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I will try to explain this in the shortest way possible.
Joined the NG in DEC 2011, was a junior in high school at the time. Told them to give me the longest contract. They put me in for an 8 year contract, two years RSP and six at my actual unit. My initial contract paperwork signed at MEPS reflects this.
Come MAR 2017, my 1stSGT comes to me and tells me I'm a year out from my ETS and asks about reenlistment. I said yes and told him to put me in for another six. So much time had passed (at that point 6 years) I didnt even realize or remember for that fact about my initial 8 year contract, but if a 1stSGT comes to me and tells me something, I'm going to believe him.
The point of all of this is that according to my initial contract, my ETS shouldnt have been until DEC 2019. They asked me about reenlistment two years early and somehow it got approved. I have taken all of this to S1, and they sent me home stating that there is no such thing as an eight year contract, despite it physically being in their hands on the paperwork I provided. I am trying to get my current reenlistment contact nullified and have my record changed to reflect that I am currently still in my first contract so I can reenlist with my new unit in the NJ NG. What are your thoughts on all of this. Have any of you heard of a 2+6 contract? How could my reenlistment been approved if I wasnt less than a year from my ETS.
Thank you for your time.
Joined the NG in DEC 2011, was a junior in high school at the time. Told them to give me the longest contract. They put me in for an 8 year contract, two years RSP and six at my actual unit. My initial contract paperwork signed at MEPS reflects this.
Come MAR 2017, my 1stSGT comes to me and tells me I'm a year out from my ETS and asks about reenlistment. I said yes and told him to put me in for another six. So much time had passed (at that point 6 years) I didnt even realize or remember for that fact about my initial 8 year contract, but if a 1stSGT comes to me and tells me something, I'm going to believe him.
The point of all of this is that according to my initial contract, my ETS shouldnt have been until DEC 2019. They asked me about reenlistment two years early and somehow it got approved. I have taken all of this to S1, and they sent me home stating that there is no such thing as an eight year contract, despite it physically being in their hands on the paperwork I provided. I am trying to get my current reenlistment contact nullified and have my record changed to reflect that I am currently still in my first contract so I can reenlist with my new unit in the NJ NG. What are your thoughts on all of this. Have any of you heard of a 2+6 contract? How could my reenlistment been approved if I wasnt less than a year from my ETS.
Thank you for your time.
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All initial contracts are for your 8 year MSO, but there are no 8 year contracts you can sign up for.
Without physically seeing your contract, it sounds like you joined and obligated yourself to the NG as a Junior in 2011 Dec which means you probably went to Basic in Summer 2012, which is when your 6 years NG time began. As for a year out from ETS, the services dictate when you're allowed to reenlist. On AD I've seen it be 2 years out and less than one, right now it's 15 months. The details of your term should be explained in the rest of your contract annexes.
Without physically seeing your contract, it sounds like you joined and obligated yourself to the NG as a Junior in 2011 Dec which means you probably went to Basic in Summer 2012, which is when your 6 years NG time began. As for a year out from ETS, the services dictate when you're allowed to reenlist. On AD I've seen it be 2 years out and less than one, right now it's 15 months. The details of your term should be explained in the rest of your contract annexes.
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My guess: 2+6 means 6 years active, 2 years inactive reserve, the same way 4+4 means 4 active, 4 inactive reserve. Now, when you reenlist, as soon as you go past the first enlistment date, you start the 2nd active time, while simultaneously serving the inactive reserve time. Very confusing and this is just a guess based on my own crazy reenlistment experiences.
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You didn't reenlist early.
Read the original NGB Form 21, Annex A, DD Form 4.
You should note that you likely initialed where it states: "Initial enlistment of a non-prior service member..... I will incur a statutory military service obligation of eight years."
The line is where it would state the number of years you signed up for with regard to the ARNG--"The enlistment option I have selected...Army National Guard unit for a period of ___" and member of IRR or ING "for the balance of my eight year service obligation."
What number does is reflected there?
Likely, it reads "6." So, if you didn't reenlist in 2017, you wouldn't have remained in the ARNG.
If it reads 8, I'm certain someone will be able to address that.
Read the original NGB Form 21, Annex A, DD Form 4.
You should note that you likely initialed where it states: "Initial enlistment of a non-prior service member..... I will incur a statutory military service obligation of eight years."
The line is where it would state the number of years you signed up for with regard to the ARNG--"The enlistment option I have selected...Army National Guard unit for a period of ___" and member of IRR or ING "for the balance of my eight year service obligation."
What number does is reflected there?
Likely, it reads "6." So, if you didn't reenlist in 2017, you wouldn't have remained in the ARNG.
If it reads 8, I'm certain someone will be able to address that.
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