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So from right to left I wear Sr Parachutist Badge, Ranger Tab and then Air Assault. <br /><br />In my option the Sr Parachutist Badge is more prestigious. Not because one skill is more important than the other. Rather because the Parachutist Badge have three levels: basic, senior and master parachutist. To earn a Senior Parachutist Badge one must be jump master qualified, jump mastered a number of jumps and amassed a number of jumps. The earn a Master Parachutist Badge one needs to be jump master qualified, jump mastered a number of jumps and amassed even more jumps. Perhaps a change in the regs could be made to create a similar Senior and Master Air Assault Badge. <br /><br />For those parachutist who make a combat jump there are stars added on their wings for each combat jump. But Air Assault Badges aren't authorized similar stars on their wings for individuals making "combat" air assaults. Maybe a change in the regs is warranted here. <br /><br />"Let's Go", "Currahee" and "Strike"Response by MAJ Steven Szymurski made Dec 9 at 2015 11:01 PM2015-12-09T23:01:07-05:002015-12-09T23:01:07-05:00SSG Private RallyPoint Member1301258<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I ha e been through both schools. I tend to lean toward the airborne side. But I thinking really depends on where you are stationed at which one is more prestigious. I am currently at Fort Campbell so it is all about Air Assault.Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 14 at 2016 9:41 AM2016-02-14T09:41:15-05:002016-02-14T09:41:15-05:00SGT(P) Private RallyPoint Member1301260<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>History and tradition will always say Airborne!Response by SGT(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 14 at 2016 9:42 AM2016-02-14T09:42:13-05:002016-02-14T09:42:13-05:00CPT(P) Private RallyPoint Member1301261<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>On the line. In the Army. No one cares about your badges. So prestige might be easier for a retiree to address. Usefulness, air assault for sling load ops and general info about the Army's rotary wing. And airborne to qualify to go on jump status at an airborne unit. I'd look into what you want to do in the future and pick based on that. If you want to remain light and jump then airborne. If you want to learn some practical military knowledge on sling loads and birds... Air assault.Response by CPT(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 14 at 2016 9:42 AM2016-02-14T09:42:18-05:002016-02-14T09:42:18-05:00CPT Private RallyPoint Member1301267<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Having earned both of these, I would say that the prestige belongs to the airborne community. This is not because I am currently in an airborne unit, it is because of the history and tradition of the paratrooper. If the question was which is more useful or which is harder to earn, I would go with aor assault.Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 14 at 2016 9:43 AM2016-02-14T09:43:48-05:002016-02-14T09:43:48-05:00CW4 Juan Morales1301270<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Anyone who has graduated these courses should be proud of the badge. That said, the parachutist badge has a longer history. It's also a bit of a 'niche' skill. The Air Assault badge was designed in the seventies to look like the old school glider badge. An Air Assault trooper comes out of the school prepared to operate in and around helicopters confidently, but to do any of the specialties covered requires additional schooling. The curriculum at Air Assault is also a bit hodge-podge, making one wonder why it's relevant to the course. All training in Airborne School is focused on parachute operations. You come out of Airborne School qualified to exit aircraft in flight. You don't need Air Assault to ride in a helicopter.Response by CW4 Juan Morales made Feb 14 at 2016 9:44 AM2016-02-14T09:44:39-05:002016-02-14T09:44:39-05:00CW2 Ted Turner1301274<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Airborne. Air Assault were my first wings with 101st for Six years but after doing time in 82nd I have a whole new respect for Airborne.Response by CW2 Ted Turner made Feb 14 at 2016 9:45 AM2016-02-14T09:45:50-05:002016-02-14T09:45:50-05:00LTC John Shaw1301276<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I have both, I prefer Air Assault as i am rappel master qualfied and used the skills more than jumping, just because of the load qualifications and flexibility of helicopters and these platforms.Response by LTC John Shaw made Feb 14 at 2016 9:47 AM2016-02-14T09:47:06-05:002016-02-14T09:47:06-05:00SGT(P) Eric L.1301278<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Go to Airborne school then Ranger school then Pathfinder school, and then after all that if you have time; go to Air Assault school....that's how little Air Assault matters. <br /><br />Even if you aren't Air Assault qualified and your in a high speed infantry unit you will get Air Assault training and use it.Response by SGT(P) Eric L. made Feb 14 at 2016 9:47 AM2016-02-14T09:47:30-05:002016-02-14T09:47:30-05:00SSG Private RallyPoint Member1301282<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Non are prestigious....it's if you use them.<br />Airborne....if you don't ever go into an airborne unit, why are you wasting the Army's money?<br />Air Assault- while I'm not AA qualified, I have preformed a few in training and in combat, but I guess if you have the badge people think your cool.hahaResponse by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 14 at 2016 9:50 AM2016-02-14T09:50:18-05:002016-02-14T09:50:18-05:00LTC Private RallyPoint Member1301331<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>There are a lot of good comments here. And my comments are basically covered below but here goes anyway. I think airborne is probably prestigious, and harder to earn, but for conventional troops is basically useless. I don't think we are going to jump into any battlefield and time soon, or possibly ever again. Air assault training on the other hand is useful. We conduct slingloads daily in combat and move troops into combat via helicopters many times a day. True the repelling and fast roping part is rarely done anymore but the knowledge base is still useable. Just my two cents.Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 14 at 2016 10:05 AM2016-02-14T10:05:55-05:002016-02-14T10:05:55-05:00LTC Stephen C.1301472<div class="images-v2-count-1"><div class="content-picture image-v2-number-1" id="image-79286"> <div class="social_icons social-buttons-on-image">
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AATW, OooahResponse by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 14 at 2016 12:46 PM2016-02-14T12:46:48-05:002016-02-14T12:46:48-05:00SPC James Dollins1301725<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I think both are pretty accomplished. Obviously some units look at not being jump qualified as a HORRIBLE injustice, but I think that's just tradition. I never had the opportunity for either one. Would've gone to both given the chance. Personally I look at them both the same to be honest.Response by SPC James Dollins made Feb 14 at 2016 12:52 PM2016-02-14T12:52:50-05:002016-02-14T12:52:50-05:00SSG Gerhard S.1301737<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Having graduated both courses, I can say that Air Assault requires much more knowledge, and physical ability than does Airborne School... On the other hand in Airborne school we get to jump out of planes and helicopters... So my vote goes to Airborne.Response by SSG Gerhard S. made Feb 14 at 2016 12:58 PM2016-02-14T12:58:12-05:002016-02-14T12:58:12-05:00LTC Private RallyPoint Member1301756<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Yes. Depends on person.Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 14 at 2016 1:11 PM2016-02-14T13:11:24-05:002016-02-14T13:11:24-05:00SFC Private RallyPoint Member1301776<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>At Campbell you have to be Air Assault qualified especially as a leader. You will do air assault operations, moving your people and equipment, just depends where your going to be stationed, if your going to an air borne unit then get air borne qualifiedResponse by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 14 at 2016 1:20 PM2016-02-14T13:20:47-05:002016-02-14T13:20:47-05:00SMSgt Thor Merich1301804<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I have Air Assault (from my Army days). But if I could do it over again, I would get both. I see a lot more Airborne wings then Air Assault on uniforms though. Just by the number of individuals who have been to Air Assault school alone, I would say that air assault is more prestigious, but I am clearly biased.Response by SMSgt Thor Merich made Feb 14 at 2016 1:35 PM2016-02-14T13:35:00-05:002016-02-14T13:35:00-05:00MAJ Private RallyPoint Member1301905<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Come on man, seriously?Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 14 at 2016 2:20 PM2016-02-14T14:20:05-05:002016-02-14T14:20:05-05:001SG David Niles1301928<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I thought air assault was more varied and diverse, air born is centered on teaching you to survive the jump. Both have their merits but to me they are not related.Response by 1SG David Niles made Feb 14 at 2016 2:31 PM2016-02-14T14:31:15-05:002016-02-14T14:31:15-05:00CW3 Private RallyPoint Member1302219<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Airborne all the wayResponse by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 14 at 2016 4:23 PM2016-02-14T16:23:37-05:002016-02-14T16:23:37-05:00LTC Private RallyPoint Member1302473<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Air assault is know to be much harder <br />Airborne cooler and more fun.Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 14 at 2016 6:43 PM2016-02-14T18:43:31-05:002016-02-14T18:43:31-05:00LTC Private RallyPoint Member1302489<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>AIRBORNE... All the way!Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 14 at 2016 6:51 PM2016-02-14T18:51:27-05:002016-02-14T18:51:27-05:00COL Jon Thompson1302805<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Because of their history, I would say that the Parachutist badge is most prestigious. For me, I went to Airborne school as a cadet and that is what I consider my first real "Army" experience. I also had a Lieutenant from my ROTC program give me blood wings in front of Iron Mike. That being said, I used Air Assault skills much more in my career and actually found that course more mentally challenging due to having to know how to prepare and sling load equipment and vehicles. I am glad that I was able to earn each badge and wear both proudly.Response by COL Jon Thompson made Feb 14 at 2016 9:36 PM2016-02-14T21:36:37-05:002016-02-14T21:36:37-05:00SSG Robert Webster1302946<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Though I have answered the question previously, I just remembered, <a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="17706" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/17706-915e-senior-automotive-maintenance-warrant-officer-3rd-abct-4th-id">CW4 Private RallyPoint Member</a> your question is actually technically incorrect - It should be Parachutist or Air Assault; which is more prestigious? That is the question. They are both Airborne because they are both forms of vertical envelopment, as is glider-borne and air-land operations. And for you doubters or non historically inclined, there have been combat air-land operations conducted.<br />I will even one up most if not everyone that has answered so far-<br /><br />The Parachutist Badge is the most prestigious of the two, since it can also be earned in combat operations without having gone to the school.Response by SSG Robert Webster made Feb 14 at 2016 11:01 PM2016-02-14T23:01:58-05:002016-02-14T23:01:58-05:00CPT Private RallyPoint Member1302952<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Double stacked. Airborne school is more prestigious, but air assault school is harder.Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 14 at 2016 11:03 PM2016-02-14T23:03:18-05:002016-02-14T23:03:18-05:00SSG Timothy McCoy1303067<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>When you have even Bawlheaded Jump wing you don't need Bullwinkle badge.<br /> AAslt badge was created in 1974 and there is only one level or one skillset.<br /> The Parachute badge was created in 1941. There are three levels of this skillset. As a paratrooper evolves their skillset and experience as a leader, that soldier can then attend Jumpmaster course and become responsible not only for the development of their soldiers on the ground but being able to put them out the door. after a min of 24 months on Jump status and making the requirements to receive their Senior Jump Badge denote by a star over the canopy of the badge, Master Parachutes badge is the next or top level of this skillset.<br /> The Master Jump wings are denoted by a wreath encircling the star from the Sr. Jump wing.<br /> If I would have to explain the difference between a Novice and Sr. Jump wings then you haven't be on status. Since this would be a Jump thaing you wouldn't understand and haven't be on statusResponse by SSG Timothy McCoy made Feb 15 at 2016 12:35 AM2016-02-15T00:35:31-05:002016-02-15T00:35:31-05:00PO2 Rob Wallace1303087<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>AirborneResponse by PO2 Rob Wallace made Feb 15 at 2016 1:08 AM2016-02-15T01:08:24-05:002016-02-15T01:08:24-05:00GySgt John O'Donnell1303682<div class="images-v2-count-1"><div class="content-picture image-v2-number-1" id="image-79456"> <div class="social_icons social-buttons-on-image">
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You just started a badge war!Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 16 at 2016 9:15 AM2016-02-16T09:15:16-05:002016-02-16T09:15:16-05:00SSG Private RallyPoint Member1305819<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I personally think it is Air Assault . mainly to stay airborne you have to be in a airborne unit once you pcs out of that unit you'll lose your status after a certain time, once you get you AA wings you never lose status and there are more AA units to train in.Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 16 at 2016 9:20 AM2016-02-16T09:20:53-05:002016-02-16T09:20:53-05:00SGM Private RallyPoint Member1308404<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>AATWResponse by SGM Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 17 at 2016 12:07 AM2016-02-17T00:07:44-05:002016-02-17T00:07:44-05:00MSG Private RallyPoint Member1309793<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I look at it this way. I don't need to go to school to do an "air assault mission", which vary greatly and not too many involve fast roping, but I did have to go to school to jump out of an Airplane. Case Closed AATW!!!Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 17 at 2016 1:44 PM2016-02-17T13:44:28-05:002016-02-17T13:44:28-05:00SSG Private RallyPoint Member1310627<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Double stacked. Airborne all the way!!! Air assault school in my opinion is harder but airborne is more prestigious. And being a Jumpmaster is the best thing I've done in the army. JUMPERS HIT IT!!!!!Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 17 at 2016 7:39 PM2016-02-17T19:39:42-05:002016-02-17T19:39:42-05:00SSG Seanc Jordan1312507<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I have both, airborne is more prestigious with a longer history, but air assault is much more difficult of a school.Response by SSG Seanc Jordan made Feb 18 at 2016 2:51 PM2016-02-18T14:51:17-05:002016-02-18T14:51:17-05:00SFC Private RallyPoint Member1315412<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>AIRBORNEResponse by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 19 at 2016 3:26 PM2016-02-19T15:26:05-05:002016-02-19T15:26:05-05:00CW4 Lloyd Strickland1318679<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Proud to have earned both. AB training great but AA training harderResponse by CW4 Lloyd Strickland made Feb 21 at 2016 10:30 AM2016-02-21T10:30:29-05:002016-02-21T10:30:29-05:00CW3 Private RallyPoint Member1323927<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>TJ, you really stirred up a hornet's nest here! You could have just asked me and I would of told you there is nothing more prestigious then to be a paratrooper in the 82nd!Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 23 at 2016 10:30 AM2016-02-23T10:30:19-05:002016-02-23T10:30:19-05:00SFC Marcus Belt1407949<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>The one the Army pays you for.Response by SFC Marcus Belt made Mar 27 at 2016 12:34 PM2016-03-27T12:34:34-04:002016-03-27T12:34:34-04:00SFC Marcus Belt1521848<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>The 82nd has NOT conducted any Airborne Assaults ISO OIR/OEF/OIF, but it has sure as hell conducted air assaults. Further, Airborne represents a STRATEGIC capability that requires our enemies to alter their defensive measures to for it. Like nuclear missiles, only more precise. <br /><br />Even the 101st is deeply (and rightly) proud of the actions of its LGOPs during the initial phases of OP Overlord.<br /><br />Also, Airborne is a basic requirement and qualification for all ARSOF.<br /><br />So: <br />Strategic value vs tactical (with that advantage being mitigated by the fact that all 3 BCTs of the 82nd can and have executed up to BN sized air assaults)<br /><br />History. Even the Air Assault Division's finest hour was when they were AIRBORNE.<br /><br />Stepping stone to other stuff.<br /><br />Airborne! All the way! H-Minus!Response by SFC Marcus Belt made May 12 at 2016 6:42 AM2016-05-12T06:42:11-04:002016-05-12T06:42:11-04:00SFC Carlos Gamino1782484<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>It is a matter of personal opinion. At the end of the day what matters is if you have completed the mission. But badges are cool.Response by SFC Carlos Gamino made Aug 5 at 2016 6:39 PM2016-08-05T18:39:10-04:002016-08-05T18:39:10-04:00SSG Private RallyPoint Member1782952<div class="images-v2-count-1"><div class="content-picture image-v2-number-1" id="image-102514"> <div class="social_icons social-buttons-on-image">
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