Posted on Nov 19, 2016
What Is More Important: Our Privacy or National Security?
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Those who would give up Liberty (or Privacy) for Security deserve neither and end up losing both.
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MSgt Steven Holt, NRP, CCEMT-P
By giving up personal privacy, people allow the government into their lives in ways that should not be happening (ie: government gets access to your medical information, sees you have guns in your house, declares you a terrorist and puts you on a 'no-fly' and threat list.). Anytime the government gets involved with something, the reach ALWAYS goes way beyond what is envisioned or expected (re: SSA, Welfare, IRS, Dept of (un)Education, etc). The government then creates new laws to restrict the activities it sees as "bad" or "undesirable". At this point, you have created a totalitarian regime where there is no privacy and the government is free to do as it pleases with no security for its citizens.
Hopefully, the illustration I've painted here is an extreme case scenario but it would be very easy for over-zealous politicians to create just such an environment.
Hopefully, the illustration I've painted here is an extreme case scenario but it would be very easy for over-zealous politicians to create just such an environment.
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If war is declared.....National Security. If war is not declared.....Privacy. So as for right now, Privacy is more important as the shores of the United States are not threatened with attack or invasion. All we face is a threat from terrorism which is a far lesser threat than conventional conflict.
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SSG Shavonde Chase
That's an interesting viewpoint. However, others might argue the opposite because you never know who the terrorist are. How do you feel about this?
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SPC Erich Guenther
SSG Shavonde Chase - The fear of terrorists is overblown in this country and I do not think we should sacrifice privacy due to paranoia. It is very, very expensive to mount a terrorist operation in the United States from overseas and beyond the financial means of most terrorist groups. So in a way the Oceans still protect us, we do need to worry about lone wolf people but I think what has really saved us from another 9-11 type terrorist attack has been lack of funds on the part of terrorist groups that want to execute it as well as awareness on this side of the Atlantic that there are terrorists that want to inflict mass casualties.
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Privacy is a thing of the past. Your personal information is collected and sold anytime you do anything online. Smart phones/computers can be manipulated to remotely turn on the mic or camera or remotely install/run malware. Then you have the Telcom's collecting and passing personal info to the alphabet agencies.
So Security is most important by default, since Privacy doesn't really exist anymore. Call me a pessimist. :)
So Security is most important by default, since Privacy doesn't really exist anymore. Call me a pessimist. :)
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no, I'd say you're a realist, the fact of life is that our expectation of privacy used to end when we walked out our door but anymore not so much, the net and especially social media has brought a whole new level of scrutiny but as long as we are aware of it then hopefully we will act accordingly, the group Anonymous discovered earlier this year that certain terror cells were using the chat feature in game systems such as PlayStation, this because it leaves no traces of the conversation to trace, they have long been embedding comms in pictures because without the encrypt/decrypt code it just looks like a photo, so our experts have to remain vigilant to keep us safe
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