SSG Robert Burns92735<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div><p>What I mean is if we are going to hand out article 15's for uniform violations, is it not a bigger deal to not enforce the standards? The fact that the standards havent been enforced are the reasons for many of these changes. That is a deriliction of duty in my opinion.</p><p>So the question is should Soldier's receive UCMJ for failing to make corrections.</p>670-1 violations punitive. What about not enforcing them, should that be punitive?2014-04-03T13:17:21-04:00SSG Robert Burns92735<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div><p>What I mean is if we are going to hand out article 15's for uniform violations, is it not a bigger deal to not enforce the standards? The fact that the standards havent been enforced are the reasons for many of these changes. That is a deriliction of duty in my opinion.</p><p>So the question is should Soldier's receive UCMJ for failing to make corrections.</p>670-1 violations punitive. What about not enforcing them, should that be punitive?2014-04-03T13:17:21-04:002014-04-03T13:17:21-04:00SFC Michael Hasbun92738<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>It'd be kind of hard to prove that they actually saw the infraction... Definitely a case by case thing..Response by SFC Michael Hasbun made Apr 3 at 2014 1:19 PM2014-04-03T13:19:02-04:002014-04-03T13:19:02-04:00SSG Anthony Schoepp92749<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>There would be almost no way to prove they saw the infraction, or that they did not require the correction to be made. If I stop someone because their sewn on rank is crooked and tell them to fix it, nothing says that they have to do that. Then am I still liable because I did not cut off and resew the rank in that moment? Kind of extreme but that would be one 'grey area' example.<br>Response by SSG Anthony Schoepp made Apr 3 at 2014 1:30 PM2014-04-03T13:30:44-04:002014-04-03T13:30:44-04:00SSG Oliver Mathews93255<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>The problem with all of these questions about AR 670-1 being punitive or if not enforcing the standards should be punitive... ITS ALWAYS BEEN PUNISHABLE... <br><br>Article 92 of the UCMJ Failure to Obey Order or Regulation. This Article makes ALL of AR670-1 and every other Regulation published by any and all branches within the DOD Punitive. <br><br>Failure to Adhere to, Follow, or maintain any part of the Regulation to include the portions that do not state "Punitive" in the first Paragraph, are still Punitive. <br><br>Why is the Army adding on to what once was? maybe to have more options, who knows. <br>Response by SSG Oliver Mathews made Apr 4 at 2014 12:13 AM2014-04-04T00:13:34-04:002014-04-04T00:13:34-04:002014-04-03T13:17:21-04:00