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I got a dui off post. My co found out. He counseled me and said im getting a gomar and article 15. My buddy I might get chaptered by hec for qsp. Is this true?
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SSG (Join to see) As a 35N, your clearance is an issue for sure, your BDE and likely the Div security managers will review and make recommendations to the CDR's .
Without that clearance, you will be separated.
Come Board/ QMP time, your record will certainly be reviewed..As this happened as a SSG, it will be very difficult to demonstrate you have overcome your transgression and excelled since that day in the very near term when the next Board / QMP board happens.
I would suggest you make this a learning experience as best you can AND start immediately with plans for "What If I get selected for QMP" Don't let it be a surprise you get selected for separation if you make it through the next QMP..the clock is ticking..build a service record that speaks for itself on what you did "after" to support the nation, the unit, the mission and better yourself.
Without that clearance, you will be separated.
Come Board/ QMP time, your record will certainly be reviewed..As this happened as a SSG, it will be very difficult to demonstrate you have overcome your transgression and excelled since that day in the very near term when the next Board / QMP board happens.
I would suggest you make this a learning experience as best you can AND start immediately with plans for "What If I get selected for QMP" Don't let it be a surprise you get selected for separation if you make it through the next QMP..the clock is ticking..build a service record that speaks for itself on what you did "after" to support the nation, the unit, the mission and better yourself.
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What the ideal situation should have been was to let your chain of command know ASAP. Then take whatever heat comes at that level. At the same time, on the back end since it's a civilian DUI fight it tooth and nail so you'd have a chance to state a case to retract the negative actions the Army will leverage in the event you happen to work out the DUI in the civilian courts.
But, regardless of the civilian outcome not bringing this to the attention of your chain of command gives them ammo against you.
There was a SSG that was suppose to replace me from my deployment, but get got a DUI before he shipped out. His clearance was suspended by the CO. He fought it tooth and nail.
Last time I saw this SSG in person was a few months ago, and he is a 1SG now.
But, regardless of the civilian outcome not bringing this to the attention of your chain of command gives them ammo against you.
There was a SSG that was suppose to replace me from my deployment, but get got a DUI before he shipped out. His clearance was suspended by the CO. He fought it tooth and nail.
Last time I saw this SSG in person was a few months ago, and he is a 1SG now.
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CSM John Mead
Really, Captain, do you think that getting a DUI off post is any different from one received on post? I know of no way that this SSG could possibly win unless the DUI is thrown out. Any military punitive action should be deferred until civilian authorities have ironed it out. This SSG that you spoke of is the exception and definitely not the rule. You didn't explain the extenuations, therefore we can't make judgment on what happened. However, with SSG Hicks, if the DUI is upheld, not only is he facing Army action, but civilian repercussions as well.
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LTC George Morgan
CPT Richard Lesher - I could not disagree with you more. Once in Uniform, you are always in uniform, on base or off, in civilian clothes or in uniform, one is always under command.
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1SG Dean Mcbride (MPER) (CPHR)
I retired in 1982 -- obviously different military than what you see now. When I was a SFC, I knew another SFC that had two DUIs by civilian authorities. On both occasions, he was convicted and paid pretty hefty fines. He did all the court appearances while on leaves and never mentioned the issues to his chain of command. Because the military was not aware of the DUIs, nothing happened from the military side. He finally got his act together, sobered up, and eventually retired as a Command Sergeant Major.
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It's not a chapter, it's a new ETS, you'll still get an honorable discharge.
It's not QSP, it's QMP. You'll want to read the QMP MILPER located on the HRC Enlisted Promotions page.
It's not QSP, it's QMP. You'll want to read the QMP MILPER located on the HRC Enlisted Promotions page.
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CSM John Mead QSP was a force reduction program that appeared at the same time that QMP was reinstituted. QSP was where NCOs in heavily over strength MOS's were forced to reclass within six months, or get out. The ones with over 15 years were offered TERA.
I've delivered quite a few QMP notices and help people write their appeals. I've never seen a single DUI appeal approved. The appeals I have seen approved were for things like SLC not completed (not SLC failure), or an eval that was referred but not really bad.
I've delivered quite a few QMP notices and help people write their appeals. I've never seen a single DUI appeal approved. The appeals I have seen approved were for things like SLC not completed (not SLC failure), or an eval that was referred but not really bad.
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