Posted on Oct 26, 2025
What if a Reservist needed OCT-2025 to reach 50+ points for the year, it was the completion of their 20th year,and they turned 60 in Oct too?
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So I will reach 20 years at age 58.5ish. So I have 18 months or so to make up a potentially bad year, but recent events got me thinking (with the advent that last year would have been a bad year for me if I wasn't doing military funerals almost weekly).
But to my point.......... what is the recourse for someone who might be up against the clock, and congress shuts off the means to make up the points to get the final last good year?
In my case (and everyone's........... I presume) we will all make up the lost battle assemblies, and some date fudging on the DA1380's will pit the points in the years they are needed.
I'm just curious.
Would the recourse of my scenario have to be handled through one's congressman?
Basically, you can't finish a good year, and you hit MRD during the shut down and can't make it up to make that last 20th good year.
But to my point.......... what is the recourse for someone who might be up against the clock, and congress shuts off the means to make up the points to get the final last good year?
In my case (and everyone's........... I presume) we will all make up the lost battle assemblies, and some date fudging on the DA1380's will pit the points in the years they are needed.
I'm just curious.
Would the recourse of my scenario have to be handled through one's congressman?
Basically, you can't finish a good year, and you hit MRD during the shut down and can't make it up to make that last 20th good year.
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If you're hitting your MRD for age (60 in the Army reserves .. 62 for active duty), the MRD is the last day of the month they turn 60, so if they needed October to complete their 20th good year, and turned 60 that month, they would be able to do it.
The situation you described wouldn't happen unless the reservist really works at screwing it up.
While reservists normally associate it with being retained on active duty until they are eligible for a regular retirement, there is a sanctuary status in the reserves as well*. An officer in an active status on the RASL, who has completed at least 18 years of creditable service towards retirement, will be retained until they are eligible for a non-regular retirement.
However, the retention is a max of three years, so they are given the opportunity, but they could work at it and screw the pooch.
An MRD extension request would still have to be sent to HRC, but it will be automatically approved for officers in this situation (e.g., over 18 years of creditable service and hitting their MRD).
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* "Sanctuary" for reservists - https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/12646
* Maximum age for officers - https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/1253
The situation you described wouldn't happen unless the reservist really works at screwing it up.
While reservists normally associate it with being retained on active duty until they are eligible for a regular retirement, there is a sanctuary status in the reserves as well*. An officer in an active status on the RASL, who has completed at least 18 years of creditable service towards retirement, will be retained until they are eligible for a non-regular retirement.
However, the retention is a max of three years, so they are given the opportunity, but they could work at it and screw the pooch.
An MRD extension request would still have to be sent to HRC, but it will be automatically approved for officers in this situation (e.g., over 18 years of creditable service and hitting their MRD).
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* "Sanctuary" for reservists - https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/12646
* Maximum age for officers - https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/1253
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I Guess what it comes down to, if someone find themselves in such a situation they are really total losers.
I will be counting my annual points like a hawk now for the next 5 years.
My worst case is I'd have FIVE MONTHS from the start of my "year" till the end of my birth month to crank out 50 points in my final year if it comes to that. I just need to be aware of my tally at all times.
I will be counting my annual points like a hawk now for the next 5 years.
My worst case is I'd have FIVE MONTHS from the start of my "year" till the end of my birth month to crank out 50 points in my final year if it comes to that. I just need to be aware of my tally at all times.
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COL Randall C.
CPT (Join to see) - I wouldn't say they are 'total losers', but they'll either have had a long string of bad luck or have repeatedly missed drills (if you only did nine MUTA-4s in the year, no annual training or other IDTs, and were excused for the other three, you'd still have enough points for a good year with the 15 membership points).
Again, you would have five months IF you didn't apply for the automatic MRD extension because you were within two years of retirement.
Your last statement is something that leaders should impress on all their Soldiers - be aware of your retirement point tally at all times (or at least periodically throughout the year).
Again, you would have five months IF you didn't apply for the automatic MRD extension because you were within two years of retirement.
Your last statement is something that leaders should impress on all their Soldiers - be aware of your retirement point tally at all times (or at least periodically throughout the year).
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I thought the troops worked during the shutdown, just did not get paid. Of course, in this situation, it is points not pay you want. Are the ASTs considered essential and still working? If not, perhaps get some Admin type M Day guys come in and do the 1380s, long time ago, but I think that was the form.
Which makes me wonder, do troops that are traveling have to foot their own bills? As I understand, one has to use a guvment cc for which troop is responsible and in normal times is reimbursed. Now that money not going out, do troops have to fund their travel or does big Army work out a deal with banks that issue cards to forgo payment?
Which makes me wonder, do troops that are traveling have to foot their own bills? As I understand, one has to use a guvment cc for which troop is responsible and in normal times is reimbursed. Now that money not going out, do troops have to fund their travel or does big Army work out a deal with banks that issue cards to forgo payment?
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COL Randall C.
Most TDY travel is canceled during a shutdown, however if it is deemed mission essential then it will continue as normal. The Government credit card will operate as usual and accounts will not be collected against nor will finance charges accrue during a shutdown.
Travelers would be on the hook if they use their own resources to pay for something though.
Travelers would be on the hook if they use their own resources to pay for something though.
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Battle Assemblies are canceled during the shutdown. So anything with points associated with those are not going to happen. Make up RSTs will be authorized or most likely MUTA's will be tacked onto other Battle Assemblies. So one approaching retirement in the middle of the shut down will not get those points.
I personally have 9 funeral details I can't submit for processing yet, and I have more scheduled. So those would at least be retroactively applied to my points once I can submit a DA1380, but my Battle Assembly points for October will be zero.
I'm just running through imaginary hypotheticals. There's lots going on, and this year is going to be a MESS. I'm quite annoyed. I've literally TRASNFERED UNITS (orders in hand) in the middle of this, and now my outgoing and incoming commands have other things to worry about than little old me.
So whatever inconveniences I have going on with my career, I have to remember to imagine it's 400,000 times across the board.
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I'm trying to find the humor in this. I use to worry about can I make it to LTC before I retire. Now I'll be happy to just eventually get to MAJ (passed over for BZ this year, next year is in zone), and squeak out 20 good years. I don't need to stick around till 60.
Soooooooooooo.......... I suppose............... where my priorities need to be is getting my OER from my chain of command so I have a complete board file for my In Zone MAJ board coming up in a few months. All while we are all just trying to get through the day and our own personal challenges.
I personally have 9 funeral details I can't submit for processing yet, and I have more scheduled. So those would at least be retroactively applied to my points once I can submit a DA1380, but my Battle Assembly points for October will be zero.
I'm just running through imaginary hypotheticals. There's lots going on, and this year is going to be a MESS. I'm quite annoyed. I've literally TRASNFERED UNITS (orders in hand) in the middle of this, and now my outgoing and incoming commands have other things to worry about than little old me.
So whatever inconveniences I have going on with my career, I have to remember to imagine it's 400,000 times across the board.
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I'm trying to find the humor in this. I use to worry about can I make it to LTC before I retire. Now I'll be happy to just eventually get to MAJ (passed over for BZ this year, next year is in zone), and squeak out 20 good years. I don't need to stick around till 60.
Soooooooooooo.......... I suppose............... where my priorities need to be is getting my OER from my chain of command so I have a complete board file for my In Zone MAJ board coming up in a few months. All while we are all just trying to get through the day and our own personal challenges.
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50 points is a good year, and you automatically get 15 membership points. That means you only need 9 monthly drills to complete a good year. If you're USAR you can usually get another 2 points for annual medical, dental, flu shot. Plus 14 day Annual Training. An normal year is about 80 total points, if you can't do 50, than one month isn't going to save you and you're under preforming.
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