Anyone have experience with the MAR2 process?

2020-09-11T14:38:01-04:00

Currently in the MAR2 process.
Just completed BLC. Was wondering if I am still able to get promoted this following month. Was told the job options that were available with my limitations.
-Am I able to get promoted during this process?
-Will I be able to get promoted to E5 if my new MOS is not given yet?
-If they tell me that I’m awarded a new MOS before the list comes out, will I be making the list with 13B or wait for the following month with that new MOS?
-The career counselor told me the possible jobs I can get today, was told he will send it up today. How long until I get a answer with the decision of my new MOS?
-Also, if they give me a MOS that I do not want, will I be able to deny re-enlisting? I only have 13 months left. What would happen if I deny that job option?

Tried to talk to my career counselor and he was not very clear.

Response by LTC John Mohor made Sep 11 at 2020 2:46 PM

2020-09-11T14:46:43-04:00

SPC Stevenson Coloma along with your counselor talk with some of your Chain of concern NCOs. Once you understand How promotions Work under a unit’s paragraph and line numbers you’ll understand a whole lot better!

Response by SSG(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 11 at 2020 3:53 PM

2020-09-11T15:53:30-04:00

According to AR 600-8-19, Ch. 1-21
"i. Soldiers pending medical retention decision or medical separation will not be removed from a promotion list until promoted or until after being determined fit for duty and afforded 180 days to retain promotion eligibility, provided they are otherwise qualified and eligible with this regulation."

Ch. 1-33 goes on to say:
"d. Mandatory reclassification-Soldier not at fault. Soldiers reclassified based on a permanent medical limitation, MOS deleted from the force structure, or DA directed will be processed as follows:
(1) Loss of qualification-permanent medical limitation (MOS Administrative Retention Review). Soldiers reclassified based on a permanent medical limitation will be awarded a new PMOS with ASI 4A as directed by HRC, GOCOM, MSC, DRU (for USAR TPU Soldiers) or AG/DARNG (for ARNG Soldiers). The ASI will be withdrawn when training is com-plete.
(a) Soldiers will be promoted conditionally and will have 1 year to complete the required training for their new PMOS (24 months for ARNG). The following statement will be added to the special instructions of the promotion instrument: “Soldier has not met the PMOS training requirement and is promoted conditionally. If the Soldier does not attend and successfully complete formal MOS training within 12 months from the effective date of this promotion, the Soldier will be administratively reduced and will be required to re-compete to regain promotable status. De facto status will not be granted.”
(b) HRC, GOCOM, MSC, DRU (for USAR TPU Soldiers) or AG/DARNG (for ARNG Soldiers) will take action to verify that Soldiers that are promoted conditionally have completed the required training in the new PMOS within 1 year (24 months for ARNG Soldiers). If the Soldier does not attend or successfully complete the required PMOS training as scheduled, the Soldier will be administratively reduced and must be reconsidered to become promotable. HRC, GOCOM, MSC, DRU (for USAR TPU Soldiers) or AG/DARNG (for ARNG Soldiers) will take action to administratively reduce the Soldier.
(c) Soldiers conditionally promoted that are subsequently referred into the DES and found unfit prior to completion of formal MOS training will be allowed to keep the conditional promotion.
(d) Exceptions to policy will be considered by the DCS, G–1 (DAPE–MPE–PD) for Title 10 and CNGB for Title 32 Soldiers."

This may not apply to your situation, as I nor anyone else not directly involved with your case knows the details. This is a general idea of what you can expect. Good Luck.

Response by SGM Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 11 at 2020 5:56 PM

2020-09-11T17:56:10-04:00

It is a 28 day process. See your career counselor, he will counsel you on a 4856. Aftern you need to write a memo, in which you express your desire outcome. Your Career Counselor will give you a sample memo to follow. Also you will need a memo from your company commander recommending a course of action and one from your battalion commander as well. After that all these documents need to go to your unit Career Counselor, he will email the to Retention and Fort Knox and within 14 days you will have an answer. I have seen experienced Career Counselors doing it in less than 2 weeks. Good luck!

Response by SGM Bill Frazer made Sep 11 at 2020 6:13 PM

2020-09-11T18:13:22-04:00

1. I doubt anyone knows- 2. Promotions are controlled by your branch and the MTOE for that MOS- They normally will not promote you till you are in your new MOS and there is an available slot for you.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 11 at 2020 6:28 PM

2020-09-11T18:28:20-04:00

SGM Private RallyPoint Member gave a good run down of the process. Once HRC makes its decision you will immediately have a new MOS. So if your training is 88M, the next day your ERB will say you are now an 88M1O4A. The ASI 4A means not qualified in MOS- no fault of Soldier. With ASI 4A you can still get promoted. If you go to your reclass school and fail, you will receive ASI 4B and will not be able to promote. Also, if you promote as an ASI 4A your promotion is conditional upon you graduating your new training.

If you don’t like the training option you can choose to decline the reenlistment requirement that will most likely be attached one of two things will happen. First one is that HRC will change your MOS to 09U and your Career Counselor will change your ETS date to 270 days later and you will honorably ETS as not qualified in any MOS. Second possibility is that HRC says screw you’re feelings and you’re going to training. If that happens they will usually send you back to your original location.