SGT Robert Cupp 6560540 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I&#39;m considering reclassing to one of these jobs but I need more information on them. What are they like? Duties? What goes into them? Are these good jobs for a guy in his mid 30&#39;s? 2020-12-07T19:07:42-05:00 SGT Robert Cupp 6560540

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I&#39;m considering reclassing to one of these jobs but I need more information on them. What are they like? Duties? What goes into them? Are these good jobs for a guy in his mid 30&#39;s?

2020-12-07T19:07:42-05:00 2020-12-07T19:07:42-05:00 CPL(P) Private RallyPoint Member 6560576

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I was slotted as a 19D in a cavalry unit. 19D school is not physically hard at all, most mental than anything as you have to know how to put together various weapon systems and how to operate them. However, I went through ARNG RTI school for the reclass. I don&#39;t know how active duty 19D school works. I was a MGS gunner, all I did most of the time was spent doing gunnery tables. That being said, you are the eyes and ears of the brigade setting up OPs or supporting the various infantry companies. There are guys in their 30&#39;s that are doing this, so I don&#39;t know why you shouldn&#39;t be able to do it.

2020-12-07T19:18:13-05:00 2020-12-07T19:18:13-05:00 SGT Private RallyPoint Member 6560737

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>If you’re infantry go 13F we are always hiring and you’ll feel more at home. We do all the training with the infantry without the extra bullshit.

2020-12-07T20:25:39-05:00 2020-12-07T20:25:39-05:00 CPT Private RallyPoint Member 6560750

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>13J: a lot of math and steep learning curve to understand manual gunnery. You’ll be stepping out of the tactical expertise and into the technical world, fighting out of the back of a trailer. You’re mission is calculating the data for an artillery round to impact exactly where you want it to.

2020-12-07T20:33:48-05:00 2020-12-07T20:33:48-05:00 Capt Gregory Prickett 6560769

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>In my experience (keep in mind this is 20 years ago), 19D was just as difficult as an 11B in a mech unit, except you were likely to be way out front of the main body. Less combat emphasis and more recon oriented.<br /><br />You&#39;ll have to ask someone else about the redleg job.

2020-12-07T20:44:15-05:00 2020-12-07T20:44:15-05:00 CW2 Private RallyPoint Member 6561019

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Robert. There are LOTS of other options out there. Warrant, Enlisted Aide, SF/CA/PO, Attache. Don&#39;t just settle for 13J or 19D.<br />I was a 19D, and lemme tell you. We walked everywhere, shot every weapon system, etc. The old addage &quot; It&#39;s just like the Infantry&quot; is true, especially in a COIN fight in which the Scouts don&#39;t really have to do Scout stuff. But in a Decisive Action fight, the Scouts will be further into enemy territory than the Infantry, and with less support. Their job is NOT to engage the enemy - that&#39;s the big difference between 11B and 19D. 11B close with and destroy, 19D observe and report...and watch the 11s do what they do best, and provide fires. 19Ds also have a major anti-tank role.<br /><br />Does it sound like something for a guy who, like me, has had the world beat on him for a while physically?<br /><br />IDK about 13J, but I know it&#39;s NOT the F or B...so prob sitting behind a computer handling all the fires coming in. Super essential, super technical with math and analysis.<br /><br />Do either really help you towards a job when you ETS/retire? Not really no, and neither does 11B. Hint - civilian corporations don&#39;t give a damn about 19D SLC or 13J ALC no matter how much we church up the &quot;leadership&quot; aspects of em.<br /><br />Depending on ASVAB skill and if you can nug out a 10 day Selection I highly recommend taking CA and PSYOP a look, both get a LOT of 11B and 19D looking for something more, more useful, and not as &quot;evil&quot; to the body. Attache is one thing I always wanted to do but wasn&#39;t able to meet one of the requirements. That&#39;s an amazing opportunity (and a Warrant feeder).<br />Warrant jobs that don&#39;t require a Feeder right now - 880A, 881A, and others with specific quals (like master gunner or stuff) check out the websites for Attache, CA/PSYOP, and Warrant and attend a briefing for all (they usually announce in email, or just reach out to them)

2020-12-07T22:16:49-05:00 2020-12-07T22:16:49-05:00 SGT Private RallyPoint Member 6561065

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I was originally a 13p (fdc for mlrs/himars) which was pretty much the same as a 13d (fdc for howitzers without the charts and darts). From my understanding both of them combined into the 13j mos as I was randomly awarded it on my dd214 when I got out. <br /><br />I disliked being a 13p because its so different than what I had in mind of being in the Army. Only our LAST exercise in AIT was in the field, and it had nothing to do directly with the job but just basic soldier skills. Our test portion was in the classroom that we never left until we had one field week at the very end where we just did mock squad vs squad training exercises. The other six weeks were just us trying to stay conscious in the classroom. Which wasn&#39;t hard, but very boring. We finally tested out the 2nd to last week and were told we would fail if we got less than a 90/100. I got a 93/100 and thought I was cutting it close. I think I missed entering some weather data. Another guy got a 70/100 and was with me on deployment....<br /><br />I will throw this caveat out though. It seems that Redlegs are the pick of the combat arms litter when you have a deployment that needs somebody that combat support can&#39;t provide. At least in the NG. I only know a handful of guys who have deployed in the NG as Artillerymen, everybody else has some kind of non standard deployment as a Redleg. I went to Africa as a glorified military policeman and performed a mission that had nothing to do with Artillery. Our himars were at home. Pretty safe. On that deployment there were other guys who deployed to Iraq as convoy security early in the war and got messed up big time with serious casualties. The unit we were attached to did the same in Afghanistan. I&#39;m fairly certain I have read about one of the airborne FA units deploying as ad-hoc infantry as well. So keep that in mind. <br /><br />I think part of my problem with FDC was I was never able to get good at it. I&#39;ve always liked something I was allowed to grow into, so we spent all that time training FDC, got out of AIT, spent two months drilling with my FA unit and was sent to Africa. When I got back home, our unit became a transportation company and I was allowed to reclass 12b. I never really got to do the job outside of AIT, and most of the guys that actually had been FA, especially the guys in the paladin unit we were attached to, seemed to like it much better. My guess is that in the paladin units FDC isn&#39;t usually too far away from the guns, which can direct fire, so there is an excitement of something actually happening and the other guys knew that there was a chance that they could deploy again as 13 series guys who weren&#39;t infantry, but weren&#39;t currently FA and could kind of have a deployment where they floated around doing only missions and none of the stupid shit because they would be a FA battery attached to an engineer headquarters or something crazy like that. <br /><br />HOWEVER, like you I&#39;m feeling the age, but also want back in, so I have considered going back to it for 20,000. <br /><br />TLDR, I think FDC is somewhat boring, but it would better suit me now than it did when I actually held the MOS.<br /><br />To me going 19d as an 11b would be like a 12b going 11b. Sappers run around with everyone and while it isn&#39;t exactly the same.............it is not dissimilar. I guess maybe you would ride more as a 19d?

2020-12-07T22:56:50-05:00 2020-12-07T22:56:50-05:00 SGT Robert Cupp 6561129

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Can any artillery guys tell me what all goes into computing the aiming data for the guns? What sort of math is involved? Is it easy to pick up and learn?

2020-12-08T00:03:36-05:00 2020-12-08T00:03:36-05:00 SSG Private RallyPoint Member 6564364

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Cab Scout here.... there is a reason that we are always so understrengthed. Yeah... we get to do cool shit here and there. I’ve shot damn near almost every weapon system you can other than artillery pieces and tanks. I’ve been apart of some badass training and you get some really neat schools assuming you have good leadership who doesn’t get in the way of said learning/progression. The thing is, for every good/ cool thing there is 3 or more not so good things. If you are at that age, I highly recommend doing something else. Scouting is not kid to the body. I’m in my late 20s and my body is destroyed already. There are so many other better opportunities tbh. Don’t do it to yourself. Find something that is meaningful for when you get out.

2020-12-09T02:41:56-05:00 2020-12-09T02:41:56-05:00 SPC Private RallyPoint Member 6709701

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Good evening SGT! I&#39;m a 13J for a cannon battery. You essentially have three parts to the field artillery: The eyes (13F), the muscle (13B), and the brain (13J). If you go to a cannon unit, you have to be good at both manual gunnery (charts and darts) as well as using the AFATDS whereas rocket units use only AFATDS. It should also be noted that as an NCO, you will also have to learn safety. It&#39;s not very physically demanding in the grand scheme of things; perhaps the most physical activity you&#39;ll normally do is setting up your OE254, your FDC, things of that nature. You need to be mentally sharp as reading a single number wrong can be the difference between a round hitting the enemy and your own guys. It&#39;s sort of low speed per say, but like I said previously, it&#39;s more about being smart than strong. Hope this helps!

2021-01-31T20:24:21-05:00 2021-01-31T20:24:21-05:00 SPC Alexander Bendyna III 6890788

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Scout is a fun job. You&#39;re out ahead of the main force, calling in troop movements, confucting reconnaissance, calling in fire and a bunch of other stuff. Its hard work, a light scout gets put through the ringer. I had a PSG who saddled me with the radio back, CLU, Javelin, and M240B with 200 rounds plus my own M4 and assault bag. We sprinted through some rough terrain to get eyes on some tanks and engage them with the Javelin. I was so damn tired when I got into position that I couldn&#39;t control my breathing. But what will truly make the difference of whether you enjoy being a scout is your unit. CAV units are typically good to their scouts. Some infantry units treat their scouts like dirt.

2021-04-09T23:53:39-04:00 2021-04-09T23:53:39-04:00 SPC Private RallyPoint Member 6903124

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I&#39;m 13j<br />Cons: go to the field ALOT, depending where you&#39;re stationed depends on how long you go to field. At campbell sometimes we will go twice a month but, usually at least once especially during summer. Places like korea, or in TX you will go for longer periods, weeks at a time.<br />-when not in the field we have absolutely no job, therefore many layouts and busy work.<br />-places like campbell must be safety certified as a sgt. or will kick you out for failure to adapt.(can not operate the box, the AFATDS, without being safety certified)<br />-safety is very complicated, but not impossible if dedicated. It is math and conversions, you will take a 4 hour test on it, and have to every 6 months to be certified.<br />-very competitive for chief as E5 or E6<br />-alot of certs you have to complete in the field, that require digging roles, cwire, and certain amount of rounds shot. The certs are only good for couple months then you just keep redoing them. <br />Pros:<br />-the cannons are cool to watch lol<br />-only about 6ish people you&#39;re in a section with. (most of the time FDC&#39;s are very low manned)<br />-not as bad as 13B, who is also in the battery.

2021-04-14T22:04:16-04:00 2021-04-14T22:04:16-04:00 2020-12-07T19:07:42-05:00