Am I allowed to talk to Soldiers on extra duty?

2019-06-05T14:34:44-04:00

I have 2 friends that have extra duty and I was going to help then clean since I wanted to help my battle buddies but my nco told me to stop and I was on google and it said I cannot have a casual conversation with them. is this true? I know i could look up the regs but I am too lazy

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 5 at 2019 2:39 PM

2019-06-05T14:39:58-04:00

Well, at least you admit that you are too lazy to look up the regs considering the time it took you to post this question you could have found the answer in the regs. Normally, I would have no problems assisting Soldiers with regs and answers......but in this case I'm going to not provide the info and recommend you look up the regs. Not to mention the fact that your NCO told you NOT to do it so now you are trying to circumvent your NCO over an answer you didn't like in an attempt to get an answer you do like.

Response by CSM Richard StCyr made Jun 5 at 2019 3:04 PM

2019-06-05T15:04:49-04:00

Extra Duty is punishment for some nefarious act committed by your pals. In this case there should be no "U" in team as in go find somewhere else to be while they perform their punishment.
There is no reg that covers your helping them, but there is a couple that make your NCOs telling you to cease and desist valid. Look at AR 600-20 under NCOs authority and the UCMJ .

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 5 at 2019 3:52 PM

2019-06-05T15:52:34-04:00

Just be late for formation so you can also be put on extra duty... problem solved.

Response by SSG Trevor S. made Jun 5 at 2019 3:58 PM

2019-06-05T15:58:52-04:00

Thank you for admitting your lazy streak.
I don't think there is a hard reg against it, but extra duty is a punishment. It kinda goes hand in hand with not being fun, so I would imagine working BS sessions might be frowned upon depending on the chain of command.

Response by LCDR Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 5 at 2019 4:04 PM

2019-06-05T16:04:04-04:00

Wow! At least you admit to the fact that you are too lazy to look up the regulations. Listen to your NCO or you might not have a choice about helping your friends out.

Response by SSG Brian G. made Jun 5 at 2019 4:17 PM

2019-06-05T16:17:43-04:00

They are on ED. Even if you had pitched in to help, you do register that just because ONE crap task is done, that does not mean they are done for the night right? They are on ED for a period of time, UNLESS stipulated otherwise, which means that NCO has a laundry list of crap tasks for them to do, so you are not doing them any favors.

One, the NCO gave you an order. That alone is enough. Disobey it and you can and likely would find yourself right alongside them the next night, doing crap tasks.

Response by SFC Casey O'Mally made Jun 5 at 2019 5:19 PM

2019-06-05T17:19:37-04:00

Yes... and no. Under normal circumstances, yes, you can TALK to a Soldier on ED. You know, say "Hi, how ya doin'?" in passing. Convey pertinent mission related details or obtain pertinent mission related details. Coordinate Army stuff. Normal casual words or duty-related speech is acceptable. They are not in isolation, just on duty.
BUT.... you shouldn't be having a CONVERSATION with them. They are on duty, and having a conversation with you is not part of their duties.

And this isn't NORMAL circumstances - your NCO said not to. End of story.

Response by Sgt Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 5 at 2019 5:22 PM

2019-06-05T17:22:53-04:00

You should know the answer without asking the question on RallyPoint. They are on extra duty, and now you want to go around your NCO.

Response by SP5 Peter Keane made Jun 5 at 2019 5:43 PM

2019-06-05T17:43:42-04:00

If it is on google, you better take it as gospel.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 5 at 2019 6:34 PM

2019-06-05T18:34:05-04:00

You can disregard what your NCO directed you to not do, then you may talk to them all you want as you're doing your extra duty with them. Not a preferred method, but still a work around to doing what's right.

Response by SGM Bill Frazer made Jun 5 at 2019 10:40 PM

2019-06-05T22:40:58-04:00

Jesus wept- They are on punishment for their crimes/faults. You are NOT authorized to interfere in that. You trying to get them in more trouble as well as yourself!

Response by CWO3 Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 6 at 2019 7:12 AM

2019-06-06T07:12:17-04:00

run-on sentence

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 6 at 2019 8:51 AM

2019-06-06T08:51:55-04:00

If your too lazy to look at the regs I'll bet theres a growing list of NMC vics in your unit not getting fixed. And they wont be fixed because you'll be trying to circumvent the lawful order your NCO gave you.

Response by SFC Wayne T made Jun 6 at 2019 11:15 AM

2019-06-06T11:15:37-04:00

I’d say sure go and Help. Then you too can be on extra duty to. NCO says no and you ask why. Those NCOs know nothing anymore. Gotta love the Army

Response by MSgt Michael Smith made Jun 6 at 2019 1:16 PM

2019-06-06T13:16:43-04:00

If they are fulfilling a part of their punishment and you are impeding that, then you are wrong. If I were the NCO in that situation I would order you to get out of there and leave them alone. If you went back and continued to interact with them, I would have you before your commander, and it would be you with the additional duties next week.