SGT(P) Private RallyPoint Member4594248<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>My understanding of a bar is that it is not punitive in nature and more so a tool used to push a soldier to improve. I've read so many contradictory things and am a tad confused.Anyone have any insight on 'bar to reenlistment' due to PME requirements, for National Guard?2019-04-30T22:04:49-04:00SGT(P) Private RallyPoint Member4594248<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>My understanding of a bar is that it is not punitive in nature and more so a tool used to push a soldier to improve. I've read so many contradictory things and am a tad confused.Anyone have any insight on 'bar to reenlistment' due to PME requirements, for National Guard?2019-04-30T22:04:49-04:002019-04-30T22:04:49-04:00SSG Private RallyPoint Member4594258<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>It’s not a “bar to reenlistment,” but actually a bar to continued service. If you choose to try to get a school date, you have a year to complete it, or you’ll be discharged. If you choose reduction, it’s complete.Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 30 at 2019 10:11 PM2019-04-30T22:11:28-04:002019-04-30T22:11:28-04:00SFC Private RallyPoint Member4594371<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I think you're referring to the 8K HQDA Directed Bar for failure to complete SSD.<br />You can find it on the ALARACT message that announced the change from CLI to MLI last year. There's a copy of it on the HRC Enlisted Promotions page ALARACT 114-2017<br />Unless you're talking about something else, the question was kind of vague. Either way, the answer will still be on HRC Enlisted Promotions pageResponse by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made May 1 at 2019 12:04 AM2019-05-01T00:04:24-04:002019-05-01T00:04:24-04:00SFC Private RallyPoint Member4595244<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I'd try to find a career counselor and get into AR 601-280. You're right about the bar though, it's used to rehabilitate a Soldier.Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made May 1 at 2019 10:10 AM2019-05-01T10:10:58-04:002019-05-01T10:10:58-04:00SSG Private RallyPoint Member5026550<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>From what I have seen with the Kansas Army National Guard, if you take the bar to reenlist, your days in are numbered especially if you have 20 or more years.Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 15 at 2019 4:33 PM2019-09-15T16:33:01-04:002019-09-15T16:33:01-04:002019-04-30T22:04:49-04:00