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This opinion piece is just as full of toxic masculinity as the WSJ opinion article. She doesn't insist on being called "Dr." I haven't seen anything where she insists on it. She has a doctorate - she can be called Doctor. I have a few friends who have a doctorate - they get referred to as Dr and aren't medical professionals.

Why is it SUCH a big f* deal that she goes by "Dr" when she has a doctorate? Notice how it's these males who have an issue with it.

This is why you don't have a lot of females in certain fields - we constantly get torn down. Our entire lives whether some of you want to admit it or not society tears women down from all sides. From men, from other women. It's damn ridiculous.

If someone has a doctorate, they can be called "Dr" just deal with it. Move along - there are much bigger issues in this country than her having a "Dr" title.
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MAJ Dale E. Wilson, Ph.D.
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LTC Kevin B. It's not what I was told by many RP members who asked me to go to bat for him.
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MAJ Dale E. Wilson, Ph.D. - And those members are also going off of false information.
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MAJ Dale E. Wilson, Ph.D.
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LTC Kevin B. - Well, why not PM me with the facts, sir?
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MAJ Dale E. Wilson, Ph.D. - What makes you think you deserve a special explanation, especially given that you're out here openly perpetuating a completely false accusation?
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LTC Kevin B.
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Would we trust someone's opinion of SF operations if they never even went to SF school?
Would we trust someone's opinion of Ranger operations if they never even went to Ranger school?
Would we trust someone's opinion of Airborne operations if they never even went to Airborne school?

That's what we have here. The film critic without any graduate degree or any expertise in the field of education has zero standing to make those assertions about her work. Nothing to see here but someone struggling to generate hate.
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LTC Kevin B. - Sir, I will indulge you for a moment because Ms. Biden doesn’t deserve any more time. With all due respect, how can you support a dissertation with some of the following quotes:

Page 16: “The logical conclusion is that high schools are graduating students who are ill prepared for the rigors of college.” Well, there’s the assessment of a rocket scientist… Oh, I’m sorry: a “Doctor”.

Her conclusion on pages 37 and 38 is weak with no specific proposals to fix her perceived deficiency of too many ill prepared students dropping out of college. She just speaks platitudes like: “Physically disabled and mentally challenged students are protected and offered services through the American with Disabilities Act of 1992.”, she doesn’t explain how the college will make this work. In my opinion anyone can write like this, and unfortunately too many times do.

The bottom line is this paper is full of type overs, and just rambles on continually to fill pages. Her logic is suspect, and her critical reasoning to put all this together is just nonexistent, that’s why the paper rambles. That someone received a degree for this writing IMO is a stain on the conferring organization.

Maybe she doesn’t ask for people to call her by the title of Doctor, but when she’s married to a person who put others down because of their IQ, and told lies about his own education, she then makes herself fair game. In my opinion if she were decent Ms. Biden would say something like “Please, outside professional gatherings I don’t use titles”. It appears she likes the attention, and she is going to receive it, maybe not how she wants. I work with a lot of professionals and I can put some parts of the alphabet after my name, the bottom line is when we not working professionally, we don’t because to do so is pompous. When laypeople read such an obviously flawed dissertation, and have people pushing a title down their throats from a person who wrote things they don’t agree with, well all I can say is most people get what they deserve. MHO
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LTC Kevin B.
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SFC (Join to see) - I'd be willing to bet that I could review every post you've ever made on RP and not be able to find any posts where you have critiqued the dissertation of any other doctoral-degree holding person. So, this really isn't about her and her dissertation. This appears to really be about one of two things. First, it could simply be that she is a soft target and you are going after her, when your real angst is against Joe Biden and his policies. In that case, it would be rather cowardly. You should just own that, or go directly against Joe Biden. Second, you are against women pursuing advanced degrees and having standing within their chosen profession. That is misogynistic. Otherwise, I can't see any real reason that you, and some of the others on here who are attacking her, would really give a crap about a dissertation from over a decade ago, at a university you probably didn't attend, within a discipline that you don't have expertise. So, with all of that being said, what is your real motivation for attacking her? Just be candid, and stop hiding behind some pursuit of high-quality scholarly works within the field of Education.
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LTC Kevin B. - Sir, You called me a coward, a hater, and prejudice. Focus, stay on point! We are discussing the quality of a dissertation that was used to confirm a PhD for a very political person on social media. Shame on you for personally attacking a fellow service member, or anybody for that matter.

The only personal observation I will make is that you are typical of the Left: When I bring serious comments to the table to discuss, and you can’t repudiate them, you attack me personally. This is typical of Socialist, Communist leaning individuals. MHO

You don't need to worry any further Sir. I don’t converse with people who will slander people over honest debate. You will not hear from me again.
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LTC Kevin B.
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SFC (Join to see) - I didn't call you a coward. I proposed a potential explanation, which could be viewed as cowardly (and is, in my opinion). I also proposed another explanation. I also asked you for your explanation. Don't be so quickly and easily offended.

First, she doesn't have a PhD. She has an Ed.D. Those are two different degrees that happen to be at the same doctoral level. Second, she is not a political person; she is married to a political person. She is no more of a political person than Melania Trump, or Ann Romney, or Cindy McCain, or Laura Bush. Proximity to a politician doesn't make her a politician.

Also, don't be so quick to throw out the liberal card. You don't know my stances on many issues. You only know that I'm not receptive to political attacks on a woman who isn't a politician, by people who are attacking her scholarly work when they have no/little experience or expertise in her academic discipline.
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Thank you my friend MAJ Dale E. Wilson, Ph.D. for posting for posting the perspective from yahoo by Kyle Smith - this seems to be tongue-in-cheek
Yes Jill Biden as an educational doctorate Ed.D. whish is a legitimate doctorate. The implications of where she was awarded the degree is another matter.

To be honest, people who are awarded a PHD, Ed.D are actually authorized to be to be called Doctor.
I concur that people high in the government should be wary about playing the honorific title stridently :-)

WSJ stands by op-ed saying Jill Biden should drop 'doctor' title
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wax_CW1QCp8




"Mrs. Biden wanted the credential for its own sake. As for its quality, well. She got it from the University of Delaware, whose ties to her husband, its most illustrious alumnus if you don’t count Joe Flacco, run so deep that it has a school of public policy named after him. That the University of Delaware would have rejected her 2006 dissertation as sloppy, poorly written, non-academic, and barely fit for a middle-school Social Studies classroom (all of which it is) when her husband had been representing its state in the U.S. Senate for more than three decades was about as likely as Tom Hagen telling Vito Corleone that his wife is a fat sow on payday. The only risk to the University of Delaware was that it might strain its collective wrist in its rush to rubber-stamp her doctoral paper. Mrs. Biden could have turned in a quarter-a**ed excuse for a magazine article written at the level of Simple English Wikipedia and been heartily congratulated by the university for her towering mastery. Which is exactly what happened."

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