Any advice concerning Green to Gold, specifically for the four year scholarship?

2018-02-24T10:34:42-05:00

I’m extremely interested in furthering my career in the military. I also plan to start my path towards Officer when I’m next Conus. Almost two years into my six year contract which makes me eligible for the Green to Gold AD option. Any advice concerning the program, specifically for the four year scholarship? I currently have no college credit and am hoping to get accepted, how likely is that?

Response by SPC Margaret Higgins made Feb 24 at 2018 10:37 AM

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SPC Cameron Hale: Your goal is very admirable. My guess is that you will need college credits to get accepted into the four year scholarship program.

Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Feb 24 at 2018 12:09 PM

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OK, I follow, lemme help you with a few things, so far as I can, though if you could elaborate on some aspects, it'd help all of us try to help you, believe me, I've given this speech on here on numerous occasions, honest. First, give a more detailed biographical sketch, take the time on a word processor, type it out, paste it in Jere, with hobbies, interests, ambitions, motivations, high school GPA, if you recall it, also, if you can go into what I'm about to ask also, alp the tech schools you've gone through, as well as all the enlisted training, and also any AP stuff you did in high school. I'm gonna suggest some stuff if onoy to make you aware it exists, obviously, I dont kmow your age, I'm supposing late teens to early to mid 20s, also, you need to consider all svcs, not solely Army, for numerous reasons, I realize you'd said Green to Gold, I was to have gone Army under ROTC, I went USAF OTS instead, I knew many at the OTS who'd been enlisted in other svcs, one guy was even former Navy enlisted wearing dolphins on his USAF shirt, so I've known of many instances where cross service acceptance is doable, plus, it's not so much a matter of what you want, as who wants you. What major do you want? What field, ultimately? If Army, what branch or branches? Would you think about other svcs? If so, which others might you tend to favor? That sort of thing, let !e send this, then I'll send more, I think you'll perceive why, I think you'll find it useful, honest, OK?

Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Feb 24 at 2018 12:18 PM

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_College_of_the_Air_Force

Call them, I've always understood all service enlisted can use them for an associates, believe me, I'm sure they've got staff who've evals Army enlisted wanting to use them for their associates, even though they're a USAF school, honest. Go to personnel by you, get a transcript of every Army course you've done. In residence, correspondence, at your installation all of it, send it to CCAF, and let them eval you, OK? I think you might actually be pleasantly surprised, honest....

Community College of the Air Force - Wikipedia

The Community College of the Air Force (CCAF) is a federal program offered by the United States Air Force which grants two-year Associate of Applied Science (AAS) degrees in association with Air University.

Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Feb 24 at 2018 12:20 PM

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http://www.excelsior.edu

This used to be part ofmNY State Educ Dept, the USNY (not SUNY) Regents External/College Degree (RED/RCD) program, itmorivatized a few years ago, theynhabe a tool free, they've done military for a long, long time, I got a 2nd bach in math using GRE subject tests through them back then, a friend took his bach math from them and went Navy OCS, they're real, I assure you...

www.excelsior.edu

Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Feb 24 at 2018 12:24 PM

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http://www.uopeople.edu

This is not a panacea, I'm unsure if the svcs, VA, or industry accepts the!, however, they've gotten a lot of recognition, they charge no tuition, though they charge admin and exam fees, prorated by per capita income for a given country, they have assoc/bach in comp sci (CS), bus admin, and health sci, as well as an MBA, they are NOT regionally accredited, however, they ARE accredited, I did see that, by DETC, formerly NHSC, I'll give you the DETC site also, remember, they are jot a panacea, however, they did get Vatican endorsement recently they Kay add more programs, they now take transfer credit, also, however, ASK before you'd do their programs, I'm NOT sure the svcs, VA, or industry accept them yet....

University of the People Accredited Online American University | University of the People

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Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Feb 24 at 2018 12:25 PM

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http://www.detc.org

This is the group that accredits them....

The official website of the Distance Education Accrediting Commission (DEAC) | Distance Education...

Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Feb 24 at 2018 12:29 PM

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distance_Education_Accrediting_Commission

Read this, they accredit UoPeople, I'd seen, there should be a link to their site, there's also a discuss military aspects I'd seen on the page...

Distance Education Accrediting Commission - Wikipedia

The Distance Education Accrediting Commission (DEAC), formerly known as the National Home Study Council and then as the Distance Education and Training Council, is a non-profit national educational accreditation agency in the United States specializing in the accreditation of (51 percent or more)[1] distance education programs of study and institutions.

Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Feb 24 at 2018 12:31 PM

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https://www.charteroak.edu/

Look at this also....

Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Feb 24 at 2018 12:32 PM

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https://www.tesu.edu/index.cfm

And this. ..

College Degrees for Adults at Thomas Edison State University

Thomas Edison State University provides opportunities for adults to earn a college degree. Explore our programs, online courses and flexible transfer credit policies today.

Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Feb 24 at 2018 12:33 PM

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http://www.acenet.edu/news-room/Pages/Military-Guide-Online.aspx

You'll want this.

Military-Guide-Online.aspx

Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Feb 24 at 2018 12:35 PM

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https://www.military.com/education/timesaving-programs/defense-activity-for-non-traditional-education-support-dantes.html

And this....

Defense Activity for Non-Traditional Education Support (DANTES)

Learn more about the Defense Activity for Non-Traditional Education Support (DANTES).

Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Feb 24 at 2018 12:37 PM

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Military_Academy_Preparatory_School

This might interest you...

United States Military Academy Preparatory School - Wikipedia

The United States Military Academy Preparatory School (USMAPS), sometimes referred to as West Point Prep, is a preparatory school for the United States Military Academy (USMA). Located in West Point, New York, its official mission is "to provide academic, military and physical instruction in a moral-ethical military environment to prepare and motivate candidates for success at the United States Military Academy."[1]

Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Feb 24 at 2018 12:39 PM

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naval_Academy_Preparatory_School

Youre also possibly eligible for this...

Naval Academy Preparatory School - Wikipedia

The Naval Academy Preparatory School or NAPS is the preparatory school for the United States Naval Academy. NAPS is located on Naval Station Newport, Rhode Island. The mission of the Naval Academy Preparatory School is "To enhance Midshipman Candidates' moral, mental, and physical foundations to prepare them for success at the United States Naval Academy".[1]

Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Feb 24 at 2018 12:40 PM

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Air_Force_Academy_Preparatory_School

Same here...

United States Air Force Academy Preparatory School - Wikipedia

The U.S. Air Force Academy Preparatory School—usually referred to as "the Prep School" or "The P School"—was established in May 1961. The school's founder and first commander was Colonel Lee Charles Black. It is located on the campus of the United States Air Force Academy near the Community Center. The Prep School's mission is to prepare, motivate, and evaluate for admission to and success at the Air Force Academy. Students at the prep school...

Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Feb 24 at 2018 12:45 PM

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https://www.thebalance.com/becoming-an-army-helicopter-pilot-3345045

If youre at all inclined this way, Army WOCS for helicopters only needs high school, no college, the son of the high school best friend is f my MIMD their in paw did it as enlisted, no bachelors, or associates, though associates hemmightve had, immunsure, he did yrs in Army helicopters, got his bachelors in aeronautics through Embryo Riddle Univ, then interservice physician USCG, as either direct commission, or went went to an OIS, immfairly suremhemwas waivedmin full OCS, I think....

What You Should Know About Becoming An Army Helicopter Pilot

Flying aircraft is a coveted career in the United States armed services, and the process to become a military pilot is a competitive one.

Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Feb 24 at 2018 12:47 PM

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I'll pet you absorb all that, just give more here, in details, and I'll try to suggest more, I'd be eager to know your thoughts, hope was of some use and/or interest....

Response by Capt Daniel Goodman made Feb 24 at 2018 12:48 PM

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Sorry N rmtypos, clumsy tablet, I'll let you absorb all that, my vision isn't great also, recent surgery. I'm afraid....

Response by LTC Jason Mackay made Feb 24 at 2018 4:43 PM

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SPC Cameron Hale You should tag your post with Army ROTC so the Army ROTC recruiting and ops people that on here can advise you on current policy and program dynamics.

If it were not possible, there would not be a program. So obviously it's doable. It s really up to you. Will you bring it? That's all it is.

There are a ton of discussions on RP on this identical topic. Recommend using them and refine your questions. There are no less than six links at the bottom of this particular thread involving Green to Gold.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 1 at 2018 9:06 PM

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I commission this May from Green to Gold ADO. I did most of my college through UMUC (some deployed, some in Germany, some CONUS - so don't let where you are limit your pursuit) and completed my first degree early. I actually got interested in the idea while I was at Fort Bliss when a new LT came off Green to Gold 4 year scholarship. He said the biggest struggle for him was that his wife had to get a full time job and support the family because he was in school full time for four years. So, since I had two degrees almost completed, I decided to opt for the Active Duty Option so that I continued to get paid by the Army and I got a slight break from service to re-energize.

If I were you, I would enroll and get some core credits knocked out. Things that you know you will have to take - like core sciences, math, and English. The ADO is incredible, I get paid my NCO pay, the Army PCS'd me to my college of choice, I get my BAH for my family, and I get all the same benefits as though I were still in the Army. The only kicker is I have to pay for my own classes - which my Post 9/11 GI Bill takes care of. The program asks me to do a little more than typical cadets because I am still an NCO in the Army, so I do recruiting over breaks. Outside of that, my duty day is PT three days a week (I PT outside of that - but Cadet TRADOC states they can only require three days of PT a week for the amount of credit hours offered for the Military Science course), I go in on Monday from 1500-1800 and Thursday we have Labs from 1400-1700. I have my classes currently set up to where I don't do anything on Friday and ROTC is my only Monday class so I basically get a three day every week with Monday being a half day. There is another G2G Cadet here who is a two year scholarship and he constantly states that he wished he would have gone ADO route because he has to have a job outside of ROTC to support his family.

Good luck. If you want to do it, it is a great program. But the packet process is very stressful, talking with one of the admins from Fort Knox, they said that the one thing that keeps most people from getting it is that they get discouraged and do not complete the packet because it is a pretty thorough packet.