Another uniform change for Warrant Officers.

CW4 Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 23 Jul 2015 16:32:27 -0400

This has been debated to for some time now but now we have an answer. Anybody need a Company grade service cap?

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 23 at 2015 4:34 PM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 23 Jul 2015 16:34:45 -0400

So many budgetary, training, and other major issues to focus on..........nahhhhh, lets focus on changes of uniform items and designs.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 23 at 2015 4:34 PM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 23 Jul 2015 16:34:49 -0400

Another Change, or just updated in the regulation?

Response by CW4 Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 23 at 2015 4:44 PM

CW4 Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 23 Jul 2015 16:44:03 -0400

I'm good with this. I've been meaning to buy one, now I know.

Response by CW4 Guy Butler made Jul 23 at 2015 5:26 PM

CW4 Guy Butler — Thu, 23 Jul 2015 17:26:16 -0400

Joy.

Response by CW5 Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 23 at 2015 5:46 PM

CW5 Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 23 Jul 2015 17:46:02 -0400

This is a joke, right? I just checked the July 2015 670-1 and didn't see any references to the change.

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 23 at 2015 6:22 PM

CW3 Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 23 Jul 2015 18:22:31 -0400

I'm hoping soon to have to ask the same question: "Anyone need a Company Grade service cap?"

Response by CW4 Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 24 at 2015 9:20 AM

CW4 Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 24 Jul 2015 09:20:39 -0400

I wonder if it can be added to our current company grade hat? Worth a try...

Response by CW3 Kevin Storm made Jul 24 at 2015 3:05 PM

CW3 Kevin Storm — Fri, 24 Jul 2015 15:05:51 -0400

Your AD correct? I am not reading this in DA Pam 670-1. Where is the hard print on this?

Response by CW5 Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 1 at 2015 8:10 AM

CW5 Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 01 Aug 2015 08:10:59 -0400

No disrespect intended, but it surprises me that 3's are included.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 4 at 2015 1:36 AM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 04 Sep 2015 01:36:49 -0400

That will be interesting-Now you will see company grade officers initiating salutes to CW3-CW5 because normally would notice the scrambled eggs before you see the rank! As for hats and caps in genera,l I wish the Army had a uniform option with a garrison cap, much prefer over the beret or the service cap! I can understand why the Army is the only service that typically wears the combat uniform in public and office environments!

That brings me to another interesting thought, If senior warrants get field grade status, why not get roll them into becoming commissioned officers as what they did with Army Physician Assts. Pay is very close to O1 to O5 anyway. They could still keep the specialized career path. Roughly similar in concept to the Navy's Limited Duty Officer program (although they still have Warrants as well) Warrants are considered commissioned officers after W1 anyway. I know that the Warrant Officer corps is a long and proud tradition; however, since they are considered commissioned, are paid as commissioned officers, now get field grade status, lets make them commissioned. Just some interesting discussion material!

Response by CW2 Michael Mullikin made Dec 10 at 2015 6:33 PM

CW2 Michael Mullikin — Thu, 10 Dec 2015 18:33:52 -0500

THAT looks SILLY! Something a bandsman in the Rose Bowl parade might wear. I KNOW! How about branch colored pom-poms on the top of the cover so you can be recognized at a distance and from above! And, of course, the pom-poms for Field Grade and Senior Field Grade Warrant Officers would have to be in silver or gold!

Am I the only one who thinks something ia very wrong here (hmmm, wouldn't be the first time I've been alone)?

Has anyone seen the new Air Force class-A's? Modeled somewhat after the Marine dress uniform, they present a serious, dignified look.

Oh, by the way, does anyone here remember what warrant officers were supposed to be and do? A hint: it has nothing to do with being cost-effective, not to say cheap, lieutenants.

Response by CW3 Luther Deese made Feb 23 at 2016 6:17 PM

CW3 Luther Deese — Tue, 23 Feb 2016 18:17:28 -0500

When I was in a warrant was the most knowledgeable and capable soldier in his field or set of fields of expertise. And, as far as I'm concerned, that's the way it way it always should be. The soldier who can teach and mentor troops, who can ensure continuity of quality, and who can personally step in when first line troops are incapacitated. That's why I wanted to become a warrant and that's what being a warrant officer is all about!

Response by CW4 Timothy O'Malley made May 29 at 2016 9:50 PM

CW4 Timothy O'Malley — Sun, 29 May 2016 21:50:48 -0400

Ok.......what about the Warrant Officer insignia (squashed bug). Does it still going on the company/field/senior field grade warrant service cap

Response by SGT Jerrold Pesz made May 29 at 2016 11:10 PM

SGT Jerrold Pesz — Sun, 29 May 2016 23:10:14 -0400

I hope that I don't piss anyone off but that looks like something that an African dictator would wear.

Response by CW2 Michael Mullikin made Jun 3 at 2016 12:20 AM

CW2 Michael Mullikin — Fri, 03 Jun 2016 00:20:58 -0400

Hmmm, this gives me an idea!I CW3-CW5 field grade and senior field grade warrant officers it seems obvious that WO1 and CW2 warrant officers must be company grade. Ok (here it comes) to maintain consistency with the other officer ranks it only makes sense to have flag grade warrant officers (CW6–CW10). It strikes me as unfair that the "traditional" commissioned officers have a career path from O1 through O10, but not anyone else. I realize that only aviators will ever make it to flag rank, but every important idea involves trade-offs. Also, in keeping with enlisted rank structure, I think its way past time that we had a grand exalted supreme flag grad warrant at DA and possibly with a seat with the JCS.

As I'm sure you know, traditionally flag officers are allowed to design their uniforms. I'm curious to see what our first transgendered CW6 comes up with.

All of this reminds me of a sign I used to have hanging on the wall behind my desk: "I used to be disgusted, now I'm merely amused."

Response by CW4 Robert Augur made Aug 12 at 2017 10:09 PM

CW4 Robert Augur — Sat, 12 Aug 2017 22:09:37 -0400

Guess I'm just to old. Nothing made me prouder than being a Warrant Officer. Period! Brown Shoulder Boards, Silver Buttons, and the distinctive insignia of a Warrant Officer created in 1921. A true specialist and professional. Getting commissioned was the first insult and being told I had to wear aviation branch insignia and color the second (which I did not do). We did not salute each other either. Do not get me wrong, my father flew B-24's, B-17's and B-29's during the second world war and gave me the aviation branch insignia he wore when when he swore me in as a WO1. Great honor but not my branch.
Sorry guys, your new hat does not impress me.

Response by CW5 Jack Gaudet made Jul 25 at 2018 12:31 AM

CW5 Jack Gaudet — Wed, 25 Jul 2018 00:31:01 -0400

We are commissioned for legal purposes which gives us UCMJ authority. Warrant Officers and Commissioned officers have different roles and no we should not be integrated to just commissioned.

Response by CPT Alfred Smiley made Apr 13 at 2020 1:30 PM

CPT Alfred Smiley — Mon, 13 Apr 2020 13:30:21 -0400

So W-3s are now Field Grade Officers. How long before they change their rank insignia to a gold oak leaf with a little black dot in the center?