the crime boss in chief. I'm thoroughly disgusted that so many in out military and vets have been so mentally stimulated to hate and total disregard for facts. But, that's a different problem, which requires a different solution.

Response by SGT Thomas Bentley made May 17 at 2021 9:40 AM

SGT Thomas Bentley — Mon, 17 May 2021 09:40:09 -0400

Why ask a question you already know the answer to? Not asking the correct question because he IS NOT a convicted felon he was pardoned by the sitting president and was never convicted by a court of law. You should know the facts before you make inflammatory statements. Just saying, there're too many people in the world like you and this behavior needs to stop.

Response by LtCol Jim Burke made May 17 at 2021 11:12 AM

LtCol Jim Burke — Mon, 17 May 2021 11:12:24 -0400

Flynn was pardoned by the President. End of discussion.

Response by SSG Byron Hewett made May 17 at 2021 11:54 AM

SSG Byron Hewett — Mon, 17 May 2021 11:54:13 -0400

HELL YEAH! Let him have is benefits he was retired from the Army at the time he was tapped for his position by President Trump and has not violated any part of the UCMJ so General Flynn is still entitled to all benefits he has earned from service.

Response by PO1 Milton Wiseman made May 17 at 2021 5:13 PM

PO1 Milton Wiseman — Mon, 17 May 2021 17:13:02 -0400

General Flynn was PARDONED, that ends this discussion. According to the law, he never did anything wrong, clean record. Beside, this was a political hit job, and no retired military personnel should be clown courted over these types of political games, EVER.

Response by Cpl Roman Makuch made May 17 at 2021 7:19 PM

Cpl Roman Makuch — Mon, 17 May 2021 19:19:12 -0400

Someone needs to read a legal dictionary. Gen Flynn is not a convicted felon. The case was dropped by the DoJ. Plain and simple. If the press can't get it right, it's proof that they aren't too smart.

Response by SFC Donald Souza made May 17 at 2021 7:43 PM

SFC Donald Souza — Mon, 17 May 2021 19:43:28 -0400

Yes

Response by SFC Gary Fox made May 17 at 2021 9:25 PM

SFC Gary Fox — Mon, 17 May 2021 21:25:13 -0400

The Dept. of Justice moved to dismiss the charges against him stating that Flynn's questioning "was untethered to, and unjustified by, the FBI's counterintelligence investigation." Flynn was never sentenced. With that said, he should be entitled to his retirement benefits.

Response by SFC Ricky Broadnax made May 18 at 2021 11:40 AM

SFC Ricky Broadnax — Tue, 18 May 2021 11:40:44 -0400

Some may not like what I say, here. Here you have someone who broke the law accepted money from a foreign country while working for the government and a former general for the military. What Michael Flynn did was treason I would think. To others they say no, they have their own laws and make their own rules. Well if he did, good question if his pension should be stopped. I have to say this, the justice system may work for certain people. If Michael Flynn was a person of color his pension would be stopped immediately. This country's justice system has failed in so many ways for people of color it's sad. I am in a criminal justice major and I have read cases in which the system is not written for people of color. The way I see who cares if his pension is stopped.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made May 18 at 2021 2:43 PM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 18 May 2021 14:43:57 -0400

I believe the question should be: should civil services that work for the public be allowed to lie to individuals to obtain information. If so where does this fabrication stop and is it admissible in a court of law?

Response by SGT Horacio DeSouza made May 19 at 2021 12:56 PM

SGT Horacio DeSouza — Wed, 19 May 2021 12:56:12 -0400

No he should not. According to UCMJ he should be court martial. Any other soldier would have retired and done what he did would have been court martial.

Response by SSG James Stodola made May 19 at 2021 1:02 PM

SSG James Stodola — Wed, 19 May 2021 13:02:25 -0400

A lot of good comments here. So let me get this out of the way right off the bat, and this to be sure is my opinion and not a legal response. General Flynn was framed by the very government he worked for. Now, that being said, his alleged transgressions were three years give or take after his retirement from the military. Now technically that doesn't mean much taking into consideration Art. 2 of the UCMJ. Here we have a former member of our armed forces who by most accounting had a reasonably spotless career, (We all do something stupid along the way). Who accepted a position with the government post retirement and served well until the FBI decided that it was time to frame someone for some thing that most likely never happened, welcome to your FBI folks. I'm not a lawyer or legal analyst but would argue that he could be charged under the UCMJ for his purported transgressions in a civilian capacity. This however would be contradictory to common sense and good judgement, as it would not serve any best interest to the community at large in any way. As the code is written it would not likely be considered double jeopardy and could proceed, but taking additional steps punish a man for something I do not and does many, that he didn't do would ludicrous at best, or course we all know this is what our government does best. I don't know the status of his conviction at this point, was it overturned, expunged, set aside, or some other version of dismissing the charges? Not sure, but if any of those did occur then this may not be an issue. I personally think that his retirement benefits should be based solely on his military record and status of his discharge, not something that may or may not have happened after the fact. Cases like this are always tough to determine, as they don't contain any negative action taken while in uniform or in actual service of your nation. I would personally say leave things as the way they are. further punishment as I earlier stated would serve no useful purpose.

Response by SPC Frank Fasano made May 19 at 2021 5:24 PM

SPC Frank Fasano — Wed, 19 May 2021 17:24:44 -0400

Response by Martin Tschida made May 19 at 2021 6:29 PM

Martin Tschida — Wed, 19 May 2021 18:29:55 -0400

Yes. It has no relation to his sevice

Response by Sgt Mario Soberal made May 19 at 2021 7:12 PM

Sgt Mario Soberal — Wed, 19 May 2021 19:12:56 -0400

He was convicted of something that turned out to be completely false. Seems to me that this discussion is mute. Kerry has lied through his teeth, shouldn't he be in jail now! Why is this line of questioning even starting? Are we getting bleeding heart liberals trying to ensure the last administration is punished in here or something? That just sounds like a nazi-police state to me.

Response by SGT Jeremy Dannar made May 20 at 2021 9:37 AM

SGT Jeremy Dannar — Thu, 20 May 2021 09:37:58 -0400

There was no crime committed by the General. The unclassified documents prove he never lied to the FBI, or even had a conversation that could be considered inappropriate. This was a a frame job by the Obama administration, and everyone knows it.The General who needs to be prosecuted is that joke of a human Mattis.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made May 20 at 2021 8:40 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 20 May 2021 20:40:10 -0400

Response by TSgt Gerald Bohmer made May 21 at 2021 1:03 AM

TSgt Gerald Bohmer — Fri, 21 May 2021 01:03:40 -0400

The charges were questionable from the beginning. The FBI had been tasked by the previous administration to do whatever possible to undermine the Trump administration. The Steele dossier is a prime example. Our last President (We don't have one now, IMO) pardoned him after DOJ refused to follow the direction of a presiding judge to drop the case. My memory isn't so great these days I'd need to go look through the case history to give the exact timeline. But No. His retirement should not be in jeopardy. Unless some P.C. Jerk starts a vendetta.

Response by Sgt Mark McCann made May 21 at 2021 12:17 PM

Sgt Mark McCann — Fri, 21 May 2021 12:17:00 -0400

There is a ton of facts missing in your question. First, Gen. Flynn was the victim of a weaponized and politicized prosecution team that withheld evidence, and the Department of Justice withdrew all charges against him. When renegade judge tried to violate the law in trying to convict him, The President decided to pardon him, and the judge dismissed the charges against him. Procedurally, Gen Flynn was NEVER convicted of anything, because no court ever passed judgement. Would you like to start over and rephrase your question.

Response by MSgt Tony Hindman made May 21 at 2021 9:07 PM

MSgt Tony Hindman — Fri, 21 May 2021 21:07:09 -0400

Don't talk about lies if you support Trump. He lies on a much greater scale than anyone else in existence. If Flynn has nothing to hide, he should WELCOME a court martial...

Response by SSG Gerhard S. made May 21 at 2021 11:20 PM

SSG Gerhard S. — Fri, 21 May 2021 23:20:28 -0400

General Flynn was Pardoned, and therefore is entitled to any, and all benefits he earned as a
Servicemember.

Response by CPL Theodore Moore made May 22 at 2021 7:47 AM

CPL Theodore Moore — Sat, 22 May 2021 07:47:29 -0400

I (volunteer) work at a methadone clinic for veterans, and if committing crimes kept people from getting their pensions...well...most of those guys would be screwed. They let Nixon keep his pensions for the most part. So. until he's convicted of out right treason, I guess Flynn keeps his benefits.

Response by 1SG Cynthia Butlerperry made May 22 at 2021 2:30 PM

1SG Cynthia Butlerperry — Sat, 22 May 2021 14:30:30 -0400

He should NOT receive benefits.

Response by TSgt John Brody made May 22 at 2021 4:12 PM

TSgt John Brody — Sat, 22 May 2021 16:12:17 -0400

General Flynn is the VICTIM of politics. Plain and simple. Democrats are vindictive shits.

Response by Maj Sean Barnes made May 22 at 2021 6:17 PM

Maj Sean Barnes — Sat, 22 May 2021 18:17:37 -0400

He should loose benefits if his crime was related to defense issues. If he used his retired position to influence said crime then yes. If his crime brought disgrace on the military then some punitive action may be necessary... reduction in rank etc...

Response by SMSgt Ed W. made May 23 at 2021 11:05 AM

SMSgt Ed W. — Sun, 23 May 2021 11:05:56 -0400

I was a COMSEC custodian, there were very strict guidelines about how processed and secured material. It was ingrained into users of material and most people took the issue seriously. Of course, that was still during the cold war. Maybe things have changed recently pertaining to security. But, if I had screwed up doing my job I would have been stripped of all rank and sent to the big barracks in Levenworth. As I watched the Flynn escapades I couldn't figure out why he had special privileges when it came to security.

Response by MSgt James Bowers made May 23 at 2021 9:17 PM

MSgt James Bowers — Sun, 23 May 2021 21:17:29 -0400

No He was not convicted of anything related to his military service. If you open this door, how many Vets that are retired (medically or otherwise) that get into trouble after the service would fall under this action.

Response by Cpl Brian Escobar made May 24 at 2021 2:09 AM

Cpl Brian Escobar — Mon, 24 May 2021 02:09:14 -0400

Anybody who didn't have their head up there ass the last 5 years and is not a Communist knows that Michael Flynn was set up by the Seditious Pro-Iran Pro Chi-Com Globalists Oligarchs known as the Democratic Party...The entire premise of the question insinuating General Flynn is legitimately a Convicted Felon is absurd...And I can't believe I'm actually answering this question...

Response by MSgt Roger Bon made May 24 at 2021 2:20 AM

MSgt Roger Bon — Mon, 24 May 2021 02:20:57 -0400

I believe charges against Michael Flynn were trumped up by the Democratic Party to make President Trump look bad. President Trump had forgiven the Ft General for what the Democratic Party charged him with, therefor there was no felony per the law.

Response by SPC Tony James made May 24 at 2021 8:33 AM

SPC Tony James — Mon, 24 May 2021 08:33:25 -0400

Maybe so, or at least reduced

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made May 24 at 2021 9:10 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 24 May 2021 09:10:19 -0400

I am going to go with a big yes, he should be able to retain his pension and no, he should not be tried under the UCMJ. There is no historical precedent for this that I am aware of.

While I believe he may have made some mistakes in judgment, I also believe that these have been separate and apart from his military service. I would take odds that many on this board have made mistakes too.

Response by SGT Don Schaffer made May 24 at 2021 9:23 AM

SGT Don Schaffer — Mon, 24 May 2021 09:23:48 -0400

It is criminal when politicians and bureaucrats can fabricate criminal charges against a decorated vet.

Response by PO1 Sanford Snyder made May 24 at 2021 9:25 AM

PO1 Sanford Snyder — Mon, 24 May 2021 09:25:00 -0400

Why is this subject still coming up? It was a set up, he was wrongly coerced into a guilty plea. Time to put this 2 year old subject to rest, please stop re-posting it.

Response by SSgt Clare May made May 24 at 2021 3:13 PM

SSgt Clare May — Mon, 24 May 2021 15:13:29 -0400

He is no longer a convicted felon. Subject line is distorted....er... "What part of a Presidential Pardon dont you understand?"

Hashing out and keeping the BS going does nothing to General Flynn's future, it only attempts to sway opinion away from his conservative values towards the liberal left DNC Political Party's propaganda machines.

Congratulations on the subliminal messaging service for the DNC.

Response by PO2 Paul Dempsey made May 24 at 2021 5:24 PM

PO2 Paul Dempsey — Mon, 24 May 2021 17:24:12 -0400

Is it okay to swear allegiance to QAnon while under the UCMJ thats the real questions

Response by SPC Steven Nihipali made May 24 at 2021 11:05 PM

SPC Steven Nihipali — Mon, 24 May 2021 23:05:27 -0400

You know he's been aquited, right? By a court of law, not just Trump? WTF is going on with this military these days? Holy hell...a simple Google search would tell you these things LONG BEFORE you ask the question

Response by LCpl Odell Taylor made May 25 at 2021 12:02 AM

LCpl Odell Taylor — Tue, 25 May 2021 00:02:32 -0400

From what I have discovered during my research, General Flynn was extended a pardon by then-President DJ Trump. When one receives a pardon, whether on a Federal level, as Flynn was, or on a state level, in the eyes of the law, that individual is viewed as 'never having broken the law'! Therefore, actions taken by any entity against Gen. Flynn concerning this issue would NOT be allowed!

Response by MSgt James "Buck" Buchanan made May 25 at 2021 11:56 AM

MSgt James "Buck" Buchanan — Tue, 25 May 2021 11:56:36 -0400

Convicted may be, but not PROVEN guilty...leave him alone.

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made May 25 at 2021 1:47 PM

CW3 Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 25 May 2021 13:47:16 -0400

Ah, yes. The military. The only organization where you volunteer to serve your country and protect the constitution only to have to give up the rights to that same constitution which should protect you. What we really need is a Uniform Code of Government Service to apply to politicians.

Response by MSG Brent Voelker made May 25 at 2021 4:39 PM

MSG Brent Voelker — Tue, 25 May 2021 16:39:37 -0400

Guess, where do you draw the line, perjury lying under oath. Felony... same as any other felony if not worse, my opinion. ( most other felonies you can see the damage or preserved damage). Facts SM couldn't meet the requirements to be an officer, hold a clearance oh and opens quite the question of national security? So let's turn the table knowing because of initial education or choice where officers are in charge, if was an enlisted Soldier without a doubt he would go before a courts martial ya know jury of your peers ( enlisted court martial bunch o commissioned officers oh and a Staff or Command Sergeants Major) sounds like a peer selection. So let's lead by example or try to enforce the example regardless of what WE think of the GEN, political status and situation. UCMJ is clear, civilian convictions warrant military recourse

Response by PO1 Don Uhrig made May 25 at 2021 8:16 PM

PO1 Don Uhrig — Tue, 25 May 2021 20:16:38 -0400

In my lifetime of observations regarding punitive actions against officers vs. enlisted, the officers almost always get away with it.

Having said that, (awaiting backlash) there has always been the possibility of double-jeopardy in the military.

For example: Service member gets a DUI. They are punished in the civilian sector, and can then be punished again under the UCMJ for conduct unbecoming, for being AWOL while in jail, etc.

Should Me. Flynn still receive benefits? Not for me to decide. I would just hope to be treated justly and fairly were the shoe on the other foot.

But I'd also lawyer-up before being trapped. In that regard he's a fool for talking.

Response by Cpl Gabriel Camargo made May 25 at 2021 9:25 PM

Cpl Gabriel Camargo — Tue, 25 May 2021 21:25:06 -0400

Heck yeah he should still receive his benefits. Why the hell should Martha Stewart still have all her shit, she’s a felon. And hasn’t done shit for our country. No double standards favoring the Hollywood crowd. Give me a break.

Response by Col Private RallyPoint Member made May 25 at 2021 10:56 PM

Col Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 25 May 2021 22:56:53 -0400

It is my opinion, as stated in an official complaint I lodged with CID in January 2021, that he should be fully investigated for violations of, among other things, UCMJ Article 134 "Disloyal Statements" based on his reported actions and communications in December 2020 and January 2021 supporting the attempted right wing insurrection on January 6th. The US Army appears afraid to undertake the investigation so they merely acknowledged my submission and have done nothing with it. As a result, it's not clear that he actually did anything the MSM reports and thus it isn't clear whether he should receive a GCM or not. Personally, I think the investigation should be done and the relevant Commander should make an Article 32 decision one way or the other.

Response by LCpl Stanley Wilcox made May 26 at 2021 12:36 PM

LCpl Stanley Wilcox — Wed, 26 May 2021 12:36:04 -0400

I believe his military service should be a "Stand Alone" part of his life activities. (As well for anyone else.) And should not be taken away. As noted in this article I'am sure the FBI has lied before as well as most of our elected government officials. Do I need to say more!

Response by SPC Robert Schwed made May 26 at 2021 5:56 PM

SPC Robert Schwed — Wed, 26 May 2021 17:56:57 -0400

He did his job proudly, whatever he did afterward shouldn't affect his military pension.

Response by MSgt Mike P. made May 27 at 2021 12:42 AM

MSgt Mike P. — Thu, 27 May 2021 00:42:57 -0400

This was a political hack job, obviously! He was told he didn't need a lawyer, which can throw out and "evidence" obtained poisoned evidence. The FBI agents should be charged on several points!!! I have lost a lot of respect for SENIOR FBI/CIA agents, based on their loss of propriety and honest investigation technique. "We thought we could get away with it"!

Response by PO2 Robert Hunter made May 27 at 2021 11:08 AM

PO2 Robert Hunter — Thu, 27 May 2021 11:08:42 -0400

While Flynn was convicted for the crimes with which he was charged, his behavior did not reflect favorably on the US Military, especially as one of its leaders. He SHOULD be court-martialed.

Response by SSG Chris Jones made May 28 at 2021 9:48 AM

SSG Chris Jones — Fri, 28 May 2021 09:48:37 -0400

Convicted Felon? Hes been fully exonerated.

Response by COL Andrew Burns made May 30 at 2021 3:37 PM

COL Andrew Burns — Sun, 30 May 2021 15:37:59 -0400

I believe that General Flynn performed his duties in outstanding manners while in uniform and therefore is entitled to his military retirement. Remember when the reduce in rank an officer, the rule of thumb is that they are reduced to the last rank where they served honorably....like the BG at Bragg with the CPT and he was reduced to LTC because he started the affair as a COL. This is the slippery slope like in the 1980's it was sodomy to have sex with your SPOUCE in any position other than the "missionary position with the man on top". Come on children, the war is over, the evil Trump has been exorcised....Just how much blood do you want. If this is the case that you can recall and courts Marshall anyone...then no one will join!!!! and oh by the way....if my spelling is off......me.

Response by LTC Paul Yingling made May 31 at 2021 11:13 AM

LTC Paul Yingling — Mon, 31 May 2021 11:13:18 -0400

Flynn called for the violent overthrow of the US Government just YESTERDAY.

Recall this traitor ti active duty and try him for sedition and conduct unbecoming.

Response by MSgt Robert Gardner made Jun 8 at 2021 11:39 AM

MSgt Robert Gardner — Tue, 08 Jun 2021 11:39:30 -0400

I thought his charges were dismissed.

Response by Sgt Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 12 at 2021 4:08 PM

Sgt Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 12 Jun 2021 16:08:59 -0400

He was pardoned after being threatened and coerced. Either way, yes, he earned his benefits

Response by LTC Karen McKay made Jun 16 at 2021 10:15 PM

LTC Karen McKay — Wed, 16 Jun 2021 22:15:49 -0400

General Flynn was framed. Those who set him up should be in prison now like you or I would be if we pulled a fraction of something like what was done to him. This general is a national hero, and those who brought him down must be forced to pay restitution to him. He lost everything, even his home, in this travesty of injustice; he must be restored and awarded damages for everything that was done to him and his family.

Response by SGM Michael Taylor made Jun 23 at 2021 2:38 AM

SGM Michael Taylor — Wed, 23 Jun 2021 02:38:28 -0400

Gen Flynn was the victim of a partisan witch-hunt. His reputation should be restored immediately and those who targeted him should be tried for treason.

Response by SGT Jon Creager made Jun 24 at 2021 10:09 PM

SGT Jon Creager — Thu, 24 Jun 2021 22:09:13 -0400

Flynn was lied to, setup and railroaded. yes he should get all benefits!

Response by CPT Greg Alford, PhD made Jun 25 at 2021 6:24 AM

CPT Greg Alford, PhD — Fri, 25 Jun 2021 06:24:49 -0400

He is a traitor to his oath and his country. Stripped of benefits is the minimum that should happen to him and those like him!

Response by PO3 Robert Laity made Jun 27 at 2021 4:31 AM

PO3 Robert Laity — Sun, 27 Jun 2021 04:31:44 -0400

Once a person retires from anywhere he/she should be DONE with the outfit he/she retires from. It's unfair to not CUT THE CORD when a person who has served the required amount of time retires.
That said, General Flynn was PARDONED. That means that for all intents and purposes he is NOT a "Convicted Felon" and IS entitled to his FULL pension and benefits. Furthermore the entire Russian Hoax escapade was an illegal conspiracy perpetrated on the Trump presidency. General Flynn was unfortunately victimized by a very corrupt political witch hunt that did not pan out as true.

Response by PO3 Robert Laity made Jun 27 at 2021 4:32 AM

PO3 Robert Laity — Sun, 27 Jun 2021 04:32:52 -0400

Response by Sgt Jake Middlebrook made Jun 27 at 2021 11:39 AM

Sgt Jake Middlebrook — Sun, 27 Jun 2021 11:39:34 -0400

So you want a do over on a Presidential Pardon. You never heard the then FBI Director brag before Congress that he took advantage of the opening of a new administration? You never heard his brightest and best agents lied and said they were there for a friendly conversation. I will not sleep well tonight knowing you are part of my and the country's defense.

Response by CPT Wayne Price made Jul 2 at 2021 12:50 AM

CPT Wayne Price — Fri, 02 Jul 2021 00:50:06 -0400

Yes he should be court-martialed. He is of a rank that sets examples, and his statements set an extremely dangerous statement to the military and to the country, and was a violation of the oath he took. Rank does not deserve than kind of privilege, but is a much more malignant statement when it comes from an officer of his rank.

Response by SFC Dwight Beaver made Jul 25 at 2021 9:08 PM

SFC Dwight Beaver — Sun, 25 Jul 2021 21:08:17 -0400

When was he " convicted". I know he's been charged.. what did I miss

Response by CPL LaForest Gray made Jul 25 at 2021 9:56 PM

CPL LaForest Gray — Sun, 25 Jul 2021 21:56:30 -0400

Michael Flynn Pleads Guilty to Lying to the F.B.I.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.nytimes.com/2017/12/01/us/politics/michael-flynn-guilty-russia-investigation.amp.html

Five reasons Michael Flynn's guilty plea is such a big deal :
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/12/01/five-reasons-michael-flynns-guilty-plea-such-big-deal/913009001/

Read: Michael Flynn's plea agreement, details of how he lied to FBI
https://www.google.com/amp/s/http://www.cnbc.com/amp/2017/12/01/read-michael-flynns-plea-agreement-details-of-how-he-lied-to-fbi.html

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Response by SPC Jesse Davis made Jul 26 at 2021 5:36 AM

SPC Jesse Davis — Mon, 26 Jul 2021 05:36:57 -0400

Drum him out. Can't let political correctness stand in the way of dealing with traitors. Worse things have been done to better people.

Response by SSG Edward Tilton made Jul 26 at 2021 11:59 AM

SSG Edward Tilton — Mon, 26 Jul 2021 11:59:51 -0400

He PLEAD GUILTY for lying to the government. That means he betrayed his loyalty oath. He is an insult to every officer in our military. The Army should. reduce his rank to private and cancel his pension. Let him pay to fight them

Response by Cpl Mark A. Morris made Jul 26 at 2021 1:13 PM

Cpl Mark A. Morris — Mon, 26 Jul 2021 13:13:08 -0400

I would like to read the 302 form and did General Flynn sign the guilty plea to save his son? Has there been a formal hearing on sentencing?
I no longer trust the leadership of the FBI.

Response by SP5 Joe Haggerty made Jul 26 at 2021 3:36 PM

SP5 Joe Haggerty — Mon, 26 Jul 2021 15:36:32 -0400

What did Michael Flynn do to you? Or is just Flynn is a Republican!

Response by Maj Charles Porter made Jul 26 at 2021 5:42 PM

Maj Charles Porter — Mon, 26 Jul 2021 17:42:37 -0400

Things change. Gen. Flynn. Is not a felon nor convicted. Interesting post a year ago. Courts Marshal might have been a great show. FBI agents under oath, Emails, The NSA, DIA, CIA, oh! My!

Response by SGT Dennis Bolin made Jul 26 at 2021 7:25 PM

SGT Dennis Bolin — Mon, 26 Jul 2021 19:25:07 -0400

I had to pay back my severance pay from Dec 1995 in 2018 when I received VA Disability Pay so he should get nothing...

Response by SSG Michael Laventure made Jul 27 at 2021 8:20 PM

SSG Michael Laventure — Tue, 27 Jul 2021 20:20:50 -0400

LTG(R) Flynm cannot be charged since he was pardoned by the Commander in Chief, whose office has the final word on Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) and the Manual of Courts Martial (MCM) enforcement. Usually, Retired Army Flag Officers retain their retirement benefits and rank unless crime was committed while serving. For example - On November 9, 2012, Petraeus resigned as Director of the CIA after admitting having a sexual relationship with his biographer. On April 23, 2015, Petraeus pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor charge of mishandling classified materials. He was given a two-year probationary period and a fine of $100,000 but retained his four star retirement.

Response by Amn Matthew Davison made Jul 30 at 2021 7:14 PM

Amn Matthew Davison — Fri, 30 Jul 2021 19:14:39 -0400

Convict this traitor and put his sorry butt in the slammer. Do the RIGHT thing!

Response by SFC Derek Peterson made Aug 5 at 2021 10:45 AM

SFC Derek Peterson — Thu, 05 Aug 2021 10:45:58 -0400

LTG Flynn was performing his job then politically railroaded and sabotaged. As a professional Interrogator, I can get anyone to tell a lie during questioning. It was my job and it became easy. Not only should all charges be dropped, but he should also be 'made whole' (in legal terms) financially and paid additional sums for pain and suffering, not only for what he went through, but his family and reputation as well. I would love to speak personally, face to face, with any dumbass who disagrees with me. I'm retired (after 25 years AD) and have time. I'll wait for your response ...

Response by Maj Robert Larkowski made Aug 8 at 2021 3:58 PM

Maj Robert Larkowski — Sun, 08 Aug 2021 15:58:34 -0400

Just wondering, why hasn't already been court-martialed!

Response by CPO Michael Bazis made Aug 8 at 2021 10:00 PM

CPO Michael Bazis — Sun, 08 Aug 2021 22:00:48 -0400

Do you know what difference is between Flynn , Trump. and a jackass is ? No
The Jackass does !

Response by PO3 Rick Lewis made Aug 16 at 2021 11:12 AM

PO3 Rick Lewis — Mon, 16 Aug 2021 11:12:34 -0400

No! He should not receive any benefits and should absolutely be court martialed!

Response by SFC John Fourquet made Aug 17 at 2021 11:32 AM

SFC John Fourquet — Tue, 17 Aug 2021 11:32:54 -0400

Flynn receive a pardon, so yes he should keep all of his earned benefits! Don’t forget the FBI deceive Flynn when he asked does he need a lawyer.

Response by MGySgt Johnnie Canales made Aug 19 at 2021 5:42 PM

MGySgt Johnnie Canales — Thu, 19 Aug 2021 17:42:09 -0400

Let sleeping dogs lie.

Response by GySgt Alicia Wright, Ph.D., M.S. made Aug 19 at 2021 10:39 PM

GySgt Alicia Wright, Ph.D., M.S. — Thu, 19 Aug 2021 22:39:34 -0400

We cannot deflect attention away from Michael Flynn {I refuse to address him as "general}, by replying with "oh~so and so", lied so we should look the other way for him. NOT ‼ It is completely irrelevant what happened in another situation. Because someone else committs murder and is not punished, the next one should be exonerated❓Uh, yeah. I have absolutely no sympathy for him or anyone else committing similar crimes. He SHOULD lose his pension.

Response by SP5 James Stockton made Aug 19 at 2021 11:32 PM

SP5 James Stockton — Thu, 19 Aug 2021 23:32:11 -0400

You are right, but does not a military courts martial require military offense? If you are retired and are convicted of a felony, do you lose your retirement benefits? I did not think so, but I don't know. He should not be treated any different than any other service person in the same situation.

Response by PO2 Frances Smart made Aug 20 at 2021 3:25 AM

PO2 Frances Smart — Fri, 20 Aug 2021 03:25:13 -0400

Aside from the fact that Gen. Flynn was one of the victims of the coup d'etat that just took place in our government, don't you think he's been punished enough already?

Response by COL Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 20 at 2021 8:03 AM

COL Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 20 Aug 2021 08:03:10 -0400

He was set up. Those who were part of the set up should be executed without trial!

Response by CPT Carl Johnson made Aug 20 at 2021 11:26 AM

CPT Carl Johnson — Fri, 20 Aug 2021 11:26:01 -0400

Court martial, dismissal, no bennies.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 20 at 2021 7:18 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 20 Aug 2021 19:18:26 -0400

The President pardoned him. Therefore, he is entitled to everything that he worked for in his entire life. The fact that he was political targeted, like every Trump supporter is reprehensible.

Response by SrA Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 20 at 2021 8:03 PM

SrA Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 20 Aug 2021 20:03:02 -0400

Yes absolutely he should receive military benefits as a General officer. He was setup in his WhiteHouse interview with Peter Strzok. He did nothing wrong which is why the General didn’t request council in his initial interview. All he did was make a false statement because he was tricked into doing so, no matter what the General said sleazy Comey, Strzok, Paige & McCabe set him up so he either gets nailed for lying to F.B.I or The Vice President. If the UCMJ wastes one more taxpayer dollar to make The Powers That Be sleep better at night, then we all can kiss our asses goodbye. Afghanistan is a quagmire because a Commander In Chief that thinks he knows every damn thing, he’s 100% arrogant and hasn’t done a damn thing in over 40+ years as a lawmaker.

Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made Aug 20 at 2021 9:26 PM

MAJ Ken Landgren — Fri, 20 Aug 2021 21:26:06 -0400

COL Carmen DiGiacomo, if you give me a thumbs down, perhaps you can show me you have a pair and give me a cogent response.

Response by PO1 Pavanne Halpin made Aug 20 at 2021 10:35 PM

PO1 Pavanne Halpin — Fri, 20 Aug 2021 22:35:54 -0400

Number 1. The people saying he lied to the FBI are incorrect. He did not lie. What he did was be asked the same repetitive questions continuously over and over. And he was only allowed to answer yes or no. Then after a short pause they asked the question again in a slightly different wording. So, when he answered his original answer, but it was the wrong answer for that question he was convicted of lying to the FBI. It was literally one sentence. That is one of the reasons he is being able to get the decision reversed. IT is the same method they were trying to use on Kavanaugh when they were questioning him during his hearing. Asking the same question over and over by different people hoping for a different answer so they could entrap him. It is a well known tactic in interrogative questioning. And in my opinion, not ethical or just. He should have his benefits restored as he didn't actually do anything wrong. And he should NOT be court martialed.

Response by CPL Ron Dassel made Aug 21 at 2021 1:59 AM

CPL Ron Dassel — Sat, 21 Aug 2021 01:59:00 -0400

if i am not mistaken, he pled guilty and his testimony was found to be a coerced statement. this is the modern equivalent of forcing a confession out of someone. so if a policeman were to beat a confession out of someone, should they be convicted based solely upon the coerced admission of guilt? did the investigators have any evidence of the commission of a crime, other then the testimony of the accused? in this specific case the answer is NO. there were no recordings made of the interview where gen. flynn allegedly made incorrect statements to the FBI agents. without recordings do we have a context of how the statement was made? in essence, was it a clearly sarcastic statement which was interpreted literally, or was the statement of non fact even made?

my opinion is specifically should michael flynne be stripped of his pension for this allegation of an offense? no he should not. i believe lloyd austin ahs made much more egregious statements of un truths and misdirection to congress than MF, but we are not questioning his entitlement to his pension.

Response by Sgt Claudus Howell made Aug 21 at 2021 3:30 PM

Sgt Claudus Howell — Sat, 21 Aug 2021 15:30:35 -0400

The FBI is the most corrupt law enforcement agency in the country. Nothing they do can be trusted. Leave the General alone.

Response by SPC Felix Gonzalez made Aug 21 at 2021 9:02 PM

SPC Felix Gonzalez — Sat, 21 Aug 2021 21:02:02 -0400

Whatever the military rules are, they must be followed from top to bottom. You don’t change the rules for anyone.

Response by SPC Felix Gonzalez made Aug 21 at 2021 9:10 PM

SPC Felix Gonzalez — Sat, 21 Aug 2021 21:10:31 -0400

EM always get the double whammy. Get arrested for a criminal offense. I seen it happen to a good man who was taken advantage of while he was drinking. There was nothing anybody could do to help him after that. He should have been given a chance, but they sent him to Leavenworth and tarnished his lifetime at age 19. We were all saddened by what happened to him.

Response by PO1 David Shepardson made Aug 22 at 2021 12:01 PM

PO1 David Shepardson — Sun, 22 Aug 2021 12:01:29 -0400

This, I believe, is up to a military court of inquiry, as I also believe, would effect many other retired officers (like the rat Vinman) (and enisted), some who are at various levels of government.

Response by SPC Johnny Velazquez, PhD made Aug 22 at 2021 4:32 PM

SPC Johnny Velazquez, PhD — Sun, 22 Aug 2021 16:32:06 -0400

The Gen. has been through hell and back. He wasn't guilty. They set a trap for him. He served his country with honor, as opposed to the traitor, Bergdahl, who was lauded by Susan Rice, as having served with honor. He has a right to his pension.

Response by MSgt Neal Schultz made Aug 22 at 2021 5:27 PM

MSgt Neal Schultz — Sun, 22 Aug 2021 17:27:21 -0400

If Reg 27-10 should be followed n.

Response by SGT Jerry Hoy made Aug 22 at 2021 6:33 PM

SGT Jerry Hoy — Sun, 22 Aug 2021 18:33:58 -0400

General Flynn is not a Felon. This post is disingenuous and misleading.

Response by SGT James Johnson made Aug 22 at 2021 6:57 PM

SGT James Johnson — Sun, 22 Aug 2021 18:57:44 -0400

I think he has become a sick person. But not as a military man. He served with honor from what I've learned?

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 23 at 2021 10:16 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 23 Aug 2021 10:16:42 -0400

He is a Commie Traitor, he doesn't deserve anything.

Response by MAJ Larry Richardson made Aug 23 at 2021 2:56 PM

MAJ Larry Richardson — Mon, 23 Aug 2021 14:56:00 -0400

I do not feel he should be granted any privilege that we would not receive if one of us had been convicted of a felony. He should be court-martialed; however, the preciding officer over the court should not be previously or presently affiliated with Flynn. In a Special Court Martial, the judge would be at least a Brigadier General. I'm not sure that like birds flock together, but I would not hope so!

Response by SGT Edward Kline jr made Aug 23 at 2021 5:27 PM

SGT Edward Kline jr — Mon, 23 Aug 2021 17:27:11 -0400

Yes he should be court- marshaled if not it's set's a bad example for everyone else just because a gen .not above the law

Response by Sgt Earle Wingate made Aug 23 at 2021 10:18 PM

Sgt Earle Wingate — Mon, 23 Aug 2021 22:18:21 -0400

With respect, LTC Earls, Gen. Flynn lied. Far too simplistic to equate the interrogation technique with the subject's response. Gen. Flynn agreed he'd lied and confessed guilt in a federal court. By the machinations of the traitor Trump (oh yes, this lifelong Republican views him so) he escaped imprisonment. He deserves court martial.

Put another way, which brought honor on himself, Flynn or Vinman.

Response by SSG Dave Johnston made Aug 24 at 2021 1:13 AM

SSG Dave Johnston — Tue, 24 Aug 2021 01:13:01 -0400

I've yet to see comments concerning FBI Director James Comey's actions in regards to General M. Flynn, through out the entire debacle only Fox News out of all the news agency's questioned the legality of the FBI's actions concerning General Flynn.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/01/comey-fbi-clinton-emails-unilateral-decisions.html
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/michael-flynn-was-railroaded-by-james-comeys-fbi
https://thefederalist.com/2020/04/30/comey-bragged-about-violating-fbi-policy-to-ambush-flynn-in-corrupt-setup/

A Mueller Disclosure Shows Comey Thinks FBI Directors Can Do Whatever They Want

Comey’s reasoning could tempt other public officials to make themselves unaccountable.

Response by SPC Duane French made Aug 24 at 2021 11:17 AM

SPC Duane French — Tue, 24 Aug 2021 11:17:50 -0400

While I was serving time at Ft Sill prison, I learned that after serving time, even at Ft Leavenworth, an officer will still collect retirement. As a lower enlistee, currently serving time, that bothered me immensely. We both committed crimes, yet an officer would still get their retirement.

Response by SrA Douglas Collins made Aug 24 at 2021 5:31 PM

SrA Douglas Collins — Tue, 24 Aug 2021 17:31:32 -0400

flynn was wrongly accused and convicted of crap by the f-n democRATS Period!! The actual truth came out and the left media keep on reporting fake lies about Flynn FACT CHECK IT DAMN IT..

Response by SSgt William Blanshan made Aug 25 at 2021 2:02 AM

SSgt William Blanshan — Wed, 25 Aug 2021 02:02:26 -0400

Conviction overturned. FBI lied their asses off about him. Not the officers who interviewed him but that rat-bastard Comey and his ilk. |And yet, with all of the falsification of evidence, no one has been punished. Is THIS the America we fought, bled and died for? I submit that it is not.

Response by SPC Steven Nihipali made Aug 25 at 2021 4:19 PM

SPC Steven Nihipali — Wed, 25 Aug 2021 16:19:49 -0400

You haven't kept up? Full pardon... he did absolutely nothing wrong

Response by SPC Steven Nihipali made Aug 25 at 2021 4:20 PM

SPC Steven Nihipali — Wed, 25 Aug 2021 16:20:35 -0400

Look, if you're going to aak these kinds of questions man, you gotta get off thy liberal ass kissing.

Response by SPC Steven Nihipali made Aug 25 at 2021 4:34 PM

SPC Steven Nihipali — Wed, 25 Aug 2021 16:34:03 -0400

Third comment on a few minutes because I just can't... the stupid is strong with members of the "woke" folks these days. You've literally got the internet in your hands and ask questions like this. First off, didn't anyone in basic teach you to look for the FULL picture? Weren't you taught in basic that you needed to be able to decipher the shit from piss? This entire questioning is coming from CNN talking points, who we know, can't tell the truth of it slapped then with a wet paper bag already answered.

To the OP, did you hate trump that damn much that you couldn't take 5 minutes to look it up? You couldn't pull your head out of some Democrat bullshit long enough to actually find this answer? Or is it because you're too ignorant to actually believe the truth in what a pardon is and when it happened.

I'm seriously disappointed in today's lack of technology usage.

Response by CPL Michael Swan II made Aug 26 at 2021 3:25 PM

CPL Michael Swan II — Thu, 26 Aug 2021 15:25:33 -0400

Hell, we all know we'd be courtmarialed. WIthout a doubt, but I think he was in the right...

Response by CPL Michael Swan II made Aug 26 at 2021 3:26 PM

CPL Michael Swan II — Thu, 26 Aug 2021 15:26:28 -0400

Hell, we all know WE'D be court-martialed, but I think he was in the right...

Response by SP5 David Bozek made Aug 26 at 2021 3:33 PM

SP5 David Bozek — Thu, 26 Aug 2021 15:33:30 -0400

He's to be STRIPPED of rank, benefits, Court-Marshaled, forced to RE-PAY all accrued benefits. Then tried by military tribunal as a SPY and a Traitor, to spent the rest of his natural life under lock-and-key -- if not executed. I understand the rules for Treason, but a Conspiracy to attack the foundations of an OATH which he VOLUNTARILY swore to, knowing the consequences yet persisting, is an Act Of WAR!

Response by SP5 David Bozek made Aug 26 at 2021 3:48 PM

SP5 David Bozek — Thu, 26 Aug 2021 15:48:40 -0400

He should be STRIPPED of Rank and Benefits. Be forced to RE-PAY ALL ACCRUED BENEFITS from the day of conviction to the present. He should be court-marshaled, found guilty, and sentenced to life in prison without the hope of parole of pardon. This MF is a TRAITOR, a DISGRACE to the Uniform, the military, and his country. I care NOT a whit about his past; he destroyed that legacy when he SOLD OUT the country for the LIE of a corrupt election foisted upon us by a scam artist whose only lot in life was to stomp on the graves of those who got in his way -- whether living OR dead. He ACTIVELY tried to UNDERMINE the very philosophy which we all fought for, bled for, and (some) died for.
Him? a MARINE??
The Corps -- well, they will have ideas of retribution for some fool such as this. If I were to publish my REAL thoughts, I might get kicked of the I-Net....

Response by SSgt Donald Hahn made Aug 28 at 2021 2:11 AM

SSgt Donald Hahn — Sat, 28 Aug 2021 02:11:27 -0400

Hell no! As a felon he also should have lost his right to vote. But getting two bites at the apple is not right either loosing everything as in pay and benefits is fitting, but a court-martial after a civil trial and conviction is not worth the time or money.

Response by CWO2 Bill Kerr made Sep 4 at 2021 12:06 PM

CWO2 Bill Kerr — Sat, 04 Sep 2021 12:06:56 -0400

Soon as they take Petraeus’ away. Knowingly divulged allowed access classified material to a person without clearance, access, need to know.

Committed adultery with said person.

Flynn was prosecuted under an archaic law concerning acting as a representative “agent” of the US to a foreign government. At a time when US, Russian relations were at their worst since the Cold War, if you were about to be the National Security Advisor for the incoming administration I know I’d reach out and say, “Hey here is the President Elect thoughts. How can we iron out our differences and could you please refrain from any drastic measure which would push his hand upon taking office?”

Now of course I do not know what conversation took place. Yet common sense says you’d reach out to one if your largest adversary.

It was political and one of many over reaches by the previous administration and justice department. Leave his retirement and benefits alone!

Response by MSgt James "Buck" Buchanan made Sep 9 at 2021 3:47 PM

MSgt James "Buck" Buchanan — Thu, 09 Sep 2021 15:47:38 -0400

In your history lessons, was the term kangaroo court ever discussed. That's what happened to Ge. Flynn.

Response by SrA Les Dunaway made Oct 29 at 2021 9:52 AM

SrA Les Dunaway — Fri, 29 Oct 2021 09:52:30 -0400

Gen Flynn was collateral damage in the leftwing attack on President Trump. He is an American hero

Response by Cpl Ralph Pereira made Nov 9 at 2021 5:55 PM

Cpl Ralph Pereira — Tue, 09 Nov 2021 17:55:03 -0500

Gen Flynn needs to be reimbursed all the money he lost defending a trumped up charge (including his home), and allowed to continue to serve with honor, as the distinguished officer he is.

Response by PO1 Dave Shewbridge made Nov 17 at 2021 10:38 PM

PO1 Dave Shewbridge — Wed, 17 Nov 2021 22:38:34 -0500

I like to argue so here goes, Flynn avoided all penalties for his actions. due to the political situation during the mueller investigation, the general was caught in a lie. In a plea deal he agreed to plead guilty of felony lying to the FBI, through legal wrangling he never served time, and was fully pardoned be the president. For that last piece alone he should not face a court martial.
Since he avoided sentencing he avoided assigning a valuation to his felony, in sentencing the court could have seen fit to fine him and maybe have the army court martial him. This could also be ordered reviewed by the JAG. (Back to presidential pardon)
Actions taken by the administration and justice prevented any further action against Flynn. No the current administration should avoid Flynn accept as a possible witness.

Response by MAJ Raymond W. Levesque made Nov 18 at 2021 3:11 AM

MAJ Raymond W. Levesque — Thu, 18 Nov 2021 03:11:59 -0500

Trump granted Flynn a full pardon, so that's the end of that.

Response by Sgt Fredric Garms made Nov 18 at 2021 5:23 AM

Sgt Fredric Garms — Thu, 18 Nov 2021 05:23:33 -0500

The guy got railroaded. The people who did this should be locked up NOT HIM.

Response by SGT Kirk Bonanny made Nov 18 at 2021 5:36 AM

SGT Kirk Bonanny — Thu, 18 Nov 2021 05:36:10 -0500

I must throw the political aspects out the window and focus only on if he should lose his pension.

The way I see it from my point of view is that his pension should be left intact. I also believe he has been punished enough and prosecution under the military should not occur.

My reasons are fairly simple. First off, he gave this country decades of satisfactory to outstanding service. Finally, he doesn't deserve to have his life destroyed anymore than it's already been destroyed.
If anyone should be prosecuted in this situation it is Trump and Trump alone.

Response by LTC William Oliver made Nov 18 at 2021 7:26 AM

LTC William Oliver — Thu, 18 Nov 2021 07:26:27 -0500

LTG Flynn was pardoned by President Trump. Accordingly, it is as if he never participated in the plea deal he made in order to save his family, and he is not legally considered a "convicted felon."

Response by TSgt Matthew Covey made Nov 18 at 2021 7:59 AM

TSgt Matthew Covey — Thu, 18 Nov 2021 07:59:05 -0500

Considering President Trump Pardoned Flynn for all offenses he may have occurred, He cannot nor should he be court martialed.

Response by Lt Col Timothy Cassidy-Curtis made Nov 18 at 2021 12:24 PM

Lt Col Timothy Cassidy-Curtis — Thu, 18 Nov 2021 12:24:32 -0500

You do realize that the President pardoned General Flynn, don't you?

Response by SSG Jean Fils-Aime made Nov 18 at 2021 12:57 PM

SSG Jean Fils-Aime — Thu, 18 Nov 2021 12:57:16 -0500

Retired General officers should not be allowed to disregard the law like general Flynn did without consequences to serve a president that is totally corrupted. He should know better.

Response by MAJ Hugh Blanchard made Nov 18 at 2021 4:20 PM

MAJ Hugh Blanchard — Thu, 18 Nov 2021 16:20:55 -0500

LTG Flynn received a full Presidential pardon. That expunges completely all court issues from his record. He is no longer a convicted felon. That has been wiped out, entirely.
The senior FBI officer who led the team that interviewed LTG Flynn and executed a perjury trap on him was Peter Strzok. Strzok was later tossed out of the FBI for misconduct, including having an illicit affair with an FBI attorney, Lisa Paige. Strzok was married at the time. There's not a lot of glory in how the FBI mismanaged the whole phony Russian dossier business.

Response by CDR Larry Askins made Nov 18 at 2021 8:39 PM

CDR Larry Askins — Thu, 18 Nov 2021 20:39:25 -0500

I'm appalled that after all the publicity surrounding the Gen Flynn evolution to see such a bizarre question. He is an honest man - spent over five years of his life serving in Iraq and Afghanistan. I believe someone should reimburse him for the criminals (Obama, Brennan, Comey and Clapper) setting him up and bankrupting him. If anyone shud be prosecuted it should be the four that arranged this set up and who continue to try and destroy the USA. The FBI and the CIA are lying and you want to go after an innocent man.

Response by SMSgt Jeff Kyle made Nov 18 at 2021 10:38 PM

SMSgt Jeff Kyle — Thu, 18 Nov 2021 22:38:46 -0500

Any “crime” post dates his military service. As such, penalizing his retirement and Veterans benefits would be uncalled for.

Response by MSgt Robert Walters made Nov 18 at 2021 11:59 PM

MSgt Robert Walters — Thu, 18 Nov 2021 23:59:45 -0500

The In-depth Corruption and their involvement with the Clinton “Russian Dossier” Conspiracy leads back to General Flynn. The FBI admitted they set Flynn up. It was all a Political Hoax to destroy him. Four FBI Directors were fired but Director Wray continues their Corrupt way. General Flynn must be fully exonerated of all charges by the FBI and any charges related to the UCMJ. Flynn & his family have suffered enough. It’s time for Flynn to hold those accountable in a Civil Suit resulting in awards of Millions of Dollars in damages.

Response by CPT Gary Thomas made Nov 19 at 2021 1:35 AM

CPT Gary Thomas — Fri, 19 Nov 2021 01:35:13 -0500

Our former President pardoned Flynn so your question is moot.

Response by Capt Paul Beasley made Nov 19 at 2021 4:02 AM

Capt Paul Beasley — Fri, 19 Nov 2021 04:02:02 -0500

Benefits should be taken away and he Should be courtmartialed.

Response by Cpl James Pedersen made Nov 19 at 2021 6:10 AM

Cpl James Pedersen — Fri, 19 Nov 2021 06:10:37 -0500

What kind of Commie would even ask such a question?

Response by SFC Zohn Tennyson made Nov 19 at 2021 7:57 AM

SFC Zohn Tennyson — Fri, 19 Nov 2021 07:57:45 -0500

Of course he should receive his benefits. They were earned. A felon for lying to the stupid FBI who lie all the damn time. Fuck them

Response by SGT Jeff Bush made Nov 19 at 2021 8:23 AM

SGT Jeff Bush — Fri, 19 Nov 2021 08:23:22 -0500

Considering the partisan hacks running the FBI and the handwritten note from serial FBI scumbag Bill Priestap that set him up in a perjury trap and tried to get him to lie and get him fired and the other serial FBI partisan scumbags Strzok and McCabe, I think that is completely exculpatory and General Flynn should be fully exonerated with an apologies from those who set him up and denied him his right to have counsel present during questioning. Additionally, I would support a court martial and loss retirement for those who are truly guilty in this case, Strzok and any of the others who are former military and abused their roles. I think McCabe’s pension should be re-cancelled for his history of lying, insubordination and subterfuge

Response by SFC Jeff Stevenson made Nov 19 at 2021 10:38 AM

SFC Jeff Stevenson — Fri, 19 Nov 2021 10:38:47 -0500

I respectfully disagree. When was the last time, or the first time this has happened? The Flynn incident was pure politics and after the General served with honor and deserves every shred of respect. The fiasco of an investigation should not tarnish an honorable officer after service. And if so, what recourse does he have available? When politics is involved in military affairs, it will lead to anarchy. The two don't mix.

Response by 1SG James Kelly made Nov 19 at 2021 1:39 PM

1SG James Kelly — Fri, 19 Nov 2021 13:39:23 -0500

Yes, no.

Response by MSgt Thomas O'Rourke made Nov 19 at 2021 3:35 PM

MSgt Thomas O'Rourke — Fri, 19 Nov 2021 15:35:44 -0500

So Milley and Austin abandoned Bagram and this led to the death of 13 of our fellow warriors, should they be denied benefits too? Their dereliction of duty is far worse than what General Flynn did!

Response by MSgt Thomas O'Rourke made Nov 19 at 2021 3:40 PM

MSgt Thomas O'Rourke — Fri, 19 Nov 2021 15:40:04 -0500

By abandoning Baghdad (Austin) and Bagram (both) Milley and Austin are guilty of far worse dereliction, should they also be denied benefits?

Response by SFC Joshua Murtha made Nov 19 at 2021 4:39 PM

SFC Joshua Murtha — Fri, 19 Nov 2021 16:39:43 -0500

A lot of folks on here really drinking the kool-aid for that MAGA clown that ran around, while in uniform by the way, saying Islam is a cancer.. Then the other day with his new Q buddies says America should have only one religion. So by all means, keep making excuses for him...

Response by LTC Walter Wilson made Nov 19 at 2021 7:24 PM

LTC Walter Wilson — Fri, 19 Nov 2021 19:24:18 -0500

Flyn was set up by the FBI. He pleaded only when his family was threaten by the FBI.

Response by MSgt Mike P. made Nov 19 at 2021 8:20 PM

MSgt Mike P. — Fri, 19 Nov 2021 20:20:09 -0500

Yes, I believe, although the activity of the FBI, may have gotten him to confess, I believe they misled him, and like evidence thrown out due to illegal obtaining it, poison apple, etc. Initially I thought otherwise until I found out that the agents did numerous improper activities, threats for taking down his son, again, improper, etc. I have lost a lot of respect towards the FBI upper ranking personnel over the past few years. But the General deserves the benefits and is subject to the UCMJ.

Response by SSG Harry Herres made Nov 20 at 2021 2:27 AM

SSG Harry Herres — Sat, 20 Nov 2021 02:27:08 -0500

If it had been private Jones he would have been gone a long time ago. You figure it out? His commander and chief pardoned him ! No touchy now!

Response by SGT Mike Adams made Nov 20 at 2021 11:35 AM

SGT Mike Adams — Sat, 20 Nov 2021 11:35:43 -0500

Yes he should receive what he has earned. Everyone knows how and why the FBI made him lie. Austin and Lilly, they should be court martial and thrown in the brig. They are destroying our armed services. Paving the way for China in 2022

Response by PO3 Mike Hayden made Nov 20 at 2021 9:48 PM

PO3 Mike Hayden — Sat, 20 Nov 2021 21:48:29 -0500

You know they say that there are no dumb questions but they're wrong. Congratulations butter cup, did your parents have any children that lived. I bet they're proud

Response by Maj Robert Larkowski made Nov 21 at 2021 10:41 AM

Maj Robert Larkowski — Sun, 21 Nov 2021 10:41:42 -0500

Michael Flynn is hardly the example of one who dedicated his life in defense of the country.
Now it is up the SECDEF to mark the call and punish Mr. Flynn via a court-martial.

Response by LCpl Sandy Moran made Nov 21 at 2021 11:28 AM

LCpl Sandy Moran — Sun, 21 Nov 2021 11:28:24 -0500

Not at all, no benefits He forfeited his benefits if he broke the UCMJ law/rule. I believe he understood this. And took his chances on not getting caught then lying. Especially if his actions were committed while still in the service.

Response by PFC James Edward VERNON jr made Nov 22 at 2021 8:10 AM

PFC James Edward VERNON jr — Mon, 22 Nov 2021 08:10:01 -0500

WHAT DID HE DO ?

Response by SPC Carlton Phelps made Nov 22 at 2021 1:36 PM

SPC Carlton Phelps — Mon, 22 Nov 2021 13:36:18 -0500

Reading the responses, it seems Officers are responding more than enlisted? Do the same rules apply to retired enlisted?
This is off-topic, but was the active Officers who participated in the Jan 6 riot, were handled differently than enlisted? This may have changed since I last read anything about them and I will try to find out more.

Response by SFC Robert Brooks made Nov 22 at 2021 2:21 PM

SFC Robert Brooks — Mon, 22 Nov 2021 14:21:34 -0500

I have always had a problem with a retired Lieutenant General in the Intelligence field giving a speech to Vladimir Putin so soon after his retirement.

Response by SPC Joseph Molina made Nov 22 at 2021 6:14 PM

SPC Joseph Molina — Mon, 22 Nov 2021 18:14:19 -0500

Nope!!!!

Response by SP5 Norman Binder made Nov 23 at 2021 7:04 PM

SP5 Norman Binder — Tue, 23 Nov 2021 19:04:32 -0500

He has lost all semblance of a General. He is an embarrassment to Nation and Military, You got to wonder if his entire career was a hoax.

Response by SPC Lyle Montgomery made Nov 28 at 2021 1:44 PM

SPC Lyle Montgomery — Sun, 28 Nov 2021 13:44:33 -0500

I believe that he should get full military benefits. If we allow that incompentent treacherous Gen Milley to continue on then Flinn should get all his benefits. The Democratic/communist party has everything all screwed up. These un American idiots could screw up a crowbar in a sandbox. I can't wait until the mid terms when they get neutered

Response by SPC Chris Ison made Dec 10 at 2021 4:12 PM

SPC Chris Ison — Fri, 10 Dec 2021 16:12:26 -0500

If he has already been convicted of the crimes double jeopardy is attached. The question is really should he be recalled and tried for conduct unbecoming?

This, for me, depends on the crime for which he was convicted. He was convicted of perjury, which to me is conduct unbecoming, as he did as the National Security Advisor to the President of the United States.

Response by 1SG Larry Robertson made Dec 20 at 2021 8:12 PM

1SG Larry Robertson — Mon, 20 Dec 2021 20:12:36 -0500

Hell No .......it is all politics. GEN Flynn earned his retirement and his civilian life has nothing to do with his retired military pay. If you were smarter you would know that it can not be taken away except for treason. Cut out the politics and leave the man alone.

Response by MSgt Kevin Carr made Dec 21 at 2021 7:43 AM

MSgt Kevin Carr — Tue, 21 Dec 2021 07:43:08 -0500

The conviction is false, he was acting under auspices of the office he was going into. His contact with foreign governmental entities was/is a necessary action the has been carried out for many years so the incoming official can establish a relationship with their counterparts. Weak and false charges were drummed up by a rogue and corrupt FBI and allowed to stand. Gen. Flynn deserves and earned his pension by serving honorably, very much unlike many members of Congress, former and former FBI officials who were allowed to walk away with their pensions and continued to enrich themselves.

Response by John Nichols made Dec 21 at 2021 4:04 PM

John Nichols — Tue, 21 Dec 2021 16:04:36 -0500

If his infractions were not service related, then leave his benefits and pension alone

Response by TSgt Art Long made Dec 21 at 2021 5:46 PM

TSgt Art Long — Tue, 21 Dec 2021 17:46:59 -0500

He shouldn't be receiving any retirement benefits and he should be court martialed!

Response by SGM Major Stroupe made Dec 22 at 2021 7:49 AM

SGM Major Stroupe — Wed, 22 Dec 2021 07:49:01 -0500

I have always thought that double jeopardy was illegal. If a person is convicted of a crime after retirement from the military and their conviction had nothing to do with their military service then court martial appears to be a disguised double jeopardy proceeding. Retirement from the military is a reward for their honorable military service. Conviction of a crime post military handled by civilian courts should have no bearing on their military service earned benefits. While the UCMJ states otherwise, unless a retiree has been recalled to active duty then the civilian courts should handle civilian matters and the military should stay out of it. Too much politics have entered into the military causing problems of retirees being double charged for infractions. As in any situation, there are and will always be exceptions to the law. As a whole however, double jeopardy should be addressed and simply changing the charge for the same event simply to further punish a retiree amounts to double jeopardy.

Response by SGT Jerry Palmer made Dec 22 at 2021 8:22 AM

SGT Jerry Palmer — Wed, 22 Dec 2021 08:22:13 -0500

Actually they should be giving him a Medal.

Response by SFC Mark Klaers made Dec 22 at 2021 8:38 AM

SFC Mark Klaers — Wed, 22 Dec 2021 08:38:56 -0500

Not only should he get his pension, he should be exonerated as well. And those who entrapped him should face prosecution.

Response by PO3 Paula Fialkoff made Dec 22 at 2021 10:58 AM

PO3 Paula Fialkoff — Wed, 22 Dec 2021 10:58:42 -0500

He is definitely entitled to his benefits. Many of us were damaged during our service. If our continuing benefits depended on our subsequent decisions and behavior, many of us would be out of luck.

Response by Capt Steve Athanas made Dec 22 at 2021 9:01 PM

Capt Steve Athanas — Wed, 22 Dec 2021 21:01:05 -0500

LTG Flynn pled guilty, then withdrew his plea before sentencing. He was never convicted with the case ultimately being dismissed. The FBI agents who interviewed him didn’t believe he lied. So, no.

Response by SPC Steven Nihipali made Dec 22 at 2021 9:38 PM

SPC Steven Nihipali — Wed, 22 Dec 2021 21:38:30 -0500

leave him the hell alone... we already know the so called "conviction" was false and the FBI lied to even get him to lie... so, in all purpose of the question, NO. You cannot lie to the FBI and be convicted if the crime didn't take place

Response by SSG Robin Moore made Dec 22 at 2021 9:40 PM

SSG Robin Moore — Wed, 22 Dec 2021 21:40:14 -0500

He should not have been convicted of anything
Trump is a LIAR

Response by SSG Robin Moore made Dec 22 at 2021 9:41 PM

SSG Robin Moore — Wed, 22 Dec 2021 21:41:40 -0500

Trump is a Liar and an embarrassment to this country

Response by CSM Carl Cunningham made Dec 22 at 2021 9:50 PM

CSM Carl Cunningham — Wed, 22 Dec 2021 21:50:23 -0500

To be a realist, just because it can happen, does not mean it should. The beauty, but also the downside of the UCMJ, is that it is up to a Commander (who is not a lawyer or a judge) to enforce the articles in the UCMJ. I will tell you that most Commanders take everything about a Soldiers history into account when deciding punishment. And I tell you, with the resume that Mike Flynn has, I do not see anyone wasting their time doing that. Generals tend to take care of their own, as I could point out some current examples with current Generals.

A lot of what happened to LTG Flynn was political. There are a ton of people that have been giving administrative or UCMJ action as a "fall guy" for something that has gone wrong in the Army, or anywhere for that matter. At the end of the day, sending the General to a court martial would be a severe waste of resources in which the outcome is not really affecting anything the Army has to accomplish in the future.

Response by 1SG Arthur Kristiansen made Dec 23 at 2021 12:52 AM

1SG Arthur Kristiansen — Thu, 23 Dec 2021 00:52:52 -0500

Hahahahaha! Uh oh! Oh Lord, I think he may be serious.

Response by CW5 Steve Kohn made Dec 23 at 2021 3:22 PM

CW5 Steve Kohn — Thu, 23 Dec 2021 15:22:54 -0500

What about railroaded convicted "felons" whose "crimes" would be diplomatically appropriate in any other administration but were illegal and immoral in the Democrat party universe.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 23 at 2021 3:38 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 23 Dec 2021 15:38:42 -0500

In a similar vein - If I have soldiers I'm still trying to get their benefits instated for because toxic leadership decided to maliciously give them general & other than honorably discharges, then the retired general who has repeatedly sold U.S. secrets to foreign nation-states (ally & enemy) as well as committed and continues to commit treason should not only lose his benefits, but owes the US Govt. repayment.

Response by SPC Lyle Montgomery made Dec 23 at 2021 4:08 PM

SPC Lyle Montgomery — Thu, 23 Dec 2021 16:08:33 -0500

Why is it when the good guys get punished and the liberal activest like Gen Milley get away with near treason, they get away with it. Oh yeah, it;s becayse Milley is a scum sucking liberal democrat/socialist. If it was fair we would have to build a new federal prison for lots of democrats including the Clintons and the rest of the democrats who are trying to turn this into a comunist country.

Response by SSG James Nelson made Dec 23 at 2021 5:52 PM

SSG James Nelson — Thu, 23 Dec 2021 17:52:15 -0500

Max Him Out, Like they do The Poor Pfc . Hey Mike Sorry You Didn't get 47 Years Total Life Without Parole, I Did. The Last 27 Years I Didn't Need a $2.00 Haircut

Response by SSG William M Davis made Dec 24 at 2021 9:40 AM

SSG William M Davis — Fri, 24 Dec 2021 09:40:27 -0500

Given all the reports on Gen. Flynn, I see this as a political hatchet job. He met with Russian power brokers as did most everyone else on both sides of the aisle. I don’t recall any mention of his Article 31 rights.

Response by SPC Tom Trout made Dec 24 at 2021 3:26 PM

SPC Tom Trout — Fri, 24 Dec 2021 15:26:33 -0500

Are you serious about asking this question, WTF

Response by SGT Christopher Harrison made Dec 24 at 2021 4:33 PM

SGT Christopher Harrison — Fri, 24 Dec 2021 16:33:39 -0500

I know this question is old and probably dead, but RP sent it to me today so here I am.
Yes absolutely. He’s still subject to UCMJ and he should be stripped of pay rank and privileges for his actions. If it takes a court martial to do that, so be it. Skin Flynn.

Response by SGT Bruce Savage made Dec 24 at 2021 5:56 PM

SGT Bruce Savage — Fri, 24 Dec 2021 17:56:07 -0500

So the FBI can murder people at will, burn women and children, frame inocent people for murder, incite violence in out capitol, and conspire to kill a governor without anyone giving a damn. Flynn gets a couple things wrong where the agents said he didnt lie and he gets convicted. Why? Because he worked for Trump. Yup thats it

Response by 1SG Edward Cullen made Dec 24 at 2021 6:17 PM

1SG Edward Cullen — Fri, 24 Dec 2021 18:17:04 -0500

I believe he was pardoned by the President. He keeps his pension.

Response by MSG Dale Fairbanks made Dec 25 at 2021 12:47 AM

MSG Dale Fairbanks — Sat, 25 Dec 2021 00:47:45 -0500

The fbi is trying to catch the bad guys in our society. Since they can't use torture, they have to use the tools they have. We know that the bad guys lie, so an eye for an eye.

Response by PV2 Bridget Barlow made Dec 25 at 2021 12:55 PM

PV2 Bridget Barlow — Sat, 25 Dec 2021 12:55:06 -0500

Leave him alone..he was wrongly convicted

Response by Maj Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 25 at 2021 12:57 PM

Maj Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 25 Dec 2021 12:57:07 -0500

If your politics falls into the crosshairs of your political opponents, while they are in power and after you have retired, should your retirement be on the chopping block?

Go look at the transcripts referencing his guilty plea and subsequent appeals to withdraw it. The FBI believed that Flynn didn’t know that the info he shared was incorrect.

What is the definition of a lie? Can you lie without knowing that what you are saying is untrue?

Had he not been pardoned, I think it is highly likely that his sentence would have been overturned, in time.

But, you have to make the effort to look into things for yourself, and not just trust media sources (any of them), which is what it appears you have done.

Response by 1SG Danny Vorreyer made Dec 25 at 2021 1:55 PM

1SG Danny Vorreyer — Sat, 25 Dec 2021 13:55:48 -0500

The only entitlement are connected to type of discharge. Bad conduct does not receive benefits from the VA. Dishonorable Service is left to the Court Martial in setting punishment. The bottom line the Court Martial Authority decides the benefits in other than Honorable discharges.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 25 at 2021 2:29 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 25 Dec 2021 14:29:17 -0500

I say hang his traitorous ass out to dry. Take his pension and put him in jail. Even after all the bullshit and embarrassment he caused the U.S. Army and his family, he still tried to convince Trump and his allies to enact marshal law.

Response by CPL Charles Jackson made Dec 25 at 2021 6:13 PM

CPL Charles Jackson — Sat, 25 Dec 2021 18:13:38 -0500

It is a shame that he can collect a pension after lying to federal law enforcement officials, on matters surrounding National Security. Further as the former DNI and Senior Intelligence Officer is unaccusable, and all benefits should be terminated

Response by SSG James Knopp made Dec 25 at 2021 10:28 PM

SSG James Knopp — Sat, 25 Dec 2021 22:28:58 -0500

I’m not going to weigh in on this issue too heavily because “I’m” not clear as to whether he was actually convicted.
That being said, service members fulfilling their obligations to their prospective service and sacrificing their otherwise civilian life should be entitled to full entitlements they earned if they are honorably discharged.

Response by Maj Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 25 at 2021 10:50 PM

Maj Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 25 Dec 2021 22:50:16 -0500

As an officer, I may have disagreed with some policy issues from the Commander in Chief from time to time - I'd like to think I wouldn't be court marshalled for that. However, when an officer exhibits conduct and public statements that are treasoness or borderline treasoness, then THAT is another matter to be discussed in pay grades greater than mine. When it comes to upholding democracy - perhaps we should revisit the oath we took to be an officer - to defend the constitution against ALL enemies - foreign and domestic.

Response by SPC Tim K made Dec 26 at 2021 12:39 AM

SPC Tim K — Sun, 26 Dec 2021 00:39:02 -0500

With all the lies and corruption going on in big government, it is ridiculous to think of taking his pension away. He earned it, let him have it and retire.

Response by SrA Jeaneth Helton made Dec 26 at 2021 8:03 AM

SrA Jeaneth Helton — Sun, 26 Dec 2021 08:03:49 -0500

No sir.

Response by CPO Kenneth Arbogast made Dec 26 at 2021 2:37 PM

CPO Kenneth Arbogast — Sun, 26 Dec 2021 14:37:25 -0500

The Marine Corps did not prevent Oliver North's retirement, even though he admitted lying to Congress while on active duty. I would be concerned about when Flynn began acting as an agent for Turkey or Russia. He was in the administration, but was he on active duty at the time?

Response by SSG Kevin O'Connell made Dec 26 at 2021 4:27 PM

SSG Kevin O'Connell — Sun, 26 Dec 2021 16:27:29 -0500

He isn't a convicted felon. He was pardoned before the trial was complete.

Response by SSG Kevin O'Connell made Dec 26 at 2021 4:35 PM

SSG Kevin O'Connell — Sun, 26 Dec 2021 16:35:37 -0500

As far as being court-martialed now, you might want to look up the meaning of "pardon" and take a quick perusal of the fifth amendment.

Response by LTC Wayne Dandridge made Dec 26 at 2021 10:15 PM

LTC Wayne Dandridge — Sun, 26 Dec 2021 22:15:00 -0500

These kinds of questions only stir the sh*t and fan a fire that is burning far too hot. He had his day in court and he was found guilty and was pardoned. Not a model leader or person of integrity but I am for fixing problems not blame now that we are where we are. Unity is what we need, not arguing over something already decided. This is not the kind of positive discussion or topic for Rally Point. Best wishes to all who have served with honor.

Response by SFC Nelson Munford made Dec 27 at 2021 1:26 AM

SFC Nelson Munford — Mon, 27 Dec 2021 01:26:19 -0500

As he was pardoned your premise is flawed and wring.

Response by SPC John Swann made Dec 27 at 2021 7:38 AM

SPC John Swann — Mon, 27 Dec 2021 07:38:43 -0500

I he should not.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 27 at 2021 12:20 PM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 27 Dec 2021 12:20:18 -0500

FREE GEN PETRAEUS!

Response by SPC Peter Essig made Dec 27 at 2021 5:02 PM

SPC Peter Essig — Mon, 27 Dec 2021 17:02:04 -0500

He was a three star general and later the National Security Advisor who knowingly committed multiple felonies, knowingly lied to the FBI (another felony that he knew was a felony when he did it), and deliberately conspired with our rivals and enemies (specifically he lied about being an agent for a foreign govt- e.g. Turkey and Russia).

He should be in Leavenworth until the day he dies, and we all know it.

Response by Sgt Den OBrien made Dec 27 at 2021 6:46 PM

Sgt Den OBrien — Mon, 27 Dec 2021 18:46:47 -0500

This bullshit is not going to last forever and when the truth comes out I would hope that Flynn will get a multimillion dollar settlement from the government. If anyone wants to take his benefits, then go ahead and try, but a precedent has now been set and it won't hold water after the DOJ awarded pensions, back pay, and benefits to McCabe and Clinesmith, both of the FBI employ, and both criminals that were fired in disgrace due to their criminal acts. So now these scummers want to get Flynn? What THEY did to him was criminal, but then again, that's what marxist democrats do: Persecute innocent people and punish them, and then reward their own dishonest criminals. This all will be over, hopefully in a year, or sooner, then the REAL Justice department will be reestablished and every one of those felons that used perjury, entrapment, and other illegal means to harass and falsely imprison or prosecute people will finally pay for their crimes. As many of us used to be fond of saying: " Payback's a mutha.........."

Response by SFC Ralph E Kelley made Dec 27 at 2021 7:20 PM

SFC Ralph E Kelley — Mon, 27 Dec 2021 19:20:21 -0500

Its only been within the last year or so since that law was enacted - it has not been fought over in a court room yet as to its legality. By it saying "Retired members of a regular component of the Armed Forces who are entitled to pay are subject to the provisions of the UCMJ." It doesn't say they can remove an earned retirement prior to the offense under review by Courts-Marshall.

Response by PO3 Shannon Crumpler made Dec 27 at 2021 7:44 PM

PO3 Shannon Crumpler — Mon, 27 Dec 2021 19:44:47 -0500

Gen Flynn was WRONGLY Convicted by the God damn Left!
he should recieve all Benefits.

Response by Cpl Mark A. Morris made Dec 27 at 2021 7:49 PM

Cpl Mark A. Morris — Mon, 27 Dec 2021 19:49:28 -0500

Trump announced the pardon, which was widely expected, on Twitter. It wipes the felony conviction from Flynn’s record. No more Felony by our laws MSG.
I would like to see what a true legal scholar thinks about what Flynn did under duress. According to him. I read he accepted that option to save a family member.
Have you noticed anything fishy about the leadership within the FBI? Some thought they knew better than the American public and tried to get a sitting POTUS removed. Would those individuals be considered part of the CFR North American Union Global citizen program? Are they receiving a pension?
MSG, my questions are not directed at you. But at those Marxist leaning individuals who supported Treason against an American president.

Response by SMSgt Rick Robbins made Dec 27 at 2021 10:46 PM

SMSgt Rick Robbins — Mon, 27 Dec 2021 22:46:55 -0500

Now wait -- wait -- wait... Bill Clinton lied and is still collecting a paycheck.

Response by Cpl John Cogswell made Dec 28 at 2021 9:50 AM

Cpl John Cogswell — Tue, 28 Dec 2021 09:50:53 -0500

I know that if I am convicted of a crime, while incarcerated my VA Disability benefit payments will be suspended until my sentence is completed. I see no reason it should be different for a retired service member.

Once that sentence is served, payments can resume.

Response by SGT Brandon Culpepper made Dec 28 at 2021 10:03 AM

SGT Brandon Culpepper — Tue, 28 Dec 2021 10:03:04 -0500

While I don’t believe in Double Jeopardy, his actions involving himself in the January 6th Insurrection absolutely puts him on the block for treason and court martial. Activate him and charge him.

Response by Col Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 28 at 2021 1:16 PM

Col Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 28 Dec 2021 13:16:47 -0500

Regardless of one's opinion of the circumstances here, the fact is that Gen Flynn did receive a pardon from President Trump. As a matter of law, once that occurs the individual is considered "forgiven" and may not be punished further. "A person who is pardoned cannot be further punished for the forgiven offense and should not be penalized for having a record of the offense." [State ex rel. Atty. Gen. V. Peters, 43 Ohio St. 629, 650 (1885)]

Response by SFC Tracy Scott made Dec 28 at 2021 2:17 PM

SFC Tracy Scott — Tue, 28 Dec 2021 14:17:26 -0500

A U.S. federal appeals court ruled to dismiss charges against Gen. Michael Flynn, after the Department of Justice moved to drop Flynn’s case in May. So he is not a felon, maybe some research needed to be done prior to posting

Response by CAPT Jay Seligman made Dec 28 at 2021 4:18 PM

CAPT Jay Seligman — Tue, 28 Dec 2021 16:18:54 -0500

I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; He lack integrity and admitted Flynn admitted to lying to the FBI about conversations he had had with Russia's then-ambassador to the United States. His pension should be dropped to E-1 high pay.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 28 at 2021 8:05 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 28 Dec 2021 20:05:01 -0500

In other terms; “I voted for joe Biden, who agrees with me”.

Response by 1SG Dennis McMahon made Dec 29 at 2021 8:18 AM

1SG Dennis McMahon — Wed, 29 Dec 2021 08:18:10 -0500

Private Flynn (Yes, she should be demoted to Private for treason) should NOT receive his benefits.. What am I missing? You participate in an unsuccessful COUP and you think you can get away with it? Presidential "Pardon" from the twice impeached loser tells the story!

Response by 1SG Dennis McMahon made Dec 29 at 2021 8:18 AM

1SG Dennis McMahon — Wed, 29 Dec 2021 08:18:23 -0500

Response by SP5 James Johnson made Dec 29 at 2021 12:43 PM

SP5 James Johnson — Wed, 29 Dec 2021 12:43:02 -0500

Gen Flynn was set up and framed for doing his job. Yes he DESERVES his full bene's.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 29 at 2021 2:01 PM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 29 Dec 2021 14:01:02 -0500

The question is obviously tainted and prejudiced. It starts out saying "Michael Flynn. Convicted felon." Obviously a taunt. The interviewing FBI agents indicated in their official reports that he did not lie. So it is fairly obvious that the whole "show and tell" was merely a political "kangaroo court" experience in order to silence someone who could be a powerful enemy. The facts were twisted and the show went on. Similar to the old "show trials" of the defunct Soviet Union. A pity that the local Bolsheviks have decided to follow that route. So technically, the statement "convicted felon" is "true", in its own way. But it is clear to anyone who takes the time to review the facts that MORALLY, it is a blatant lie. Now, of course, we must not lose sight of the fact that the local Bolsheviks couldn't get anywhere without their local "cheer leaders", hangers-on, lackeys, bottle-blowers, etc., etc. So to the extent that these lackeys can be found and recruited to join the mobs, well... ... ...

Response by MSgt Frank Askins made Dec 29 at 2021 5:28 PM

MSgt Frank Askins — Wed, 29 Dec 2021 17:28:43 -0500

Have you ever heard of "double jeopardy"?? He earned his retirement after many years of service to the country. With the corruption in the FBI and their flagrant disregard for the rights of the individual, the DOJ should be taken to court, NOT THE GENERAL.

Response by MSgt Frank Askins made Dec 29 at 2021 5:30 PM

MSgt Frank Askins — Wed, 29 Dec 2021 17:30:47 -0500

One additional comment MSG Bojorques-Davila....... You show disrespect when you address him as "Michael Flynn". You should be saying "General Flynn".

Response by SFC Sfc Darwin Maring, USA Ret made Dec 29 at 2021 6:01 PM

SFC Sfc Darwin Maring, USA Ret — Wed, 29 Dec 2021 18:01:33 -0500

Ollie North got off. General Betrayes got probation for sharing classified i formation for P"##@. So why not.

Response by CW3 James Ives made Dec 29 at 2021 9:06 PM

CW3 James Ives — Wed, 29 Dec 2021 21:06:58 -0500

No he should not. Double jeopardy

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Response by Cpl Edward Barkley made Dec 29 at 2021 9:07 PM

Cpl Edward Barkley — Wed, 29 Dec 2021 21:07:27 -0500

He should receive benefits and no court martial !!!!!!!

Response by CW3 James Ives made Dec 29 at 2021 9:09 PM

CW3 James Ives — Wed, 29 Dec 2021 21:09:00 -0500

No he should not be. I would think that that would be a double jeopardy

Response by SFC Sfc Darwin Maring, USA Ret made Dec 30 at 2021 11:24 AM

SFC Sfc Darwin Maring, USA Ret — Thu, 30 Dec 2021 11:24:03 -0500

Did General Betrayus keep his pension after being convicted? Remember, he gave classified information to a female for P.

Response by SPC Carl P. made Dec 30 at 2021 1:49 PM

SPC Carl P. — Thu, 30 Dec 2021 13:49:59 -0500

I personally don't care whether he lied. they lied or what any of you courtroom kangaroos are saying. Nobody cares. All I can tell you is that he's a slef-seeking lunatic and you don't have to look any farther that public statements he's made.

Response by SGT Mike Judge made Dec 30 at 2021 2:28 PM

SGT Mike Judge — Thu, 30 Dec 2021 14:28:05 -0500

I believe the General was pardoned.

Response by Maj Bill Smith, Ph.D. made Dec 30 at 2021 3:06 PM

Maj Bill Smith, Ph.D. — Thu, 30 Dec 2021 15:06:38 -0500

YES1

Response by GySgt Jann Genson made Dec 31 at 2021 12:28 PM

GySgt Jann Genson — Fri, 31 Dec 2021 12:28:59 -0500

Flynn was pardoned and the car was dropped. He is not a convicted felon.

Response by PO3 Tom Berry made Jan 1 at 2022 9:48 AM

PO3 Tom Berry — Sat, 01 Jan 2022 09:48:12 -0500

1/4 or more of the people in higher Government should be in jail. You try and do what most do see what happens to you. We use to have a good FBI to keep these people in check- not anymore.

Response by SPC Robert House Jr. made Jan 1 at 2022 2:26 PM

SPC Robert House Jr. — Sat, 01 Jan 2022 14:26:00 -0500

No why should he be any different then any other military personnel that is a felon or has gotten a dishonorable dischargeed

Response by SSG Alan Holmes made Jan 2 at 2022 5:28 PM

SSG Alan Holmes — Sun, 02 Jan 2022 17:28:33 -0500

Wasn't he pardoned by the President? He's no longer a convicted felon.

Response by PO1 Frank Downs made Jan 2 at 2022 11:51 PM

PO1 Frank Downs — Sun, 02 Jan 2022 23:51:41 -0500

Should every member of the Military who works within our Intelligence Departments face a Article 31? After all they are all co-conspirators to a coup attempt of a sitting President. General Flynn admitted to lying to the FBI when the DOJ threatened his family and driving him into bankruptcy. Now we have 130+ retired Generals who think the Military should be used against the Citizens of the United States while using January 6 2021 as a insurrection.

Ask yourself this; how did the Nazi get a whole nation to follow along…. Your seeing it in live time here in America.

Response by SSG Brian k Printers Sr made Jan 3 at 2022 9:07 AM

SSG Brian k Printers Sr — Mon, 03 Jan 2022 09:07:47 -0500

Response by PO3 J.W. Nelson made Jan 3 at 2022 12:29 PM

PO3 J.W. Nelson — Mon, 03 Jan 2022 12:29:07 -0500

Seeing as how this was a farce of an investigation leading to false charges against a great General and a great military leader.....all this was done in order to discredit Donald J. Trump.....they didn't care about getting Flynn as long as it lead them to getting Trump.....I think the man should sue the U.S. Department of Justice and get every nickel he can get.....he got screwed because of partisan politics !!!

Response by SGT Jack Baxter made Jan 3 at 2022 2:43 PM

SGT Jack Baxter — Mon, 03 Jan 2022 14:43:52 -0500

No. I believe this is a political hatchet job.

Response by Sgt Robert Licher made Jan 3 at 2022 6:00 PM

Sgt Robert Licher — Mon, 03 Jan 2022 18:00:30 -0500

The scum bags At the FBI are the ones that should go to jail!! the whole FBI is a corrupt bunch of vile criminals, the whole FBI should be dissolved! And the top half should go to jail for even investigating the general. They tricked him and the treasonous FBI should be hanged for treason. And let the general pull the rope, set up the gallows on the white house lawn! Have it on national TV, then go after the DOJ another pile of shit, the top people that would even bring charges on the General should be charged with treason. And if not hanged, life in prison of hard labor! The FBI has broken the trust of the American people and should never be trusted again!! and the DOJ as well a bunch of evil demons plotting and scheming. To make good men look bad. I trust the KBG more than the scourge that is the FBI and the DOJ. It could have been any worse if the Russians did infiltrate our government. And lets not forget Biden on national TV bragged about black mailing a foreign government " If the prosecutors not fired, your not getting the money" What the fuck is that???? As far as I'm concerned the total collapse of our government has already taken place !!! If my fellow veterans called and said they are going to take back the government I would go! As an USAF Sergeant, all credibility in our government is gone!!! it is just a sad show of scumbags trying to destroy what it left of our government!!! I know I'm not the only one that feels this way. !!!

Response by SGT Frederick S. Mitchell made Jan 4 at 2022 10:59 AM

SGT Frederick S. Mitchell — Tue, 04 Jan 2022 10:59:53 -0500

Michael Flynn was attacked and set up by the current enemies of this country and constitution. There should be justice and restoration for him. I believe he is a casualty on the front line of this battle and should be honored as such.

Response by CPO Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 6 at 2022 8:38 AM

CPO Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 06 Jan 2022 08:38:12 -0500

It appears to me that the government agencies are being weaponized by political actors elected by the people for the people. Some career politicians have decided to act like if they are royalty and abuse the powers bestowed upon them when elected and doing back door deals outside of public scrutiny. If you want the hook up you have to engage in pay to play schemes to be part of the exclusive political club. Some politicians are weaponizing the democratic system to serve the elites or selfish agendas. For example, the Chris Dossier, FISA warrants, the ongoing postponed release of National Archives (Kennedy files), the cherry picking of persons that may be identified as whistle blowers or enemy of the state, 80k IRS agents to audit the 1% although the real target is the middle class, a two tier justice system, lack of accountability for the protected class. The dmeocratic system taught in our socialist education system is being distorted and the corruption is being exposed. If you can read between the lines on various media channels and reports tackling the same topics they all seem to edit news according to specific point of view or direction the want the crowd to follow. The over expansion of government is leading to missappropriation of tax revenue and more waste. The Nanny state is here to herd the masses to meet the classified secret agendas. God bless America.

Response by PO2 Tom Hauser made Jan 9 at 2022 3:49 PM

PO2 Tom Hauser — Sun, 09 Jan 2022 15:49:22 -0500

General Flynn was lied to by the FBI who at the time were engaged in treason, sedition, and the attempted political coup of POTUS Trump. General Flynn was performing the duties of his position assigned to him by POTUS Trump. The shit bird traitors at the fucking FBI are the ones that need to be shot for treason for using the Fake Russian dossier and lying to the FISA Court so they could spy on American citizens for the fucking Democrat Party in its attempt to frame POTUS Trump and General Flynn. Fuck the FBI they are nothing more today that SS Gestapo storm troopers for the Socialist, Communist, and Islamic Jihadist asshole shit birds that make up the Democrat Party and that have politicized and weaponized the leadership of the FBI, DOJ, CIA,. IRS, State Department, DOD and other federal agencies that have become tools and political hacks for carrying out the radical Democrat agenda to undermine the Constitution and Bill of Rights.

Response by CMDCM Ed Morgan made Jan 21 at 2022 6:45 PM

CMDCM Ed Morgan — Fri, 21 Jan 2022 18:45:09 -0500

Flynn is NOT a convicted felon. He received a FULL PARDON from President Trump.

That action expunged his record.

Response by PO2 Paul Dempsey made Jan 24 at 2022 8:12 PM

PO2 Paul Dempsey — Mon, 24 Jan 2022 20:12:58 -0500

On a video he swore his allegiance to QANON. last I knew swearing allegiance to an anti government movement would get you a court martial

Response by PFC Francis Ramseyer made Feb 2 at 2022 9:43 AM

PFC Francis Ramseyer — Wed, 02 Feb 2022 09:43:24 -0500

Yes, lets apply the law.

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 2 at 2022 12:36 PM

SSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 02 Feb 2022 12:36:06 -0500

wow old information

Response by MAJ David McCormick made Feb 2 at 2022 6:09 PM

MAJ David McCormick — Wed, 02 Feb 2022 18:09:11 -0500

Who came up with this inane Bull. To answer the stupid question of course not.

Response by PFC Ray Aquila made Feb 2 at 2022 10:14 PM

PFC Ray Aquila — Wed, 02 Feb 2022 22:14:23 -0500

Not only should Traitor Mike Flynn lose all of his benefits. Flynn should be reduced in rank. Flynn should be imprisoned knowing what the 1/-6 Committee knows. Post note:

Every single current Military/Veteran having anything to do with the Terrorist attack on OUR CAPITOL should have all benefits taken and imprisoned. Remember OUR OATH.

“Solemnly Swear (or Affirm)” that We “Will Support and Defend the Constitution of the United States Against All Enemies, Foreign and Domestic ..."

If anyone reading this does not agree to the OATH taken and sides with the Hundreds of Traitors on 01/06/2021. You are no better. And you will always be classified as TERRORISTS.

Response by SGT Todd Chemrinow made Feb 2 at 2022 10:47 PM

SGT Todd Chemrinow — Wed, 02 Feb 2022 22:47:52 -0500

FBI should of turned Flynn over to the Army for court-martial. I had the military following me around for 10 years after I got out, due to my clearance. Since Flynn has.been tried and convicted in a civilian cour,. to take his retirement pay and benefits would be double jepordey. Whats bothers me is there's nothing stopping a president to reinstate his security clearance. Just think of Flynn getting daily security berfings. I would of been thrown in a jail no one even knew about if I disclosed who my users where. You know what they say rank has its privileges.

Response by Lt Col Jp R. made Feb 3 at 2022 10:51 AM

Lt Col Jp R. — Thu, 03 Feb 2022 10:51:22 -0500

Don't you have better and more important things to worry about? You should pray you never get the treatment he received... no one should get that. Perhaps start with the Constitution and work your way back... stupid little things like spying on a US citizen, unmasking US citizens, withholding evidence ... simple rights you are sworn to protect but you keep on going down this rabbit hole.

Response by SPC James Clauson made Feb 3 at 2022 6:02 PM

SPC James Clauson — Thu, 03 Feb 2022 18:02:49 -0500

it was a political hit job..already proven all was fabricated to frame flynn..need facts?read john solomon..dan bongino..ect

Response by MSG Michael Gay made Feb 4 at 2022 1:13 PM

MSG Michael Gay — Fri, 04 Feb 2022 13:13:05 -0500

The entire prosecution was actually a diversion from the Bribery of the Clinton Crime Family, the Biden Crime Family and the Obama Administration Criminals. Boy Clinton was paid $500,000 for a short speech while Hilary was the Secretary of State. They also god tens of millions of dollars of “contributions” to the Clinton Foundation. The Biden Family, through his brother James and his son Hunter collected millions from Communist China, Russia, Ukraine and God knows how many other companies. The FBI, intelligence agencies and the US Department of Justice have turned a blind eye, in some cases, in some cases they have actively covered up crimes, embarrassing actions and corruption within the Administration. Wait for the Durham Investigation to report it’s findings and any more referrals for prosecution.

Response by Sgt Charles Hoehn made Feb 4 at 2022 1:28 PM

Sgt Charles Hoehn — Fri, 04 Feb 2022 13:28:04 -0500

He has disgraced himself, called for the overthrow of the government, and promoted falsehoods about the election. If I as an enlisted man had done these things I would have been thrown out of the military. Yes he should be court marshaled , stripped of rank and pension.

Response by PFC Donnie Harold Harris made Feb 4 at 2022 2:56 PM

PFC Donnie Harold Harris — Fri, 04 Feb 2022 14:56:27 -0500

He earned is retirement threw his years of service. His rank shows he was excepted and did exceptional work. Did he advise Trump as a general or as a experienced Retired citizen? He should keep his retirement it in place.

Response by SPC Martin Meyer made Feb 4 at 2022 3:25 PM

SPC Martin Meyer — Fri, 04 Feb 2022 15:25:31 -0500

Personally, I believe General Flynn should receive his retirement. The charges were false and he was exonerated. The FBI has failed this country and has a very left lean to it.

Response by PFC Ray Gibb made Feb 5 at 2022 1:34 PM

PFC Ray Gibb — Sat, 05 Feb 2022 13:34:44 -0500

HELL YES, he should be fully reinstated, his alleged felony conviction, which was overturned by the courts, and has a full PARDON from President Trump, the DULY elected president of the United States.

I would actually reinstate his rank and return him to full active duty, replace Milley, and clean house as CHIEF OF THE JOINT CHIEFS OF STAFF, meaning he has the authority to boot from all, ALL branches of the service.

Response by PFC Ray Gibb made Feb 5 at 2022 1:36 PM

PFC Ray Gibb — Sat, 05 Feb 2022 13:36:04 -0500

HE is NOT a convicted Felon, Courts dismissed, Trump Pardoned him, END OF STORY!

Response by SP5 Richard Unice made Feb 5 at 2022 2:24 PM

SP5 Richard Unice — Sat, 05 Feb 2022 14:24:07 -0500

Gen Flynn came very close to committing treason in aiding others to overturn the election. His advice to the then president was to declare martial law.
No, he should not receive benefits.

Response by SGT Lenise Hamilton made Feb 6 at 2022 6:46 PM

SGT Lenise Hamilton — Sun, 06 Feb 2022 18:46:01 -0500

Why are we still talking about this "CLOWN", he does not deserve none of our time making him feel anyway important/special. Throw him out along with the dirty babies bath water to include that "Clorox-in Chief' twice impeached psycho psychotic individual. They do not deserve our attention no way shape form or fashion.

Response by LTC Ernest Edge made Feb 6 at 2022 9:17 PM

LTC Ernest Edge — Sun, 06 Feb 2022 21:17:03 -0500

Not only is he a convicted felon, but he also advised the President to enact martial law in order to stay in power. THAT is a coup attempt. He should be court-martialed, lose all pay and benefits, demoted to private, and sent to prison. He swore to protect against all enemies, foreign and domestic. Yet he advocated a coup at the very highest levels. He is no patriot; he is a traitor to his country.

Response by PO1 George White made Feb 6 at 2022 9:46 PM

PO1 George White — Sun, 06 Feb 2022 21:46:55 -0500

Gen Flynn should be completely restored to his retired status, and a large crew over at the FBI, AG's office, and Congress marched out, stripped, tarred and feathered.

Response by Cpl Tj Marsico made Feb 6 at 2022 10:12 PM

Cpl Tj Marsico — Sun, 06 Feb 2022 22:12:51 -0500

Rally point is fucking left wing too?

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 7 at 2022 8:52 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 07 Feb 2022 08:52:16 -0500

My answer is flat out "YES", he should still receive his benefits, and in my opinion has served his country honorably. My concern is what your actual motive for posting this in the first place? Turning military against military is not my idea of a good conversation, we should all have each other's back. This was a BS Setup on Flynn and has been forgotten about. Now all of a sudden you want to bring this up.

If you want to contribute to the military issues, please feel free to discuss the Military Health Care Crisis and Rising Costs, Rising Copays, Rising Prescription Copays etc., Lack of Representation in Congress, Numerous Organizations that claim they have our back and constantly hounding us for dues and donations yet do nothing except provide lip service. Feel free to sound off on those issues, I am just not in mood to turn on a fellow military member because they went through a rough patch.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 7 at 2022 9:15 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 07 Feb 2022 09:15:17 -0500

Why is the question being posted today when it was actually from 3 years ago? Who is reposting this today?

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 7 at 2022 10:26 AM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 07 Feb 2022 10:26:16 -0500

I do not care

Response by CSM Thomas McGarry made Feb 7 at 2022 10:42 AM

CSM Thomas McGarry — Mon, 07 Feb 2022 10:42:59 -0500

I suppose if we were going to talk about court martialing Gen Flynn we need to do the same to this now retired Marine General who lied to the FBI:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/17/us/politics/obama-pardons-james-cartwright-general-who-lied-to-fbi-in-leak-case.html

Obama Pardons James Cartwright, General Who Lied to F.B.I. in Leak Case (Published 2017)

The move saves General Cartwright, a retired Marine officer, from a possible prison sentence for lying about discussing Iran’s nuclear program with reporters.

Response by Maj David J Carter made Feb 7 at 2022 11:37 AM

Maj David J Carter — Mon, 07 Feb 2022 11:37:50 -0500

Pretty much just done with this...it's mostly just a political witch hunt...let's all just move on

Response by MSgt Robert Branscome made Feb 7 at 2022 2:53 PM

MSgt Robert Branscome — Mon, 07 Feb 2022 14:53:16 -0500

Yes !!!
He is a war veteran and has earned his retyirement.
It is also well known that he was framed by the liberal left and the head if this country.
The people that should have been charged for their crimes have walked.

Response by CPL Jason Northedge made Feb 7 at 2022 4:49 PM

CPL Jason Northedge — Mon, 07 Feb 2022 16:49:04 -0500

He was guilty. If we did the same crimes he did we would lose ours, so why not him? He is governed by the UCMJ still. Pardoned means guilty, all day long!
Plus the jackass tried to call for marshal law. Take his pension and send him to mara Lago to cry on daddy's shoulder.

Response by PFC Stephen Eric Serati made Feb 7 at 2022 7:06 PM

PFC Stephen Eric Serati — Mon, 07 Feb 2022 19:06:54 -0500

No he should not receive benefits.

Response by SFC Benjamin Varlese made Feb 8 at 2022 1:21 PM

SFC Benjamin Varlese — Tue, 08 Feb 2022 13:21:11 -0500

A few things to unpack here, but it boils down to a few basics. Flynn was never tried by court martial, and the statute of limitations for Article 107 (false statements), like most UCMJ articles) is five years, which has since expired. Under 107, he arguably would not meet the burden of prosecution because he did not knowingly give false statements, corroborated by the FD-302s of the FBI investigators who interviewed him. That brings us to some of the other issues surrounding this case.
First, Comey publicly admitted he sent the investigators to speak with Flynn under false pretenses with the specific intent of finding a crime instead of during the course of an open investigation. In short, a fishing expedition for political purposes. The abhorrence of this malfeasance alone defies logic, but it pales in comparison to the lack of accountability for it to date.
Second, the previously mentioned 302s provided exculpatory evidence, which was withheld from the defense and a Brady violation. Third, the current legal system is fiscally skewed against the defendant. A defendant will literally go broke paying for adequate defense against the unlimited coffers of the government, as was the case with Flynn. He could no longer afford legal counsel, and was essentially forced to accept a plea deal.
Fourth, federal prosecutors threatened to begin investigating Flynn's son under extremely dubious justifications to additionally force a plea agreement. What parent wouldn't sacrifice themselves to protect their children, even if it meant pleading to a crime rife with reasonable doubt. Again, this behavior is morally and ethically reprehensible but, unfortunately, all too commonplace in prosecutions. Finally, Judge Emmett Sullivan showed clear personal and political bias throughout the proceedings, and he should have recused himself. For example, asking for an amicus brief from another biased individual to justify rejecting the prosecution dropping the charges/conviction was highly irregular and questioned by numerous respected legal experts. Additionally, he made several highly prejudicial statements during the course of the proceedings indicating he was not an impartial arbitrator of the case.
However, all of these facts are moot because Flynn was pardoned for what was obviously a malicious prosecution for political purposes. He earned his retirement from decades of honorable service. Period. Anyone who sincerely believes he should have faced court martial or have his retirement pulled, especially in light of all the prosecutorial and political malfeasance surrounding the case, is questionably reliable when things turn into a two-way firing range IMHO. But what do I know? I'm just a dumb grunt

Response by SGT Roger Scott made Feb 8 at 2022 2:03 PM

SGT Roger Scott — Tue, 08 Feb 2022 14:03:20 -0500

He belongs in prison

Response by SSG(P) Danielle Birtha made Feb 8 at 2022 4:15 PM

SSG(P) Danielle Birtha — Tue, 08 Feb 2022 16:15:42 -0500

lol... General Miley is working for China. The Constitution, and U.S. Treason Law calls that High Treason, punishable by death by hanging... but you want to court martial Flynn?

Joe Biden confessed that he corrupted a U.S. Treaty with Ukraine, while VPOTUS... when ONLY the POTUS has Treaty Power, and then only if at least 2/3 of the Senate allows his treaty negotiation requests... THAT Treaty (H.R. 4152) claims that any U.S. citizen who interferes with that treaty has committed treason. YOU say ... "Trump did it". Trump was POTUS with full treaty power, with the advice and consent of the Senate... but not Nancy... who says he can't have POTUS powers because she says so?

Article Two, Section One claims that we the people of the U.S. elect our POTUS and VPOTUS via the REPRESENTED DEMOCRATIC DISTRICTS OF THIS ENTIRE CONSTITUTIONAL REPUBLIC! ... not as the State Legislators command WITH THEIR LAWS THAT OVERRULE Article Six... which claims that the Constitution is the SUPREME LAW OF THIS LAND... AND no legislation BY ANY LOWER GOVERNMENT AGENCY can overrule it!!
VETERANS... READ the Constitution that you swore to uphold... WITH YOUR LIVES... to protect we the people from ALL enemies... foreign... AND DOMESTIC!

Pelosi Screamed with HIGH DRAMA that CHINA IS THE ENEMY!!!
... and then stoked her signature on a Trade Deal that gave U.S. manufacturing.. AND OUR FOOD... to enemy China.
What does Article Three say about giving aid and comfort to an enemy?
How is it PROVEN?
What does Title 18, U.S. Treason Law say about aiding enemies with legislative power?

Jan 6 2021... What is the description of an Insurrection as provided in the Insurrection Act of 1807?
Was that an Insurrection? NO.
Does the assault on all our major cities by our democratic servants for an ENTIRE YEAR... killing, robbing, destroying the lives and property of their own constituents meet the conditions described as an Insurrection? YES IT DOES >(

But you want to punish the innocent, and let the criminals ... criminal to the beyond treason... be in charge of this nation... AND YOUR LIVES... FORFEIT TO ENEMY CHHINA... BECAUSE JOE AND NANCY SAY SO???

Court Martial Flynn?
COURT MARTIAL THE ENTIRE U.S. MILITARY COMMAND FOR ALLOWING TRAITORS TO TAKE OVER OUR COUNTRY FOR OUR ENEMIES INSTEAD >(

... and... do please get the $#@% of your knees to the Flag, and the Freedom and Democracy it stands for... the constitution... AND YOUR ENEMIES >(
OR COURT MARTIAL YOURSELF FOR AIDING TRAITORS!!!

read the constitution and educate yourself!

OUR ... SERVANTS... do NOT have legitimate POWER to take OUR LIVES (our Prosperous Blessings of Liberty belong to U.S. ... not our SERVANTS, TO GIVE AND TAKE AS THEY PLEASE.... AWAY FROM U.S. AND TRADE TO OUR ENEMIES... BY ANY LAW OF THE U.S. >(

Our SERVANTS do not have the POWER to tell U.S. that we may NOT Vote as to whether or not they will trade U.S. to China the Enemy >(

TITLE 18...THAT IS TREASON AND THEY SHALL SUFFER DEATH >(

wake up... WAKE THE #%$@ UP!
240+ YEARS OF U.S. OLDIERS BLOOD SPILLED IN THE NAME OF FREEDOM AND DEMOCRACY... and y'all choose to give it all up because you are afraid of your servants???

What part of "We The People of the United States... FOR THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA"... ONLY... do you NOT understand, is demanded by that Constitution AND WE THE PEOPLE OF THIS NATION!!!

Coronavirus is the Flu. The lethal effect of the Flu is Bacterial Pneumonia infecting the sores left behind by those spikes eating your lung tissue. The bacteria causes the inflammation. Your Immune System sends white blood cells to combat the infection... pus... filling your lungs... is why you choke to death. AND A BACTERIAL INFECTION CAN ONLY BE TREATD WITH ANTIBBIOTICS!
--> and EVERY Degreed Doctor and Nurse on this planet KNOWS THAT!
--> it's Biology 101!

I call it Genocide. LEGISLATED GENOCIDE.
On the same level as Mr. Hitler... without the guns.

The Pen is indeed mightier than the sword.

We PAY THEM TO protect U.S. from our enemies ... NOT STROKE OUR LIVES AWAY WITH THEIR PENS... FOR OUR ENEMIES!!!

I suppose I will get a lot of hate responses from non U.S. citizens... and the ignorant who believe they have the right to punish me for knowing too much...
BRING IT.

BUT... Read the Constitution first ;)

Response by 1SG Fernando Perez made Feb 9 at 2022 8:14 AM

1SG Fernando Perez — Wed, 09 Feb 2022 08:14:18 -0500

Generally, yes. Being convicted of a crime almost never jeopardizes a federal pension – the rare exception to this rule are charges relating to criminal disloyalty to the United States: espionage, treason, sabotage, etc.

However, President Trump Pardoned the General. Case closed!

Response by CPT Dennis Stevenson made Feb 10 at 2022 9:45 AM

CPT Dennis Stevenson — Thu, 10 Feb 2022 09:45:09 -0500

So am I to believe a LTG never lied to his troops? The military should not play with politicians --- teach a lesson.

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 12 at 2022 1:01 AM

SSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 12 Feb 2022 01:01:34 -0500

That man should be left alone. The FBI bamboozled him into "show me a man and I will show you his transgressions. (for a lack of a better word)

Response by SSG(P) Danielle Birtha made Feb 14 at 2022 10:59 PM

SSG(P) Danielle Birtha — Mon, 14 Feb 2022 22:59:33 -0500

okay... and the $#%& rolls down hill... now they are trying to say that all prior service who smoke legalized in their State's Pot... has violated UCMJ and can be held accountable?
When do we STOP our SERVANTS... our EMPLOYEES...
FROM TAKING OUR RIGHT TO CHOOSE... OUR FREEDOM... away from U.S.?
Our Votes... are now "advisory votes"... to inform our REPRESENTIVE SERVANTS what we WANT...
We get what they say we get, or we don't get... it was "just an advisory"?
Article Two, Section 1... says we elect our POTUS and VPOTUS via Electors, or Represented Congressional Districts... as a Nation.
This last election... the State Legislators have a "Law" that says they can give the Elector Votes to the Candidate who wins the Vote of the majority of the State... not the Majority of the Represented Democracy District. This resulted in Trump getting Districts that Biden won... a minority... while Biden got a MOJORIY (over 70%) of the U.S. ...which were given to Biden...
Who... as VPOTUS withheld $1 Billion U.S. Tax Dollars, guaranteed by the ONLY Treaty Authority in the U.S. ... Obama ... violating the Impound Control Act, to keep from getting caught working against that Treaty... High Treason... no matter how you look at it.
--> AND HE CONFESSED THAT TO THE WORLD!!!!
The LAW says he was supposed to be banned... or hung... for treason.
And yet... via corruption of the Constitution... he is now POTUS.

While Trump rots in political prison... executed for the crime of NOT BREAKING ANY LAW THAT THE ENTIRE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT COULD FIND AFTER 6 YEARS OF INVESTIGATIONS!!!!

Just like Putin's opponents.
Just like Xi's opponents.

Read the Constitution. It's written in plain English.
Or ignore it as you get on your knees to your SERVANT EMPLOYEES... AND TO OUR ENEMIES, AS COMMANDED...
stupid... WILLING... slaves.

Response by SP5 William Jones made Feb 26 at 2022 5:12 PM

SP5 William Jones — Sat, 26 Feb 2022 17:12:57 -0500

FIRING SQUAD

Response by CMDCM John F. "Doc" Bradshaw made Feb 26 at 2022 8:37 PM

CMDCM John F. "Doc" Bradshaw — Sat, 26 Feb 2022 20:37:13 -0500

Politics has no place in the Military’s Mission Without Compromise! Sadly, the Military is being diluted! Doc Bradshaw

Response by TSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 4 at 2022 2:36 AM

TSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 04 Mar 2022 02:36:50 -0500

Watch "The Plot Against The President" on tubi
And remember never, never, never talk to the FBI. Never answer any question do not even tell them your name.

Response by PVT David Leach made Mar 4 at 2022 3:29 AM

PVT David Leach — Fri, 04 Mar 2022 03:29:33 -0500

Michael Flynn's dedication and life long commitment to our great country, the USA, speaks for its self. His conviction should be forgiven and stricken from the record.
The General is one of us, let's get behind him and push.
So help us God
David Leach

Response by SGM Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 4 at 2022 11:44 AM

SGM Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 04 Mar 2022 11:44:15 -0500

This kind of garbage makes me think that so many in uniform have forgotten the oath they took. Just like those elected “representatives” who, for four years, pushed the false narrative that the Trump administration was in bed with Russia. When is Comey going to be held accountable for lying to the FISA court over a Clinton concocted dossier? Questions like this could be asked all Fay every day but we know there are multiple levels of justice in this country. Perhaps you should look in to the back story regarding GEN Flynn.

Response by CWO3 Robert Fong made Mar 5 at 2022 1:34 PM

CWO3 Robert Fong — Sat, 05 Mar 2022 13:34:33 -0500

Sgt. pardon my saying so but Gen Flynn was bent over the couch on this one in an effort to disrupt the Trump administration. The President gave him a full pardon. For the military to Court Martial him at this stage would be patently obvious to the most mentally challenged of us as retribution and political revenge. That said, the military leadership of both military and civilian realms have lost respect and confidence among the population on both sides of the aisle. Looking forward to the mid-term elections, I would tread softly on political grounds for some time to come if I were them. At this point in their military careers the best that they should do is wonder what the Russian and Red Chinese will do and what we should do to avoid a disaster militarily and politically.

Response by PO1 David Hayes made Mar 5 at 2022 1:44 PM

PO1 David Hayes — Sat, 05 Mar 2022 13:44:11 -0500

General Flynn served his country with honor and only plead guilty to protect his family from corrupt Democrats and FBI agents. I believe General Flynn is an honorable man and so did President Trump which is why in November of 2020, President Trump granted General Flynn a full pardon, which means he has nothing to blemish his stellar career. So no, his pay and benefits should not be touched. This would also set a bad example if politics is allowed to ruin the name and financial future of those who have clearly earned it.

Response by COL Owen Mueller made Mar 5 at 2022 5:45 PM

COL Owen Mueller — Sat, 05 Mar 2022 17:45:01 -0500

This guy lied to the FBI and then took an oath to QAN. I say strip him of rank and his pension. He is just like Trump

Response by PFC David Ziegler made Mar 5 at 2022 6:30 PM

PFC David Ziegler — Sat, 05 Mar 2022 18:30:43 -0500

General Flynn is a hero!, and should be treated as such!

Response by CPT Jeff Reichardt made Mar 6 at 2022 1:50 AM

CPT Jeff Reichardt — Sun, 06 Mar 2022 01:50:46 -0500

He was pardoned. It’s over

Response by LTC Ray Buenteo made Mar 6 at 2022 12:32 PM

LTC Ray Buenteo — Sun, 06 Mar 2022 12:32:58 -0500

Retired general/former director CIA Petraus: engaged in extra marital affair with LTC Paula Broadwell and without authorization released classified information to her. Petraus was found guilty of misdemeanor charges of release of classified info to his mistress. Adultry is prosecutable under Article 134, UCMJ. Retired Officers are still answerable to UCMJ. So you see where I’m going with this?

Response by MAJ John Williams made Mar 6 at 2022 4:23 PM

MAJ John Williams — Sun, 06 Mar 2022 16:23:47 -0500

Tried? No. Benefits? Yes.

Response by SSG Michael Doolittle made Mar 6 at 2022 4:29 PM

SSG Michael Doolittle — Sun, 06 Mar 2022 16:29:59 -0500

As a General Officer he can be recalled to duty and Courts Marshalled for violating his Oath... He is basically a traitor and Violated his Oath to "Protect & Defend the Constitution of the United States of America against ALL ENEMIES FOREIGN & DOMESTIC"

Response by COL Frank Siltman made Mar 6 at 2022 9:32 PM

COL Frank Siltman — Sun, 06 Mar 2022 21:32:35 -0500

Then there is always the problem that the DC Circuit Court of Appeals ordered the case dismissed… and then that was overturned, appealed, etc, etc. So the case isn’t settled, and there were irregularities in the FBI’s conduct. Let’s see how the final outcome settles, and again, wouldn’t we be punishing him twice? And for something that occurred outside Military service? Is that Justice?

Response by 1SG James Kelly made Mar 6 at 2022 10:03 PM

1SG James Kelly — Sun, 06 Mar 2022 22:03:26 -0500

Michael Flynn. Convicted felon. Should he still receive benefits as a retired military general? Should he now be court-martialed?

Yes, No.

Response by CWO4 Tim Hecht made Mar 6 at 2022 11:55 PM

CWO4 Tim Hecht — Sun, 06 Mar 2022 23:55:30 -0500

Michael Flynn was given a "full pardon" by President Trump in 2020. So yes to benefits and no to a Courts Martial.

Response by MAJ Raymond W. Levesque made Mar 7 at 2022 12:52 AM

MAJ Raymond W. Levesque — Mon, 07 Mar 2022 00:52:39 -0500

Unfortunately trump pardoned Flynn. The fact he was guilty is irrelevant; it's as if it never happened.

Response by SrA Ronald Moore made Mar 7 at 2022 5:01 AM

SrA Ronald Moore — Mon, 07 Mar 2022 05:01:05 -0500

Keep us posted to how it suppose to be handled

Response by Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen made Mar 7 at 2022 12:10 PM

Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen — Mon, 07 Mar 2022 12:10:49 -0500

As much as I think he is a traitor to his country all of his actions occurred in civilian life and we shouldn't set the precedent that if a retired military individual gets convicted of a felony they lose their pension. He is certainly subject to recall and court martial that could strip him of his retirement benefits if convicted but then again he was a civilian when his crimes were committed.

Response by PO3 Tom Berry made Mar 8 at 2022 3:38 PM

PO3 Tom Berry — Tue, 08 Mar 2022 15:38:13 -0500

Really. The aholes in DC lie all the time do you see one going to jail. You bet your ass he should get his pay.

Response by LTC Ray Buenteo made Mar 8 at 2022 3:45 PM

LTC Ray Buenteo — Tue, 08 Mar 2022 15:45:44 -0500

Yeah that article covers retired officers. Retired enlisted who complete their contract are not subject to UCMJ after retirement

Response by SGT Pedro Belardo made Mar 9 at 2022 11:54 PM

SGT Pedro Belardo — Wed, 09 Mar 2022 23:54:22 -0500

If there's a UCMJ code for a crime or criminal behavior after retirement for Service members (enlisted/commissioned/warrant) , I don't see why not. We have to stop kidding ourselves. We as members and later veterans of all branches of military service need to realize that there are people out there, whether family members, friends or acquaintances that look up to us and see us as role models. If it is hard for a veteran to keep his/her nose clean after service, then that veteran needs to think if the personal sacrifices made for this Nation were very dear to them. I don't know but not only my personal sacrifices but also the name of my family is intertwined in everything that I do daily during my civilian life. Be honorable, in and out of service and be a person of excellence.

Response by Cpl Roman Makuch made Mar 10 at 2022 12:55 AM

Cpl Roman Makuch — Thu, 10 Mar 2022 00:55:11 -0500

Excuse me. Please explain how he is a convicted felon? DoJ dropped the charges.

Response by SGM Thomas Adderley made Mar 10 at 2022 12:43 PM

SGM Thomas Adderley — Thu, 10 Mar 2022 12:43:10 -0500

If there was no documented and convincing argument for the convening of a Courts Martial why beat a dead horse?

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 10 at 2022 7:47 PM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 10 Mar 2022 19:47:31 -0500

If you are of the belief that the government overstepped and the FBI entrapped him.... I just ask you to remember that football player who took a knee during the NA to draw attention to the government and LEA constantly doing this to a segment of our society often to a much greater degree (Colin Kaepernick).

Response by SFC Cheryl McElroy US ARMY (RET) made Mar 11 at 2022 10:33 AM

SFC Cheryl McElroy US ARMY (RET) — Fri, 11 Mar 2022 10:33:17 -0500

You need help with that TDS.

Response by SFC Dave Nutter made Mar 11 at 2022 12:51 PM

SFC Dave Nutter — Fri, 11 Mar 2022 12:51:26 -0500

all of the stuff that happened during the trump presidency stinks like a long dead fish. everyone was/is dirty but most will go unpunished

Response by Cpl David E. Jenkins Jr. made Mar 11 at 2022 1:21 PM

Cpl David E. Jenkins Jr. — Fri, 11 Mar 2022 13:21:50 -0500

The Law is the Law!

Response by SFC Terry Bryant made Mar 11 at 2022 3:14 PM

SFC Terry Bryant — Fri, 11 Mar 2022 15:14:19 -0500

General Flynn is not a criminal. He is the victim of corrupt politicians. However the people who framed him within the FBI and the dirty Democrats who pushed his frame job should be charged and hailed.

Response by CSM Tony Blair made Mar 14 at 2022 3:51 AM

CSM Tony Blair — Mon, 14 Mar 2022 03:51:21 -0400

Facts,
Law-in-forcement can lie to you in a criminal investigation, any lawyer or criminal Justice major can tell you that, that’s criminal Justice 101.
Second, if you are convicted of certain crimes, you forfeit your military privileges.
Our personal feelings about a individual does not and should not come into play.
We all took a oath, that oath still holds true if you are receiving military benefits.

Airborne All the way!!!

Response by MSgt Mark Donaldson made Mar 18 at 2022 6:01 PM

MSgt Mark Donaldson — Fri, 18 Mar 2022 18:01:53 -0400

Run it up and disk him. After serving for 24 years on active duty, regardless what others think, there are 2 sets of rules; 1 for enlisted, and 1 for officers. Prime example: enlisted man has to be knee deep in the shit in combat to earn ribbons and be ‘in country’ for a set amount of time, senior staff officers only have to been in the ‘theater of operations’ for next to no time to collect ribbons/medals.

Response by SFC Mike Wilkins made Mar 29 at 2022 6:50 PM

SFC Mike Wilkins — Tue, 29 Mar 2022 18:50:59 -0400

The FBI lie to a criminal to get to the truth and what really happened during a commission of a crime. But a criminal lies so they don’t get punished be cause they committed a crime and don’t want to be punished. Telling the truth is never wrong.

Response by MSgt Joseph Townsend made Apr 3 at 2022 5:25 AM

MSgt Joseph Townsend — Sun, 03 Apr 2022 05:25:45 -0400

I don't think his infraction occurred while on active duty. His retirement pay should not be a factor.

Response by MSgt Tim Ulery made Apr 6 at 2022 12:16 AM

MSgt Tim Ulery — Wed, 06 Apr 2022 00:16:17 -0400

He never should have been convicted. That was a f**kin political clusterf**k.

Response by SGT John Lozynsky made Apr 6 at 2022 12:41 AM

SGT John Lozynsky — Wed, 06 Apr 2022 00:41:48 -0400

Flynn is NOT, and was NOT, a convicted felon. NEVER! This is an outrageous lie. Why do Flynn and Trump haters flood us with this crap?

United States v. Flynn was a criminal case in the United States District Court for the District of Columbia which was dismissed without any convictions in December 2020.

In June 2019, Flynn fired his initial counsel from the firm Covington and Burling and hired Sidney Powell. Powell moved to compel production of additional Brady material and newly discovered evidence in October 2019, which was denied by Sullivan in December 2019. Flynn then moved to withdraw his guilty plea in January 2020, claiming that the government had acted in bad faith and breached the plea agreement.

In May 2020, the United States Department of Justice (DOJ) filed a motion to dismiss the charge against Flynn with prejudice, asserting that it no longer believed it could prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Flynn had made false statements to the FBI or that the statements, even if false, were materially false in regards to the FBI's investigation.

In June 2020, the appeals court panel agreed with Flynn.

Response by 1LT John Farkas made Apr 6 at 2022 1:59 AM

1LT John Farkas — Wed, 06 Apr 2022 01:59:00 -0400

Illegal conviction he earned his pension

Response by SPC David Elzinga made Apr 6 at 2022 3:03 AM

SPC David Elzinga — Wed, 06 Apr 2022 03:03:02 -0400

Is he actually a felon or was he set up?

Response by CW2 Geoff Lachance made Apr 6 at 2022 6:29 AM

CW2 Geoff Lachance — Wed, 06 Apr 2022 06:29:17 -0400

Personally, I think the general was set up! I would not take away anything he has earned serving this great nation!

Response by SPC Brian Stephens made Apr 6 at 2022 11:58 AM

SPC Brian Stephens — Wed, 06 Apr 2022 11:58:39 -0400

Yes, he should. He was entrapped in a political crime we should not even have in this country by a corrupt FBI/DOJ deeply involved with the Hillary campaign. Full benefits should be restored.

Response by PO1 Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 6 at 2022 4:20 PM

PO1 Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 06 Apr 2022 16:20:30 -0400

He should be tried under the full weight of the law.

Response by PO1 Kyle Fallon made Apr 6 at 2022 8:44 PM

PO1 Kyle Fallon — Wed, 06 Apr 2022 20:44:55 -0400

I agree with you 100%

Response by PO1 Kyle Fallon made Apr 6 at 2022 9:54 PM

PO1 Kyle Fallon — Wed, 06 Apr 2022 21:54:33 -0400

No he should not. He has defended the U.S with Valor and vigor. <><

Response by SFC Kurt Brunken made Apr 7 at 2022 11:28 AM

SFC Kurt Brunken — Thu, 07 Apr 2022 11:28:20 -0400

What was he 'convicted' of? He did a plea deal for lying, then it was revoked, then he was pardoned then it was dropped. Im guessing if RallyPoint allowed it there would be alot more down thumbs on this post.

Response by GySgt Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 7 at 2022 2:56 PM

GySgt Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 07 Apr 2022 14:56:22 -0400

NO, he served honorably, his service is done he deserves his benefits, if done while in uniform yes but not after you accomplished your honorable service. Plus I would not believe the testimony of a FBI agent if they said the sun would come up in the east. They will say what ever the Democrats tell them to say and our Current Generals are the same way. DISGRACEFUL.

Response by Sara Lucas made Apr 7 at 2022 5:30 PM

Sara Lucas — Thu, 07 Apr 2022 17:30:27 -0400

This man has been subjected to enough harassment... By the government he fought to protect....leave him alone

Response by SFC Billy Todd made Apr 7 at 2022 5:35 PM

SFC Billy Todd — Thu, 07 Apr 2022 17:35:17 -0400

General Flynn actually isn't convicted felon , Gen Flynn was setup by your truly Obama Administration, CIA and FBI, do your research before you start throwing stones.

Response by CPL Kenneth Servello Jr made Apr 7 at 2022 6:02 PM

CPL Kenneth Servello Jr — Thu, 07 Apr 2022 18:02:03 -0400

Nope.

Response by SGT Denis Miller made Apr 7 at 2022 9:22 PM

SGT Denis Miller — Thu, 07 Apr 2022 21:22:49 -0400

Wrongfully entrapped by a corrupt politically driven FBI is no reason to go after his pension or rank.

Response by A1C Medrick "Rick" DeVaney made Apr 8 at 2022 6:22 AM

A1C Medrick "Rick" DeVaney — Fri, 08 Apr 2022 06:22:18 -0400

"\WHO Knows What Evil Lurks In The Hearts Of Men"?
Da Shadow DO.!!

Response by 1SG Matthew Aucompaugh made Apr 8 at 2022 8:17 AM

1SG Matthew Aucompaugh — Fri, 08 Apr 2022 08:17:51 -0400

I say leave the man alone. He did nothing wrong. It was the democrats who concocted it all up to smear Trump and anyone affiliated.

Response by PO1 David Hedenberg made Apr 8 at 2022 10:41 AM

PO1 David Hedenberg — Fri, 08 Apr 2022 10:41:08 -0400

Gen Flynn was and is still the victim of a political act by persons who were wishing to destroy the legally eleced president. The military has no place in this matter and he was pardoned and there is no longer reason to continue attacking him but to hate Trump. This question has no place on this site and should be removed.

Response by CPT Norman Ryan made Apr 8 at 2022 10:55 AM

CPT Norman Ryan — Fri, 08 Apr 2022 10:55:50 -0400

Where do you get your news? General Smith was NOT convicted of anything. His case was dismissed. Are you suggesting that his pension be revoked because you think he should have been convicted? What gives?

Response by CPT Norman Ryan made Apr 8 at 2022 10:58 AM

CPT Norman Ryan — Fri, 08 Apr 2022 10:58:19 -0400

Sorry, I meant to say General Flynn had not been convicted of anything.

Response by CW2 Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 8 at 2022 1:45 PM

CW2 Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 08 Apr 2022 13:45:54 -0400

Why don't we try to court martial General Milley? He failed his oath and conspired against a sitting president.

Response by Frank Leverett made Apr 8 at 2022 2:19 PM

Frank Leverett — Fri, 08 Apr 2022 14:19:43 -0400

So, a man who was lied about, lied to by law enforcement, and far worse, should be treated as guilty and just punished? Add to this, President Trump officially pardoned General Flynn, are you calling for double jeopardy? Calling for the US to say "nope, since we hate Trump for refusing to give up when he won, his pardons aren't valid?" Dangerous road that leads to tyranny!

Response by Lt Col Kenneth Irvin made Apr 8 at 2022 4:49 PM

Lt Col Kenneth Irvin — Fri, 08 Apr 2022 16:49:47 -0400

Gen Flynn was pardoned by President Trump - question is non sequitur.

Response by CPT Henry Parker made Apr 8 at 2022 5:21 PM

CPT Henry Parker — Fri, 08 Apr 2022 17:21:59 -0400

No. Gen Flynn is a political causality only. I now have little respect for the FBI and other abbreviated agencies CIA.....etc.

Response by CPT Henry Parker made Apr 8 at 2022 5:25 PM

CPT Henry Parker — Fri, 08 Apr 2022 17:25:03 -0400

To the best of my knowledge Gen. Flynn is not a convicted felon.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 9 at 2022 9:07 AM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 09 Apr 2022 09:07:30 -0400

I worked in a detention facility in TDCJ and we had several former military members incarcerated there. Some were retiree's and drawing their pensions. The way that their pensions are distributed, are into a secure account at a reduced rate while they are incarcerated. They earn those benefits through their military service, and no amount of Trump Derangement Syndrome you may put on display here is going to change that.

Response by MSgt John Longface made Apr 10 at 2022 11:06 AM

MSgt John Longface — Sun, 10 Apr 2022 11:06:42 -0400

The case was dropped by the prosecution against General l Michael Flynn. Not only that ,but General Flynn was pardoned by the President od the United States, who , by the way was the Commander in Chief.

Response by COL Einzel Ganger made Apr 10 at 2022 6:16 PM

COL Einzel Ganger — Sun, 10 Apr 2022 18:16:21 -0400

The Commander in Chief pardoned him. His felony is erased.

Response by SGT Joseph Yost made Apr 11 at 2022 3:22 PM

SGT Joseph Yost — Mon, 11 Apr 2022 15:22:16 -0400

No, double jeopardy.

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 12 at 2022 9:16 PM

MSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 12 Apr 2022 21:16:12 -0400

He wasn't convicted. The DOJ stopped the charges May 2020. https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/07/michael-flynn-criminal-case-dropped-by-justice-department.html

Justice Department drops criminal case against former Trump aide Michael Flynn

The Justice Department dropped its criminal case against former national security advisor Michael Flynn, who admitted to lying to FBI agents about his conversation with a Russian diplomat.

Response by CPL Bruce Ailiff made Apr 19 at 2022 6:53 AM

CPL Bruce Ailiff — Tue, 19 Apr 2022 06:53:19 -0400

Fake charges from a corrupt government should not be held up as anything real. It was all political theater!

Response by 1stSgt Tim Martin made May 7 at 2022 2:18 AM

1stSgt Tim Martin — Sat, 07 May 2022 02:18:56 -0400

Yes, if he is receiving retired pay, he is subject to the UCMJ, but did the offense occur while performing military duties? Example: You get a traffic ticket while off-duty and off base, should the military also punish you? No

Response by SGT(P) Private RallyPoint Member made May 8 at 2022 11:16 AM

SGT(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 08 May 2022 11:16:30 -0400

So he was convicted on making a false statement to law enforcement. That's all. Everything else was found to be false allegations towards him. So yes he should maintain his retirement benefits. And what should he be court martial on? Everything was found to be false allegations against him. Found out by the fbi, nsa, & private investigators.

Response by TSgt Jeffrey Shackleford made May 8 at 2022 12:11 PM

TSgt Jeffrey Shackleford — Sun, 08 May 2022 12:11:55 -0400

He was set up and was protecting his family! The ones that should be punished are the entirety of the DOJ!

Response by SGT Lenise Hamilton made May 8 at 2022 5:05 PM

SGT Lenise Hamilton — Sun, 08 May 2022 17:05:23 -0400

Why are we still talking about this "Clown", when we have bigger fish to fry, like the 2nd "Clown" name Putin!

Response by PO2 Gary Goodlund made May 8 at 2022 7:35 PM

PO2 Gary Goodlund — Sun, 08 May 2022 19:35:49 -0400

When the incumbent politicians can be separated from a military court martial, that member of the military may be able to expect a legitimate trial in that military court. That court, in the last few years has been influenced by the same political corruption that has tainted the civilian courts. The civilian courts have been corrupted by political protesters and political threats to the point where they are losing their credibility. How can law abiding military and civilian personnel effect a change to correct this???

Response by PFC Ray Aquila made May 8 at 2022 8:14 PM

PFC Ray Aquila — Sun, 08 May 2022 20:14:28 -0400

Ex-General (sic) Michael Flynn should be called back to service (can be done) face a Court Marshall.
Michael Flynn is due to testify before the 1/6 committee to answer charges for his roll in the
insurrection. And why he suggested to tRUMPF to not call his Brother head of the National Guard in DC area to DEPLOY during said insurrection.. Ex-General Michael Flynn is a Traitor to the US. Michael Flynn is a Disgrace to the uniform he wore. Michael Flynn is a total LOSER........

Response by PO1 Robbie Bell made May 8 at 2022 10:43 PM

PO1 Robbie Bell — Sun, 08 May 2022 22:43:47 -0400

The deep state should not have any power over any warrior. The politicians don’t deserve the respect owed an honorably discharged or retired veteran.

Response by SFC Darwin Maring made May 9 at 2022 1:51 PM

SFC Darwin Maring — Mon, 09 May 2022 13:51:54 -0400

What about General Betrayus and Col North. Do they have their pensions?

Response by SGT Earl Watters made May 10 at 2022 12:55 PM

SGT Earl Watters — Tue, 10 May 2022 12:55:49 -0400

general Flynn was set up by the democrats and yet are phony president and his son and let not forget about Hilliary get away with murder and the FBI covers for them dirty cops all of them GEN, Flynn served his country with honor give him all his pay Hunter has plenty to go around just ask the big GUY

Response by SGT Brian “Doc” Burry made May 10 at 2022 2:44 PM

SGT Brian “Doc” Burry — Tue, 10 May 2022 14:44:28 -0400

Total BS FBI/Comey scam entrapment! Great General deserves all the Veteran’s Benefits he earned!

Response by LCDR Ed Etzkorn made May 10 at 2022 6:24 PM

LCDR Ed Etzkorn — Tue, 10 May 2022 18:24:42 -0400

General Flynn is a patriot who spent the vast majority of his life serving his country, IMHO the FBI set out to entrap him in the hope he would offer up something on President Trump. Despicable conduct on the part of the FBI!

Response by SSG Jack Scott made May 10 at 2022 7:46 PM

SSG Jack Scott — Tue, 10 May 2022 19:46:57 -0400

Michael Flynn Was pardoned by the President so yes he should/will receive all benefits!

Response by SPC Vonnie Jones made May 10 at 2022 10:38 PM

SPC Vonnie Jones — Tue, 10 May 2022 22:38:42 -0400

If an enlisted person is a convicted and found guilty of a felon do they loose their pension, i do know that they can'treceivedisability benefits? I think if an enlisted person can loose a pension or rights to disability claim then General Flynn should be treated no different. To whom much is given much is required, heavy is the head that wears the crown. However I think any crimes that are committed after service should not be scrutinize under UCMJ unless their acts are treasonous.

Response by TSgt Robert Holmes made May 11 at 2022 6:50 PM

TSgt Robert Holmes — Wed, 11 May 2022 18:50:42 -0400

No! Leave Flynn alone. This was politically scam ran by a "dirty" FBI.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made May 11 at 2022 9:26 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 11 May 2022 21:26:37 -0400

It doesn’t matter, he was Pardoned.

Response by Sgt Ed Bowers made May 12 at 2022 10:16 AM

Sgt Ed Bowers — Thu, 12 May 2022 10:16:32 -0400

Gen. Flynn should be left alone. He should rightly be pardoned by the President and his retirement should not be hampered with.

Response by Sgt Ed Bowers made May 12 at 2022 10:19 AM

Sgt Ed Bowers — Thu, 12 May 2022 10:19:18 -0400

Lt Gen Flynn was basically screwed by the DOJ. Why? Because he was and still is a Trump supporter. Had I the power I would pardon him and he would get all the retirement benefits he has earned.

Response by PO2 John Drillock made May 12 at 2022 11:20 AM

PO2 John Drillock — Thu, 12 May 2022 11:20:44 -0400

Absolutely not. He was set up. Tell you what though, I can think of several civilian men and women who out to be in orange prison garb!!

Response by SPC Vincent Ferri made May 12 at 2022 1:06 PM

SPC Vincent Ferri — Thu, 12 May 2022 13:06:14 -0400

If the above are the governing regulations, then he should be subject to court martial, convicted and stripped of his pension.

Response by SSG Diane Johnson made May 13 at 2022 12:05 AM

SSG Diane Johnson — Fri, 13 May 2022 00:05:53 -0400

My take on this yes he should loose his retirement and be court-martialed. They would do it to an enlisted person. Officers have always been privileged they usually just get a slap on the hand where an enlisted person is given the maximum treatment.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made May 13 at 2022 5:37 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 13 May 2022 17:37:43 -0400

His charges never would have happened if he didn't work for Trump. Purely political.

For more see what's happening to Project Veritas. The FBI is compromised.

Response by SGT Nickolas Ortiz made May 14 at 2022 12:26 PM

SGT Nickolas Ortiz — Sat, 14 May 2022 12:26:36 -0400

Somewhat strange question… is it because he was a friend of President Trump or is it you hate felons? Does any other American that is convicted of a felony get punished again by losing the benefits he/she earned while in service?

Response by SPC Perry Gresham made May 15 at 2022 8:56 AM

SPC Perry Gresham — Sun, 15 May 2022 08:56:19 -0400

He should be given a metal.

Response by TSgt Douglas Greenwood made May 15 at 2022 9:31 AM

TSgt Douglas Greenwood — Sun, 15 May 2022 09:31:43 -0400

No, he was and is a good man. He got caught up in the feeding frenzy when Democrats wanted to oust/Impeach President Trump. It’s been proven that Democrats like, Hillary, Barrack, Soros, Schiff and many many more were guilty of a treasonous act. They’re still walking free and all should be in jail for what they did. The General served with distinction and honor, let him live in peace.

Response by LTC Mark Beattie made May 15 at 2022 9:21 PM

LTC Mark Beattie — Sun, 15 May 2022 21:21:32 -0400

Michael Flynn was railroaded by the “deep state,” which was afraid of what he knew of the intelligence system. I respect the man for his past service and is commitment to doing what is good for the country. He took a plea to protect his family.

Response by SSG David Angell made May 15 at 2022 9:24 PM

SSG David Angell — Sun, 15 May 2022 21:24:00 -0400

General Flynn was set up. He was part of Former President Trumps inner circle. So that left the lying FBI agents to do what ever was necessary to entrap General Flynn.
I hope when the next GOP President comes in, he/she cleans house. Starting with the FBI.
And if congress goes Republican, they can start cleaning house there, just as well as with the Senate>
So to answer your question, in this case yes.

Response by Cpl Tammy Hooper made May 18 at 2022 5:41 AM

Cpl Tammy Hooper — Wed, 18 May 2022 05:41:19 -0400

No, absolutely not. He served his time honorable he is entitled to his benefits until he dies.

Response by SSG Branyn Burkhart made May 18 at 2022 11:10 PM

SSG Branyn Burkhart — Wed, 18 May 2022 23:10:04 -0400

He received a full and unconditional pardon, so I’m thinking your question is irrelevant.

Response by 1SG Dale Vogel made May 23 at 2022 3:27 PM

1SG Dale Vogel — Mon, 23 May 2022 15:27:04 -0400

General Flynn did nothing wrong at all.
General Flynn was an FBI pawn set up because of his dedication to the United States.
The corrupt communist FBI should be tried, convicted and imprisoned.
This was a national scam and shame.

Response by Capt Michael Halpin made Jun 20 at 2022 11:18 AM

Capt Michael Halpin — Mon, 20 Jun 2022 11:18:06 -0400

When I retired I was told that my retirement pay could never be taken away from me, even if I committed a crime and was sentenced to life in prison.

Response by TSgt George Austin made Jun 20 at 2022 4:23 PM

TSgt George Austin — Mon, 20 Jun 2022 16:23:59 -0400

The FBI and justice dept are the biggest communist organizations in this country. CIA and other spooks are the underlying support. The general paid his dues. Leave him the f alone. Remember your oath when needed.

Response by TSgt George Austin made Jun 20 at 2022 4:28 PM

TSgt George Austin — Mon, 20 Jun 2022 16:28:16 -0400

The FBI and Justice dept are so overwhelming corrupt. Only communist democrats who have been blinded by their ability to see and know truth believe them.

Response by SFC Charles Dennis made Jun 20 at 2022 8:28 PM

SFC Charles Dennis — Mon, 20 Jun 2022 20:28:41 -0400

I am curious why you're asking this question. Would you mind explaining why you asked this question?

Response by SSG Jack Scott made Jun 20 at 2022 8:34 PM

SSG Jack Scott — Mon, 20 Jun 2022 20:34:37 -0400

Flynn is not a Convicted Felon he revived a full presidential pardon so he keeps his Benefits. You may disagree with the outcome but that is our Legal System and has been for over 200yrs. Ford pardoned Nixon!

Response by LTC Clayton Hill made Jun 22 at 2022 12:39 PM

LTC Clayton Hill — Wed, 22 Jun 2022 12:39:33 -0400

He was convicted by a partial, corrupt system. When the WH is re-taken, the president should definitely pardon him. Don't deny him of retirement benefits he earned. Shame on this federal government; they are the ones who should be jailed.

Response by PO3 Michael Allen Rossiter made Jun 23 at 2022 5:11 AM

PO3 Michael Allen Rossiter — Thu, 23 Jun 2022 05:11:07 -0400

Leave General Flynn's pay alone.
General Flynn & his family have paid too high a price already.
The FBI & military inteligence screwed him and his family over for no other reason than politics.

Response by SPC David Sigmon made Jun 23 at 2022 8:52 PM

SPC David Sigmon — Thu, 23 Jun 2022 20:52:09 -0400

Unpopular opinion, the FBI agents who decided to go after him should be imprisoned.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 23 at 2022 9:32 PM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 23 Jun 2022 21:32:12 -0400

Yes he should till the day he dies receive all his benefits. No, he should not be court-martialed.

Response by SGT Steven Wade made Jun 23 at 2022 10:20 PM

SGT Steven Wade — Thu, 23 Jun 2022 22:20:10 -0400

fbi is now a communista organizations this is nothing new

Response by SGT Mike Judge made Jun 24 at 2022 3:23 AM

SGT Mike Judge — Fri, 24 Jun 2022 03:23:28 -0400

I thought he was pardoned?

Response by AN Richard Russell made Jun 24 at 2022 1:07 PM

AN Richard Russell — Fri, 24 Jun 2022 13:07:53 -0400

No! Flynn is a treasonous traitor to America by breaking his oath to the US Constitution!

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 25 at 2022 1:31 AM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 25 Jun 2022 01:31:19 -0400

Bill Clinton was impeached in congress and the senate. He still gets his Penton. And title.so there is the double standard again

Response by SFC Ruben Martinez made Jul 11 at 2022 9:39 PM

SFC Ruben Martinez — Mon, 11 Jul 2022 21:39:52 -0400

Hearing Flynn pleading the 5th was sickening. They were simple questions. This is someone who at one point or another in his military career handed down UCMJ punishment to soldiers. Yet he sits there and pleads the 5th on simple questions. “Do you believe in the piece full transition of power In the Unites States of America?” And he pleaded the 5th…

Response by PO1 Terry Scott made Jul 12 at 2022 5:24 PM

PO1 Terry Scott — Tue, 12 Jul 2022 17:24:38 -0400

Wasn’t that overturned?

Response by 1SG Frank Rocha made Aug 10 at 2022 12:12 AM

1SG Frank Rocha — Wed, 10 Aug 2022 00:12:43 -0400

He was pardoned so not a convicted felon.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 10 at 2022 9:34 PM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 10 Aug 2022 21:34:01 -0400

Lol. GTFOH

Response by Col John Madison made Aug 10 at 2022 11:10 PM

Col John Madison — Wed, 10 Aug 2022 23:10:05 -0400

This whole issue is much more than a question of a felony committed by a flag officer, it's really a question reflecting what the abuse of political power has done within our nation, and our military. Anyone who has dealt with the interrogation side of law understands the tricky and disguised nature of the process...and it is ugly and CAN be abused. And it was for General Flynn. But...if you're a dyed in the wool Democrat, you'd likely not care a fig about that, as long as your political perversions are upheld. The breadth and depth of the evil of the swamp, which is still there and churning, should alarm all red-blooded Americans.

Back in the day, when filling out the SF-86 for a security clearance, some of the key questions (paraphrased) were whether you were a member of the communist party or any other organization which sought to overthrow the United States; behavior which involved moral turpitude to include homosexuality; use of illegal substances, to include marijuana; and personal issues of bad credit. Well...well...well... it seems most of that is passé now, and most members of Congress or other politicians couldn't pass to get a basic SECRET clearance. But decades ago, the FBI and other alphabet agencies had rank and file members who were squared away, whom you could trust and respect. Those days are long gone. When we can have the pathetic actions of a former Secretary of State keep beaucoup classified documents on her personal computer/server, letting the whole world know U.S. intentions (and they did), we have trouble in River City, folks. This mis-administration has weaponized all major agencies of the U.S. government solely for political purposes. If justice is to be fair and proper, it must be dealt equally across the board, for all parties, all races, all ethnicities and sexes. This regime no longer supports the U.S. Bill of Rights, troops. We are seeing nothing less than tyranny, institutional immorality and a devolution of the American system of jurisprudence. The IRS has and will continue to be weaponized with 87,000 more agents recruited. We are no longer a sovereign nation with no borders. If you believe all is well with America, you are either deluded or so stoned you cannot open a sack of chips for your munchies.

Response by Lt Col Steve Bonning made Aug 14 at 2022 2:32 PM

Lt Col Steve Bonning — Sun, 14 Aug 2022 14:32:06 -0400

Opinions are nice but what do the regs, laws say? That should be the first question

Response by SMSgt Philip Kluberdanz made Sep 6 at 2022 10:38 PM

SMSgt Philip Kluberdanz — Tue, 06 Sep 2022 22:38:05 -0400

The General was a victim of politically motivated lawfare. Prosecutorial misconduct ate the very least. Also no small thing - he was pardoned by President Trump.

Response by SFC David Reid, M.S, PHR, SHRM-CP, DTM made Sep 7 at 2022 4:39 PM

SFC David Reid, M.S, PHR, SHRM-CP, DTM — Wed, 07 Sep 2022 16:39:52 -0400

Thanks for posting this factual piece of information.

Response by SFC Allan Viernes made Sep 8 at 2022 4:50 AM

SFC Allan Viernes — Thu, 08 Sep 2022 04:50:24 -0400

After watching what has transpired over the last 2 years ! There is a double standard!! As I don’t agree about lying to the FBI or anyone, General Flynn is a scapegoat! I believe his pension should not be affected and he should have full benefit of it.

Response by SGT Daniel Petitt made Sep 8 at 2022 12:05 PM

SGT Daniel Petitt — Thu, 08 Sep 2022 12:05:07 -0400

Michael Flynn should be called back to active duty & then be court-martialed stripping away all retirement pay & benefits. This should include all VA benefits. Flynn is a total disgrace to the uniform & does not deserve to be called General.

Response by PO3 Pamala McBrayer made Sep 8 at 2022 12:43 PM

PO3 Pamala McBrayer — Thu, 08 Sep 2022 12:43:29 -0400

Maybe that implies he should have been given due process rights and free government representation to defend himself…instead of cooperating with questioning VOLUNTARILY…to his own detriment. I see 5th Amendment issues left and right. Most Federal employees are covered by Weingarten Rule.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 8 at 2022 9:40 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 08 Sep 2022 21:40:35 -0400

Wrongly convicted by the Junta, charges dropped with prejudice, and conviction vacated. You don't punish an innocent man.

Response by SFC David Reid, M.S, PHR, SHRM-CP, DTM made Sep 9 at 2022 1:23 PM

SFC David Reid, M.S, PHR, SHRM-CP, DTM — Fri, 09 Sep 2022 13:23:07 -0400

I think he has been treated with kid gloves.

Response by SSG Jack Scott made Sep 9 at 2022 6:05 PM

SSG Jack Scott — Fri, 09 Sep 2022 18:05:58 -0400

Stop posting this He received a full legal pardon!

Response by SFC David Reid, M.S, PHR, SHRM-CP, DTM made Sep 9 at 2022 6:46 PM

SFC David Reid, M.S, PHR, SHRM-CP, DTM — Fri, 09 Sep 2022 18:46:31 -0400

No he should not.

Response by PO3 Rick Lewis made Sep 9 at 2022 9:55 PM

PO3 Rick Lewis — Fri, 09 Sep 2022 21:55:18 -0400

He should be hung!

Response by SSG Brian G. made Sep 10 at 2022 12:13 AM

SSG Brian G. — Sat, 10 Sep 2022 00:13:37 -0400

I will say this ONCE for the ignorant folks. Flynn was NEVER convicted of anything. Not in a court of law. He was then pardoned by presidential decree. So no, he is not and never was a convict or felon. As such he loses nothing and is not subject to UCMJ actions.

Response by CPT Scott Batz made Sep 10 at 2022 1:55 PM

CPT Scott Batz — Sat, 10 Sep 2022 13:55:00 -0400

He was pardoned for his crime in 2020 by President Trump. Still I believe he should face a court martial. If any other retired soldier Accused and Convicted would lose pay and benefits Gen Flynn should be treated the same as the rest of the military would. He is a disgrace to the Army Uniform !

Response by SP5 Richard Barton made Sep 10 at 2022 7:47 PM

SP5 Richard Barton — Sat, 10 Sep 2022 19:47:41 -0400

UCMJ should be applied to all ranks as well as the Social Security policies. It is my understanding that under Social Security policy, if a person commits a felony, he loses his benefits for the remainder of his life. A general should not receive special privileges. If he does, it sure will tie my colon in a knot.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 10 at 2022 7:55 PM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 10 Sep 2022 19:55:28 -0400

He was pardoned

Response by PVT Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 10 at 2022 8:47 PM

PVT Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 10 Sep 2022 20:47:04 -0400

We need to remember this when all our elected fall. Anyone who supported what they have done.
Even George Bush Sr. should have been, that is where GMO foods came into play with a free ride,
no testing required compliments to a proclamation in 1992.
And the world trade center was a hoax! I was standing in the gate at area 51 when that happened. Returned back to our motor pool at stand down. 28 minutes later we were watching a DVD taken by the French Fire Dept. Those were our Military aircraft painted grey, no windows, no marking, no call numbers, and a large fuel cell mounted under the wings. Radar shoes no air traffic in the area for over 100 miles. Right Infront of the busiest airport in the world. Our Military aircraft were all dispatched North for drills, how covenant is that?

Response by MSG David Densmore made Sep 10 at 2022 9:14 PM

MSG David Densmore — Sat, 10 Sep 2022 21:14:10 -0400

NO.
In the last few years I've come to realize that if the Feds want to get you- they will. I remember hearing in the past "The FBI always gets their man". Now I can see how they do it. They have millions, even billions of $$$ to spend to investigate you, agents at their beck and call, and even a rich person has a comparative pittance to defend yourself. Part of what happened to General Flynn was he went broke, then the Feds threatened more. What's a person to do?
They question you about events that happened X years or months ago, and you make an honest mistake in what you tell them, (I can't remember everything from a week ago, much less months or years), and now they have a basis for charging you with some sort of false testimony to the FBI. If they don't like you, they're going to get you.
I think it's why so many believe that the DOJ, FBI have become weaponized.

Response by SSgt Cynthia Hamilton made Sep 11 at 2022 7:49 PM

SSgt Cynthia Hamilton — Sun, 11 Sep 2022 19:49:10 -0400

Here's the continuing efforts at subverting our democracy that the dishonorable Flynn is up to near Spokane wa, today.

https://jerrysindivisible.substack.com/p/flynns-reawaken-america-tour-comes?s=r&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email

Flynn's Reawaken America Tour Comes to the Inland Northwest

The Christian Nationalist Message is Loud and Clear

Response by SGM Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 13 at 2022 9:22 PM

SGM Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 13 Sep 2022 21:22:08 -0400

Those are mutually exclusive issues. That's not even a legitimate question. If you asked "can he lose the benefits?"then that could be legit and the answer would be no.

Response by FN David Shaffer made Sep 13 at 2022 9:54 PM

FN David Shaffer — Tue, 13 Sep 2022 21:54:47 -0400

What will he be court-martialed for? He was already tried for lying to the FBI and regardless of personal feelings, he may just be protected by double jeopardy protections.

Response by CPO Cory Cook made Sep 14 at 2022 5:34 PM

CPO Cory Cook — Wed, 14 Sep 2022 17:34:57 -0400

By all means yes. He abused his reputation and position to promote treason and disruption of our country, government, and welfare of our nation's people. He doesn't deserve the respect of his disservice to this nation's people. Lock his jackass up and destroy the key.

Response by SPC Daniel Thomas Smithson, B.Sc., M.A., M.A. made Sep 18 at 2022 9:13 PM

SPC Daniel Thomas Smithson, B.Sc., M.A., M.A. — Sun, 18 Sep 2022 21:13:53 -0400

I have always been of the understanding that convicted felons lose their military retirement benefits.

Response by LT Daniel Bell, USN(ret) made Oct 6 at 2022 5:33 PM

LT Daniel Bell, USN(ret) — Thu, 06 Oct 2022 17:33:46 -0400

He earned his retirement and benefits before he was convicted of a crime, so he should keep what he earned. Why should he be punished for being a great leader while in uniform and a competent commander? Too many are quick to judge with felons. Sometimes people make mistakes. Some are small and some are egregious, but they are still mistakes. Shouldn't we give folks a chance to redeem themselves or beat them down till they are dirt?

Response by PV2 Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 14 at 2022 12:38 PM

PV2 Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 14 Oct 2022 12:38:25 -0400

If you think that Flynn should suffer further political targeting then you must have missed the truth about why he was hit with criminal charges in the first place. The FBI entrapped him to get at Trump. That is why dozens of FBI agents are coming out as whistle blowers about how corrupted their agency has become.

Flynn was hit for being a solid person in Trump's orbit in order to get him to flip on Trump.

The Russian collusion narrative was the precursor to this political hit job. The FBI also was seeking to pay Christopher Steele for evidence in his claims (paid for by the Clinton Campaign, which was proven in court and a fine was paid by the DNC and Clinton's campaign) to the tune of 1 million dollar to produce evidence.
The Steele dossier was peddled to the FBI by the Clinton campaign through C. Steele.

Flynn was hit for "lying to the FBI" even though the FBI lied about their tact, their evidence, and was the only person to get hit with the Logan Act. While John Kerry was working with the Iranian leadership about "wait until we get rid of Trump and we will reinstate the Iran deal". Far worse than what Flynn did and Kerry is still allowed in this administration.

Flynn was a hit job. Hurt his family. Put him in jail. They stopped him from raising money on platforms run by left leaning people. It bankrupted him just to get at Trump.

And you, as a soldier yourself, want him to suffer more because you haven't taken the time to actually seek the truth on this topic? Do better please. Turn off the corporate press, the Pravda media of the left, and actually read.
See: John Durham investigation

Response by Sgt Ed Beal made Oct 14 at 2022 3:09 PM

Sgt Ed Beal — Fri, 14 Oct 2022 15:09:12 -0400

The FBI has lost ALL credibility in my opinion time to wipe the department and start over it has proven to be partisan from what I have seen in the press. CTL alt delete the entire establishment and start new. Oops now I probably on their watch list

Response by Sgt Randy Morley made Oct 14 at 2022 5:56 PM

Sgt Randy Morley — Fri, 14 Oct 2022 17:56:59 -0400

Against all enemies, foreign and domestic. Isnt that what it says?? Is he required to tell the truth to a domestic enemy...or is it his duty to obfuscate?? He should keep his pension and retired rank.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 15 at 2022 9:29 AM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 15 Oct 2022 09:29:58 -0400

This is related. Soldier murders his family while on active duty and is acquitted twice in civilian courts. Retires. New evidence comes up, Army brings him back to active duty to charge him under UCMJ for the murders to avoid double jeopardy.

IMO It’d be a real stunt to also charge him under UCMJ. No doubt he is now a criminal, but the crime isn’t aggresses enough to keep stacking on.

https://thecrimewire.com/true-crime/staff-sergeant-tim-hennis-murder

The Eastburn Family Murders and The Three Trials of Staff Sergeant Timothy Hennis

Is Tim Hennis guilty of murdering Katie Eastburn and two of her daughters or is he a victim of a prosecutor's witch hunt?

Response by Lt Col Timothy Cassidy-Curtis made Oct 15 at 2022 11:49 AM

Lt Col Timothy Cassidy-Curtis — Sat, 15 Oct 2022 11:49:35 -0400

According to Wikipedia: "Flynn received a presidential pardon on November 25, 2020. Judge Sullivan ... dismissed the criminal case against Flynn as moot on December 8, 2020."

One thing that disturbs me is the politization of law enforcement. I don't want to hear "every side does it," because it seems like there is One side, in particular, that appears to particularly fond of this tactic. Law enforcement is, and must always be, politically neutral; however, the current perception, particularly towards the federal level, looks like anything but, and I don't see many people with the authority to make things different make much effort to do so.

So, the bottom line is whether or not legal actions against General Flynn were politically motivated. If so, then the whole question needs to be turned on its side because we've got another problem.

Response by CPT Stephen Feldman made Oct 15 at 2022 8:50 PM

CPT Stephen Feldman — Sat, 15 Oct 2022 20:50:26 -0400

I have read the responses, I don't understand what you think you know or the positions you are taking! He, Ltg Flynn confessed to lying to the FBI. Not once but twice! The lies had to do with his communication with the Russians. He said he didn't talk to them but the US produced moving pictures of a dinner where he sat next to Putin in Russia. He, as was pointed out is subject to the UCMJ as long as he takes his retirement. The only reason he is not in jail right now is that Donald J. Trump pardoned him for his crimes. That doesn't change the fact that he is guilty. If someone can lose their VA disability for committing a felony, surely should for admitting he was guilty of a crime which is a felony!

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 15 at 2022 11:24 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 15 Oct 2022 23:24:00 -0400

POLITICS. Pay attention to it. Flynn is on the wrong side of the Establishment. Check out what the other side gets away with……dig deeper and do some more research. The “Establishment” doesn’t like opposition and will black ball, discredit, and/or lie about anyone that goes against them…hence General Flynn and former President Trump. The Establishment is the enemy of the people.

Response by MSG James McGuire made Oct 16 at 2022 1:20 PM

MSG James McGuire — Sun, 16 Oct 2022 13:20:20 -0400

A presidential pardon refers to the president's use of his power under the U.S. Constitution to grant formal forgiveness to anyone for the commission of any federal crime. Unlike a commutation, presidential pardons also wipe away all of the "disabilities" (collateral consequences) which are imposed along with a federal criminal conviction. Pardons are granted generally based on the application of the presidential pardon rules to your particular case and after a positive recommendation from the Office of the Pardon Attorney.

This means that only a presidential pardon can fully restore your civil rights if you previously were convicted of a federal crime. A Presidential pardon will allow you to vote, own a firearm, receive student aid, and participate in other government programs which otherwise bar convicted people. Presidential pardons can also alter any fines, penalties, or restitution that you were ordered to pay as part of your criminal sentence.

Response by MSG James McGuire made Oct 16 at 2022 1:22 PM

MSG James McGuire — Sun, 16 Oct 2022 13:22:06 -0400

General Michael Flynn was granted a FULL Presidential Pardon. What that means is delineated here.
A presidential pardon refers to the president's use of his power under the U.S. Constitution to grant formal forgiveness to anyone for the commission of any federal crime. Unlike a commutation, presidential pardons also wipe away all of the "disabilities" (collateral consequences) which are imposed along with a federal criminal conviction. Pardons are granted generally based on the application of the presidential pardon rules to your particular case and after a positive recommendation from the Office of the Pardon Attorney.

This means that only a presidential pardon can fully restore your civil rights if you previously were convicted of a federal crime. A Presidential pardon will allow you to vote, own a firearm, receive student aid, and participate in other government programs which otherwise bar convicted people. Presidential pardons can also alter any fines, penalties, or restitution that you were ordered to pay as part of your criminal sentence.

Response by SGT Dave Hamilton made Oct 16 at 2022 7:10 PM

SGT Dave Hamilton — Sun, 16 Oct 2022 19:10:28 -0400

He’s a hero who deserves all accolades and his case should be the defining factor in disbanding the FSB oh oops I mean the FBI communist organization. Power corrupts and they are beyond a completely corrupt and paid for enforcement wing of the mentally ill left. Time to disband em and recreate a neutral organization that enforces law equally regardless of party. In fact the current FBI regime should be hung in the main square as an example of corruption and the consequences of unequal enforcement of fake laws.

Response by LTC Adam Janczewski made Oct 16 at 2022 10:37 PM

LTC Adam Janczewski — Sun, 16 Oct 2022 22:37:47 -0400

It would be pure vengeance and possibly double jeopardy

Response by PO3 Yvette Kelly made Oct 17 at 2022 7:48 AM

PO3 Yvette Kelly — Mon, 17 Oct 2022 07:48:31 -0400

Yes, he is a felon and a disgrace to the Constitution.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 17 at 2022 11:00 AM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 17 Oct 2022 11:00:46 -0400

Who keeps stirring this pot of turd soup?

Response by GySgt Steven Ward made Oct 18 at 2022 5:42 AM

GySgt Steven Ward — Tue, 18 Oct 2022 05:42:25 -0400

I know a sex offender (felon) collecting VA benefits - why not him

Response by MSG Raymond Davis made Oct 19 at 2022 11:22 AM

MSG Raymond Davis — Wed, 19 Oct 2022 11:22:48 -0400

I remind myself of the way the government handled the case against LTC Oliver North. With that in mind I say no charges against the General. His situation was a "shit" show from the get go.

Response by CPL Edward Barton made Oct 20 at 2022 8:40 AM

CPL Edward Barton — Thu, 20 Oct 2022 08:40:32 -0400

I
Once you are out of any military service. Any pensions and benefits should not even be messed with.
They did their job in the first place while in the military. After that they should enjoy their benefits of retirement.
This is a dangerous thing if you’re denied what you have worked so hard for.
And I don’t see many who are willing to join the military. Stay in the military if you’re discriminated against on whether they did anything or not once they transitioned out of the military.

Response by SGT Ken Kyle made Oct 20 at 2022 5:31 PM

SGT Ken Kyle — Thu, 20 Oct 2022 17:31:50 -0400

He was pardoned by former Pres. Trump for those felonies. But, now that he is actively facilitating the training of a terrorist organization, the "Proud Boys", some of whom are currently facing seditious conspiracy trials as a result of the Jan 6 Insurrection, he should be prosecuted as well for sedition. As should any active duty members that support the movement to turn America into a fascist regime.

Response by PO1 Mike Wallace made Oct 26 at 2022 7:35 PM

PO1 Mike Wallace — Wed, 26 Oct 2022 19:35:51 -0400

The question is whether he lied and given the follow-up that was done. The collusion case of Trump and Russia has fallen apart and the FBI has been shown to be complicit in creating the hoax. Even the fbi tried to drop the case but was blocked.
This case case has more tentacles that a jellyfish and believing it's cut and dried is silly.

Response by Sgt Robert Elliott made Oct 28 at 2022 3:20 AM

Sgt Robert Elliott — Fri, 28 Oct 2022 03:20:53 -0400

Being dishonorable and being framed by certain people in the government purely for political reasons are two different things. He was punished for associating with our President, Donald J. Trump. Otherwise, we never would have heard about him. Had he not served President Trump, no one would know his name. Nothing but liberal politics as usual! May God help you if you associated with him. After all, he tweeted and hurt their sensitive widdle feewings! Grow up, Libtards! He's been out of office for almost two years and they still can't let it go. OK, I'll get down off the soapbox and put it back in the closet!

Response by PO2 David McNamara made Nov 17 at 2022 8:01 AM

PO2 David McNamara — Thu, 17 Nov 2022 08:01:54 -0500

What is this with people trying to destroy someone else's life, ruin their family, and subject people to double jeopardy? There are reasons why the Constitution was designed to protect people from endless prosecutions and fines. Shouldn't people who try to subvert the Constitution be prosecuted for subversion, and potentially treason?

Response by SSgt Jeffrey Weisman made Nov 17 at 2022 8:11 AM

SSgt Jeffrey Weisman — Thu, 17 Nov 2022 08:11:25 -0500

The FBI turned the info around 4 Gen Flynn! Hshould've NEVER BEEN TAKEN 2 COURT! IT WAS ALL A SET-UP 2 GET MR TRUMP, HIS ADVISORS, 2 GIVE UP THEIR GHOST & GET DA PUCK OUTTA THAT PLACE THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN!?

Response by SSgt Kevin Peterson made Nov 17 at 2022 8:26 AM

SSgt Kevin Peterson — Thu, 17 Nov 2022 08:26:52 -0500

no benefits - yes court-martialed

Response by SMSgt Bob Wilson made Nov 17 at 2022 10:22 AM

SMSgt Bob Wilson — Thu, 17 Nov 2022 10:22:58 -0500

If Michael Flynn was a Master Sergeant, would we be having this conversation. Personally, I find this is apples and oranges. Let us court-martial everyone who is retired and gets a DUI.

Response by COL Thomas McGrath made Nov 17 at 2022 12:30 PM

COL Thomas McGrath — Thu, 17 Nov 2022 12:30:54 -0500

OBE. Trump pardoned Flynn

Response by CSM Richard Montcalm made Nov 18 at 2022 8:49 AM

CSM Richard Montcalm — Fri, 18 Nov 2022 08:49:51 -0500

Why should he be prosecuted when Petreaus didn’t get court martial for sleeping with a subordinate? Especially when he destroyed junior officers for doing the same thing? As far as I know Flynn served honorably while on Active Duty This smacks of double jeopardy even if it is in the regulations. Remember that the regulations are aCommander’s guideline- they aren’t’ written in stone. Just because you CAN doesn’t mean you SHOULD.

Response by 1SG Raymond M Baker Jr made Nov 19 at 2022 7:23 AM

1SG Raymond M Baker Jr — Sat, 19 Nov 2022 07:23:57 -0500

No, because the charges were bogus, brought by the WOKE Democrats as they tear down our great country! The Democrats were on a fishing expedition!!!!

Response by SSgt Bill Evans made Nov 19 at 2022 7:45 AM

SSgt Bill Evans — Sat, 19 Nov 2022 07:45:33 -0500

I have NEVER agreed that a retiree should have their retirement pay held hostage by the UCMJ. In this case, he brought dishonor to his Unit and his Service while entertaining a whore reporter. I think the damage his actions caused his personal life are enough already and I don't believe that the UCMJ should apply to anyone after they leave the Military, Can someone explain the need for that (other than the Feds to be able to punish you if they see fit)??

Response by COL Donn Richards made Nov 19 at 2022 9:28 AM

COL Donn Richards — Sat, 19 Nov 2022 09:28:36 -0500

The whole thing was a political witch hunt. Who knows what Flynn did or didn't do. Let him keep his pension.

Response by SrA Don Oberlies made Nov 20 at 2022 11:32 AM

SrA Don Oberlies — Sun, 20 Nov 2022 11:32:01 -0500

He still represents the united state of America and should be penalized for any wrongdoing!

Response by LCDR Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 20 at 2022 11:56 AM

LCDR Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 20 Nov 2022 11:56:29 -0500

He should be brought back on active duty immediately, tried for treason under the UCMJ, and sent to Ft. Leavenworth, KS for life if convicted - period.

Response by COL Victor Hagan made Nov 20 at 2022 1:24 PM

COL Victor Hagan — Sun, 20 Nov 2022 13:24:49 -0500

If the crime didn't occur while he was on active duty then I don't believe his pension should be impacted. However, I don't believe he deserves a pass for lying to the FBI. As a retired general officers, he knew that he was committing a crime by lying to federal agents. He also knew that he was breaking the law by not registering as a lobbyist for a foreign country. Especially in matters that weren't aligned with US policy.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 20 at 2022 9:52 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 20 Nov 2022 21:52:22 -0500

I have followed this for years. The FBI was running a "compromised " operation at best. At worst, using its authority for political purposes. Flynn should not have any entitlement be even considered to be taken away.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 21 at 2022 1:10 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 21 Nov 2022 13:10:03 -0500

HELL NO... he is a conspirator insurrectionist who should be locked up.

Response by Sgt Ed Bowers made Nov 22 at 2022 8:50 AM

Sgt Ed Bowers — Tue, 22 Nov 2022 08:50:40 -0500

Lt. Gen Flynn served this country with honor and has EARNED every benefit that the Army offers to retired members. His military life and his "political life" are two very separate things. In addition he was screwed by the FBI and the DOJ.

Response by Lt Col Robert Van Hee made Nov 22 at 2022 12:18 PM

Lt Col Robert Van Hee — Tue, 22 Nov 2022 12:18:39 -0500

I thought he was pardoned? If he was pardoned, there's no issue. How could he be court martialed? What would be the UCMJ charge?

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 22 at 2022 12:19 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 22 Nov 2022 12:19:37 -0500

I'm not seeing where the FBI agents blatantly lied to Flynn. Law enforcement is allowed to mislead suspects during questioning, and the use of undercover agents is considered lawful ( provided they are not instigating or recruiting others to commit a crime). These are forms of lying, but are permitted regardless of a suspect social, economic, military, or political status. That is why the is the fifth amendment and that the suspect has the right to their attorney being present to offer counsel during questioning. Having achieved the rank of Lieutenant General, I would expect him to have the wits to avoid anything as muddy as the politics of 2020. Furthermore, he should have been well aware of the importance of keeping all interactions with foreign citizens, especially dignitaries above the table.He was the National Security advisor, Micheal Flynn knew better then dabble in anything that might appear the least but shady. Rank does not excuse misdeeds, rather the higher an individuals rank the more strictly they must be held accountable. With increasingly less leniency, and increasing more sever consequences. To do otherwise only encourages, and cultivates corruption.

Response by PVT Mark Whitcomb made Nov 22 at 2022 6:14 PM

PVT Mark Whitcomb — Tue, 22 Nov 2022 18:14:34 -0500

If you can't do the time..... then don't do the crime....If he is convicted, sorry, the choice was his. he made his bed. he has to deal with what follows

Response by SFC James High made Nov 23 at 2022 9:33 AM

SFC James High — Wed, 23 Nov 2022 09:33:51 -0500

I might be mistaken, but only a Court-Martial can take away a Retiree's pension, rank, and/or awards & decorations earned during active service. So if the General has not been Court-Martialed then none of those things can be done. Conviction of a crime (felony or not) is not automatic grounds for loss of pension and other military rights. For a Court Martial to be convened, the act of lying to the Feds has to be a felony under the UCMJ and not the Civilian justice system.

Response by 1LT Voyle Smith made Nov 25 at 2022 8:05 PM

1LT Voyle Smith — Fri, 25 Nov 2022 20:05:23 -0500

LG Flynn served honorably for many years. His conviction in my opinion was purely political. I met the gentleman when he a Colonel in Military Intelligence. He had served honorably to the time and continued to serve honorably until his retirement.

Response by Cpl Peter Cormican made Nov 27 at 2022 6:10 AM

Cpl Peter Cormican — Sun, 27 Nov 2022 06:10:22 -0500

I can give an opinion but that’s what it is. I have no legal knowledge of what should or should not happen to General Flynn. He served his time, honorably. After that was his choice. His pension was earned already. I do know that there are skeletons in everyone’s closet and some are buried pretty good and some are not. He should have never accepted the position knowing something his son did could have compromised his position. He should have been smarter and covered his flanks because politics NEVER has your back.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 27 at 2022 9:59 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 27 Nov 2022 09:59:06 -0500

And if they dig deeper, there's possibility of collusion with Russia (playing with Russia means China, North Korea have a finger in the ie as well) to unlawfully influence U.S. elections. Something that a senior Russian official has now stated, and Putin has not censored or denied. Flynn knowing lied to FBI about close ties to Russian government officials, to protect his employment that involved access to top secret military information. He built the gallows and tied his own noose, let him hang. Wearing the uniform does not, and should not shield anyone from the law. And the higher the rank the higher the standards, and the more severe the consequences. If you know the rules, and break them, the consequences is all on you.

Response by SMSgt Patrick LaDue made Nov 27 at 2022 10:04 PM

SMSgt Patrick LaDue — Sun, 27 Nov 2022 22:04:41 -0500

He was set up and kept from being the investigation head and from finding all the dirt from the previous administration. Forced to plead guilty to save his family from financial ruin
A game of hard ball... A hero ruined for politics...

Response by CPL T.A. Nelson made Nov 28 at 2022 12:12 PM

CPL T.A. Nelson — Mon, 28 Nov 2022 12:12:07 -0500

It is UCMJ, he should be subject as anyone else...

Response by CWO3 Robert Fong made Dec 22 at 2022 11:52 AM

CWO3 Robert Fong — Thu, 22 Dec 2022 11:52:42 -0500

SGT, Gen Flynn is in fact a victim of the Administrative State and was in fact framed. The President pardoned him and therefore he is not a convicted felon and is entitled to his retirement benefits and pay. Also, I would not think any Judge Advocate or Convening Authority would do an Article 32 much less a Court Martial. Gen Flynn's entire case was nothing but a national travesty and an attempt to undermine an incoming President.

Response by CSM Darieus ZaGara made Dec 24 at 2022 8:14 AM

CSM Darieus ZaGara — Sat, 24 Dec 2022 08:14:02 -0500

While I don’t agree with being punished twice, there has to be precedence along with regulation. I do know of several persons who were tried, demoted and a loss of certain benefits-Officer and enlisted.

So I say that the case review, regulation and precedence.

I know this sounds like a cop-out.

Response by SN Walt Boyer made Dec 25 at 2022 9:03 AM

SN Walt Boyer — Sun, 25 Dec 2022 09:03:26 -0500

I find it hard to understand how someone can be persecuted for a "crime" that never occured. The FBI had a narrative that General Flynn did not agree with and was found guilty for the "crime" of not going along with the narrative. I believe, because of the anti-Trump coup that was taking place, General Flynns full rank and honor should be restored. The leadership in our intelligence agancies are corrupt and act in proven unconstitutional ways. I swore an oath to honor and protect our Constitution, which never expired. Understanding the very document that we pledge our lives to is important when you want to understand just how out of control our Bureaucratic deep state really is. Merry Christmas and God Bless

Response by SGT Kevin Gardner made Dec 25 at 2022 11:54 AM

SGT Kevin Gardner — Sun, 25 Dec 2022 11:54:20 -0500

General Flynn was never convicted. He was forced to sight a plea deal on the threat that if he did not the FBI would insight his son.

From a legal and policy point of view, encouraging the FBI to misuse its legitimate authority to investigate past crimes, solely to create future crimes is both immoral and illegal. That is why Congress added the word material to its statute.

Because Flynn's answers were not material to what the FBI said it was investigating –- a violation of a never-used law, the Logan Act, that prohibits private citizens from negotiating with foreign governments -- they did not constitute a crime.

What the FBI and the department of justice in effect did is called entrapment.

But I do see your point, the FBI and the DOJ should be allowed to go after anyone for being a Trump supporter and or work directly for Trump because those people don’t deserve constitutional protections. Only people like you who are not Trump supporters deserve constitutional protections.

Response by SP5 Norman Binder made Jan 4 at 2023 2:41 PM

SP5 Norman Binder — Wed, 04 Jan 2023 14:41:50 -0500

Possibly some of the troops under his command liked him. Presently, I don't think traitors are worth the discussion, and don't deserve anything.

Response by SGT Ken Bell made Jan 19 at 2023 10:32 PM

SGT Ken Bell — Thu, 19 Jan 2023 22:32:58 -0500

Give the man his benefits! Comey admitted to Flynn’s entrapment; corruption can’t win.

Response by James Miller made Jan 26 at 2023 1:40 PM

James Miller — Thu, 26 Jan 2023 13:40:49 -0500

President Trump pardoned his former national security adviser Michael T. Flynn. No conviction on record.

Response by SGT Timothy Posemato made Jan 28 at 2023 1:52 PM

SGT Timothy Posemato — Sat, 28 Jan 2023 13:52:02 -0500

Gen Flynn served honorably, more than I can say about many politicians. He was a scapegoat and was used in a very wrong way. Yeah, when law enforcement officials can lie to you but you commit a crime by lying to them tell me something isn't right in this country. In my opinion this country is being turned into a 3rd world communist ruled country.

Response by Sgt David Gutierrez made Feb 5 at 2023 6:37 PM

Sgt David Gutierrez — Sun, 05 Feb 2023 18:37:11 -0500

He should be court marshaled stripped of retirement pay and jailed.

Response by PV2 Linda Binion made Feb 5 at 2023 6:51 PM

PV2 Linda Binion — Sun, 05 Feb 2023 18:51:19 -0500

Lock him up just as the law would do with any other criminal

Response by SGT Rob Coombs made Feb 5 at 2023 8:08 PM

SGT Rob Coombs — Sun, 05 Feb 2023 20:08:04 -0500

Sounds to me like Oliver north thing happening.

Response by PO2 Jan Heckman made Feb 6 at 2023 2:20 PM

PO2 Jan Heckman — Mon, 06 Feb 2023 14:20:00 -0500

Traitor to his country Michael Flynn should NOT receive retirement benefits for his military service --- Let the Federal jail system care for his needs.

Response by PO2 Jan Heckman made Feb 6 at 2023 2:24 PM

PO2 Jan Heckman — Mon, 06 Feb 2023 14:24:38 -0500

Michael Flynn is a traitor to his country and should be treated as such --- Let the Federal jail system provide for his needs.

Response by Cpl George Matousek made Feb 6 at 2023 5:40 PM

Cpl George Matousek — Mon, 06 Feb 2023 17:40:52 -0500

He should not get pension if found guilty of a crime.

Response by Sgt Lee Jacobson made Feb 6 at 2023 10:50 PM

Sgt Lee Jacobson — Mon, 06 Feb 2023 22:50:46 -0500

No and yes. He betrayed his country and the oath he took.

Response by MSG Al Wallace made Feb 7 at 2023 6:36 AM

MSG Al Wallace — Tue, 07 Feb 2023 06:36:44 -0500

This general should lose all retired pay and benefits. He lied under oath and many other crimes. I believe that the military still maintains the right and Juris over retired personnel. This general is cunning, sly, and bear considerably watching!

Response by Amn Douglas Ross made Feb 7 at 2023 9:35 AM

Amn Douglas Ross — Tue, 07 Feb 2023 09:35:32 -0500

Michael Flynn was charged with making false statements to FBI agents during a January 24, 2017 interview at his White House office regarding conversations Flynn had had in the preceding weeks with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak. (Flynn was also charged with making false statements concerning certain filings under the Foreign Agents Registration Act from receiving money from the RT, the Russian TV channel but the money actually came from the (FIS) Foreign Intelligence Service. He also recommended to the twice impeached disgraced president that he calls for "martial law" and have the military support him which breaks the law under the Posse Comitatus Act bars federal troops from participating in civilian law enforcement. He accepted a pardon from the wannabe dictator where Flynn signed a statement agreeing to his guilt on all charges he was convicted of and spent a few months in prison. Criminal actions. He knew better.

Response by A1C Eric Skaggs made Feb 8 at 2023 3:56 AM

A1C Eric Skaggs — Wed, 08 Feb 2023 03:56:03 -0500

Michael Flynn sold military secrets and favor to Russia, China and United States adversaries for millions of dollars in clear violation of United States and Military law. He should obviously still be in prison but Trump pardoned him. And Flynn should definitely lose all military benefits and be court martialed. He is a treasonous traitor. Right?

Response by MSG Brian Burk made Feb 8 at 2023 11:29 AM

MSG Brian Burk — Wed, 08 Feb 2023 11:29:03 -0500

What a woke question? We have an unjust Justice system. There are many innocent people serving time for crimes they did not do. Being labeled a convicted felon doesn’t mean anything. General Flynn served honorably for decades and his benefits should be protected.

Response by Maj Joan Marine made Feb 8 at 2023 12:25 PM

Maj Joan Marine — Wed, 08 Feb 2023 12:25:23 -0500

Yes

Response by PO1 Terry Scott made Feb 8 at 2023 4:28 PM

PO1 Terry Scott — Wed, 08 Feb 2023 16:28:42 -0500

Punished just like Oliver North. I hope the FBI knocks on your door. You will be found guilty of something. Even the FBI’s original notes stated the agents thought he honestly forgot. They didn’t tell him he was being officially questioned. He was found guilty of a PROCESS crime. Not what they were investigating. Russia, Russia, Russia, remember? Made up by Hillary and lied about by the FBI? So your a troll just to ask stupid questions or are you too stupid to do the homework and know no better that to ask stupid questions?

Response by SMSgt Gerald Goertz made Feb 9 at 2023 11:04 AM

SMSgt Gerald Goertz — Thu, 09 Feb 2023 11:04:13 -0500

Gen Flynn did nothing wrong and was set-up by the Obama administration. His career was ruined. They went after him and his family. Later court rulings found he did nothing wrong and he is suing the government for millions. I hope he wins.

Response by MAJ Jimmy M. made Feb 9 at 2023 6:00 PM

MAJ Jimmy M. — Thu, 09 Feb 2023 18:00:38 -0500

What a piece of s$!t question. You must have been a lot of fun as a "leader". The charges were dismissed. He was also pardoned in case other charges were ever brought.

Response by SFC Edna Madison made Feb 10 at 2023 5:36 PM

SFC Edna Madison — Fri, 10 Feb 2023 17:36:30 -0500

If Flynn is a retired veteran, he still has a responsibility to the military for 10 years after retirement. It seems that that should impact on his continued retirement benefits if he committed an act that is considered a crime.

Response by TSgt James Warfield made Feb 10 at 2023 6:50 PM

TSgt James Warfield — Fri, 10 Feb 2023 18:50:25 -0500

This just popped up again in my email, only 4 years later, it's now Feb 10, 2023.
Is RP now becoming Political? I hope not. Tired of sties becoming political or pushing their agenda.
Social Media operators should stay political neutral, as well as many other areas. All social media sites should leave it up to those who subscribe to post their opinions.
RP I hope you read this, I am tired of sties pushing and agenda...
I can see no agenda, for raising this 4 year old post, other then to once again to try Trump, his staff and his friends.
I am not a Trump fan or follower,,, nor Biden for that matter.

Response by LCpl Kenneth Heath made Feb 10 at 2023 11:05 PM

LCpl Kenneth Heath — Fri, 10 Feb 2023 23:05:30 -0500

If being "retired" means he's still under the purview of the UCMJ, then the law is the law and must be obeyed. He should be tried for such violations and punished fairly with no consideration for rank or status.

Response by PO1 Mario Suarez made Feb 12 at 2023 9:25 AM

PO1 Mario Suarez — Sun, 12 Feb 2023 09:25:24 -0500

Yes, the law should be applied to all of us as it applies, no one should have a free pass, just as I have to conduct my self in a lawful, moral and good respectful manner, so should him, specially being a officer. I bet that if one of us enlisted were to conduct our self in a criminal manner and be convicted of a crime regardless of how big or small it may be, we would be made accountable. So yes he as been convicted and should face the consequences and be made accountable for his actions

Response by 1SG James Kelly made Feb 20 at 2023 9:14 AM

1SG James Kelly — Mon, 20 Feb 2023 09:14:33 -0500

Yes; no.

Response by Maj Clyde Vanworth made Mar 20 at 2023 11:38 AM

Maj Clyde Vanworth — Mon, 20 Mar 2023 11:38:48 -0400

He should face a court martial.

Response by CPO James McGachey made Mar 26 at 2023 3:22 PM

CPO James McGachey — Sun, 26 Mar 2023 15:22:04 -0400

As soon as I see some lying government officials pay for entrapping an innocent man I might be able to answer. Until then, Flynn should be suing the ass off of everyone involved.

Response by CW2 Michael MacInerney made Mar 28 at 2023 2:55 PM

CW2 Michael MacInerney — Tue, 28 Mar 2023 14:55:29 -0400

I am sure almost all people that were aware of the political turmoil are able to answer this statement with another question. Are you really confused or just making a political statement on Rally Point?

Response by COL Bill Stoltzfus made Mar 28 at 2023 4:14 PM

COL Bill Stoltzfus — Tue, 28 Mar 2023 16:14:45 -0400

The alleged crime occurred 2 years after retirement. “Lying to the FBI” should not be a crime based upon 5th amendment rights. Additionally, President Trump granted a full pardon. A court martial would be a crime in and of itself as that would constitute double jeopardy.

Response by SGT Joseph Dutton made Mar 28 at 2023 9:43 PM

SGT Joseph Dutton — Tue, 28 Mar 2023 21:43:28 -0400

All federal pay & benefits ends when a person is convicted of a crime. The pay & benefits resumes when the person has paid their debt to society.

Response by A1C Raymond Ward made Mar 29 at 2023 7:07 PM

A1C Raymond Ward — Wed, 29 Mar 2023 19:07:47 -0400

Sorry the man lied to his superiors. Even though at the behest of his C-n-C. He violated his honor and the UCMJ about obeying lawful orders.

Response by CW4 Don Nicholas made Mar 29 at 2023 8:36 PM

CW4 Don Nicholas — Wed, 29 Mar 2023 20:36:08 -0400

He fell into the weaponized FBI's world famous perjury trap plus the threatened to financially ruin his family. At this point, I wouldn't trust this FBI leadership to issue a parking violation without bias. Given the DOD command structure with WOKE, CRT, DEI, and Rachel Levin, I don't think I'd trust a Court Martial either.

Response by Debra Tolliver made Mar 30 at 2023 12:42 AM

Debra Tolliver — Thu, 30 Mar 2023 00:42:45 -0400

Yes, he should lose his benefits, he is no longer in the military why or how could he be court-martialed?

Response by Debra Tolliver made Mar 30 at 2023 12:44 AM

Debra Tolliver — Thu, 30 Mar 2023 00:44:35 -0400

Since the Army has rules for this; "Yes" he should be court-martialed

Response by SP5 Renee Reif made Mar 30 at 2023 6:38 PM

SP5 Renee Reif — Thu, 30 Mar 2023 18:38:08 -0400

He should absolutely be returned to active duty and court-martialed- and when found guilty, he should lose all his benefits. What traitors receive benefits? He is currently and ongoing, rallying people to eliminate representative democracy and implement autocracy, #whitechristiannationalism. This is specific tyranny; promoting tyranny does NOT uphold our military values. #stopthepatriarchy #stopwhitechristiannationalism #stopwhitesupremacy

Response by SFC Terry Bryant made Apr 1 at 2023 5:18 PM

SFC Terry Bryant — Sat, 01 Apr 2023 17:18:32 -0400

"General Flynn" was a victim of political attacks by the real criminals in this country who used the FBI to try and destroy this man because of Trump. This good man was nearly destroyed because of his political affiliation with Trump based on an OLD law that had never been used in over a hundred years. As for the regulations behind a court martial I won't even get into that. Because his case is just another case of politics used to destroy people by using the unlimited resources of the federal Government controlled by Democrats. So keep looking somewhere else for a victim. General Flynn is a damn hero. Not a criminal.

Response by PO2 John Drillock made Apr 1 at 2023 9:18 PM

PO2 John Drillock — Sat, 01 Apr 2023 21:18:01 -0400

After what those cast of clowns have done to Flynn with slick tricks and who knows what else, leave this patriotic man alone.

Response by SFC Clark Adams made Apr 2 at 2023 5:06 PM

SFC Clark Adams — Sun, 02 Apr 2023 17:06:23 -0400

You obviously don't pay much attention to the news or facts, the POTUS pardoned LTG Flynn!! That being said move on to some current news!

Response by CSM Bob Stanek made Apr 2 at 2023 9:12 PM

CSM Bob Stanek — Sun, 02 Apr 2023 21:12:19 -0400

MSG Private RallyPoint Member I would have hoped that when you draw up a question, you would phrase your question in a manner to not make it obvious as to what your opinion is. Suggest a rewrite of the title to gather opinions from all directions of the spectrum, not of one or two narrow focused opinions. Just my educational intuition kicking in.

Response by TSgt James Sutton made Apr 3 at 2023 2:15 PM

TSgt James Sutton — Mon, 03 Apr 2023 14:15:24 -0400

Double jeopardy rules prevent him from being charged. In the military there generally isn't double jeopardy protection since you can face a state trial and a UCMJ (federal) trial for the same charges. But since he was brought up on federal charges for lying to the FBI he can't be charged in federal court again and that includes a court martial (under title 10 US code)

Response by PO2 Joseph Fast made Apr 4 at 2023 4:41 AM

PO2 Joseph Fast — Tue, 04 Apr 2023 04:41:06 -0400

If I had a dollar for every FBI agent I believed to not be corrupt, I would be broke and unable to pay my bills.

Response by SPC Richard Standal made Apr 21 at 2023 6:22 PM

SPC Richard Standal — Fri, 21 Apr 2023 18:22:13 -0400

To begin with it was a witch hunt aimed at his boss,and in the end he got a presidential pardon. So why would the Army bring him up on charges for what was a slap at President Trump? That being said what would they charge him with talking?

Response by Sgt Bob Corridan made Apr 29 at 2023 7:53 PM

Sgt Bob Corridan — Sat, 29 Apr 2023 19:53:12 -0400

No slur to anyone in these series of threads nor their opinions on the issue but if we are going to speak to a level playing field then I will agree that General Flynn should be incarcerated with a loss of retirement benefits if indeed that is even possible 'PROVIDED THAT" president Joey stops referring to his son as some kind of a hero ..... for God's sakes he was in the JAG Corp at Camp Victory...the hardest thing he had to do was to decide what he was going to have for chow at the Officer's Mess before having cocktails. Any further in the rear and he would have been on the steps of Delaware. Walk with me Joey and I'll show you what Dong Ha looked like or the CuaViet or Con Tien or Camp Carroll or LZ Bravo and Rockpile or any other point I was at within that sweet area called Leatherneck Square for 22 months.

Response by SFC Ernest Thurston made Apr 29 at 2023 8:12 PM

SFC Ernest Thurston — Sat, 29 Apr 2023 20:12:08 -0400

Let's pretend for a moment that he worked for General Motors, retired and then went to work for the government. While in government he gets charged with a felony. Should he have to give up his retirement from GM? I'ts funny how politics work. If someone retires you want to hold him to the same standard as if he was still serving just because of a paycheck. But if a person says they are a member of Oath Keepers claiming their oath never expired, then you want to put him in prison for life for being a patriot.

Response by SSG Craig Newton made Apr 29 at 2023 9:18 PM

SSG Craig Newton — Sat, 29 Apr 2023 21:18:20 -0400

After being convicted of a felony, he should be disciplined by the UCMJ. He should lose all benefits.

Response by CPL David Widding made Apr 30 at 2023 8:43 AM

CPL David Widding — Sun, 30 Apr 2023 08:43:41 -0400

Comander and Chief Bill Clinton lined to the FBI and was not court marshaled neither did he face UCMJ,
Andrew McCabe lied to the FBI and was not charged.
The real question is why is there a stander for democrats and a second much higher standard for republicans

Response by GySgt Ronald Stettner made Apr 30 at 2023 9:41 AM

GySgt Ronald Stettner — Sun, 30 Apr 2023 09:41:53 -0400

100% yes

Response by PV2 Tommy Smith made Apr 30 at 2023 6:21 PM

PV2 Tommy Smith — Sun, 30 Apr 2023 18:21:29 -0400

You can't charge someone with the UCMJ who is no longer in the military and subject to the UCMJ. He my be subject to other US code. For example if you are convicted of a felony and imprisoned you lose your VA benefits and social security. I am sure it is the same way with retirement benefits. If I remember right he received a pardon.

Response by SSG Harry Herres made Apr 30 at 2023 8:05 PM

SSG Harry Herres — Sun, 30 Apr 2023 20:05:55 -0400

My feeling, if it had been any other officer or EM , they would loose it all and be behind bars! But when you have friends in high places you can do as you wish. Sorry if this doesn't bring shame and disrespect on the ARMY I served in I can't think of anything more damaging.

Response by SrA Gina Hotard made Apr 30 at 2023 10:23 PM

SrA Gina Hotard — Sun, 30 Apr 2023 22:23:44 -0400

Ok I’ve answered before yet I’ll say it again. Once time us served for any felony conviction (jail time) you can reapply and usually receive your pension once again. If you are on felony probation and abscond, you lose benefits again until warrant is cleared. This is the way the VA laws and by-laws are written. It is not up to us in this forum to decide which veteran ever convicted of a felony should or shouldn’t receive their benefits

Response by Col Dan Ketter made Apr 30 at 2023 10:51 PM

Col Dan Ketter — Sun, 30 Apr 2023 22:51:06 -0400

If Flynn committed the crimes while on active duty then of course he should be court marshalled.. Using that same criteria then Bill Clinton should also be brought up on charges

Response by SGT Paul Nowak made May 1 at 2023 9:00 PM

SGT Paul Nowak — Mon, 01 May 2023 21:00:14 -0400

I want to know why he was so busy buddy with the Russians. I am very suspicious of a military leader who befriends our longtime sworn enemy.

Response by SSgt Glenn Martin made May 4 at 2023 2:43 AM

SSgt Glenn Martin — Thu, 04 May 2023 02:43:30 -0400

Michael Flynn Is INNOCENT, He Was Set Up By That Scumbag Liar Comey. Michael Flynn
Deserves Every Penny Of His Military Retirement For His Honorable Service To America!

Response by Sgt Fire Chief David Alston made May 4 at 2023 9:58 AM

Sgt Fire Chief David Alston — Thu, 04 May 2023 09:58:06 -0400

I say let the UCMJ handle.it, Under Article 2 determine if he should receive any benefits. since he still falls under the regular component he has been Convicted, he should be penalized accordingly.

Response by SSG Omar Ruiz-Canales made May 4 at 2023 9:59 PM

SSG Omar Ruiz-Canales — Thu, 04 May 2023 21:59:17 -0400

That article does not and should not affect the time he served honorably and the fact that he retired before he committed his crimes. To any military member, he should be held to standards higher than a President because we made a promise and an oath as servicemembers to country and Constitution and not as some businessman that became President. He is now a POG who went against everything that the military instills in us and a traitor to America for pushing to place a wannabee dictator in power. The only ones pushing and acting to overthrow this country are the type of terrorists that participated in Jan 6.

Response by 1SG Ernest Stull made May 8 at 2023 9:57 AM

1SG Ernest Stull — Mon, 08 May 2023 09:57:18 -0400

No only if he goes to jail.

Response by PO2 Mike Keyes made May 8 at 2023 12:25 PM

PO2 Mike Keyes — Mon, 08 May 2023 12:25:51 -0400

If you can give him back the 30+ years he spent serving- with the promise of certain benefits- you can have his pension back.
It's a really dumb question: what other military retiree has ever lost his his earned military benefits due to a civilian criminal charge?

Response by Amn Joseph H. made May 10 at 2023 7:19 AM

Amn Joseph H. — Wed, 10 May 2023 07:19:01 -0400

Do not think anybody told the cops, and while I worked even in SanQuietin with a veterans group the VA would not give them anything for onine school while serving a sentence. But after they got out they could use their GI Bill. But anything like acts of treason, joining, aiding insurrectionists has under 14th Amendment ends all benefits and forbids any government job or ability to hold office.

Response by PO1 David Kingsley made May 13 at 2023 7:37 PM

PO1 David Kingsley — Sat, 13 May 2023 19:37:38 -0400

in some of his recent Public Speechifying, Michael Flynn Has Advocated the take over of the Government, by the Use of Martial Law.
Granted, I'm not a Lawyer, but my Understanding is that, by Advocating the Take-over of the Government by the Military, is a Seditious Action, and would Require that he be charged as a Mutineer and Insurrectionist.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 7 at 2023 4:39 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 07 Jun 2023 16:39:39 -0400

Flynn, got just what he deserved. It’s funny how providence falls on us all. Especially when you request someone else’s down fall. “Lock her up” is what I remember him saying. But, my how the tables sure turn. I can’t believe this guy was a general in the United States Army! I do recall a retired Air Force general getting recalled from retirement on allegations of sexual harassment. Court martial and reduced in rank. Then released from active duty and put back in retired status. Its very plausible this could happen to Flynn.

Response by Maj Ronald Illingworth made Jun 12 at 2023 1:14 AM

Maj Ronald Illingworth — Mon, 12 Jun 2023 01:14:14 -0400

Yes. No special ttreatment

Response by SFC Daniel Brown made Jun 16 at 2023 6:53 PM

SFC Daniel Brown — Fri, 16 Jun 2023 18:53:56 -0400

No reason for it. He paid his dues when the lying Democrats and worthless FBI used false documents to frame him.

Response by PO1 George Noble made Jun 17 at 2023 1:20 AM

PO1 George Noble — Sat, 17 Jun 2023 01:20:05 -0400

Wow! That's a great question.

Response by SPC Vonnie Jones made Jun 18 at 2023 8:10 AM

SPC Vonnie Jones — Sun, 18 Jun 2023 08:10:43 -0400

I don't think the pension of anyone any rank should be touched. Also I notice that if you are a felon you are not allowed to file a medical claim, I think that's wrong. Once you serve honorably your civilian life should have no barring on your military benefits you earned those and I mean this for everyone who served and discharged honorably. I am not a fan of Flynn I am disappointed and this he is or very near to treason. The only problem us the FBI is questionable. I am also disappointed in anyone that participated in Jan 6, I do think they should all be charge with treason.

Response by SGT Juan Robledo made Jun 18 at 2023 10:54 AM

SGT Juan Robledo — Sun, 18 Jun 2023 10:54:59 -0400

Of LAW is being Cordial then they’re up to NO good, I say if you don’t have a WARRANT then come back with one, then once they do I saw LAWYER

Response by SGT Steven Wade made Jun 18 at 2023 11:51 AM

SGT Steven Wade — Sun, 18 Jun 2023 11:51:38 -0400

Being a felon is beside the point. On whatever he did in civilian service. aside from killing someone or stealing secrets what does a felony mean you can get a felony for joyriding because you didn't take a car to a place and time making you that scary word"felon" Yep but violent to a threat to secrets nope. every time someone throws the felon's work at me it's a flag to arouse suspicion, not the other way around. I knew felons in service that never found out the entire time in the service that negate the service or the benefits?

Response by Cpl Anthony Starcevic made Jun 18 at 2023 2:28 PM

Cpl Anthony Starcevic — Sun, 18 Jun 2023 14:28:29 -0400

You know ,
we all have our own personal opinions , but its past my pay grade to make a serios judgement on the issue. Sooooo...I'll leave that up to the "Bigs" to make that call, as there is an argument to be made either way!

Response by Maj Giogi Chiappo-West made Jun 18 at 2023 2:36 PM

Maj Giogi Chiappo-West — Sun, 18 Jun 2023 14:36:30 -0400

Retired members of the U.S. military, regardless of rank, when convicted of a felony, DO NOT receive military benefits or pensions, if they already are receiving benefits and pension, the military will stop all benefits upon discovery of a felony conviction.

Response by LCpl Timothy Dunn made Jun 18 at 2023 9:33 PM

LCpl Timothy Dunn — Sun, 18 Jun 2023 21:33:51 -0400

I think he should lose all benefits and go to court martial. Do the crime you do the time.

Response by MAJ Hugh Blanchard made Jun 18 at 2023 9:56 PM

MAJ Hugh Blanchard — Sun, 18 Jun 2023 21:56:12 -0400

LTG Flynn has received a Presidential Pardon. He is no longer a convicted felon, his record has been cleared. The question is moot.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 18 at 2023 10:23 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 18 Jun 2023 22:23:14 -0400

Received his military retirement and don’t and don’t like Obama he was Saten in charge.

Response by CPL Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 19 at 2023 11:28 AM

CPL Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 19 Jun 2023 11:28:00 -0400

All he did was LIE to the FBI, Hell they have been lying to The People since just before Trump was elected. Everyday since 2016

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 19 at 2023 9:14 PM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 19 Jun 2023 21:14:32 -0400

Wasn't General Flynn pardoned? Doesn't this mean that he's not any longer a "convicted felon?"

Response by Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 20 at 2023 2:42 AM

Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 20 Jun 2023 02:42:16 -0400

Flynn swept up in an illegal/bogus investigation. When the government-entrenched criminals then threatened to set up his son, Flynn pleaded guilty. All convictions related to this illegal "Crossfire Hurricane" set-up should've been reversed/dropped already...esp. after Durham Report.

Response by SP6 Peter Kreutzfeldt made Jun 20 at 2023 9:01 AM

SP6 Peter Kreutzfeldt — Tue, 20 Jun 2023 09:01:22 -0400

Going to jail as well as loosing all benefits from previous service smacks of double jeopardy to me.

Response by LCpl Jeff Moore made Jun 20 at 2023 2:06 PM

LCpl Jeff Moore — Tue, 20 Jun 2023 14:06:49 -0400

Yes, he was working as a Muslim nations foreign agents trying to get Americans deported to them

Response by SR Ray Sparr made Jun 20 at 2023 7:49 PM

SR Ray Sparr — Tue, 20 Jun 2023 19:49:46 -0400

He earned his retirement before the charges. He should keep the pension. Court Marshal no. He served with honor. All veterans should be proud of him.

Response by MSgt Frank Askins made Jun 20 at 2023 10:47 PM

MSgt Frank Askins — Tue, 20 Jun 2023 22:47:37 -0400

And what are you going to charge him with?? Ever hear of double jeopardy????

Response by SGT Michael Wells III made Jun 21 at 2023 9:20 AM

SGT Michael Wells III — Wed, 21 Jun 2023 09:20:31 -0400

If the crime is in some way connected to active duty military service or has to have taken place on DOD property using the retiree's access - in other words, if the retiree is poaching on unfenced DOD property, that's a nope on military jurisdiction, but if he goes through a gate with his/her ID and then poaches, that's a gotcha.

This Supreme Court ruling lays it out (p7 for the meat and potatoes):

https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/18/18-306/80656/ [login to see] 0304388_Larrabee%20Cert%20Reply%20--%20FINAL.pdf

I'm no fan of Flynn, but I'm pretty sure that lying (and let's be clear about this: "where were on on the night of April 3, 1992?" Answer that wrong and it's a lie) to the FBI rises to the severity of losing retirement you earned.

20190116090304388_Larrabee%2520Cert%2520Reply%2520--%2520FINAL.pdf

Response by SGT Michael Wells III made Jun 21 at 2023 9:20 AM

SGT Michael Wells III — Wed, 21 Jun 2023 09:20:43 -0400

2nd year at Campbell U for JD for Civil Law now and we just covered this - in this situation, jurisdiction would determine a) Where the crime took place and b) who the victim was.
If the victim was a service member, a court martial it is. If the crime was committed on a DOD installation, then once again, court martial it is.

Response by SSgt Michael Gould made Jun 21 at 2023 3:33 PM

SSgt Michael Gould — Wed, 21 Jun 2023 15:33:24 -0400

He gave classified top secret documents to his then reporter girlfriend. It is easy to see why Trump pardoned him because he doesn't thunk stealing some of the countries most secret documents is a crime.

Response by LTC Stephen F. made Jun 23 at 2023 4:55 AM

LTC Stephen F. — Fri, 23 Jun 2023 04:55:16 -0400

Belated thank you MSG Private RallyPoint Member for posting the question.
As far as I am concerned LTC Michael Flynn should receive his benefits as a retired LTG.
The FBI lied and they lied about POTUS Trump as well. The FBI colluded with Obama Administration personnel including most likely Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden to investigate candidate Donald Trump. HRC and others colluded with the hoax that Donald Trump colluded with Russia.
Hopefully the FBI thugs who trumped up hoaxes and slandered and libeled POTUS Donald Trump and LTG retired Michael Flynn including former FBI Director James Comey and Andrew W. McGabe should be tried, convicted and sent to prison for a long time.

Background from [cnn.com/2017/10/12/us/2016-presidential-election-investigation-fast-facts/index.html]
May 7, 2020 The Justice Department drops the criminal case against Flynn. Also, The House Intelligence Committee releases transcripts from more than 50 of its closed-door interviews from the investigation.
September 30, 2020 - Comey testifies at a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing, responding to questions concerning the decision to open the Russia investigation in July 2016 to the FBI’s knowledge of problems with the opposition search dossier on Trump and Russia that was used in the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act warrants. Comey defends the investigation as “appropriate” and “essential” and notes that it began before the dossier was given to the FBI and that it resulted in several indictments. He, however, acknowledges problems with the FISA warrants obtained on former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page.
November 25, 2020 - Trump announces that he has granted Flynn a “full pardon.”

1. LTC Michael Flynn should not be court-marshaled. On November 25, 2002 POTUS Donald Trump granted Flynn a “full pardon.”
Michael Flynn's Holy War (full documentary) | FRONTLINE
How did Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn go from being an elite soldier overseas to waging a “spiritual war” in America? An investigation with the Associated Press.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhRNDsLbOvQ

Background from {[mediaite.com/opinion/the-treatment-of-john-durham-by-house-democrats-is-the-real-scandal]}
Kevin Clinesmith, an FBI lawyer who altered a document to erroneously indicate that Trump foreign policy advisor Carter Page was not a source for the CIA — was convicted.
Michael Sussmann, an ex-FBI lawyer who was working for the Clinton campaign, brought what he alleged to be evidence of a communication link between Trump Tower and a Russian financial institution called Alfa Bank. Sussmann was acquitted of lying to the FBI because the prosecution did not find the text until it was too late to charge him. Instead, they charged him for lying about the same topic during his meeting with Baker the next day, but their case was mostly based on Baker’s word, and he faltered on the witness stand.
Second, Democrats brought up evidence of the Trump campaign acting in an unscrupulous, inadvisable manner in an effort to overshadow mistakes made at the bureau. “Mr. Durham, you are totally oblivious to Donald Trump’s use of the stolen emails on the campaign trail more than 100 times?” asked Schiff on Wednesday.'
FYI COL Lisandro Murphy COL Randall C. SSG William Zopff III ] Maj Bill Smith, Ph.D. SMSgt Lawrence McCarter SSG Gerhard S. MSG Joseph Christofaro PO3 Edward Riddle SPC Michael Duricko, Ph.D MAJ Tex HallMaj Ronald ScarpaMSG Billy Brumfield LCpl Roy McMillan Lt Col Scott Shuttleworth MAJ Hugh Blanchard 1SG Brian Holt 1SG Joseph Dartey SFC William Farrell MSG Greg Kelly

Michael Flynn's Holy War (full documentary) | FRONTLINE

How did Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn go from being an elite soldier overseas to waging a “spiritual war” in America? An investigation with the Associated Press. T...

Response by PO2 Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 23 at 2023 5:49 PM

PO2 Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 23 Jun 2023 17:49:53 -0400

Flynn should be court martialed and retired benefits revoked.

Response by Amn Joseph H. made Jun 24 at 2023 5:18 AM

Amn Joseph H. — Sat, 24 Jun 2023 05:18:23 -0400

Did you not read Flynn was paid tens of thousands of dollars for appearances he made in Russia, including payments from a Kremlin-backed media organization? Or that Flynn made more than 60 in-person speeches in 24 states, according to a count by the AP and “Frontline.” He often asserts that the United States was founded on Judeo-Christian values lie for organgeheads cult? You do know that taking money from a foreign country, a enemy foreign country is against his oath and his trusted position in the defense of this country?

The scary part is that this guy had all this responsibility and he was a follower of a cult, the cult getting money from extremists groups, that are known enemies domestically to our secular democracy? And the deliberately openingly defying known American military history by lying about the US being created by Judeo-Christian values, which his position would have known was a lie.

"The Treaty of Tripoli (Treaty of Peace and Friendship between the United States of America and the Bey and Subjects of Tripoli of Barbary) was signed in 1796.[2] It was the first treaty between the United States and Tripoli (now Libya) to secure commercial shipping rights and protect American ships in the Mediterranean Sea from local Barbary pirates.

It was authored by Joel Barlow, an ardent Jeffersonian republican, and signed in Tripoli on November 4, 1796, and at Algiers (for a third-party witness) on January 3, 1797. It was ratified by the United States Senate unanimously without debate on June 7, 1797, taking effect June 10, 1797, with the signature of President John Adams. The treaty was broken by Tripoli, leading to the First Barbary War. A superseding treaty, the Treaty of Peace and Amity, was signed on June 4, 1805.[3]

The Treaty is often cited in discussions regarding the role of religion in United States government for a clause in Article 11 of the English language American version which states that "the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion."[4]

Response by CDR Tom Davy made Jun 26 at 2023 12:00 PM

CDR Tom Davy — Mon, 26 Jun 2023 12:00:02 -0400

Lt Gen Flynn was pardoned by President Trump, so he was not convinced. It is my understanding that the Army is weighing their options on what, if anything, to do with him (source, an Army Colonel JAG June 2023).

Response by PO3 William Carroll made Jun 26 at 2023 4:14 PM

PO3 William Carroll — Mon, 26 Jun 2023 16:14:25 -0400

No way in hell, should he get anything from the Government.
Maybe put his ass back in person.

Response by CPO Kurt Baschab made Jun 26 at 2023 7:12 PM

CPO Kurt Baschab — Mon, 26 Jun 2023 19:12:25 -0400

Michael Flynn WAS set up by A LYING CHEATING CORRUPT FBI, Agency THAT HAS BEEN SUCCESSFULLY WEAPONIZED BY The lying, cheating Deceiving DEMOCRATIC PARTY, FACELESS BUREAUCRATS, to this day no one in the FBI has been held accountable, for Lying to the FISA Courts, lying to the American people, the FBI openly lied and set up Michael Flynn,
WHAT IS TRULY SAD , AT THAT TIME WE STILL BELIVED IN THE FBI,

all this was done in order to spy on the Trump Campaign, IN ORDER FOR THE DEMOCRTIC PARTY TO KEEP POWER ,after that failed, they then continue to lie to the courts and the American people in order to continue to spy on President Trump! THE FBI knew that the Russia Russia Russia story was false, yet they got the Democratic party Propaganda machine, that we mistakenly call the American news media to help tell the lie!

Obama , Biden, Hillary Clinton and the Democratic party leadership, paid for this false Russia Russia, Russia story,
think about that, if the Democratic party was willing to do all this to stay in power in 2016, why is it so hard to believe the same political elites and faceless BUREAUCRATS in the Democratic party would not openly, Lie, Cheat, and Steal the 2020 election in order to get the political power back,

the Democratic political elites are willing to destroyed innocent lives, all for political power,

sadly the FBI ALONG WITH MANY OTHER FEDERAL LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY HAVE ALL BEEN WEAPOIZED to go after the Dem party political enemies, this should be of great concern for all American citizens, if the FBI can do this to Michael Flynn, President Trump, they will have no problem setting up any America citizen for crimes they have not committed,

the FBI, had nothing on Michael Flynn, one thing the FBI and the FBI Prosecutors did have was Unlimited time and tax payer funds, the FBI keep him tied up in court, no American citizens has hundred of thousands of Dollars to defend themselves from a corrupt evil Government agency that has unlimited tax payers funds

we are no longer a nation of laws, we have lost this great Republic, we the American people at one time was protected by elected officials that believed in the united states, and her constitution & bill of rights.
the last President that did this much damage to America constitution and her checks and balances was president Wilson, he removed the states voice and power to stop the federal government with the passage of the 16th & 17th amendment, we now have elected officials and faceless Bureaucrats that work overtime with unlimited tax payer money, they have one goal, to come up with any leagal pretext to remove the American citizens Constitutional rights and freedoms,

while the faceless Bureaucrats work tirelessly in removing the American citizens individual Constitutional Rights and Freedoms, they scream we are loosing Democracy, so we must severely restrict or remove the American people rights and freedoms, only one problem with that saying, America was never a democracy, we are a Constitutional republic.
sadly we are loosing are REPUBLIC ! while the Dem party & faceless Bureaucrats scream we must save Democracy , the only problem is that America founding fathers despised democracy, for they knew the people would vote there rights and freedoms away.

WE SHOULD ALL BE VERY AFRAID

Response by SP6 Genevieve Zartman made Jul 8 at 2023 3:14 PM

SP6 Genevieve Zartman — Sat, 08 Jul 2023 15:14:47 -0400

He should be court martialed just like any other soldier and stripped of all his pay and benefits, he shouldn't receive any special treatment just because he's a general, what's wrong is wrong, you commit the crime, you do the time and that's the bottom line.

Response by MAJ Tex Hall made Jul 18 at 2023 11:22 PM

MAJ Tex Hall — Tue, 18 Jul 2023 23:22:11 -0400

MSG you should know the regs and UCMJ fully when you pick and choose things to toss out. General Flynn wasn't convicted of any felony. His benefits as earned during his tenure on active duty must remain in place. IF he were to be recalled to active duty for a court martial, then that court would decide if any violation occurred and if there were any penalty if so.

Response by AN Catherine Wray-Tully made Jul 19 at 2023 8:26 PM

AN Catherine Wray-Tully — Wed, 19 Jul 2023 20:26:47 -0400

He should lose his benefits. If this was the 40's or 50's he would be charged with treason and probably executed

Response by SPC Donald Donovan made Jul 23 at 2023 12:51 PM

SPC Donald Donovan — Sun, 23 Jul 2023 12:51:44 -0400

If cleared or acquitted of all charges, allow to retire at rank.

Response by MSgt Sally Whitehead made Jul 23 at 2023 4:33 PM

MSgt Sally Whitehead — Sun, 23 Jul 2023 16:33:27 -0400

What they did to General Flynn, I believe, was entrapment and had nothing to do with his military service. No court martial and leave his benefits alone.

Response by PO3 Charles Vancs Sr. made Jul 24 at 2023 11:38 AM

PO3 Charles Vancs Sr. — Mon, 24 Jul 2023 11:38:07 -0400

Response by CPL Sheila Lewis made Jul 24 at 2023 12:12 PM

CPL Sheila Lewis — Mon, 24 Jul 2023 12:12:54 -0400

No.

Response by Lt Col Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 24 at 2023 12:48 PM

Lt Col Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 24 Jul 2023 12:48:21 -0400

His prosecution is baselessly illegal, and should be overturned, further, most if not all of his interview was illegal and called entrapment by normal rules of law. The original basis for the investigation has already been found to be baseless as well. Therefore leave his pension alone, restore his rank, and lets actually follow the rule of law, and hold the FBI for their actions, which if they had followed the rules of law in the first place would probably have not even led to a false conviction.

Response by CPO Loren Halsey made Jul 24 at 2023 9:52 PM

CPO Loren Halsey — Mon, 24 Jul 2023 21:52:04 -0400

His case was dropped, and he was pardoned by President Trump! He should not be punished, as the Government exercised prosecutorial misconduct!

Response by SPC Kenneth Greene made Jul 25 at 2023 3:02 PM

SPC Kenneth Greene — Tue, 25 Jul 2023 15:02:00 -0400

Even though I WISH certain offenses would mean losing EVERYTHING including your life (i.e., Rapists, Child molesters, Treason, etc.), we as Americans do have the legislative protections against double jeopardy. And, it would most likely be a very difficult task to obtain any kind of consensus as to which crimes it should include and would apply to. He did earn his pension and that achievement, in my opinion, is not predicated on any “you can never do wrong or run afoul of the law” provision in the UCMJ.

Response by Sgt Ed Allen made Jul 25 at 2023 10:29 PM

Sgt Ed Allen — Tue, 25 Jul 2023 22:29:41 -0400

Yes, he should still receive his stipend from the government. In fact, he should be re-imbursed for the false accusations and the government heavy handedness that was done to him.

His conviction was a process crime. What that means is, he really didn't commit a crime, but they kept investigating him and coerced him to admit guilt just so the FBI could have the satisfaction of being able to say they got him.

The FBI, had it played by the rules and been honest, would never have gotten a conviction. However, they used blackmail and coercion. They had already bankrupted him and was preparing to go after his family.

Leave the man alone. He gave good and honorable service while in uniform. He earned his retirement.

Response by CDR William Kempner made Jul 25 at 2023 11:51 PM

CDR William Kempner — Tue, 25 Jul 2023 23:51:03 -0400

That was a railroad job. Even the FBI agents assigned were EMBARRASSED at what they were forced to do as they felt he had done nothing wrong. Gen Flynn's retirement should be restored and his court-martial expunged from his record.

Response by PVT John Jones made Jul 26 at 2023 12:02 AM

PVT John Jones — Wed, 26 Jul 2023 00:02:45 -0400

He's a traitor. Who want's to reward traitors?

Response by SPC Michael Brown made Jul 26 at 2023 1:48 AM

SPC Michael Brown — Wed, 26 Jul 2023 01:48:49 -0400

No, he should not receive them.

Response by PO2 Jimmy Waddell made Jul 26 at 2023 1:21 PM

PO2 Jimmy Waddell — Wed, 26 Jul 2023 13:21:42 -0400

Court-martialed. What Flynn has done could be considered traitorous.

Response by COL Paul Melody made Jul 26 at 2023 2:34 PM

COL Paul Melody — Wed, 26 Jul 2023 14:34:47 -0400

No. He can not be charged as he was given a presidential pardon. Note the UCMJ also states that retired officers can not speak ill, disrespectful of the President who is in office. So, unlike Flynn who was pardoned (after being set up and framed by a corrupt FBI Director), all the Generals and Admirals who said Trump was a traitor, corrupt, "Like Hitler" should have been and still can be brought back on active duty and charged for disrespect etc.

Response by PO2 Robert Kelly made Jul 26 at 2023 4:15 PM

PO2 Robert Kelly — Wed, 26 Jul 2023 16:15:06 -0400

Honestly, I think a lot more information is needed. What did he do? Was it lying to the fbi, if so about what? Is it a felony? If so probably yes. You loose your right to vote with a felony conviction and if the act was against national interest or derogatory to military protocol then hard maybe? I obviously don’t have enough information or even a desire to look into it however officers, especially high ranking officers should be held to higher standards.

Response by LTC Eric Coger made Jul 26 at 2023 4:53 PM

LTC Eric Coger — Wed, 26 Jul 2023 16:53:34 -0400

he was pardoned, so...

Response by COL Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 27 at 2023 1:52 PM

COL Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 27 Jul 2023 13:52:06 -0400

LTG Michael Flynn, USA, was a lifelong Democrat and honorable man, any person with any convictions should be able to tell this was a hit job from an outgoing administration. We should all be more concerned with what is going on in the current administration. He was never convicted of any felony. A simple google search would determine what actually happened. We should all be concerned how the government has weaponized all aspects of our FBI, IRS and Justice Department.

Flynn was a criminal case in the United States District Court for the District of Columbia which was dismissed without any convictions in December 2020 following a presidential pardon.

Quote from CNBC
The criminal case against President Donald Trump’s former national security advisor Michael Flynn was formally dismissed Tuesday, two weeks after Trump pardoned him.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 27 at 2023 4:32 PM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 27 Jul 2023 16:32:00 -0400

Yes, he should receive benefits as a retired general. Technically per regulation, something can be done. But, I have yet to hear someone questioning his service as a Soldier. Anything he aerned as a Soldier, leave it alone.

Anything after his service involving politics, he needs to be processed. One cannot cannot mix one thing with the other.

Response by CPT Al Garber made Jul 28 at 2023 9:46 AM

CPT Al Garber — Fri, 28 Jul 2023 09:46:47 -0400

I know how easy it is to trick someone into "lying." One way is to ask seemingly unimportant questions about events that happened a long time ago. Another way is to ask questions and then take the answers out of context. My opinion is that General Flynn, a talented combat leader, was easily lead by Agents he trusted. I believe the Agents had an agenda which included proving he was a liar. He should not forfeit his pension.

Response by Darlene Carter made Jul 29 at 2023 2:43 AM

Darlene Carter — Sat, 29 Jul 2023 02:43:26 -0400

Michael Flynn falsified something going on in the White House. His falsification had nothing to do with the base he served. Yes! He should be trial and or sentence. He disrespect himself and what he stand for regarding the military. Nevertheless; he's a Retired member of the Armed Forces and money from Retirement should be held until he has served his time. Not taken away ( my opinion)

Response by MSgt Jon Cayer made Jul 30 at 2023 2:36 PM

MSgt Jon Cayer — Sun, 30 Jul 2023 14:36:16 -0400

Leave him be. He earned his retirement honorably; cancel Brandon, et. al instead.

Response by MAJ Janice Campbell. BSN, RN, CNOR made Jul 31 at 2023 12:16 AM

MAJ Janice Campbell. BSN, RN, CNOR — Mon, 31 Jul 2023 00:16:29 -0400

Is this a serious question?
So Michael Flynn was convicted?
Shall we discuss, justified conviction? Guessing no.

Bottom line here.
If Fauci after all his lies, bankrupting small business, helping big Pharma get rich, put our US students behind more than ever, and he gets his retirement, then no question Michael Flynn gets his.

Not a fair comparison, because one of the two was unjustly convicted and the other guilty one gets off without conviction. Probably gonna be targeted for this response.

Response by Ray Barraquias made Jul 31 at 2023 10:42 AM

Ray Barraquias — Mon, 31 Jul 2023 10:42:26 -0400

Under UCMJ provisions are entitled to pay

Response by CPT Jerry Lucas made Aug 3 at 2023 3:01 AM

CPT Jerry Lucas — Thu, 03 Aug 2023 03:01:52 -0400

At this point, it doesn't matter. Even though Flynn twice pleaded guilty, he received a full pardon from Trump. Whether you like it, or not, that's the way it is.

Response by CPT Gurinder (Gene) Rana made Aug 14 at 2023 10:31 PM

CPT Gurinder (Gene) Rana — Mon, 14 Aug 2023 22:31:30 -0400

SGT Lou Meza makes for an interesting discussion on RallyPoint. Does the Constitution allow any citizen, uniformed or otherwise, to be tried more than once for the same offense? The answer is No, the laws of our land doesn't allow anyone to be tried twice based upon the same allegations. In fact, the federal courts demand new and relevant evidence in such cases.

However, having made the aforesaid, I ask this forum that does the uniformed services have any pseudo-legal authority to charge uniformed service members twice based on the same unsubstantiated claims? If the Constitution doesn't allow Double Jeopardy and the DoD Directives, Instructions and Regulations are based upon the laws of our land then, how can the JAGs, IGs and military high commands allow Double Jeopardy cases against uniformed service members?

I am asking this question because I am a witness to Double Jeopardy cases taking place in our Armed Forces.

Response by 1SG Marcus Whitfield made Aug 25 at 2023 11:40 PM

1SG Marcus Whitfield — Fri, 25 Aug 2023 23:40:44 -0400

Are you a Convicted Felon in a Kangaroo court ?

Response by SSG William Hommel made Aug 29 at 2023 7:44 AM

SSG William Hommel — Tue, 29 Aug 2023 07:44:33 -0400

This post should be taken down. He was pardoned.

Response by Capt Jim McLaurin made Sep 10 at 2023 10:21 PM

Capt Jim McLaurin — Sun, 10 Sep 2023 22:21:08 -0400

That was a bullshit setup.

Response by SPC Clay Young made Sep 13 at 2023 10:11 AM

SPC Clay Young — Wed, 13 Sep 2023 10:11:35 -0400

First of all, he should be referred to as General because he earned that title, second of all he did nothing wrong in my opinion.

Response by SSG John Smith made Sep 20 at 2023 1:51 PM

SSG John Smith — Wed, 20 Sep 2023 13:51:58 -0400

First, he should be in front of a General Court marshal. Secondly, he should forfeit his pension while in prison.

Response by Cpl Patrick T made Sep 25 at 2023 9:56 AM

Cpl Patrick T — Mon, 25 Sep 2023 09:56:26 -0400

They should try osama-hellery-both cia directors, Haden, rice, jarret, lynch, pedo jo for treason, they all spied, cheated & are ripping off the country, tryin to collapse US & force their perverted socialist-marxist hell on US

Response by SP5 Roger Holt made Sep 25 at 2023 12:51 PM

SP5 Roger Holt — Mon, 25 Sep 2023 12:51:33 -0400

No. Yes.

Response by SFC Saul Bramasco made Sep 26 at 2023 11:11 AM

SFC Saul Bramasco — Tue, 26 Sep 2023 11:11:45 -0400

Yall leave that Man alone. He did his duty. Worry about Hunter Biden giving 10 percent to the Big Guy. How bout dat?

Response by Sgt Richard Maluso made Sep 26 at 2023 4:32 PM

Sgt Richard Maluso — Tue, 26 Sep 2023 16:32:26 -0400

Court-martial no. He was retired. Loss of all benefits, hell yes

Response by SPC Antoinette Daniel made Sep 26 at 2023 6:53 PM

SPC Antoinette Daniel — Tue, 26 Sep 2023 18:53:38 -0400

NO, to being Court Marshalled AND losing his benefits!! He is a VETERAN that served with honor, and he could've been killed, but he still continued to serve. Those of us that have served, but only receive Disability, and say that we commit a felony, should we get court Marshalled or lose our benefits!? You also should consider that sometimes that those benefits are also going towards the family

Response by Tammy Myers-Putman made Sep 27 at 2023 7:21 AM

Tammy Myers-Putman — Wed, 27 Sep 2023 07:21:13 -0400

Seems like a pot-stirring question. There are quite a few facts that have been left out of your question. Flynn did nothing wrong. Folks may want to do some research before posting such a question.

Response by COL Kenneth Ratajczak made Sep 28 at 2023 12:32 PM

COL Kenneth Ratajczak — Thu, 28 Sep 2023 12:32:47 -0400

He was the victim of a democrat witch hunt. Leave him alone.

Response by COL Kenneth Ratajczak made Sep 28 at 2023 12:33 PM

COL Kenneth Ratajczak — Thu, 28 Sep 2023 12:33:26 -0400

He was the victim of a Democrat witch hunt. Leave him alone.

Response by SP5 David Yancey made Sep 28 at 2023 3:09 PM

SP5 David Yancey — Thu, 28 Sep 2023 15:09:35 -0400

He told the TRUTH. !
He should be restored to his Rank and President Trump can make
SECRETARY OF DEFENSE

Response by PO3 Rick Lewis made Sep 28 at 2023 4:44 PM

PO3 Rick Lewis — Thu, 28 Sep 2023 16:44:10 -0400

No,he should NOT receive benefits and YES,he should be court marshalled!!!

Response by SSG Ralph Watkins made Sep 28 at 2023 7:26 PM

SSG Ralph Watkins — Thu, 28 Sep 2023 19:26:22 -0400

There are tons of veterans in prison & still getting retirement pay. General Flynn merely lied to the FBI. There have been far, far worse veteran criminals out there still getting disability & retirement payments. If you work for the VA or go to one of their inpatient rehab programs you will meet all kinds of folks. From drug lords to mass murderers.

Response by MSG Mike V made Sep 29 at 2023 11:13 AM

MSG Mike V — Fri, 29 Sep 2023 11:13:43 -0400

Utter bullshit. Give him a fair trial. The FBI is corrupt!

Response by LT Donald Perrin made Sep 29 at 2023 2:58 PM

LT Donald Perrin — Fri, 29 Sep 2023 14:58:01 -0400

Court martialed!!

Response by MSgt Earl King made Sep 30 at 2023 11:50 AM

MSgt Earl King — Sat, 30 Sep 2023 11:50:03 -0400

Are we talking about the traitor who sat at the right arm of Putin for dinner in Russia? Is this the guy who lied; and then said his admission of being a traitor was a lie so he could get a pardon from Trump (Putin's Buddy), is this the guy on national TV shouting lock her up? Since he was pardoned by Trump...yes he should receive all benefits. The world knows what he is, his brother knows what he is, a disgrace to our military, and pardoned by a low-life ex-president!!

Response by SSgt Mary Dungan made Sep 30 at 2023 8:34 PM

SSgt Mary Dungan — Sat, 30 Sep 2023 20:34:21 -0400

Yes, it should happened a long time ago. He is a disgrace to the uniform he once wore, and is effectively a traitor and an active participant in trying to destroy our democracy by supporting Trump's bid to take over this country. The man's a lunatic, and I don't want any of my hard-earned dollars going to scum like him.

Response by SFC Kevin Childers made Sep 30 at 2023 10:59 PM

SFC Kevin Childers — Sat, 30 Sep 2023 22:59:32 -0400

Not to mention while incarcerated benefits are cut to 10% and you get prison medical, not VA. You can forget any and all other veterans benefits.

Response by PFC Craig Stone made Oct 1 at 2023 1:40 AM

PFC Craig Stone — Sun, 01 Oct 2023 01:40:14 -0400

Absolutely! We made a commitment to uphold the Constitution of the United States of America the moment we raised our right hand! No if’s, and’s or but’s!!

Response by CPL Ken Howard made Oct 1 at 2023 10:48 AM

CPL Ken Howard — Sun, 01 Oct 2023 10:48:46 -0400

He was pardoned right?

Response by MSgt Michael Madden made Oct 2 at 2023 1:20 PM

MSgt Michael Madden — Mon, 02 Oct 2023 13:20:34 -0400

He is not entitled to pay benefits. His protection of Trump was a dishonorable act.

Response by TSgt J.L. Brown Jr made Oct 4 at 2023 4:39 AM

TSgt J.L. Brown Jr — Wed, 04 Oct 2023 04:39:35 -0400

This was just like the Russian collusion story. I think the fbi can no longer be trusted. This goes for the doj, irs and atf.

Response by LCpl George Gocheff made Oct 5 at 2023 6:21 AM

LCpl George Gocheff — Thu, 05 Oct 2023 06:21:05 -0400

HELL NO!

General Flynn is but another example of the communist political bastards who are guilty of the crimes we, the people, are too often charged for.

General Flynn is faithful to our constitution and the commie politicians can't stand his valor for our country. They have broken him financially just as they will take all we have if they feel we are a threat or oppose their cause.

Response by SPC Avis Ray made Oct 5 at 2023 4:52 PM

SPC Avis Ray — Thu, 05 Oct 2023 16:52:35 -0400

If others are subject to it, he should also. He should be court-martialed.

Response by COL Jason Woodford made Oct 5 at 2023 5:07 PM

COL Jason Woodford — Thu, 05 Oct 2023 17:07:46 -0400

My vote is for no. I have always felt that, unless you can show a connection to misconduct BEFORE discharge, the act of recalling a retiree back onto active duty for the sole purpose of court martialing them should be off limits. I don't care how heinous a crime it is. If it has nothing to do with their time before discharge, too bad. Punish them other ways, but I think that should be off the table. I don't have a problem with it if their alleged misconduct is somehow tied to their service.

Response by SGT Kevin Gardner made Oct 5 at 2023 6:05 PM

SGT Kevin Gardner — Thu, 05 Oct 2023 18:05:13 -0400

First off, General Flynn’s conviction should have been overturned based on the exculpatory evidence that was withheld from his defense team. In fact if you remember, an appeals court actually did order that he be acquitted. The judge in the case continued to proceed forward with the case despite being ordered to toss it. That’s why General Flynn was pardoned.

Response by SPC Robert Nasiff made Oct 5 at 2023 9:39 PM

SPC Robert Nasiff — Thu, 05 Oct 2023 21:39:07 -0400

Exactly! It is against federal, state and local laws to lie to law enforcement officials and Federal agents. Flynn did this to himself. All he had to do was keep his wide trap shut until he had his attorney present, and even then, most likely his attorney would have told him to keep quiet. So you all who have grips against the FBI, and law enforcement in general, find another way to vent your anger. But to vent it by defending a convicted felon who admitted his lying is not the way to go.

Thank you all for your service

Response by Sgt Ronald Burcham made Oct 6 at 2023 2:17 AM

Sgt Ronald Burcham — Fri, 06 Oct 2023 02:17:15 -0400

Flynn committed no crime. It has been established that the charges were invented by his accusers in the FBI.

Response by Sgt Ronald Burcham made Oct 6 at 2023 2:20 AM

Sgt Ronald Burcham — Fri, 06 Oct 2023 02:20:44 -0400

Flynn committed no crime. It has been established that the charges were invented by his accusers in the FBI.

Response by LTC Mo Vanderslice made Oct 6 at 2023 12:04 PM

LTC Mo Vanderslice — Fri, 06 Oct 2023 12:04:49 -0400

So, due to a witch-hunt by the FBI you want to punish and humiliate this leader, again. This soldier knows so many classified secrets of this nation that he probably can’t order lunch at a McDonalds drive thru without having to conceal something being asked. If we take away his retirement then he’ll have nothing left to live on except the information in his head. Not to mention the fact that we, as fellow soldiers, should be forming ranks to protect this man and any other soldier from an overzealous prosecution of injustice. The things and classified data that we all know must be protected and that begins with no being asked questions that can’t be asked by someone without the appropriate security clearance and then prosecuting the service member/retiree for a security clearance-appropriate answer to that question. I often get asked questions that I cannot truthfully answer without revealing classified information. That just part of life if you’ve held a top secret level clearance.

Response by Amn Joseph H. made Oct 11 at 2023 4:20 PM

Amn Joseph H. — Wed, 11 Oct 2023 16:20:09 -0400

Might help to read what was being discovered back when this guy first got highlighted for being a agent for a foregn country tie. Better to have a list with a time and date to be checked. This was Vox, better then some, worst then other spin-journalism these days, but at least lists all the actors, many are familiar here, for whatever it is . Joe

https://www.vox.com/world/2017/3/9/14868680/trump-adviser-michael-flynn-foreign-agent-turkey-lobby
Former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn, who was fired in February after lying about his contacts with the Russian government, has formally registered with the Justice Department as a “foreign agent” and admitted that he had lobbied on behalf of the Turkish government as recently as November 2016.

As the Associated Press reports, Flynn’s lawyer filed paperwork with the Justice Department Tuesday disclosing that the retired Army general had done lobbying work between August and November 2016 that “could be construed to have principally benefited the Republic of Turkey.” According to the filing, Flynn’s company, Flynn Intel Group Inc., was paid at least $530,000 for the work.

Flynn’s contract ended on November 15, just three days before Trump appointed him national security adviser.
Still, the disclosure that Trump’s top campaign adviser on all issues of national security and foreign policy was receiving money to lobby on behalf of a foreign power all the way through Election Day is another black eye for Flynn, who has the rare distinction of having been fired by two US presidents (Barack Obama ousted him because of his mismanagement of the Defense Intelligence Agency). The FBI is also continuing to probe Flynn’s communications with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak in the aftermath of the election.

Here’s what we know.
It all starts with a bizarrely pro-Turkish op-ed Flynn wrote

Suspicions about Flynn’s ties to the Turkish government were sparked by an op-ed he wrote in the Hill on November 8 that basically read like a bald piece of Turkish propaganda. In it, Flynn, who had been Trump’s top national security aide during the campaign, slammed the outgoing Obama administration — and the US media more broadly — for not being supportive enough of Turkey’s autocratic leader, Recep Tayyip Erdoğan.
“The US media is doing a bang-up job of reporting the Erdoğan government’s crackdown on dissidents, but it’s not putting it into perspective,” Flynn writes. “We must begin with understanding that Turkey is vital to U.S. interests.”

In particular, Flynn railed against the Obama administration for harboring Fethullah Gülen, a moderate Muslim cleric and intellectual from Turkey who has lived in self-imposed exile in Pennsylvania since 1999. As my colleague Dylan Matthews writes, “Gülen preaches an inclusive brand of Sunni Islam that emphasizes cooperation and tolerance,” and his movement claims millions of followers in Turkey and around the world.

Erdoğan has, unconvincingly, pinned the attempted coup against him in July 2016 on Gülen and his followers. In September, Erdoğan formally asked the Obama administration to arrest Gülen on charges of "ordering and commanding the attempted coup” and demanded he be extradited to Turkey to stand trial. The Obama administration declined to do so, saying that Turkey hadn't provided persuasive evidence that Gülen was actually responsible for the coup.

In the op-ed, Flynn pushed a baseless conspiracy theory that Gülen and his movement were “a dangerous sleeper terror network” and criticized the Obama administration for being “hoodwinked by this masked source of terror and instability nestled comfortably in our own backyard in Pennsylvania.”

“From Turkey’s point of view, Washington is harboring Turkey’s Osama bin Laden,” Flynn wrote.“It is time we take a fresh look at the importance of Turkey and place our priorities in proper perspective,” he concluded. “We need to adjust our foreign policy to recognize Turkey as a priority. We need to see the world from Turkey’s perspective.”

The Daily Caller finds documents tying Flynn’s consulting firm to the Turkish government.
To summarize: A Trump campaign surrogate with substantial influence over the incoming president’s foreign policy views wrote an article parroting a conspiracy theory propagated by the Turkish government to justify a brutal and far-reaching crackdown on political dissent. That got some American journalists wondering if there was something more there. And sure enough, just three days after the op-ed ran, the Daily Caller published a stunning report showing very suggestive links between Flynn's consulting firm and the Turkish government.

In October 2014, shortly after he was fired from his job as director of the Defense Intelligence Agency, Flynn founded a consultancy called Flynn Intel Group Inc. The Daily Caller found documents showing a Dutch company called Inovo BV hired the Flynn Intel Group in August 2015 to lobby Congress on bills funding the departments of State and Defense.

Inovo was founded by a Turkish businessman named Ekim Alptekin, an Erdoğan ally who holds a top position on Turkey’s Foreign Economic Relations Board. Alptekin, the Daily Caller reports, even helped coordinate Erdoğan’s 2016 visit to the US. Flynn's consulting firm had already filed a lobbying disclosure to Congress stating that it was working for Inovo. But the disclosure did not include anything about the company’s ties to the Turkish government. And, as the AP report notes, “neither Flynn nor his company had filed paperwork with the Justice Department, which requires more extensive transparency about work that benefits foreign governments and political interests.”

After the Daily Caller report, Flynn’s company flatly denied having any ties to the Turkish government.

"Flynn Intel Group has no commercial relationship with the government of Turkey and Lt. General Michael Flynn's public statements on foreign affairs and national security issues are entirely his own," Robert Kelley, the Flynn Intel Group’s general counsel whose name was on the initial disclosure to Congress, said in a statement to Politico.

Alptekin also denied it, telling Politico, “I have absolutely no affiliation with the policies of the Turkish government.” Just so we’re clear here: The founder of Inovo, who serves on Turkey’s Foreign Economic Relations Board (members of which are chosen by Turkey’s general assembly and its minister of economy), denied that his company is affiliated with the Turkish government.

What the new Justice Department filings show
The new Justice Department documents essentially confirm that — contrary to the claims of both Kelley and Alptekin — the lobbying that Flynn Intel Group technically did for Inovo was actually being done on behalf of the Turkish government. The filings by Flynn attorney Robert Kelner merely state that the lobbying “could be construed to have principally benefited the Republic of Turkey,” and maintain that “Inovo is a privately owned company that has not received, directly or indirectly funds or financial support from any government during the course of its engagement of Flynn Intel Group Inc., including the Republic of Turkey.” But, again, the head of Inovo is literally a Turkish government appointee. And the Justice Department requires you to register as a foreign agent if the "principal beneficiary" of the work you’re doing is a foreign government, even if that foreign government is not the actual client.

And other details revealed in the filings leave little doubt about the ties to the Turkish government. From the AP report:

According to the new paperwork, Flynn's firm took on the Turkish-related lobbying work in August while he was a top Trump campaign surrogate. Flynn Intel disclosed in its filing that in mid-September, the company was invited by Alptekin to meet with Turkish officials in New York. Alptekin acknowledged Wednesday that he had set up the meeting between Flynn and the two officials. He said they met at an undisclosed hotel in New York. Alptekin said Flynn happened to be in New York while the Turkish officials were attending United Nations sessions and a separate conference Alptekin had arranged. "I asked one of Gen. Flynn's staff if he was in town and would be available to meet and they got in touch with him," said Alptekin, who owns several businesses in Turkey. Among those officials, the documents said, were Turkey's ministers of foreign affairs and energy. Flynn's company did not name the officials but reported the two worked for Turkey's government "to the best of Flynn Intel Group's current understanding."

The new filings also reveal that Inovo paid Flynn’s firm $535,000 between September 9 and November 15 for lobbying services.

The firm's assignment, per Politico, focused on Fethullah Gülen. According to the filing, Flynn Intel Group also met in October with a representative of the House Homeland Security Committee to discuss a technology developed by another Flynn Intel Group client. An unnamed US official “with direct knowledge of Flynn Intel's work” told Politico that “after discussing the technology, the firm changed the subject to Gulen, pressuring the committee to hold congressional hearings to investigate the cleric.”

In a letter to the Justice Department submitted as part of the filings, Kelner stated that the company had believed at the time that the congressional disclosure was sufficient but had now decided to retroactively register as a foreign agent. "Nevertheless, because of the subject matter of Flynn Intel Group's work for Inovo, which focused on Mr. Fethullah Gulen, whose extradition is sought by the Government of Turkey, the engagement could be construed to have principally benefited the Republic of Turkey," Kelner wrote.

On Thursday, an editorial note appeared at the bottom of Flynn’s November op-ed — the one denouncing Gülen and calling for his extradition — stating that Flynn did not disclose that he had received payment from Inovo, or that he had reviewed the draft with Alptekin, when he submitted the essay to the Hill.

Why any of this matters
The Justice Department filings state that Flynn’s firm had ceased operations in November, which means he wasn’t receiving money from the company with ties to the Turkish government while he was Trump’s national security adviser. But it was pretty damn close — he was literally acting as an agent of a foreign government right up to the point that he became Trump’s national security adviser, and during a time when he was acting as a top Trump campaign surrogate.

Given Trump's constant criticism during the campaign about the Clinton Foundation taking money from foreign countries, and Flynn’s own criticism of Hillary Clinton’s “lack of accountability,” this is pretty rich. Flynn also shot back at some of his military critics during the campaign who felt it inappropriate for a former military officer to be so involved in politics, accusing them of “[using] that title of ‘general’ or ‘admiral’ to get lucrative positions on corporate boards.” This while he was running his own consulting firm.

It's also just another notch in the bedpost of shady nondisclosures of ties to foreign governments by people in the Trump administration, and by Flynn in particular. Flynn was fired from his post as national security adviser amid growing questions about whether he had misled Vice President Mike Pence, and potentially the FBI, about his phone calls with Kislyak, the Russian envoy. These latest revelations suggest that Flynn’s failure to be fully forthcoming about his ties to a foreign government didn’t stop with Russia.

Disgraced Trump adviser Mike Flynn admits he worked as a "foreign agent" for the Turkish...

It turns out Flynn’s ties to foreign governments don’t stop at Russia.

Response by CPT Dennis Stevenson made Oct 18 at 2023 11:36 AM

CPT Dennis Stevenson — Wed, 18 Oct 2023 11:36:27 -0400

I'm hard-nosed about this-- Generals shouldn't lie: EVER.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 22 at 2023 7:55 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 22 Oct 2023 19:55:54 -0400

Yes Democratic setup.

Response by MSgt Rafael Cortes made Oct 31 at 2023 10:36 AM

MSgt Rafael Cortes — Tue, 31 Oct 2023 10:36:50 -0400

If i am correct he was never convicted, he was pardoned and then case dismissed so really I can not see how they can strip him of anything in regards to this case.

Response by SGT Bill Braniff made Nov 1 at 2023 12:27 PM

SGT Bill Braniff — Wed, 01 Nov 2023 12:27:52 -0400

I really think they would be better off if they left General Flynn alone.

Response by SFC Joseph Sheffield made Nov 1 at 2023 4:41 PM

SFC Joseph Sheffield — Wed, 01 Nov 2023 16:41:18 -0400

Was he tried before a court martial? Then his time in court is over and they already decided on his punishment. I don’t see how he can have another trial. And not all cases are held by court martial. Sometimes the state or county will demand the prisoner be prosecuted by the local authorities

Response by Sgt Fady Chaccour made Nov 1 at 2023 6:33 PM

Sgt Fady Chaccour — Wed, 01 Nov 2023 18:33:28 -0400

If you convict Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama and Joe Biden for the killing of US service men/women in bengazi, Iraq and Afghanistan maybe considering stripping him of benefits could be debated

Response by PO2 John Trujillo made Nov 1 at 2023 10:14 PM

PO2 John Trujillo — Wed, 01 Nov 2023 22:14:02 -0400

Yes. The rest is propaganda.

Response by 1LT Gerald Watson made Nov 2 at 2023 12:01 PM

1LT Gerald Watson — Thu, 02 Nov 2023 12:01:04 -0400

All soldiers are taught respect, teamwork, never leave anyone behind, and to lead by example. These requirements increase with rank. His actions rhetoric violated all of these requirements. He should be court marshalled and dishonorably discharged.
1 LT. Gerald J Watson, Viet Nam 1970-1971

Response by 1SG Donald Thomson made Nov 2 at 2023 1:32 PM

1SG Donald Thomson — Thu, 02 Nov 2023 13:32:37 -0400

The majority of people know that the charges were Bullshit to start out with. Mike Flynn deserves his retirement pension. He was a great Soldier his entire career. He continued the fight on another front, only to find out that he was walking into an ambush. You will always be "Out Front and on Top".

Response by SPC Tiffany Hill made Nov 2 at 2023 4:29 PM

SPC Tiffany Hill — Thu, 02 Nov 2023 16:29:49 -0400

Yes Michael Flynn should be courtmartialed. I would be courtmartialed if it was me and he is not above the law. Stop his benefits immediately he betrayed our country.

Response by SrA Mark ONeill made Nov 2 at 2023 9:00 PM

SrA Mark ONeill — Thu, 02 Nov 2023 21:00:50 -0400

Absolutely! He should hauled back in to face a court marshall. He is a traitor to this country. He was hoping it was going to work, and then the FORMER president would have appointed him to be Chairmen of the Joint Chiefs. Then holy hell would have us being the true bullies, and then his boss would have him do worse than the former KGB colonel.

Response by MSgt Matt Blevins made Nov 2 at 2023 11:23 PM

MSgt Matt Blevins — Thu, 02 Nov 2023 23:23:48 -0400

He was pardoned, thus NOT a convicted felon.

Response by SP5 Ray Bohn made Nov 3 at 2023 10:42 AM

SP5 Ray Bohn — Fri, 03 Nov 2023 10:42:44 -0400

I will be leaving this group. Too many frightening responses.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 3 at 2023 11:49 AM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 03 Nov 2023 11:49:35 -0400

Punish a man for lying to a whole bunch of layers is a shame. How can a bunch of crooks judge anyone?

Response by LCDR Dave Spurlock made Nov 4 at 2023 12:23 AM

LCDR Dave Spurlock — Sat, 04 Nov 2023 00:23:23 -0400

Yes he should still get retirement pay and VA benefits; no he should not be court marshaled!

Response by CPT Mike Sims made Nov 5 at 2023 1:42 PM

CPT Mike Sims — Sun, 05 Nov 2023 13:42:03 -0500

Once again, you have proven that you have been brainwashed and perhaps you have fantasies about sleeping with Hillary or Nancy - or even AOC and members of her squad. Your kind are the greatest threat to our children and the future of America because you support the downfall of America and the rise of socialism. You hide behind the mass numbers of Marxists rebels and crazed anti-Christian and anti-semitic ideologists. You were nothing more than an infiltrator into our military - and because you served during a time where Patriotism and Conservatism reigned in our ranks, your leaders discovered your true ambitions and treachery, and they squashed you like the bug you are - which is why you stopped at A1C. Crawl back under the rock from which you escaped, because the light of day shines bright on your stupidity and on your deception against America. You're dismissed. End of conversation.

Response by GySgt Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 5 at 2023 2:35 PM

GySgt Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 05 Nov 2023 14:35:48 -0500

Yes, he should receive his benefits and NO he should Not be court-martialed.

Response by SPC Matt Peeling made Nov 5 at 2023 5:52 PM

SPC Matt Peeling — Sun, 05 Nov 2023 17:52:30 -0500

He is a freakin crack pot and if it were you, you would lose everything. He too, should lose everything. The working people of this country need to stop believing that rich people have your best interest in mind. They don't! They only care about themselves. Stop believing the BS they are feeding you!

Response by MAJ Steve Daugherty made Nov 5 at 2023 6:46 PM

MAJ Steve Daugherty — Sun, 05 Nov 2023 18:46:40 -0500

He hasn’t done anything illegal while conducting his military duties. To be liable in retirement for military justice for a political vendetta would be the epitome of injustice similar to China or North Korea.

Response by LCpl Luther Brock made Nov 5 at 2023 7:19 PM

LCpl Luther Brock — Sun, 05 Nov 2023 19:19:02 -0500

Flynn is a traitor who collaborated with Russia. You figure it out.

Response by PO3 James Polichak made Nov 5 at 2023 8:43 PM

PO3 James Polichak — Sun, 05 Nov 2023 20:43:17 -0500

I knew someone who was over 65, disabled, and had been receiving a low income pension that did several years in prison for passing bad checks. He didn't receive any checks while he was in prison but started to again once he was released.
For two years he tried to the back checks to no avail.

Response by CPO Kurt Baschab made Nov 10 at 2023 4:59 PM

CPO Kurt Baschab — Fri, 10 Nov 2023 16:59:04 -0500

for the 1st time I Decided To vote a person commits down, just to see what would happen.
I was curious,

I have never voted anyone commits down, I read and move on

this was my very 1st attempt,

I just wanted to see what would happen.
what would happen if I hit the Thumbs down button ,
nothing at all,
would I be given a warning ?
would I be told if I attempted this again I would be removed from the sight?
would I get some stupid Computer generated Response, or a Response from the site Manager telling me It was wrong hateful , bigoted to vote thumbs down , that I am not a Roman emperor, therefore I am not allowed to be disagreeable or what ever the reason they wanted to post.

I was hoping that nothing would happen, other than me clicking the thumbs down,
like I stated earlier ,

I did it more out of curiosity , just to see if anything at all would happen,
my normal routine is to read the commits , if I like the commit, or agree sometimes I vote them up, if I do not like the commit, I normally just move on, no big deal.

I do not give it a second thought, sometimes I attempt to start A Friendly Discussion,
Why You Ask? if everyone is in 100% agreement, how do you know if you are correct if you cannot defend your belief's in a polite discussion.
how can you learn and evolve in your thinking if you are never challenged or question to defend your beliefs' in a polite debate.

if all you do is listen and speak in a echo chamber, you learn nothing, nor can you Politely and verbally defend your thoughts & Opinions.

I myself like to try and learn where others are comings from & Why? , I truly want to get there perspective, Maybe learn something from them, or Teach something, you cannot do this if everyone is in 100% agreement.
ANYWAY,
I clicked on the Thumbs down button , this is the Response I got from Rallypoint (RP)
I Quote
"Sorry, you must have an Influence Score of at least 15000 to vote down. Please build up your profile so people know more about you".

what kind of BS is this?

if (RP) allows you to vote up.
you should also be allowed to vote down.

I hate when people block free speech, thoughts and opinions .

Sadly I have notice the left does this a lot,
for some reason the left fears & Hates free speech,

the left fear those who say, I have a deferent thought, Opinion or If someone says I disagree with the Political policies and agenda of the Dem Party. the ,left looses there mind.
the Left become Verbally and Physically violent.

The Left will do everything in there power to prevent the person from being heard, the left has no problem using verbal & Physical Violence against those who disagree with them, or preventing them from speaking and being heard .

sadly I feel this is what RallyPoint (RP) is doing,
by only allowing you to only vote up, it gives the impression everyone is in agreement.

I do not know if this is being done unintentionally or on purpose.

I feel if you want to vote down someone commits , you should be allowed to do so, , not be told your thoughts and Opinions do not count, or matter unless you have a score of 15000

Response by SGT Carmen Allen made Nov 13 at 2023 7:52 AM

SGT Carmen Allen — Mon, 13 Nov 2023 07:52:17 -0500

Hey Y'all,

Hope everyone had a safe Veterans Day. I'm still wtg on medical bureaucracy. Hopeful a resolution ensues before Christmas.

I really have no opinion due to all the misinformation. However I did want to put this Wikipedia excerpt out there for context.

"In February 2016, Flynn became a national security advisor to Trump for his 2016 presidential campaign.[15][16] In March 2017, Flynn retroactively registered as a foreign agent, acknowledging that in 2016 he had conducted paid lobbying work that may have benefited Turkey's government.[17][18] On January 22, 2017, Flynn was sworn in as the National Security Advisor.[19] On February 13, 2017, he resigned after information surfaced that he had misled Vice President Mike Pence and others about the nature and content of his communications with Kislyak.[20][21][22] Flynn's tenure as the National Security Advisor is the shortest in the history of the position.[23][24]

In December 2017, Flynn formalized a deal with Special Counsel Robert Mueller to plead guilty to a felony count of "willfully and knowingly" making false statements to the FBI about the Kislyak communications, and agreed to cooperate with the Special Counsel's investigation.[25] In June 2019, Flynn dismissed his attorneys and retained Sidney Powell, who on the same day wrote to attorney general Bill Barr seeking his assistance in exonerating Flynn. Powell had discussed the case on Fox News and spoken to President Trump about it on several occasions.[26][27][28] Two weeks before his scheduled sentencing, in January 2020 Flynn moved to withdraw his guilty plea, claiming government vindictiveness and breach of the plea agreement.[29] At Barr's direction, the Justice Department filed a court motion to drop all charges against Flynn on May 7, 2020.[30][31] Presiding federal judge Emmet Sullivan ruled the matter to be placed on hold to solicit amicus curiae briefs from third parties.[32] Powell then asked the DC Circuit Court of Appeals to compel Sullivan to drop the case, but her request was denied.[33] On November 25, 2020, Flynn was issued a presidential pardon by Trump.[34] On December 8, 2020, Judge Sullivan dismissed the criminal case against Flynn, stating he probably would have denied the Justice Department motion to drop the case.[35]

On July 4, 2020, Flynn pledged an oath to the pro-Trump QAnon conspiracy theory,[36] and as Trump sought to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election in which he was defeated, Flynn suggested the president should suspend the Constitution, silence the press, and hold a new election under military authority.[37] Flynn later met with Trump and their attorney Powell in the Oval Office to discuss the president's options. Trump denied reports that Flynn's martial law idea had been discussed.[38][39][40] Flynn has since become a prominent leader in the Christian nationalist movement, organizing and recruiting for what he characterizes as a spiritual and political war.[41][42]"

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 12 at 2023 3:31 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 12 Dec 2023 15:31:50 -0500

I could be wrong about this but I don't believe retired military personnel who are later convicted of felonies can receive retired pay. LTC Oliver North retired from the Marine Corps in the wake of the Iran-Contra scandal and was later convicted in federal court of charges related to that scandal. It was reported on various news agencies at the time that his military pension was stopped because of this. His convictions were later overturned on appeal and once that happened his pension was reinstated. Now this was in the late 1980's. I don't know if that's still the standard today.

Response by SSG Michael Doolittle made Dec 13 at 2023 2:33 AM

SSG Michael Doolittle — Wed, 13 Dec 2023 02:33:26 -0500

COURTS MARTIALED

Response by SFC Benjamin Varlese made Dec 13 at 2023 10:56 AM

SFC Benjamin Varlese — Wed, 13 Dec 2023 10:56:55 -0500

There are thousands of former service members who were convicted of felonies after (and even during) service and still are receiving C&P. What precedent justifies making Flynn a special case that isn’t entirely politically motivated? The prolific TDS that has metastasized in the military, especially amongst senior officers and NCO, knows no bounds if this post is even under discussion

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 13 at 2023 12:28 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 13 Dec 2023 12:28:31 -0500

This Guy should be locked up or shot by firing squad. Selling out your own country is an act of treason and if I still believe that till this very it's punishable by death. If not life in federal prison.

Response by PFC Tim Arnett made Dec 13 at 2023 8:57 PM

PFC Tim Arnett — Wed, 13 Dec 2023 20:57:56 -0500

What Civilian Flynn (formerly Officer Flynn) deserves from his time in uniform shouldn't be removed. How the Civil Law had judged him ought to be suffiicient punishment. Many others have been indicted and punished both inside the Military as well as the Civilian courts. Although I don't agree with his actions, I do not believe his military record and due reward for serving should be forfeited.

Response by Amn James Clark made Dec 14 at 2023 9:20 AM

Amn James Clark — Thu, 14 Dec 2023 09:20:16 -0500

As long as he continues to present himself as a General of the United States Army, retired or not, then he should be expected to be subject to the UCMJ.

Response by Col Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 14 at 2023 5:19 PM

Col Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 14 Dec 2023 17:19:22 -0500

The police can lie to you and it is not illegal.

Response by MAJ Dennis Foote made Dec 15 at 2023 2:23 PM

MAJ Dennis Foote — Fri, 15 Dec 2023 14:23:13 -0500

If you play in Donald Trump's cesspool, you will come out smelling like ---you know what. Michael Flynn, among others is a prime example.

Response by PO2 L R made Dec 16 at 2023 1:23 PM

PO2 L R — Sat, 16 Dec 2023 13:23:05 -0500

I see doublestandard written all over the OP. Maybe you should ask about all those who lied prior including every single person including the JCS etc....

Response by CW3 Charles Morris made Dec 25 at 2023 12:01 PM

CW3 Charles Morris — Mon, 25 Dec 2023 12:01:08 -0500

I'm less worried about this issue and more concerned about him becoming SecDef if Donald J. Trump regains the presidency. Michael Flynn would provide no guardrails on the use of the military under Trump.

Response by PO1 Keith Calhoun made Jan 16 at 2024 3:59 PM

PO1 Keith Calhoun — Tue, 16 Jan 2024 15:59:58 -0500

I think this guy is trash and guilty for more than lying. I think he needs to out with all of the trump trash

Response by CPL Timothy Coffey made Jan 17 at 2024 1:22 AM

CPL Timothy Coffey — Wed, 17 Jan 2024 01:22:09 -0500

You need to split the questions. He should be paid and the State of our politics should look careful at any conviction. We have a right to be protected by our Government from invasions but they don’t do that job. Point is our Government is not in a position to convict anyone why they do nothing to protect us on Southern border. Pay the Man for the job he did do.

Response by SP5 Thomas Boden made Jan 17 at 2024 1:30 PM

SP5 Thomas Boden — Wed, 17 Jan 2024 13:30:25 -0500

No he should forfeit his retirement or at least be reduced in Rank to the lowest Rank permitted by the UCMJ..

Response by Jaydon Hensley made Jan 22 at 2024 11:21 PM

Jaydon Hensley — Mon, 22 Jan 2024 23:21:56 -0500

Hey! Seems like a complex situation. If Michael Flynn is a retired military general and still entitled to benefits, the decision on whether he should receive those benefits or face court-martial might involve legal considerations. It could be helpful to consult with legal experts or check military regulations to better understand the specifics of the situation. Legal matters in the military can be quite intricate, so seeking professional advice might provide more clarity on how regulations apply in this case.

Response by COL Ralph Bryan Hanes made Feb 5 at 2024 8:22 PM

COL Ralph Bryan Hanes — Mon, 05 Feb 2024 20:22:40 -0500

This subject has been litigated in all types of media. Flynn was and is an honorable man and soldier caught between a rock and a hard place. He made some judgement calls that I consider to be ill advised. I do not believe that he deserves to face courts martial for any of them. He has paid many a very dear price for his lapses in judgement. I am not sure why the subject has popped up again. I hope that we can put a stake through its heart once and for all.

Response by Maj Gordon Hunter made Feb 19 at 2024 10:22 AM

Maj Gordon Hunter — Mon, 19 Feb 2024 10:22:56 -0500

Maybe not as a convicted felon, but certainly on the basis of treasonous actions, advocating the overthrow of government, and working to enable attempted insurrection.

Response by Cpl Adam Heywood made Feb 29 at 2024 7:58 PM

Cpl Adam Heywood — Thu, 29 Feb 2024 19:58:46 -0500

Not, in this case, but gen. millie should be brought up on mutiny and treason.

Response by 1SG Dean Mcbride (MPER) (CPHR) made Mar 17 at 2024 9:15 PM

1SG Dean Mcbride (MPER) (CPHR) — Sun, 17 Mar 2024 21:15:48 -0400

President Trump pardoned his former national security adviser Michael Flynn. That's it -- cut and dried... He gets his earned benefits and cannot be tried or convicted of the same crime! It is outrageous to even consider taking benefits away from a man with his distinguished career!

Response by 1SG Dave Kling made Mar 18 at 2024 8:32 PM

1SG Dave Kling — Mon, 18 Mar 2024 20:32:09 -0400

His whole prosecution was political bullshit. With the military bows to these assholes holding any office from the president on down should be ashamed of themselves.

Response by TSgt David Olson made Mar 19 at 2024 6:45 PM

TSgt David Olson — Tue, 19 Mar 2024 18:45:21 -0400

I don’t remember his case. As long as he did nothing against the military, let him walk.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 19 at 2024 8:03 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 19 Mar 2024 20:03:42 -0400

Rule 1) everything is on the record
Rule 2) always have a lawyer

Response by 1SG John Millan made Mar 19 at 2024 9:25 PM

1SG John Millan — Tue, 19 Mar 2024 21:25:28 -0400

I’m hoping if Trump gets in Clapper and Kirby are court martialed, complete disgraces.

Response by SSG Dale London made Mar 19 at 2024 9:28 PM

SSG Dale London — Tue, 19 Mar 2024 21:28:15 -0400

Ah, but a presidential pardon erases the conviction and resets the scales. The subject of his guilt or innocence is no longer a matter for judicial discussion. Trump restored his status. Discussion closed.

Response by SPC Darren Lopez made Mar 19 at 2024 11:42 PM

SPC Darren Lopez — Tue, 19 Mar 2024 23:42:11 -0400

“If convicted., say what DODCAC/DefComAlpha?”

Response by MSgt Mark Gibson made Mar 20 at 2024 6:13 PM

MSgt Mark Gibson — Wed, 20 Mar 2024 18:13:15 -0400

What’s the difference between him and general David Petraeus? He committed adultry, provided his adulterous lover classified documents etc…

Response by WO1 Frederick Schutte IV made Mar 20 at 2024 7:17 PM

WO1 Frederick Schutte IV — Wed, 20 Mar 2024 19:17:20 -0400

I have seen this post several times, so now let’s get the facts straight.
1. General Flynn is not a convicted felon. He was never convicted by trial, he did enter a plea in his best interest, and thereafter was adjudicated guilty by a Judge.
2. He received a full presidential pardon, accordingly the adjudication and sentence were removed from his record, rendering him a person without conviction.
3. As there is no crime, there is nothing to invoke jurisdiction of the UCMJ.

Response by SFC Timothy Ross made Mar 21 at 2024 9:17 AM

SFC Timothy Ross — Thu, 21 Mar 2024 09:17:51 -0400

General Flynn was a tool used by the communist Democrats to weaken our moral integrity, and scare others in the future from joining a administration promoting truth, justice and the American way of life. Leave this man and his pension alone.

Response by PO2 Bernard Spriggs Jr made Mar 21 at 2024 5:33 PM

PO2 Bernard Spriggs Jr — Thu, 21 Mar 2024 17:33:51 -0400

In MY OPINION: He should be reactivated and Court-Martialed because he Betrayed the uniform and his Oath although he was convicted of the felonies he then received a Presidential pardon. Which means he keeps his benefits because he was not imprisoned.
FROM VA.GOV: Veterans who receive VA pension payments will have their benefits terminated on the 61st day after being imprisoned for a felony conviction.

Response by SMSgt Philip Kluberdanz made Apr 23 at 2024 2:32 PM

SMSgt Philip Kluberdanz — Tue, 23 Apr 2024 14:32:39 -0400

Lieutenant general Flynn was granted a full pardon by the president of the United States of America.

Response by CAPT Frank Nice made Apr 23 at 2024 3:39 PM

CAPT Frank Nice — Tue, 23 Apr 2024 15:39:30 -0400

Give me a break. The Deep State got Flynn just as it is still trying to get Trump and can get you or me at any time, also.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 24 at 2024 7:22 PM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 24 Apr 2024 19:22:55 -0400

Absolutely.

Response by COL Andrew Burns made May 7 at 2024 5:10 PM

COL Andrew Burns — Tue, 07 May 2024 17:10:11 -0400

UCMJ is one thing. GEN Flynn served the nation with honor and integrity. Now you are saying that he is retirement should be taken? He was working in a civilian capacity and therefore did not bring dishonor on the Army. This was a civilian matter that he was forced to plead to to protect his family...son. Please do not stumble in anything that your= do in the future.......because maybe this old IG will wait and bring charges on you!!!!!!

Response by SGT Chris Ferrell made May 17 at 2024 8:37 AM

SGT Chris Ferrell — Fri, 17 May 2024 08:37:24 -0400

He should still receive his benefits as they are a totally separate issue from the charges which were not UCMJ related whatsoever.

Response by SGT Frankie Hice made May 17 at 2024 8:49 PM

SGT Frankie Hice — Fri, 17 May 2024 20:49:24 -0400

Wasn't He pardoned????? I'm much more concerned about General Mark A. Milley, saying he would warn China about an attack!!!

Response by SP5 Robert Kennedy made May 18 at 2024 10:53 AM

SP5 Robert Kennedy — Sat, 18 May 2024 10:53:16 -0400

My take in this up is down, right is wrong, woke is no joke and easily bruised feelings: Have you ever seen anything like what America is experiencing now? It was horrific to me when I was making my way to the airport gate at the Seattle airport for the final leg on my trip home from Vietnam on December 19, 1968 and a gaggle of hippies descended on me calling me names - baby killer- no less. Less than an hour earlier as I was being cleaned-up, dressed in a new clean uniform and advised of the likelihood of such an engagement - and that any exchange with them would be a Court Marshall event for me, I WAS SHOCKED!
But... in my wildest imagination I have never seen anything like what is playing out in a slow-motion nightmare today. The things that I'm seeing, hearing and experiencing do not fit in the America I served so many years ago. The military and retired military are being sucked into the vacuum of wokeness, and the Courts are sending people to prison for things that years earlier would've been honored. I like the man who was sucked into infamy - for nothing I saw him deserving of the penalties that good people are being punished for. Call me crazy, but I don't like the transition the military is morphing into.

Response by CDR Cynthia Ramsey made May 18 at 2024 10:01 PM

CDR Cynthia Ramsey — Sat, 18 May 2024 22:01:31 -0400

He should be reduced in rank AT MINIMUM