Posted on Aug 27, 2021
SSgt Timothy Prevost
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To be clear, I'm not Anti Vax but I'm also not vaccinated. With all the immunizations and drugs the government has given us like anthrax, smallpox, doxycycline, mefloquine..etc. service members and Veterans are still concerned about the COVID-19 vaccine. Even after the FDA approved Pfizer, I was not planning on receiving the vaccine and would not have gotten it without being forced by the Military. Now that the pentagon mandated it, I obviously have no choice. I’m curious to hear other veteran/service members opinions are?
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Lt Col Mark Avery
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The military never misses an opportunity to remind me why retirement was the right call. No, I wouldn't get it until a regular vaccine (not an mRNA spike protein version) was fully through Phase 3 long term testing, which is the only way the FDA is supposed to grant full approval. Of the ones available in the USA, that is only the J&J product, and it's a LONG way from full Phase 3 testing completion. Of course, none of them can be because that phase takes three years to complete.
Which begs the question, how could any of the vaccines receive full FDA approval based on science rather than politics?
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SPC Joel Quey
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SPC Dawn Appelberg (Johnson) - You don't remember the SARS scare from 2002 - 2004?

Also, while flu was much rarer (because so many people were masking, maintaining distances, etc), it still occurred https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/index.htm
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Cpl Henry E Busby
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SGT Lori Adams - Since some have chosen to politicize this, no one seems to read beyond their preconceived notions. That is a shame.
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SPC Stiv ChenRobbins
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SGT Lori Adams - I don't remember "men" having a meeting and all agreeing to take Viagra. Must have missed that one... but broad brushes aside, nobody has ever been required by law to take Viagra, so I guess that was just an irrelevant misandrist flame.
Presonally, I have taken the vaccine, both steps. At this point, there is no real justification for forcing people to take booster after booster, and the fact that the vaccine is only effected for a few months affects the risk:reward ratio a fair bit. I am adamantly opposed to forcing people to take a medication that is no universally accepted and has not had time to go through the full screening process. The only reason there isn't more open opposition is because people who publicly even question the vaccines or suggest there are viable alternatives are shut down hard.
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SPC Stiv ChenRobbins But it did go thru the full screening process. It has to. And the military routinely forces it members to take shit that probably isn’t universally accepted - thinking Anthrax.

The viagra comment as you must have missed was about how it was also quickly developed but we don’t seem to here any bitching about that. No one seems to care about the long term health effects of viagra. Seems a bit of a double standard.

https://www.umms.org/coronavirus/covid-vaccine/facts/testing
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Capt Gregory Prickett
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I was one of the first to be vaccinated, and did so not just for myself, but for society as a whole. It's my view that those who won't get vaccinated are not concerned about their fellow citizens.
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SPC Stiv ChenRobbins
SPC Stiv ChenRobbins
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Capt Gregory Prickett - There is a certain irony that most of your posts are insulting, at best, yet you are throwing "downvoted and blocked" down for anything other than lockstep approval of all you say.
At least now you won't be forced to see both sides of the issues, and can honestly say that everyone whose posts you see agrees with you.
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Capt Gregory Prickett
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SPC Stiv ChenRobbins - There are all sorts of people who I disagree with but who I don't block or downvote.
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SPC Stiv ChenRobbins
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Capt Gregory Prickett - But you do seem to insult them all.
Your choice. I don't know you. I just kinda see a trend, and it doesn't seem real productive. People who are attacked tend to defend themselves.
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Capt Gregory Prickett
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SPC Stiv ChenRobbins - I insult the idiots who have stooped to that level first. If you want to have a discussion on the issues, that is preferable. I'm not really interested in a discussion on how I deal with the less-well equipped RPers.
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SSgt Timothy Prevost I've always believed in "personal choice". Now that the FDA has approved the Pfizer vaccine... I believe the military requiring everyone in the service being vaccinated a necesary step to be mission ready.
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MSG Randall Rankin
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But you cannot get the APPROVED vaccine anywhere in the US. The one they are pushing is DIFFERENT from the APPROVED one.
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Cpl Henry E Busby
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SSgt Tracy Kawasaki - I salute you Sir! You show your humanity and give a damn about your fellow man. I did the same as you and not only because I am immune compromised and work with the homeless population, but because I actually saw no downside to it. As I said, I get the flu vaccine every year and have gotten vaccinated beginning at 5 years of age and never got sick as a kid. I wish with all the other shots I took that there would have been one for Agent Orange. Even though I have had a liver and kidney transplant resulting from exposure 15 years ago, I took the first vaccine in March of 2021 and followed with a Booster and a flu shot. Today I still am able to get in my cardio, do 100 pushups a day, lift a little iron 3 days a week and for all intents and purposes, feel great. Maybe I'm an outlier, I don't know, but I just don't get all the anger and vitriol. And like the man said, no one comes into my office without a mask and no one that is not vaccinated is welcome in my home. And that includes family. And no, it is not virtue signaling, whatever that is in political speak, I simply care about me, my wife and my fellow man. Some call that being sheeple. So Be It.
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SGT John Prolo
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Hahaha...the FDA is a government entity! Of course they are going to approve a vaccine. Mission Ready?? The military has transsexuals in it ...how's that being mission ready! Thanks for the laugh.
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SGT Jeremy Andrews
SGT Jeremy Andrews
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Hypothetically speaking: if I were back in service, I would have if it was coming from the top down. Granted now that most of us are out, we can make our own decisions, but while in service we were bound by our oath to abide by the orders of the officers appointed over us. The Military is not a democracy, we don’t get to pick and choose what to do or what not to do. We signed our names on the dotted line. Embrace the suck and get it done for battle ready status.
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