"A drill sergeant posted a video calling overweight people 'repulsive and disgusting'. He says he’s saving lives."

RallyPoint Shared Content — Thu, 30 Jul 2015 13:38:38 -0400

From: ABC News

Fitness Enthusiast John Burk said despite the media's negative portrayal of his online video rant on obesity and healthy living, the public has been singing his praises for his brutal honesty and motivation.

"It's been 95 percent positive and these other news agencies are saying I'm under fire," Burk of Hinesville, Georgia told ABC News. "I have so much overwhelming support for what I said. I see a comment here, a comment there, but mostly I hear 'Thank you for saying that.'

"I've changed thousands of lives daily from people saying that 'This is the blunt-force trauma I needed for me to quit making excuses and lying to myself, and get up and do something.'"

Burk, 31, a former drill sergeant in the United States Army Infantry, said some viewers are portraying his speech as negative, however, he said he posted it on Facebook to encourage people to choose a healthier lifestyle.

"First and foremost, I will not apologize," he said. "I will not retract what I said regardless of what society thinks. There is a difference between anger and passion. That was passion. People are so quick to say 'Oh, he's so angry.'"

Burk uploaded the profanity-laced video on July 5, where it has since received over 3 million views and upwards of 31,000 shares.

In addition, the comments came rolling in — some calling Burk a "mouthy bully" and others saying he's "inspirational."

"What really aggravates me is how society views it that it's perfectly OK to be overweight, as long as you're happy," Burk said. "People keep saying it's not my business and you're right, it's not. I think the blunt truth of it is either making an excuse, or you're going after it. Essentially, that’s what this video was about."

Burk, a father of two, said he feels it's important for adults to adopt positive eating habits for the sake of their children.

"My overall goal, quite honestly, is to start a revolution to stop living so unhealthily," he said. "We can do so much for our lives. For me, it starts with good health and fitness and a good, healthy, mind. The people that work had and go to the gym, they're called obsessed with their body, gym rats, meat heads — but if someone is eating too much or degrading their health and you say one negative thing, you are 'fat shaming.' It’s the hypocrisy that I can't understand.

"Their personality might be beautiful, but your body, in my opinion, is not," Burk added. "Since when did it become beautiful for someone to be obese? It's not. It's unhealthy. People automatically assume that’s fat shaming."

Burk said that he will continue making more videos for Facebook and his site gruntstyle.com, in hopes to coach viewers on nutrition and basic workout tips.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXDEe_bg9lM

http://abcnews.go.com/Lifestyle/georgia-fitness-enthusiasts-profanity-laced-video-draws-support/story?id=32620720

Fitness Motivator's Controversial Rant About Fat People

Fitness Motivator's Controversial Rant About 'Disgusting' Overweight People John Burk—an Internet fitness instructor, motivational speake and former Army vet...

Response by Capt Richard I P. made Jul 30 at 2015 1:46 PM

Capt Richard I P. — Thu, 30 Jul 2015 13:46:52 -0400

Yet another fine, worthwhile, incisive, professional re-posted 'news' story selection from RallyPoint Shared Content... the plaintext descriptors from the copy-paste haven't even been edited out (e.g. "burkscreenshot") This is truly how RallyPoint will become THE destination for military professionals and veterans.

Response by SSG Skylur Britz made Jul 30 at 2015 1:54 PM

SSG Skylur Britz — Thu, 30 Jul 2015 13:54:24 -0400

I agree with Burk, if you don't have a medical issue it pretty much is on you being lazy. I also don't think this is bullying, he's just giving info in a no bullsh!t way.

Response by SGT Kristin Wiley made Jul 30 at 2015 2:10 PM

SGT Kristin Wiley — Thu, 30 Jul 2015 14:10:21 -0400

"It’s also not based on science, she says."
I didn't realize that he was supposed to be giving a scientific opinion on the matter, he's not a scientist. I agree with his standpoint, as hard as this 'fat-shaming' is on people, it's just as difficult to try and accept their unhealthy lifestyle and watch them slowly kill themselves. It's called tough love, and we need more of it because clearly the soft approach isn't working.

Response by SGT Jeremiah B. made Jul 30 at 2015 2:19 PM

SGT Jeremiah B. — Thu, 30 Jul 2015 14:19:12 -0400

Being an asshole with good intentions doesn't mean you're less of an asshole. Weight is a combination of a number of factors, only some of which are diet and exercise. Genetics, medical conditions and food available/affordable all play into it as well. I know way too many people that have worked really hard to control their weight but can't get down to "fit and trim" (or even normal) without going far, far beyond what is reasonable...maintaining it would be impossible.

Response by CMSgt Mark Schubert made Jul 30 at 2015 2:21 PM

CMSgt Mark Schubert — Thu, 30 Jul 2015 14:21:50 -0400

I just have a hard time getting past the fact that he shaved his armpits - I think I will pull his "Man Card"! :-)

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 30 at 2015 2:44 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 30 Jul 2015 14:44:22 -0400

I'm not perfect and I have a long way to go in achieving my ideal self with regards to physical fitness, however I recently sat in a restaurant eating brunch as I looked around I began to notice that there was a large number of obese individuals in the restaurant. I started counting the number of people in the restaurant adults plus children, more than half would have been considered obese, a quarter over weight leaving only a quarter with height weight ratio standards. It is about choice, even if you're predisposed to being heavy as is claimed by some, it's about choice. What are you choosing to eat, how much time are you spending being active? We cannot expect to loose weight or to even maintain the status quo if our choices are not healthy and lean. This doesn't mean that you have to deny yourself all the time but when you indulge it does mean you'll have to do some extra physical activity to burn those calories....Choice again.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 30 at 2015 3:04 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 30 Jul 2015 15:04:43 -0400

I agree with John Burk he is motivating and he is blunt. Some people need that myself included. It is not for the overly sensitive, but it gets me motivated.

Response by SGT(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 30 at 2015 3:07 PM

SGT(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 30 Jul 2015 15:07:00 -0400

As an ex-obese person, I'm 100% with what he is saying. I'm -50% with the way he is saying it. You don't have to talk this way to send a message.

Response by PO3 Steven Sherrill made Jul 30 at 2015 4:52 PM

PO3 Steven Sherrill — Thu, 30 Jul 2015 16:52:37 -0400

As a motivator he fails. I watched the video. There is nothing motivational about it. It is a ripped up guy who wants to show off his body in the name of motivation. I read somewhere that in the military, the only way to drive home a point is with profanity. I thought back on it, and yeah I can agree with that. Unfortunately, doing motivational work is not the military. I am overweight. I gained weight while I was in the service, and hit a high weight a couple of years ago. The thing about it is that the only that is going to make a person change, in any endeavor not just weight, is themselves. Once a person decides that a lifestyle change is needed, they will make that change.
Does he make some valid points? Sure he does. Does the average person hear that amongst the rant that he posted on Facebook? Not likely. Is it likely to change anybody who is overweight for the better? Nope. So is he "saving lives?" No he just looks like a douche bag screaming with no shirt on. Maybe it is his audition for the next iteration of Jersey Shore.

Response by Cpl Toby Dodd made Jul 30 at 2015 6:27 PM

Cpl Toby Dodd — Thu, 30 Jul 2015 18:27:56 -0400

Truth hurts. Just telling it like it is. We're the fattest country on earth.

Response by LTC Bink Romanick made Jul 30 at 2015 8:34 PM

LTC Bink Romanick — Thu, 30 Jul 2015 20:34:00 -0400

im a heavy drop, i fought AR 600-9 all my career. This guy is a know it all and a glib talker, not a motivator.

Response by COL Charles Williams made Jul 30 at 2015 11:04 PM

COL Charles Williams — Thu, 30 Jul 2015 23:04:50 -0400

Aside from the "I really love me" aspect, I can see his point, but I don't agree. He is only impacting himself, and his Soldiers... Not a lot of fat repulsive and disgusting folks coming from MEPS... I also always question anyone who takes photos of themselves working out... or in the bathroom mirror... What on earth did we do before smart phones and selfies?

Response by SSG Scott Burk made Jul 30 at 2015 11:14 PM

SSG Scott Burk — Thu, 30 Jul 2015 23:14:06 -0400

Sometimes the truth hurts. Deal with it.

Response by SGT Roberto Mendoza-Diaz made Jul 30 at 2015 11:30 PM

SGT Roberto Mendoza-Diaz — Thu, 30 Jul 2015 23:30:18 -0400

Completely inappropriate and very unprofessional.

Response by SSG (ret) William Martin made Jul 31 at 2015 2:00 AM

SSG (ret) William Martin — Fri, 31 Jul 2015 02:00:29 -0400

I for one felt cyber bullied.

Response by SFC Michael Hasbun made Jul 31 at 2015 8:42 AM

SFC Michael Hasbun — Fri, 31 Jul 2015 08:42:59 -0400

Can we imagine how amazing this country would be if people were this passionate about education and intelligence? Sure, it'd be nice if everyone were aesthetically pleasing, but it's brains that this country desperately needs. Six pack abs do nothing for our future...

Side note: this comic strip is what instantly sprung to mind for me when I saw this guy....

Response by CW3 Stephen Bacon made Jul 31 at 2015 9:58 AM

CW3 Stephen Bacon — Fri, 31 Jul 2015 09:58:28 -0400

makes me wanna go to McDonalds.

Response by SSG Warren Swan made Jul 31 at 2015 11:24 AM

SSG Warren Swan — Fri, 31 Jul 2015 11:24:08 -0400

I saw the video and I agree with him. I'm a big person and am in the gym trying to make change. I've gone through the knee pain and the back pain due to the weight that I had on. He alluded to the medical (thyroid) reasons why folks can be big, but he didn't acknowledge there are many on medications that cause rapid and severe weight gains (get on Seroquel and see what happens). I think he does care, but in a rush to "shock", the delivery overtakes the message, so the message comes in broken and barely readable (in commo talk). I believe he could've put the same energy and intensity in the message and gotten the same results if not better with more facts vs. opinions (that are true to an extent), and rely less on the language to shock one into watching it. Overall I'm not offended by it at all, but I would ask if you go out with someone and spend time judging others, are you part of the problem or are you part of the solution? Instead of judging in this case, educate them if possible and offer a hand of education. That can go a long ways.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 31 at 2015 11:34 AM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 31 Jul 2015 11:34:19 -0400

My response? Condescending people are disgusting.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 31 at 2015 3:57 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 31 Jul 2015 15:57:55 -0400

Someone's Johnson is too small. BAHAHAHAHAHA

But seriously what he doesn't understand, In my honest opinion, is that Anorexia is TOO unhealthy, so instead of focusing on the Obese "group" or ANY other "group" for that matter, why doesn't he focus on the real problems, like eating disorders... PERIOD.

Sorry, HAD to tag you SGT Jeremiah B.

Response by SFC Mark Merino made Jul 31 at 2015 4:29 PM

SFC Mark Merino — Fri, 31 Jul 2015 16:29:11 -0400

Pretty boys like that get special attention in prison. He's a little too scrawny to be talking as the spokesman for the 'beautiful people.' I had a Drill Sergeant that had muscles in his turds. Get over yourself pretty boy. Regards, Uncle Mark (aka: Fatty Mcfatass)

Response by 1SG Michael Blount made Jul 31 at 2015 5:21 PM

1SG Michael Blount — Fri, 31 Jul 2015 17:21:41 -0400

Well, maybe he went overboard calling them "disgusting" but he's right about saving lives. No point sending Butter Ball to the sandbox if the only thing he can lift is a Big Mac.

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 31 at 2015 10:15 PM

MSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 31 Jul 2015 22:15:39 -0400

I find his attitude and language repulsive and disgusting. He is not a motivator. I completely tune people like him out.

Response by MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca made Jul 31 at 2015 11:43 PM

MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca — Fri, 31 Jul 2015 23:43:09 -0400

I'm not a big fan of body art but I don't go around berating people who have it. We're all entitled to our opinions. Unfortunately some feel they need to dominate people with their opinions instead of keeping them to themselves. So be it.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 1 at 2015 1:41 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 01 Aug 2015 01:41:52 -0400

I've seen his site gruntstyle.com on Facebook. Now he's getting all this publicity. Smart move, even is it does piss off some people.

Response by SGT Rick Ash made Aug 1 at 2015 9:30 AM

SGT Rick Ash — Sat, 01 Aug 2015 09:30:15 -0400

I like him AND his posts. At 6'5" and 190 pounds I am in the same shape as him. But I have not always been in this good of a shape. I was at 256 pounds for several years and my cholesterol and BP were unsatisfactory. Now I work upper body one day then lower body the next and keep rotating. I manage to get an hour of cardio in the gym every day too. So now, all my vital signs are right where my Doc wants them! I now eat 8 small meals a day and it keeps my metabolism in high gear!

Response by CSM Michael Poll made Aug 1 at 2015 1:08 PM

CSM Michael Poll — Sat, 01 Aug 2015 13:08:16 -0400

Son, we live in a world that has walls, and those walls have to be guarded by men with guns. Who's gonna do it? You? You, Lt. Weinburg? I have a greater responsibility than you could possibly fathom. You weep for Santiago, and you curse the Marines. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know. That Santiago's death, while tragic, probably saved lives. And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves lives. You don't want the truth because deep down in places you don't talk about at parties, you want me on that wall, you need me on that wall. We use words like honor, code, loyalty. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent defending something. You use them as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said thank you, and went on your way, Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a weapon, and stand a post. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you are entitled to.

Response by SMSgt Tony Barnes made Aug 1 at 2015 2:48 PM

SMSgt Tony Barnes — Sat, 01 Aug 2015 14:48:38 -0400

As a person who weighs over 300 pounds...I am not offended in the least...and am envious of those people he is helping. My appearance tells people from the start I have trouble with self control. I hate that about me.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 1 at 2015 10:19 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 01 Aug 2015 22:19:49 -0400

I have heard alot worse from Drill SGT's . He just trying to motivate people to get active. Nothing wrong with it. Everyone needs a little kick in the ass from time to time

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 2 at 2015 8:07 AM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 02 Aug 2015 08:07:05 -0400

He makes a lot of valid points in his rant. I would have to say that a huge problem is lack of proper education when it comes to nutrition and fitness. I also blame our culture of being able to "super-size" our combos at McNasty's and Burger Krap. I was in the group he is ranting about - but turned it around with proper education about nutrition; health; and proper CORRECT exercises.

Response by SSgt Charles Edwards made Aug 2 at 2015 10:32 AM

SSgt Charles Edwards — Sun, 02 Aug 2015 10:32:15 -0400

Is he doing a Randy Orton impression?

Response by SFC Stephen King made Aug 2 at 2015 2:44 PM

SFC Stephen King — Sun, 02 Aug 2015 14:44:26 -0400

Awesome you stated the obvious now but part of the solution and help others instead of yourself. I have no problem describing problems we as individuals have this on lock. The lending a helping hand or offering assistance is where we lack.

Response by CPL(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 3 at 2015 12:06 AM

CPL(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 03 Aug 2015 00:06:20 -0400

I'm all for it. His delivery doesn't work well for civilians, but he's completely right. He delivers like a drill sgt. Nothing tastes as good as fit and healthy feels.

Response by SPC Margaret Higgins made Aug 3 at 2015 10:59 AM

SPC Margaret Higgins — Mon, 03 Aug 2015 10:59:29 -0400

I was very overweight.
I don't believe that the majority of overweight people will respond positively to those words.
And I don't believe the majority of overweight people will respond positively to ranting.
I certainly wouldn't have.

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 3 at 2015 11:09 AM

SSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 03 Aug 2015 11:09:48 -0400

Well he looks 12 years old and everything is easier in your preteens.... and teens...lol

Response by SSG Nathan Long made Aug 3 at 2015 11:29 AM

SSG Nathan Long — Mon, 03 Aug 2015 11:29:25 -0400

I sure could use your help , I'm in a bad way I am also a army vet and was a very active and in shape person . And now I've lost 160 lbs and now down to 246 I need help getting motivated again I have diabetes and heart disease I just quite smoking I have no more excuses. I have lost both of half my feet and I am on my way to the grave . I used to fight for the army in the ring and in the field but now I am fighting for my life .

Response by CMSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 3 at 2015 11:36 AM

CMSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 03 Aug 2015 11:36:23 -0400

Here is my $0.02, I agree with what he is saying as far as the related health issues yet his delivery and his berating was unnecessary. (Not everyone responds to tough-love.)

I have always stayed fit (but love me some eating :)). Yet, now I am 45, I have several herniated discs and a few other small but significant health items. I maxed out my weight~height group a mere 8 months ago due to these issues. I felt fatigued and defeated at its worst. I pulled it together, got myself motivated, and dropped a wonderful amount of weight/gained muscle tone by eating right and just simply moving. Everyday. I feel great! :)

Losing and maintaining weight is hard. Oh so very hard, especially as one gets older. But it does become a lifestyle once you get into a rhythm.

Response by SGT William Howell made Aug 3 at 2015 11:55 AM

SGT William Howell — Mon, 03 Aug 2015 11:55:22 -0400

Sorry I am going to go with douche bag. After watching that I am going to go drink a milk shake, eat some extra gluten, and suck down some pork rinds. When I take a nap today I am going to contemplate what he said for about .0003 Milli Seconds.

Response by SPC(P) Jay Heenan made Aug 3 at 2015 2:29 PM

SPC(P) Jay Heenan — Mon, 03 Aug 2015 14:29:36 -0400

Here is a serious question regarding his "motivation" techniques. The Army just released an ALARACT regarding presence on social media. Does his rant violate the new policy?

http://www.nc.ngb.army.mil/NCOCorner/SiteAssets/Lists/NCO_Corner_Annoucements/NewItem/ALARACT_122_2015_PROFESSIONALIZATION%20OF%20ONLINE%20CONDUCT.pdf

Response by SSG John Erny made Aug 3 at 2015 2:31 PM

SSG John Erny — Mon, 03 Aug 2015 14:31:22 -0400

<<< Ducks and runs for cover

Response by Maj Chris Nelson made Aug 3 at 2015 2:33 PM

Maj Chris Nelson — Mon, 03 Aug 2015 14:33:46 -0400

He is an official dirt bag in my book. First, while he makes some points, he also can not generalize everyone without knowing their health history and current meds (both of which may impact weight). Also, it appears that he lacks testosterone.... or he shaves his body.... or maybe both. His "art work" is as unimpressive as his physique.... have seen many that are much better. How am I doing so far?? I haven't even gotten to his personality yet....think I will stop. I will live my life and ENJOY it....MY way. He can crawl up under whatever rock he came from.

Response by SGT William Howell made Aug 3 at 2015 3:28 PM

SGT William Howell — Mon, 03 Aug 2015 15:28:17 -0400

I would love to take him on at the pistol course. Then the berating could really begin. He spends his time in the gym, I spend mine at the pistol range.

Response by SPC Casey Ashfield made Aug 3 at 2015 5:00 PM

SPC Casey Ashfield — Mon, 03 Aug 2015 17:00:04 -0400

Am I the only one who ever noticed he is labeled as "fitness motivator" or "fitness enthusiast?" What that means to me is no one in their right mind will hire him as a personal trainer where his opinions are worth a wage. He is an asshole, with a camera and internet connection. FORMER DS or not. Donning the Brown Round allows you to be an asshole to get fresh privates moving. If you still think your the most blessed thing on earth once you take it off, you are a narcissistic asshole.

Response by PO3 David Fries made Aug 3 at 2015 5:03 PM

PO3 David Fries — Mon, 03 Aug 2015 17:03:11 -0400

I don't like to admit it, but I turned into a big bag nasty after I got out. I was never really enjoyed PT while I was in, so I said F it after I got out. I let myself gain 130 pounds. I agree with what he is saying. I have already started doing something about it. That being said, I don't need a douche being a douche. I needed motivation.

Response by SPC Margaret Higgins made Aug 3 at 2015 5:38 PM

SPC Margaret Higgins — Mon, 03 Aug 2015 17:38:05 -0400

There is a lot better way to motivate a person (people) to lose weight. One either gets help for the overweight person (internist, nutritionist, etc.); or one helps the overweight person to lose weight ones self.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 3 at 2015 5:51 PM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 03 Aug 2015 17:51:15 -0400

I agree there is a serious problem with obesity in our country. Not sure his ranting is a solid approach a solution? Active lifestyle and everything is moderation is a good starting point.

Response by SPC George Rudenko made Aug 3 at 2015 7:25 PM

SPC George Rudenko — Mon, 03 Aug 2015 19:25:50 -0400

And some flocked to Manson and Koresh as visionaries ( not comparing this guy to either) What is one mans trash is another mans treasure. But, is he saving lives? I don't see him as a MD, RN, EMT. I saw a fit crazed die of flesh eating bacteria because they had too little body fat, weren't a professional athlette being constantly monitored but wanted to look the part.

I guess my question is, can we motivate without insulting, shaming? Because I can explain the universe can I call him stupid? Is there even a point to doing that? I think that Spartan tat got to him. We are no longer kicking the weak babies to die in pits to perpetuate the species.

Response by Cpl Chris Rice made Aug 3 at 2015 9:36 PM

Cpl Chris Rice — Mon, 03 Aug 2015 21:36:12 -0400

My family is full of fat guys, who get up and go to work, then pay taxes so he can have his beautiful gym to work out in, and he has a salary to purchase his supplements with. I think at this point most of the middle-aged men I know are quite obese, all have full-time jobs, many of served in the United States military, and more have raised children who have served. Unfortunately for this gentleman the United States of America is built on men and women who could care less about their physical appearance, they have unwisely spent that time on the unimportant aspects of life such as supporting and raising families, running businesses, and basically building our modern economy.

Even when I was in the Marine Corps I often found it silly that we preferred the aircraft mechanic who was lazy, incompetent, but had a good proportional height to weight, over the Marine who proved himself over and over again as a skilled workman, but who stomach may have stuck out a little bit more (The example could Still could pass the PFT, actually he was faster than my skinny ass at the time). I think I can tell you which one Al Qaeda would prefer working on our aircraft.

Response by SGT Michael Glenn made Aug 4 at 2015 12:25 AM

SGT Michael Glenn — Tue, 04 Aug 2015 00:25:37 -0400

I had to have a big "FAT" lol over this one...obviously stuck on himself.Give him a bad deployment or botched field problem and he too will be singing a different tune. during my military career, I had a 29 inch waist, now many operations later to do the best to piece this old body back to normal I can only look at my old class A uniform and have my Gf's 17 year old son wear it to show people how small I was. I am doing better and no longer in a wheel chair and plan on riding a bike by next year and running soon after that. then Ill find this quack and put him to shame!!!! now if you will excuse me I think I pulled a muscle typing this !!!!! MEDIC !!!!!!!!

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 4 at 2015 9:49 AM

CW3 Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 04 Aug 2015 09:49:11 -0400

All I'm really going to say is that if his intent is to motivate people to be healthier, he will be needing to work on his delivery and demeanor. Positive motivation works much better. I'm in shape, and I want to kick his ass after watching this video.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 4 at 2015 2:55 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 04 Aug 2015 14:55:55 -0400

I don't think he's a Drill Sergeant...is it confirmed?

Response by CPT Pedro Meza made Aug 4 at 2015 4:55 PM

CPT Pedro Meza — Tue, 04 Aug 2015 16:55:08 -0400

Please correct your introduction to this thread by stating "former drill sergeant", it is wrong to give the impressions that an active drill sergeant would be stupid enough to stroke his ego to say this.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 4 at 2015 6:14 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 04 Aug 2015 18:14:40 -0400

The part of calling them repulsive was off the line, but this guy have a point specially if other people depend on you (military). If you call you self a soldier you need to be beyond the standards and you need to be fit. This take my to another point. Why in the H....ll soldiers with permanent profiles are allow to advance in ranks? Why people that are fit to fight are been kicked out because they have not been able to make the next pay grade(education, military training, leadership etc) I mean( F. That). The military need to measure everyone with the same tape. Is bull crap. Fat or hurt is the same to me. Fill our ranks with people able to stand for a fight. Just Saying!!!!

Response by 1stSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 4 at 2015 6:27 PM

1stSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 04 Aug 2015 18:27:55 -0400

Really don't care what he said. I know back in the day I would have owned him. What he said may be true, but he is an arrogant ass.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 4 at 2015 8:35 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 04 Aug 2015 20:35:17 -0400

OK Number 1, I take offense to the headline. Because I have battles that are getting beat up all of the time for the job that they are having to shoulder and that is the job of Drill Sergeant. I told my Drill Sergeant back when I was a Private..."Drill Sergeant...I NEVER want your job." I knew BACK THEN that I never wanted that thankless job. So the headline is CRAP!!!
This dude did his time as a Drill yes, he did his time as a grunt and he is "trying to motivate people" ok. But he is NOT a Drill Sergeant!! HE is a FORMER Drill Sergeant.
Number 2. I agree that there is no place in the military for fat bodies. I have to constantly watch myself and make SURE I am not one, and I have had the unfortunate job of building all KINDS of packets for these kids that I had to FLAG for it. Some of them I had to build the "kick out packets for them." Ok so Burk was a little fired up, and he made the utterly repulsive and disgusting comment when he was talking about his personal view of how he saw overweight people. He should have approached it different maybe. However his message was the EXACT message that we tell all of our Soldiers when we FLAG them. When I sit my Soldiers down and brief them the tons of paperwork that I have to brief them, it is part of the paperwork, when we are going to send them to the Nutritionist.
Number 3. Infantry is one of the most hardcore (minus maybe the Scout Recon 19D Drills) and they are GOING to be that way. I read a lot of the comments and everyone acts as though everything that he is saying is somehow surprising. It isn't, it is something that we either have told our Soldiers (depending on how long you have been in, if you were in before the touchy feely Army) or were told by someone in Basic. I remember going to OSUT and the Drill telling us, "Go Ahead Pri'ates, eat some cake." Man we were dumb, we thought, "WOW, this is cool." So we did. Then we went to the Pit. WE spent forEVER in the pit and we were told how fat and disgusting we were and we were not GOING TO BE by the time we were done, and we were TANKERS. A breed historically KNOWN for being fat. "Fat Assed Tankers. Dumb Ass Tankers etc, etc. This guy, while I am not saying that he is right, (so don't jump me and think that I am defending him) is just going off a combination of how he was brought up in the Army and how perfect he feels that he has made his body. He DOES have good intentions and if you listen, you can hear it. He just is that Grunt SSG (I am guessing a Squad Leader) that has no real people skills other than crush the souls and hope to rebuild them. "Those who can't take it, move out. Those who can, will be as amazing as him."
So, although my main reason for writing this was to bitch that this headline was wrong. The rest of wrant was put together after I listened to the video a couple times.
So right or wrong, his words and heart are in the right place. His words are just not people friendly.
-- Remarks Complete --

Response by Sgt Kelli Mays made Aug 4 at 2015 9:53 PM

Sgt Kelli Mays — Tue, 04 Aug 2015 21:53:16 -0400

This guy is REPULSIVE and DISGUSTING and should be hung upside down.

Response by SSG Robert Burns made Aug 4 at 2015 11:36 PM

SSG Robert Burns — Tue, 04 Aug 2015 23:36:14 -0400

Never heard of her.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 5 at 2015 3:55 AM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 05 Aug 2015 03:55:56 -0400

I don't see anything wrong with what he said...sure he could have been a little nicer but he's a (former) drill sergeant, what do you expect?

I find it funny some of the people I see here whining about "soft touch feely Army", and "political correctness" , "basic training is soft these days " and "privates these days"..... are whining about a guy whose telling them their lifestyle is unhealthy and repulsive (which it is). Oh, OHHH, and they have a thousand excuses to make up for it (if the shoe fits wear it). I guess being pc is only good if it affects you?

America is the fattest country...and for a reason. People are too worried about feeling bad for themselves and need a swift kick in their ass. He needs to work on tact but he comes off as an infantry NCO....which is definitely not a politically correct nice touchy feely group of guys. He rips out hearts and rebuilds them which is what DS's do. Fitness motivator? not so much, requires more tact. I tell you what though the hard ass approach definitely works. Point to a guy you knew who was overweight in basic training and didn't come out 15-30+ lbs lighter and I'll buy you a new car.

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Response by SSG (ret) William Martin made Aug 5 at 2015 1:53 PM

SSG (ret) William Martin — Wed, 05 Aug 2015 13:53:37 -0400

I bet he's overcompensating for "small" details of his life.

Response by Cpl Tim Lang made Aug 5 at 2015 6:01 PM

Cpl Tim Lang — Wed, 05 Aug 2015 18:01:22 -0400

Well, if you went to Marine Corps boot camp in the 80s, you were called much worse than that.

Response by SFC Benjamin Berry III made Aug 12 at 2015 2:03 AM

SFC Benjamin Berry III — Wed, 12 Aug 2015 02:03:13 -0400

Does he understand that some people are carrying extra weight because they may have a medical problem. I spent 22 years in the Army and I was taped my whole career and passed every tape.Does that make me over weight.

Response by Cpl Micah Wing made Aug 23 at 2015 2:28 AM

Cpl Micah Wing — Sun, 23 Aug 2015 02:28:14 -0400

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 23 at 2015 2:37 AM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 23 Aug 2015 02:37:16 -0400

He is right. If we can get over all this butt hurt. If you are obese you are not healthy. Don't try to say you are perfect. You are not. It is just like a person who smokes. It is not healthy. The worst is when I see those obese people feed their kids crap and give their kids a future of diabetes and poor health. This women had to have a crane to get her out of an apartment. Anyone else see an issue with this. I used to be a fat kid in school. Then I got fit and stay that way now. My quality of life is much better. He is telling people what they don't want to hear.

What pumps me up is when a obese person changes their life and gets into a fitness program. As long as they are trying to be a more healthy person. That is great. But saying that on the way to get your 3 whoppers and your extra large Diet Coke ain't cutting it.

Woman weighing nearly 800lbs rescued from apartment in massive net

City paramedics arrived at the woman's apartment on 111th Street around 1.15pm and quickly realized that she was too large to fit through the front door of the dwelling. The FDNY was called in to help the woman.

Response by PFC Tuan Trang made Aug 23 at 2015 6:33 PM

PFC Tuan Trang — Sun, 23 Aug 2015 18:33:54 -0400

I agree with Burk, Stay motivated, eat right and stay fit.

Response by SPC Brandon Short made Jan 7 at 2016 5:53 AM

SPC Brandon Short — Thu, 07 Jan 2016 05:53:16 -0500

Disgusting excuse for a leader. Shaming someone to adapt to your preference. Also has been know to do the same to veterans who are having PTSD related issues. Telling them they are weak and belittling them.

Response by SFC William Stephens A. Jr., 3 MSM, JSCM made Nov 9 at 2017 9:38 AM

SFC William Stephens A. Jr., 3 MSM, JSCM — Thu, 09 Nov 2017 09:38:06 -0500

Is this the same DS jerk who was on TV with JOHN CENA who cried when a young girl reached her goal in the final event. DUDE you call PEOPLE FAT your JOKE and HOPE you read because your PUSSY. YOUR FAKE Because you couldn't take ARMY as Drill Sergeant and Leadership and Got out and now your Hollywood Punk. Your knock off of CODY RODES ROH.

Response by PFC Eric Parrish made Dec 20 at 2017 5:28 PM

PFC Eric Parrish — Wed, 20 Dec 2017 17:28:59 -0500

And as much as he tries to maintain age and injuries will add up and he too will fight the uphill battle to not be a disgusting fat body. If you are younger than 35 and not in shape shame on you. Let me know how its going when you hit 45 or 50. The same out put does not equal the same rewards.