Advice and helpful hints for a new NCO (E-5)?

2013-11-09T22:49:40-05:00

I am a brand new E5, I have my orders and will be pinned next weekend. What with hindsight - what do you wish you had known when you were stepping up to this new responsibility. Junior leaders what qualities do you wish your leadership had. I really would like to be a great, empowering NCO not just a Luke warm. I haven't had many good examples to follow from. Please keep it nice not negative.

Thank you, your thoughts will be greatly appreciated.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 9 at 2013 11:10 PM

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As a SPC who has been working in a SGT position for the greater part of 18 months, the biggest thing I learned was to take care of your soldiers.  You higher leadership might not like you for standing up, but it is what you are there for.  You are the bastion that is to lead forward the next group of soldiers.  Congratulations on your promotion and I hope you do great things with your soldiers.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 9 at 2013 11:22 PM

2013-11-09T23:22:54-05:00

First congrats and welcome to the corp. <div>I'll advice you to be confidence and secure around your Soldiers. They will feed from you. They will test you if they see you week. Also look for that high speed E5 or E6 and use them as mentor or as a resource incase that you need anything. Another thing that work for me is that I have a good relationship with my Soldiers but since day one, they know that is a line and once you cross it is a different game.</div>

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 10 at 2013 8:49 AM

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Above all else, take care of your soldiers.  <div>Find an E-6/E-7 that you look up to and ask them to mentor you.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div>

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 10 at 2013 11:32 AM

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<p>Welcome to the Corp.</p><p> </p><p>Keep in mind that you cant lead from the front while standing in the back. First you need to make sure that as a leader you are constantly ready updates. Make sure you are always on top of things. A soldier wont respected or follow a leader that is not up to date on current regs. Second I cant stress this enough treat everybody the same don't play favorites to some. Last but defiantly not lest those friends you had as a SPC are now your soldiers not friends. </p>

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 10 at 2013 11:46 AM

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Your Leaders saw your potential long before you did, take what you learned Good/ Bad from your leaders and apply that to your leadership style. Keep in mind you will make mistakes along the way, be humble but also know you must not waiver you will be tested.... WELCOME TO THE CORP OF NON-COMMISSIONED OFFICERS!  

Response by SSG (ret) William Martin made Nov 10 at 2013 11:50 AM

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The first thing you can do is to refer yourself as a Noncommissioned Officer or a Sergeant; not an E5.

Response by CPT Laurie H. made Nov 10 at 2013 5:44 PM

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SGT Walker,<div><br></div><div>The fact that you're asking for advice and showing genuine enthusiasm for being the best leader you can be makes me think you will succeed in being that empowering NCO you want to be. </div><div><br></div><div>I won't pretend to know what being an NCO is like, as I've never been one, but you have some great advice here. I'd like to add three things.</div><div><br></div><div>1. You're a leader now, even when you aren't actively in front of your Soldiers leading. They will constantly be looking at you, and mirror your example. This is particularly relevant for Soldiers straight out of AIT and BCT. You may be the first NCO they meet who's not yelling at them, and they're going to do what you do. Make sure you're doing the right thing.</div><div><br></div><div>2. The best E-5s I have in my ranks have mastered working professionally with their peers. I don't know if it's a National Guard trend, but I see a lot of E-5s bickering among themselves, in front of their Soldiers, and it is all sorts of bad for the troops. If you find yourself disagreeing with your fellow NCOs, take it behind closed doors and resolve the issue. </div><div><br></div><div>3. You mentioned you have not had many good examples to follow, but bad examples are sometimes the best. Take note of what you haven't liked about some of your leadership and check yourself from time to time to ensure you aren't following in their footsteps. </div>

Response by CSM Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 11 at 2013 4:23 PM

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<div>The NCO Creed spells it out perfectly. Here is some additional guidance, some elaborating on principles of the Creed:</div><div><br></div>1. Separate any friendships you have with your subordinates.<div><br></div><div>2. Be absolutely technically and tactically proficient at your level and one above it. </div><div><br></div><div>3. Always think two levels up. If you are trying to get something accomplished, think about what your superior will say. If you do not have a convincing argument, let it be. </div><div>Soldiers may not think you are taking care of them but you just increased your efficiency and can move on to something else.</div><div><br></div><div>4. Be Efficient. Wasting a persons time is the worst thing you can do. Lay out your goals daily and keep your Soldiers on task.</div><div><br></div><div>5. Never let a Soldier wait on you, You should be waiting on them.</div><div><br></div><div>6. Always let Soldiers know how valuable they are, even the mediocre ones. A true leader respects those who are of no value to them.</div><div><br></div><div>7. Counsel! Counsel often. Have someone read over them to ensure they are grammatically correct. I'm no english major, but catching a misspelling can save you embarrassment. </div><div><br></div><div>9. Sound like a professional and act like one. Read books about how to be an effective leader. A good one is the 22 Laws of Irrefutable Leadership.</div><div><br></div><div>10. Always seek self-improvement. Never stop learning. Read Regs, FMs, and enroll into college and engage the life long learning process.</div><div><br></div><div>Good Luck</div><div><br></div>

Response by CPT Aaron Kletzing made Nov 11 at 2013 5:36 PM

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SGT Walker, that is an inspiring question -- thank you for asking it.  My answer comes from a junior officer's perspective, as I was one the majority of my active time in.  When I was a junior officer, I had incredible NCOs in my unit who, when the time came, were always there to help mentor me and help me develop -- provided that I was showing 110% motivation and a commitment to being the best officer that I could be.  To be fair, my unit also had bad NCOs (and officers and junior enlisted, etc.) -- and we as officers were well aware of those NCOs who just hated officers no matter what, and carried a negative mental attitude into every situation.  Please do not allow people like this to run off on you.  Also, NCOs should not be a crutch for a young officer, so do not let an officer with low motivation or a poor work ethic leech off of your energy and strong work ethic.  In my humble opinion, NCOs are the most critical ingredient in turning inexperienced yet motivated junior officers into outstanding company and field grade leaders.  The best NCOs had my back because we respected one another immensely and they knew I had their back as well when they needed it.  It all starts with mutual respect, which must be earned both ways.

Response by CPO Jon Campbell made Nov 11 at 2013 6:16 PM

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Some of the worst advise I ever received was "Don't volunteer for anything." I ignored it and had a great career. The best parts of my career were as an E5 in assignments I volunteered for that no one else wanted to do. <div>Don't be in a big hurry to move up. E5 is the journeyman level and the place you hone your skills without the pressures of the paperwork that comes with E6. </div><div>Lead your junior members by example and don't be afraid to learn right along side of them.</div>

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 14 at 2013 9:31 PM

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Thank you so much, i feel i still have so much to learn but i have some really good ideas and now because i posed this question i feel i have some amazing leaders that i can ask for advice. Some of you even in boxed me with advice and amazing tips. I am grateful for your mentoring and best wishes.

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 14 at 2013 9:34 PM

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First and foremost, develop your subordinates. Educate yourself, and BE the example. You may not always have the answer, but you must KNOW how/where to get it. Always Do the right thing. Learn how to relate all of the core values to everything, and relay that to those you lead. Provide positive feedback that fosters growth. Be able to distinguish between leadership and management, and know when to apply one or the other, or a mixture of both. <div><br></div><div>John C. Maxwell has some great books, and of the most popular is "The 21 irrefutable laws of Leadership". D. Michael Abrashoff wrote "It's Your Ship", among others, but I recommend that one. </div><div><br></div><div>All the other advice written before me is great. Congratulations on becoming an NCO! </div>

Response by CSM Stuart C. O'Black made Nov 14 at 2013 9:54 PM

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<p>I think your statement "I haven't had many good examples to follow from." is to true.</p><p> </p><p>     I have learned just as much from leaders what to do as what not to do. You received a lot of great advice here so here is my simple two cents.  Make sure you counsel your Soldiers and tell them what they are doing well and what needs improvement. Sounds simple but I have only found about 20% of the NCOs actually do monthly counseling. _ - true counseling not fluff!     </p><p>     Help them be successful and they will make you successful. I can truly say I am where I am not because of what I did but because of what those around me did.  When asked how did I succeeded it was pretty simple - I take care of my Soldiers and they take care of me. That means doing the hard right at times. Soldiers understand why you did if you are a leader of integrity and walk the walk / talk the talk.  Spell out your expectations and never over react, by being yourself you will be a leader that the Soldiers will respect and understand your expectations.  There are a lot of leaders that get attention because of their boisterous behavior and cockiness but I found a lot lacked true leadership when you pulled back the layers and got beyond the show.  </p><p>    Leaders are made not born and anyone who says different are fooling themselves. Trust but verify even if it is coming from a superior. Granted there are times to execute without question but you would not be an NCO if you did not know the difference.   Be there when they wake up and when they go to sleep - always Out-Front! </p><p>     **Congrats on your promotion and finally take care of yourself and do those things that are required to make it to SSG. If not you will be back to your first statement "I haven't had many good examples to follow from." Be that leader who will erase this statement!!!!</p>

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 14 at 2013 10:10 PM

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Sgt Walker,<div><br></div><div>The biggest thing that has helped me since sewing on last year is remembering what it was like when you were lower ranking and what you though your NCO's could do better. I personally had a more poor supervisors than good. So the things I thought they could do better or shouldn't have been doing as NCO's I do the opposite. Another thing that recently helped me was my current rater. He used to sit me down once a week or once every couple weeks until I was comfortable in my NCO responsibilities and have a constructive criticism meeting. He would start it out with how do you think you've done this week? ,What do you think you could've done better? It's always better to go in there answering most of the questions and doing critical thinking on the spot for the questions of what do you think you could've done better. Another thing is it helps you think with more of an NCO mentality. I also had a commander of mine suggest getting a book and on one side if it write down the good things you like about the junior leaders, your peers or even higher ups  with their leadership style. On the other side flip it over and do the opposite, write the bad qualities that they have so you never do them. </div><div><br></div><div>Hope some of this helps. </div><div><br></div><div>SSgt Hart </div>

Response by MAJ Sitz Randy made Nov 14 at 2013 10:44 PM

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Excellent question!  I was prior enlisted before getting my commission.  I was an E-7.  As a leader, you must be the soldier you want your subordinates to be.  You set the example.  Lead by doing!!  Listen to your soldiers and their concerns.  Care about your soldiers.  I know this is not new but a lot of leaders get in to positions of leadership and forget the basics or good soldiering.

Response by LTC Jason Bartlett made Nov 15 at 2013 10:32 AM

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Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 18 at 2013 11:06 AM

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<p>SGT Walker,</p><p> </p><p>You said that you haven't had many good examples to follow. That alone can be all that you need. Look at all the poor examples of leadership that you may have had and do the opposite. The biggest piece of advice that I can give is for you to not forget where you came from. Actually listen to your Soldiers, don't just hear them. Know your Soldiers better than they know themselves as it will help you handle situations and problems more effectively. You already know what right looks like; all you have to do is perform. Welcome to the Corps!!!</p>

Response by CPT Daniel Walk, M.B.A. made Nov 18 at 2013 1:32 PM

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<p>SGT Walker,</p><p> </p><p>There is a great deal of great advice. You will face challenges that many people have never faced. As we return to the garrison world, the standards will change. You will be surprised on a daily basis by what standards are emphsized and what the commanders are looking for out of their NCOs. Soldiers will be promoted because their dress uniform looks better than the person standing next to them. Juniors will be counseled and not promoted because their hair is 1mm too long. The craziness will not go away, it will change.</p><p> </p><p>Know your regulations, learn from your STPs and FMs, never take your knowledge for granted.... and when it comes right down to it.....</p><p> </p><p>"Don't train until you get it right, train until you can't get it wrong."</p><p>-I can't identify where I heard this, but it wasn't my invention.</p>

Response by SFC Ricardo Ruiz made Nov 18 at 2013 4:16 PM

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I wish I had known that not everyone who said to me I  got you six really got my back. My leadership in the other hand was pretty weak but I learned what not to do from them But I managed to learn by asking questions lots of them. So the more you ask the more you learn. Take care. 

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 22 at 2013 1:10 PM

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Everyone has given you great advice and anything I would say is simply re-hashing what has already been said. The only thing that I would add is that your NOT an E5 that is a pay grade your a Sergeant (SGT) you have worked hard to earn the title and you should be proud. Congratulations.

Response by SFC Michael Boulanger made Nov 22 at 2013 1:50 PM

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Make sure that you are very approachable but not their friends. You want them to come to you with whatever issues they have so you can help them come up with a course of action to solve the problem and so that the problem doesn't linger or get worse. The most important thing with this is that they are sure that you will be there for them but you are not their drinking buddy because you don't want to lose the respect of your fellow leaders.

Response by SSG(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 22 at 2013 1:54 PM

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The best advice I can give you is to be yourself. Shape and mold your own Leadership style. Separate yourself from your subordinates, but also let them know you really care about their well being. You take care of Soldiers, they will take care of you. Learn as much as you can because you never know when you technical or tactical expertise will be called upon. Good luck in your career SGT.

Response by CMC Robert Young made Nov 22 at 2013 7:15 PM

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SGT, it appears that you are getting a ton of valuable advice, and I would encourage you to evaluate it all while applying your on personal touch. Much of leadership is about how we approach the people we lead. With that said, I would offer that there a handful of character traits you must always demonstrate. First, your moral compass must always be firmly fixed and your behavior never in question. Next, you must be deeply self aware. Know who you are and how who you are impacts others. Third, you have to have great people skills. Know your people and always create an air of approachability tempered by professionalism. Fourth, your work ethic must be demonstrated daily. Leading means being in the thick of what's being done. And finally, know your MOS. If you don't know your job cold, it will cost you creditability points with your subordinates. You're going to be fine. You got this!!

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 28 at 2013 12:47 AM

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SGT Walker - I remember the day I was promoted to E-5 back in the day.  I wish someone had told me that my buddies (E-1-E-4) would take advantage of our friendship that we had before I was promoted.  Remember - you have to separate your official duties as their supervisor from the personal relationship you may have had when you were SPCs together.  Now - you must enforce standards that you may have broken while you were an E-4.  Do the right thing…when no one is watching…and you will do just fine!  Professionally develop your subordinates, continue your professional and civilian education!  Good Luck!

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 30 at 2013 9:43 PM

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1) Getting your hands dirty is a now a privilege.

As a Sergeant and no longer a Specialist you will be responsible for the work of 3-5 Soldiers and potentially many more during random work details. So you must ensure all placed under your charge are gainfully employed or training before you pitch in. Once you start pitching in what ever task it is that needs to be accomplished pause periodically and take a head count. If someone is off task, be firm, and redirect. Only if everyone is productive can you get your hands dirty too.

2) Scan left to right and top to bottom.

Even when it looks like you are not working you are now. Always look for deficiencies in actions, attitudes, dress, and products. So scan the crowd of Soldiers to your front from left to right and top to bottom, correct professionally, and resume your scan. Your work is now never done.

3) Always ready to train in a moment's notice.

Have prepared in your assault pack prepared training for any 20 minute gap that arises in the training schedule. Read up on your selected training subject one month prior to execution, sign out or create the visual training aids, and rehearse with your squad leader.

So for instance in the month January you will train any and all Soldiers within your circle of influence on Employ and Recover a M18A1 Antipersonnel Mine.

--So in the first two weeks of December read up on everything you can find on the subject; history, physical characteristics and construction, command vs. trigger detonation, camouflage techniques and other field craft such as unspooling wire and S-rolling for easier deployment, blast area effects, back blast area distance for protected and unprotected personnel, ect.

--In the third week sign for or create the visual aids and rehearse with them and gain mastery.

--In the fourth week rehearse in front of your squad leader or platoon sergeant and refine as necessary.

--During the month of January execute the training with as many Soldiers as you can reach and they will surely be impressed with your competence.

Best of Luck and Congratulations!

Response by COL Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 7 at 2013 12:39 PM

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First, be a Sergeant, not an E5. The Army has plenty of E5s. We need SGTs. Second, there are three reasons why a Soldier isn't executing the standard: 1. He or she doesn't know the standard; 2. There isn't a standard; 3. He or she doesn't care about the standard. Finally, the SGT can affect all three. Congratulations on your promotion to SGT. Be Great not Good...

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 7 at 2013 1:03 PM

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If your remaining at your current assignment. I suggest a week of quiet and attention...watch the soldiers and how they interact with one another. Lead a couple PRT sessions as well and if not volunteer for them it shows early your dedicated to the continuous improvement of Soldier fitness and your own leadership skills. Then after a week counsel all Soldiers generally for the ones your responsible. Note expectations, gratitude, and problem areas that need to be rectified. Include counseling's reflecting negative performance as well as positive and enforce the STANDARDS.... you are being watched at all times for weakness or shortcomings... prepare for longer days at times but wreak benefits that come with leading. The short-term get SSD 1 complete for all soldiers under your leadership with first six months affording them an opportunity to go to WLC. Get to your schools NCO at BN get enrolled in ALC-CC and bang it out in less than 30 days you can get a letter of completion from Commandant at Ft Bliss which is a possible bullet for your next NCOER. Request additional military training as it becomes available to your unit within its own training guidelines, policy, and schedule. Overall you need to understand and cope with varieties of personalities and adjust appropriately for what is to come. Remember your no longer a Soldier alone. Your a Leader of Soldiers and will perform as one. ALL EYES ON YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 7 at 2013 1:14 PM

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I feel so lucky to have had such great mentors give me amazing advice. I am so glad i asked this question. I walk into my new unit in January and because of all your help and great advice i feel like i am more prepared and ready for the adventure ahead.
You all have been fantastic.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 7 at 2013 10:37 PM

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I used to be an E-5, so don't feel like you've got some weirdo officer trying to offer you NCO advice. Bottom line: you are not one of the gang anymore and you're no one's friend. Don't care too much about whether everyone likes you. You need to make sure the job gets done, even if it means that someone's feelings get hurt.

Response by SFC Stephen Hester made Dec 7 at 2013 11:34 PM

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1. Remember the Army Values and the NCO Creed. <div>2. Do what is right and do it the right way. </div><div>3. Remain tactically and technically proficient. You must be able to train your troops.</div><div>4. Communicate. Often. </div><div>5. Counsel. Soldiers need feedback both positive and negative. </div><div>6. Ask for advice/help before you get in a jam.</div><div>7. You are a Sergeant, not an E-5. "Sergeant" is your rank, E-5 is your pay grade. Never refer to another Soldier by his or her pay grade. </div><div><br></div><div>I could include more but there are some great comments in the other responses. Good Luck!</div>

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 10 at 2013 4:50 PM

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Congratulations! Lots of great advice here. Don't ever put your personal goals ahead of your Soldiers. Be quick to give recognition, firm in your guidance, and forgiving in your demeanor. And always remember that you are a Sergeant, not a Paygrade. ;)<br>

Response by SFC James Baber made Jan 11 at 2014 11:39 PM

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I think this is a good thread for those we are trying to get to join can see the substance of some things we discuss between us as current and former military, soft spoken as well as informational and mentoring types of postings.

We also have fun at times while remaining professional.

Response by GySgt Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 12 at 2014 12:36 AM

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When I was an NCO, i had the NCO creed posted and I require my Marines to do the same to remind them of their responsibilities. As a SNCO, I have the SNCO creed posted to remind me what is expected.

You won't be perfect, you will make mistakes, you will learn, and you will become a better leader everyday.

Response by MSG Martinis Butler made Jan 19 at 2014 7:25 AM

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Always have an open mind and never be to prideful to ask for help. Keep in mind that you have individuals in higher ranks than you are that don't know everything that they need to know for their position. No one knows it all so just be open and grow as time goes on.

Response by SGM Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 20 at 2014 2:05 PM

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SGT Walker,

Here's some things that have helped me as a leader.

Work Hard - every day, every minute, every second - I'm the first one in and the last one out.

Give suspenses and follow up on them.

Give complements when deserved.

Listen to your subordinates - don't think you have the answers to everything, get feed back from all across the rank spectrum.

Stand up for your Soldiers - this goes a long way. Know when they have issues and take care of them.

Set high standards - your Soldiers will surprise you when they reach them, because they will.

Don't tell your Soldiers to do something that you haven't done or aren't willing to do.

Don't let your ego get in the way, admit when you're wrong.

Be honest - both up and down the chain.

Make sure your morals are beyond reproach.

Be approachable but not so approachable that the Soldiers think you're their buddy.

Delegate - If I don't make my subordinate leaders responsible for company related things they'll never grow.

These are just some things that have helped.

Good luck and take care!

Response by SSgt George Brown made Feb 7 at 2014 11:27 PM

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READ, READ, READ leadership books. Be a leader not a manager. A manager manages a load of crap, while the leader shows the way out of it.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 13 at 2014 11:54 PM

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I had my first two drills with my new unit and use a lot of the advice i was given. I feel amazingly well prepared because i read and took note of the advice you gave me. <br>I have my e4s as my assistant team leaders, i have them mock counseling, making a leader book and helping me be accountable for the soldiers i have assigned them. My junior soldiers i started them doing their SSD1 and keeping them out of trouble. I am so thankful for all of the advice and help and so far the nicest thing i was told was from my PLT SSG who told me i was a SGT far above my time in grade. <br>Thank i thank you for. <br><br>

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 28 at 2014 1:58 AM

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You must . . . love being a Soldier; love being

around other Soldiers; love leading, training

and caring for Soldiers and their families; be

technically and tactically proficient; be dedicated,

motivated, physically fit, mentally alert and

morally straight; believe in your fellow Soldier, in

your Army and in your nation; strive to be all you

can be. And, if you’re a leader, want the same for

those in your charge.

—SMA Richard A. Kidd

The NCO Creed must be your rock and will be the foundation of your leadership and professionalism. Good luck to you SGT Walker.

Response by SSG(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 28 at 2014 2:23 AM

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I love your question SGT Walker.

The most important thing in my opinion is to absolutely LEAD BY EXAMPLE in your day to day routine as an NCO.

Your subordinates will emulate you and follow your footsteps be they right or be they wrong.

If you show your troops that being late, out of uniform and disrespectful is acceptable because those are things you do then they will mimic that behavior. If you are 15 minutes early for everything, show up looking sharp and show respect for all ranks and even go so far as to consistently snap to parade rest for higher ranks then your Soldiers will mimic that too.

Make sure that if you correct your troops for something they do wrong that you are not guilty for doing that too. Makes no difference what it is.

1SG Brock was absolutely correct in all of his responses so I'm not going to repeat all of that. lol

The only other thing I can think of is learn how deal with the opposite gender when counseling and mentoring. It can be difficult at times and there are no hard and fast rules on how to do it, because every human being is different. There are guidelines yes, but no magic bullet that works across the board. Know your troops and what counseling, mentoring or leadership approach works for each Soldier. That takes time, but pays dividends. A stern or rough approach with one troop might be fine and the Soldier will work hard and do the right thing all the time. That same approach with another troop may backfire and shut them down where they will not work or even respect you.

Ask for guidance from NCO's senior to you who you trust and have a good work relationship with. The truth is you will not always have the answer for everything and you will struggle from time to time. Don't let pride get in the way. Ask for help if you get stuck. There is no shame in that and your Soldiers will respect you for it.

Hope that helps. Good luck to you and welcome to the NCO Corps!!!! Hooah!!

Response by SSG Dave Rogers made Feb 28 at 2014 2:36 AM

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There will be lots of different advice, and yes it is important to follow the NCO creed, but what makes a great NCO compared to a good NCO is simple treat the soldiers working for you with respect. There are two kinds of leaders, those that earn respect and those that demand it.

1. Not only show that you know how to do the job, but also teach them how to do it. I use to give my soldiers responsibliity in the squad and taught that what was expected from them.

2. Never ask them to do something if you are not willing to do it yourself. When setting up in the field I was always there with them working just as hard, not just telling them what to do.

3. Reward them for a good job. When ever my squad would do good I would let them know. I would sometimes have a BBQ or take them to lunch. If someone did great I was sure to write up the job they did. Reports are not just for when someone does bad, but for when they do good. And if they did super I would recommend a certificate or award if it warrant. It let them know that I appreciated their hard work, was willing to let others know they were doing good.

When the soldiers working for you know that you will take care of them, they will take care of you. When your squad looks good you look good.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 1 at 2014 8:29 AM

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Congrats SGT Walker! First I would say you're a brand new Sergeant not an E-5, simply because you need to understand that you are a leader of Soldiers and not a pay grade. Leading Soldiers is a great responsibility but it also yields it's own great rewards....

1. Always be Professional; There will be times that you are challenged in this with your peers and your subordinates even, but remember the best way to set to teach is by setting the example first.

2. Be Accountable; Good, bad, right or wrong. Accept your part in it. Don't be a leader who only wants to lead when everything is going right....That's NOT leading!

3. Mistakes happen; It's ok to make mistakes, you are human (not a machine), just make sure you learn from them and move on. Never get stuck on the decision that was already after the fact.

4. Be Approachable; It's all good to have a strong drive to get the mission accomplished but make sure your Soldiers understand that they can come to you. They need to know that they can look to you for guidance. The moment they stop bringing you their problems is the moment you stop leading them.

5. Mission - NCO's make it happen; Not too much to say about getting the mission done except try to be an outside of the box thinker and be open to different points of view from peers and subordinates. If you notice a problem try and find a solution to suggest; nothing wrong with being one or two steps ahead.

*NOTE: Notice mission wasn't the first thing I spoke of. While getting the mission done is important it is NOT the only thing and it is NOT the only thing that makes good leaders into great leaders.

6. Live out the Creed; N.C.O. Those words that were written so long hold the same truth today as then. It is my honest belief that some have lost perspective of what the creed is trying to convey. The Army is always transforming and ever changing; we've got to maintain the continuity between the incoming Soldiers and the outgoing seasoned leaders. Your Soldiers will need you lead them. Your senior leadership will depend on you to train them up in the way they should go in order to accomplish the mission.

7. Be a Subject Matter Expert at your level; This is already stated in our creed ("be tactically and technically proficient"). Be SME in your field and additionally understand how your job effects the others around you and plays it's part in the mission. This will help in situations where there is a whole in the knowledge base.

8. Humble yourself; It is truly an honor to lead Soldiers but it is possible to forget that you were in their shoes once. Don't get to the point where you can't receive constructive criticism and don't forget where you cam from.

That's just my "two cents" but seeing that you are willingly open to advice I'm sure you will do fine. Good Luck Battle!!

PS. I just saw that this post is like 5 mos old but I had already typed this out.

Response by LCpl Mark Lefler made Apr 1 at 2014 10:47 AM

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don't be a hypocrite... don't get mad at a subordinate who does something that you, yourself would do that's not necessarily right. Don't be the nco that does 70 in a 55 then gets mad at someone for their driving. It is better for people to follow you out of respect then it is to follow you out of fear, they'll care more if they respect you. The fastest way to lose your subordinates respect is to be a hypocrite or unnecessarily mean.

Stand up for your sub's if they deserve it even if it might not be the popular thing to do.

Be the example of what to be, not what to not be.

Response by PO1 William "Chip" Nagel made Apr 7 at 2014 7:47 PM

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Start assumimg more duties and practicing leadership skill sets because I was amazed at how quick I went from E-5 to E-6, Even though it took me 4 Test Cycles it was on me before I knew it. Keep Learning and Keep Growing.

Response by CW4 John Beebe, BS, DML made Apr 7 at 2014 8:35 PM

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For what it is worth, let me add two points to the extended discussion. One, remember to always counsel for both reasons, GOOD and bad. Soldiers are conditioned that a DA Form 4856 is a punishment and nothing is further from the truth. Use that tool for recording all things out of the norm. By this, I mean, when they do something bad and the 1SG wants their counseling on his/her desk by lunch, remember to counsel them for the outstanding things they do as well. As much as bad records hurt, good records help, especially for awards and so forth. You may need a justification for an AAM someday and pulling the counseling packet may provide exactly what you need. It is an incredible motivator to receive a positive or congratulatory counseling, I received one as a CPL and you can ask all the soldiers I have ever led how they felt if they ever received one.

Second, Mentorship! You mentioned having seen bad leadership. You know what that looks like. Seek true leaders and learn from others mistakes so you don't have to make them. Actively get advice from admirable leadership and steer clear of poor leaders. Live the example you want others to follow. Leadership says, "Follow Me!" not "Move out!".

Chief

Response by CSM Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 8 at 2014 4:02 AM

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First off Congratulations on Joining one of the best professional organizations in the world (yes I said world) the US Military NCO Corps.

1. I personally was told when I first became an NCO find a few NCO's that have qualities you like and copy them and make them your own. By doing this you will become one of the best.

2. Always strive to do better then your peers but also help them when they need it.

3. Have an open mind

4. Make a decision and adjust if need be but lead from the front.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made May 11 at 2014 3:58 PM

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When I became an NCO I was not shown how to do the job above me. As far as soldiering we barely have lower enlisted but like what is previously said get to know your soldiers and make sure they also know the difference between work and friendship. So I would say know your job above you, pay attention to detail and, draw that friendship line so they know you are serious but your there to help them as well

Response by SSG William Sutter made May 26 at 2014 5:57 AM

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I would have to say that you need to understand that no one is perfect. Always be fair and impartial. When a Soldier does something right, congrats or good job is in order, if they do wrong then ALWAYS gear corrective training directly to what was done wrong so they know what they did was wrong and they show what is right.

Response by SGM Private RallyPoint Member made May 26 at 2014 9:38 AM

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I also agree with 1SG Brock! A leader knows how to follow as well. They admit there mistakes and learn from it. They investigate not assume or blame. They know there job is challenging and has great responsibility and have to remember to make the right/hard choices over the easy ones. Congratulations and best wishes!

Response by SGT Alfred Cox made May 28 at 2014 3:15 AM

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Follow and Read your NCO guide. Book cost $7.95... Learn from your mistakes cause you will make them.. Ask for guidance when needed from Your Squad leader or Platoon Sergeant. And Above all.. your former peers are now your Soldiers.. dissolve your friendships with them or ask to be moved to another platoon or unit. There are no more hey buddy stuff anymore. oh wait.. 7 months ago... ok well hows it going so far...and have you received you first negative counseling yet?...lol

Response by SSG Ed Mikus made May 28 at 2014 4:54 AM

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Read and ponder the NCO creed every day before dealing with troops, knowledge comes from every rank to every rank, none of us are exempt, lisiten to what your JR's have to say.

You will do fine if you follow and understaind The Creed

Response by SGT Devan Fenn made May 30 at 2014 9:56 PM

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Teach them discipline, and understanding at the same time. The new enlisted soldiers that show up fresh, do not have the same millitary bearing.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 27 at 2014 2:24 PM

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Just because you always did what your NCO asked you to do does not mean that your Soldiers will do what you ask. If you tell them to do something, you have to check their work before you tell the platoon sergeant it was done. That was my first mistake as a young NCO. Fortunately my platoon sergeant was understanding and I certainly learned my lesson.

Response by SSG Kenneth Harris made Aug 20 at 2014 1:51 PM

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lead the way you would have liked to been (from the front) and remember your troops work for the army and you work for them.

SSG Kenneth Harris

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 21 at 2014 3:34 PM

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I am going to make a comment on all the comments I have been reading...

Wow.

I once was a young NCO coming into a world of the unknown and its NCO's and officers like the ones on here that helped me grow and become a better leader. All the advice on here is phenomenal. I had good leaders, and some good advice but I can honestly say that some of the things that I just read now, are more valuable that a lot of the things I learned as an NCO.

Heck, I am pretty sure I can take a handful of this and use it to become a good officer. After all, NCOs are the backbone of the Army. Without them, even with all the brass around I dont know how we could do it. We couldnt...

I think I am rambling, but this was awesome!

Great comments! Stoked I learned something today!!

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 22 at 2014 4:18 PM

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I would advice you to not punish any soldiers till after 6 months from when you get your E5. Learn to lead on a positive attitude and find your leadership style.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 2 at 2014 10:44 PM

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Always reflect on the Army Values, Keep the NCO creed in your heart, always seek knowledge from leadership resources, don't put your personal goals above your soldiers, respect your soldiers, trust your judgement, and lead from the front!!!!

Response by SFC Jim Ruether made Jan 20 at 2015 2:21 PM

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Getting my Sergeants Stripes was one of the proudest moments of my life as I was being recognized for the leadership traits and general concern and care for my section members. I had been working towards this goal and gladly accepted the additional responsibilities that went with the rank. When you make Sergeant there will be people in your unit that will expect things like favoritism and that you might overlook things out of respect for their friendship. Remember that a true professional will never ask you to look the other way and lower your expectations when judging their performance. Be honest, personable but maintain that professional separation when you are in uniform. Look forward as the CSM said. Your Sergeants Stripes are like the beginning of your NCO Career and you will have other opportunities to advance, take them and strive to always be a better leader. Care for your troops, see to it that their needs are met. If they know you are looking out for them they will get their assigned details done and be ready for the next assignment. In other words they will take care of you.

Response by MSgt Rob Weston made Feb 4 at 2015 6:44 PM

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Rule #1: take care of your troops, know them and have empathy.

Rule#2 document when ever your troops show repeated disregard for regs and instructions. Don't put on blast for a single incident.

Rule #3 know the regs or know where to find the answer and teach your troops this as well.

Rule #4: groom your replacement and learn what is needed for you to progress

Rule #5: know and act accordingly to what your NCO creed and regs for that position.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 4 at 2015 7:54 PM

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Reading suggestions NCO GUIDE FM 7-22.7 & THREE METER ZONE from JD Pendry. Great books to read.

Response by CPL Rick Stasny made Feb 4 at 2015 7:54 PM

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No advice here, just a quick congratulations.

Response by MAJ Jessie Taylor made Feb 6 at 2015 11:01 AM

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SGT, 1st and for most! You are successful at this point, because you are unaffaird to seek advice, this is the 1st step to becoming a leader. I was enlisted for 15 years, and had the pleasure of serving within the NCO CORP 12yrs.
Live and breathe the NCO Creed, although the are just words, the words define and inspire leadership!

Lead by example in Word, Action and Deeds both 'On and Off' duty.

Remember! You are a direct reflection of what you repersent, and you don't just repersent the United States Army: You repersent what it means to be an American!

Response by SSG Trevor S. made Feb 6 at 2015 11:39 AM

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Self confidence is exuded by those who are comfortable enough to be open for improvement. Be able to be wrong and willing to learn from it.

Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made May 19 at 2015 2:06 PM

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This is what I expected from E-6s. They had to be technically and tactically proficient. They are expected to plan and execute operations. They are expected the mentor the E-5s and the soldiers. I put a lot of emphasis on the E-5s because they should know what is going professionally and personally in their soldiers lives. One example is knowing what their weekend plans are. If a soldier says he is driving from Texas to Minnesota over the weekend something has to be re-explored.

Response by CW4 Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 27 at 2015 1:16 PM

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First off, congratulations. Secondly find top notch NCO's in your unit and elsewhere to learn from. Either an established Sqaud leader, your platoon SGT, 1SG......etc. Pick their brains and emulate certain attributes. Develop your leadership style based off regulations and common sense. Get into the regulations and learn what is legit and what is barracks lawyer nonsense. Your not going to be able to remember every regulation but you are expected to be able to research the regulations and train your subordinates accordingly. Treat Soldiers fairly. Be willing to do everything you are asking them to do. Provide realistic training for your Soldiers at all times regardless if it MOS related or not. The NCO Creed is real, follow it. You will make mistakes, learn from them. Don't be afraid to make decisions. Good luck.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 27 at 2015 1:19 PM

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As an E5 your primary job is to lead by doing.
You want to outperform your guys on everything. PT them into the dirt. Run circles around them. Do everything you can as a team so they can see that you are the leader of that team.
As an E5 your PSG should be constantly trying to restrain you from going over the edge, like a junkyard dog on a chain. Protect your people fiercely. Stand up to your boss for them. Protect them like an umbrella from the storm of crap that will inevitably fall on their heads. Expect the best out of them. Accept nothing less. Then you will inspire your crew to greatness.

Response by SFC Kenneth Hunnell made Jun 27 at 2015 1:24 PM

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Do not let the rank go to your head.always remember what it was like being a at lower rank

Response by CSM Michael J. Uhlig made Jun 27 at 2015 1:55 PM

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Congratulations and it motivates me to see a hungry young leader that is thirsty for knowledge and looking forward to the challenges that are ahead. Lead by example, accomplish your mission and take care of your Soldiers. Live the Creed, counsel your Soldiers often, and ensure you include positive event-oriented counseling's as well as monthly counseling's. Stay versed in current doctrine, get involved in the NCOPD and LPDs within the unit, and go to a unit training meeting to gain the experience. Ensure you are relevant and current with the unit mission, look at the training schedules and volunteer to teach classes and be the primary or assistant instructor during Sgt's Time Training.

A couple recommendations. Familiarize yourself with doctrine - you want to be a relevant NCO so you must know your craft and the doctrine as well.

A couple specifics document to look at to get you started:

ADP 6-22 (ARMY LEADERSHIP): http://armypubs.army.mil/doctrine/DR_pubs/dr_a/pdf/adp6_22.pdf

ADP 7-0 (TRAINING UNITS AND DEVELOPING LEADERS) http://armypubs.army.mil/doctrine/DR_pubs/DR_a/pdf/adp7_0.pdf

Finally, do not quit being the example, go out there and compete at the Soldier and/or NCO of the month competitions, and challenge your Soldiers to do the same. Challenge them in word and on paper during the monthly counseling. Know your Soldiers battle sight zero. Those immediate leaders that knew their Soldiers battle sight zero typically really knew their Soldiers!

This is a huge step in your career and an awesome responsibility - do not take it for granted and always keep the best interest of your Soldiers in mind in every decision you make - and never, NEVER forget where you came from.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 27 at 2015 4:00 PM

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SGT Garcia,
Congratulations on your promotion! I have no doubt that you will get a lot of mentorship advices from all the NCOs on RP. As a prior service NCO, my one advice to you is: care for your Soldier.

Response by SPC Sean Barney made Jun 27 at 2015 5:09 PM

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Remember that not everything is about the Book. I'm not sure what your MOS is Sgt Walker. But nothing can trump first hand knowledge no matter how recently the Field Manual was revised. Teaching and Mentoring your soldiers does not mean you have to grind them into the dirt at the smallest infraction, they went through basic already.
As for being a leader, just remember you can't lead if they won't follow you. It's on you to gain their loyalty and Respect. Show your soldiers you're about more than their rank. Sure you might hear grumblings about fraternization but thats a whole different monkey. I had no issue sepperating Professional interaction from Personal.

Response by SFC Stephen King made Jun 27 at 2015 6:49 PM

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Congratulations to you. Remember now your are entering a time honored corps. Lead by example. Set the standard as well as enforce it. Do not be afraid to try and fail for we learn from failure and develop personal growth.

Response by SSG Sean Garcia made Jun 27 at 2015 6:59 PM

2015-06-27T18:59:35-04:00

First and foremost remember that you are not better than your subordinates. You must have the ability to show compassion and to instill power at the same time. Think about all the not so good leaders you have had and use that as a learning tool. You must also feel comfortable in your own shoes. Subordinates need a leader that they can learn from. Never stop learning and teaching. Most importantly, if you have an opinion, keep it to yourself or say it to another NCO with no subordinates in close proximity. I've had so many talks with Sergeants on being professional. As an NCO you are a professional and you will be treated as a leader if you act like one. Don't expect things to be handed to you. That's my 2 cents. Congratulations on becoming part of the corps I wish you the best for your new journey of being a noncommissioned officer.

Response by SFC Patrick R. Weston, MPH made Jul 2 at 2015 6:19 AM

2015-07-02T06:19:08-04:00

Adhere to the NCO Creed for starters. Keep an open mind regarding your NCO and commissioned leadership, they are not perfect, but you can learn from their experiences and leadership styles as you build your own. Take the positive as well as the negatives. Do not be afraid to learn or admit that you don't know something. Familiarize yourself with the regulations that govern your MOS, as well as others such as Preparing Army Correspondence, DA Pam 710-2-1, AR 735-5, etc. find yourself a mentor. Be a mentor. And always be aware that Soldiers are watching you 24/7. Be the standard you wish your subordinates to follow and always ensure they are adequately prepared for whatever tasks you delegate to them. Be an effective listener and ensure you can convey yourself clearly. Pursue your education and save your money. Check to see if there are any additional duties you may be interested in and apply for them. Start building your "I love me" book. And lastly, congratulations and welcome to the NCO Corps.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 3 at 2015 5:14 PM

2015-07-03T17:14:34-04:00

Someone already thinks you have what it takes but the easiest thing is to learn from mistakes of others, continue to improve yourself and your education level and take care of the soldiers below you. Make sure your guys have every opportunity to grow and learn bettering your unit as a whole from the ground up

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 6 at 2015 9:51 AM

2015-07-06T09:51:17-04:00

Be knowledgeable and be confident. Make decisions and plans (within your lane of course) and own them. Even if you make a mistake your soldiers will follow you if you aren't wishy washy.

Expect to make mistakes still, but learn from them, and teach your joes so they know better too.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 16 at 2015 7:18 PM

2015-09-16T19:18:26-04:00

Honestly SGT, just remember that you were once a lower-enlisted too, and you'll be relied on heavily by your subordinates to deal both fairly and compassionately. Not as a "I'm an NCO, and you're not" kind of dictator. Follow the example of the NCOs above you, and listen carefully to those below you.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 17 at 2015 7:40 PM

2015-09-17T19:40:31-04:00

One piece of advice that I got way back in PLDC (been in awhile) stood out:
"Hold no grudges".
Holding a grudge takes your time, your energy, and keeps you focused on the negative. A truly odious person will remind you from time to time why you don't like them: let them waste their energy, and I guarantee you others already notice what you notice. Deal with situations as they arise, but don't nurse simmering antagonism. No one wins, least of all you.

Response by SFC Jay Needham made Sep 17 at 2015 9:36 PM

2015-09-17T21:36:03-04:00

I was lucky as I was a Corporal for over a year prior to making my cut off score when I did make E-5 I was moved to another PLT. Regardless I would say the biggest challenge is now your relationships with your friends must change as you now must earn their respect not just be a friend.

Response by CPT Gary Jugenheimer made Jan 9 at 2016 11:31 AM

2016-01-09T11:31:10-05:00

SGT Walker you are already on the track to lead yourself to success...having the desire to be great is commendable....not willing to sit on the sidelines as on observer but willing to dig in and get "bloody"....not literally but you will make mistakes regardless on how often you try not to...you will need to learn from these mistakes and recognize the steps needed to avoid them in the future....your troops will look up to you because of your rank...how long that will last is dependent upon the two way communications you develop between those under your control...you need not be a hard-ass as I believe in the end this will come back to bite you...you need to be fair in your dealings and above all keep your integrity...you will find that this will become difficult at first but as you gain respect as a "straight shooter' and never ask those under you to do something you would not do yourself you will be OK.....respect and follow the leadership of those above you....they may try to communicate the "big picture" but at times it will seem hazy...you will have to try and see through this to determine exactly what the mission is regardless of fuzzy orders...here is where your diplomacy and tact will be tested and how you address these issues will result in success or failure....hopefully more successes!

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 29 at 2018 11:02 PM

2018-08-29T23:02:17-04:00

I recently was promoted E6 - this discussion truly did set the path to being a better leader and i am so glad i asked you all - so thank you

Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made Jul 2 at 2019 1:58 PM

2019-07-02T13:58:56-04:00

Write down a list of leadership traits or values that you are endeared too. It is imperative for you to communicate well, train to standards, and find ways to help the soldiers improve professionally and personally. How do you find the ways so the soldiers trust you and know that you care about them. A bonus is how to relax and have some fun with the troops.

I use to arrange UH-60 flights for the soldiers. I BBQd for them after SGT's time, we gave soldiers a day off for their birthdays, had potluck lunches, we went on a 4 mile run and there was hot chow and transportation for us at the end, I would pass down restaurant certificates, fought for them, and my NCOs and I agreed to give time off compensation which made finding volunteers for work end duty easier.

I have always said the E-5 has an important role as the first line supervisor because they are where the rubber meets the road with the soldiers.

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made May 19 at 2020 9:44 PM

2020-05-19T21:44:05-04:00

First of all, congrats. Second of all, being promoted gives you a license to LEARN..It also means that someone believes that you have the leadership qualities it takes to teach -- be a leader by listening first, responding with solutions, and always be aware that people are watching you (both younger generations and older). Be the reliable one and keep doing what you're doing. You got this.

Response by LCpl Mark Lefler made May 27 at 2020 11:42 PM

2020-05-27T23:42:30-04:00

I saw this was 6 yrs ago, how has your military journey been going?

Response by SSG Watis Ekthuvapranee made Aug 27 at 2020 10:52 AM

2020-08-27T10:52:20-04:00

1. FM 22-100 and FM 22-101, find the old one, not the new Sigmund Floyd mentality. But the one that written by Soldier post Vietnam era, they are more in line with current/mainstream Psychology.

2. NCO creed, memorize it, live it, it said it all. They are a be, know, do for the NCO. First paragraph - be, second paragraph - know, and third paragraph - do.

3. Be an NCO that you wish you have as your boss. Even animal like monkey, dog, or even cat knows when they are unfairly treated and can invoke nature's "seven sin".

4. If you are a religious person (All religious are saying pretty much the same when it comes to Sins and Virtues.), understand what will invoke nature's seven sin and what it will take to inspire your Soldiers to adduce to "seven virtue". Note: Seven virtue and sin are all living things instinct, not exclusively to human. It's scientifically proven animal has them too. Google it for more information.

5. Be mindful of your Soldiers reaction to what you do and say. (Feedback)

6. Expect the worst, and hope for the best. Know that you are not perfect and will never be perfect ; therefore, always seek self-improvement.

Response by SSG Jeff Furgerson made Aug 27 at 2020 6:19 PM

2020-08-27T18:19:21-04:00

I second what the CSM said, you will face alot of new challenges as a leader that were not there before and as an NCO you will have to make decisions that will not be popular with some of your friends that you may now have to give orders too, You will learn to see the bigger picture now, Remember Accomplishment of the mission and welfare of the soldier will also be important , and when you get a chance to attend the leadership schools you will learn alot, Stay positive , set a good example to your fellow soldiers and you will do great , best of luck on your journey.

Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made Aug 27 at 2020 8:08 PM

2020-08-27T20:08:16-04:00

As the commander I told the E-5s that they were where the rubber meets to the road in respect to close contact with the soldiers. Get to know the soldiers and their families and support them. Find out what the soldiers will do on weekends. Take care of the soldiers.

Of course this does not replace Troop Leading Procedures, but it gave them an azimuth that I wanted the E-5s to follow.