SSG Michael Hathaway 1085701 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I am 1 semester away from graduating with a Bachelors in cybersecurity. I have been interesting in both 17C and 25D, moving away from my current 68W MOS, but have been getting odd answers to questions by retention. I do my research and check the milper messages and check the cyber sites before I go to retention so that I am not caught by surprise. <br /><br />So, a couple of years ago I followed the advice of my retention at my previous duty station and decided to wait until I got to my current station to drop a reclass packet for 25D. I was told that I should wait until I am near my re-up window. I did this and now I am on assignment. So I went to retention and asked if I could start on my packet, one stipulation was that I need to get security clearance which I currently have none. They told me that I needed to be certified and have experience in IT and cyber and that since I was on assignment, I am ineligible to reclass plus I would need to get a poly done as part of my packet. I thought this was odd since the milper message stated different requirements. <br /><br />So I contacted someone at the Cyber Command school and was told very different. 1 – since it is an application MOS, I can drop a packet regardless if I am on assignment as HRC will drop my assignment if I get selected for school. 2 – The poly is part of the school (17C) and thus not needed for the packet. 3 – certification is helpful but not a requirement. 4 – IT experience is helpful but not a requirement. I told retention this and got no response.<br /><br />Now, I want to start the process for security clearance by getting a memo from retention to bring to my S2 shop to begin the background checks and paperwork. Retention is still stressing that I am on assignment. So now I am being told that in addition to above, I have to PCS to my next duty station and wait until I have done 2/3’s of my time there and then I can request a memo from retention there to start my security clearance and drop a 25D packet since 17C is now closed.<br /><br />Is this true? Can I get a memo from another source (like the CO or XO) for S2 and get started on this? Unless it’s OCONUS with a term of 3 years with dependents, how in the world am I going to know if I have done 2/3’s of my time at a duty station? And by that time, usually the soldier would be on assignment. I feel like I am getting stone-walled or the run-around. Any help or advice? Or am I SOL of security clearance and reclass? Am I experiencing too much difficulty in reclassing? 2015-11-03T16:44:18-05:00 SSG Michael Hathaway 1085701 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I am 1 semester away from graduating with a Bachelors in cybersecurity. I have been interesting in both 17C and 25D, moving away from my current 68W MOS, but have been getting odd answers to questions by retention. I do my research and check the milper messages and check the cyber sites before I go to retention so that I am not caught by surprise. <br /><br />So, a couple of years ago I followed the advice of my retention at my previous duty station and decided to wait until I got to my current station to drop a reclass packet for 25D. I was told that I should wait until I am near my re-up window. I did this and now I am on assignment. So I went to retention and asked if I could start on my packet, one stipulation was that I need to get security clearance which I currently have none. They told me that I needed to be certified and have experience in IT and cyber and that since I was on assignment, I am ineligible to reclass plus I would need to get a poly done as part of my packet. I thought this was odd since the milper message stated different requirements. <br /><br />So I contacted someone at the Cyber Command school and was told very different. 1 – since it is an application MOS, I can drop a packet regardless if I am on assignment as HRC will drop my assignment if I get selected for school. 2 – The poly is part of the school (17C) and thus not needed for the packet. 3 – certification is helpful but not a requirement. 4 – IT experience is helpful but not a requirement. I told retention this and got no response.<br /><br />Now, I want to start the process for security clearance by getting a memo from retention to bring to my S2 shop to begin the background checks and paperwork. Retention is still stressing that I am on assignment. So now I am being told that in addition to above, I have to PCS to my next duty station and wait until I have done 2/3’s of my time there and then I can request a memo from retention there to start my security clearance and drop a 25D packet since 17C is now closed.<br /><br />Is this true? Can I get a memo from another source (like the CO or XO) for S2 and get started on this? Unless it’s OCONUS with a term of 3 years with dependents, how in the world am I going to know if I have done 2/3’s of my time at a duty station? And by that time, usually the soldier would be on assignment. I feel like I am getting stone-walled or the run-around. Any help or advice? Or am I SOL of security clearance and reclass? Am I experiencing too much difficulty in reclassing? 2015-11-03T16:44:18-05:00 2015-11-03T16:44:18-05:00 SSG Private RallyPoint Member 1085726 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Have you tired talking to MSG Washington at Signal Towers? Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 3 at 2015 4:51 PM 2015-11-03T16:51:28-05:00 2015-11-03T16:51:28-05:00 SSG Private RallyPoint Member 1085769 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Contact MSG Washington here at Fort Gordon. He should be easy enough to look up in global or you can look on most Fort Gordon web pages. He is the authority for packet submission and approval. Work with him closely to sort out exactly what you need to do. Also keep in close contact with your current branch manager at HRC. You may need to do some creative coordinating later with your assignments. Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 3 at 2015 5:07 PM 2015-11-03T17:07:35-05:00 2015-11-03T17:07:35-05:00 SSG Ed Mikus 1086779 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>They cannot stop you from applying contact master sergeant Washington as they said there&#39;s a way around everything the unit provides Response by SSG Ed Mikus made Nov 4 at 2015 6:17 AM 2015-11-04T06:17:08-05:00 2015-11-04T06:17:08-05:00 SSG Private RallyPoint Member 2567897 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Was this retention at 15th EN ? Lol Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made May 14 at 2017 5:42 AM 2017-05-14T05:42:37-04:00 2017-05-14T05:42:37-04:00 2015-11-03T16:44:18-05:00