Anyone have info on promotions as a TPU soldier on ADOS orders?

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 08 Feb 2016 20:59:36 -0500

I have a soldier w/issues. The only reg. I have found is dated 1 JUL 09.

Soldier is on PPRL with his home unit (falls under 81st RSC). He is on ADOS orders at Fort Wainwright, AK as a military pay tech. Orders are a minimum of 365 days. He is getting conflicting information as to why he has not been promoted when others have, and how/what to do to get promoted.

The 9th (fort wainwright region) has openings in his MOS. He requested to transfer PPRL (per info off HRC, image attached), but it seems his unit is unclear of how to do this/unaware of this option. I am trying seeking the process (PowerPoint, memo, forms, etc) to be able to help them help him.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 8 at 2016 9:08 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 08 Feb 2016 21:08:03 -0500

What is TPU?

Response by SSG Carlos Madden made Feb 8 at 2016 9:26 PM

SSG Carlos Madden — Mon, 08 Feb 2016 21:26:31 -0500

Can you tell us a little more about the problem and desired outcome?

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 8 at 2016 9:56 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 08 Feb 2016 21:56:26 -0500

SSG Private RallyPoint Member Talk to SFC Walcott with the 1984th in Fort Richardson. I have worked with her in the past and she would be able to point you in the right direction. She is awesome in being able to resolve these type issues.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 8 at 2016 10:09 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 08 Feb 2016 22:09:37 -0500

They can get promoted, sometimes the issue is they get promoted to a new unit

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 8 at 2016 11:13 PM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 08 Feb 2016 23:13:13 -0500

I would talk directly to the other unit's admin on this. This situation is new to me so ill follow the discussion to learn. Hope you get the answer you need SGT.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 9 at 2016 2:01 AM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 09 Feb 2016 02:01:24 -0500

If he is in a valid position, no problem. If he is mobilized in a position, without a valid slot then I understand why.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 9 at 2016 7:55 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 09 Feb 2016 07:55:40 -0500

i thought that promotions at that point we still be done thru the unit that the individual came from. I was also under impresion that if you on ados , they dont wannna promote much since youre makin active duty pay?

Response by CSM Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 9 at 2016 8:44 AM

CSM Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 09 Feb 2016 08:44:32 -0500

He should have no issue being promoted. I went from E-5 to E-8 while on a combination of back to back MOB/COADOS orders. I believe that it is as simple as promoting the Soldier as any other Soldier on the PPRL. The Soldier doesn't necessarily need a vacant Paragraph and line number to fill to be promoted while I'm ADOS orders. Upon REFRAD the Soldier will have one year to find a vacant position to be slotted into in order to retain the promotion. The PPG excerpt may be the most recent guidance. The PPG is a living document that is basically the most current guidance due to the contact revision and updates to it.

Response by SFC Gwendolyn was Gregory L. made Feb 9 at 2016 5:23 PM

SFC Gwendolyn was Gregory L. — Tue, 09 Feb 2016 17:23:14 -0500

If there is no reserve Liaison I recommend you call the closest RSC and ask if you have a copy of LIST with the soldiers name on it you can contact the HOME RSC and Start squealing. The IG is a possibility if the RSC give you the run around. You only have 2 yrs from the list to get on or you start having problems. I just made the E7 list as an ADOS soldier I have to rattle a few cages but it will work as long as the soldier is eligible still No Flags or PT scores or unqualified in his MOS.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 10 at 2016 9:44 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 10 Feb 2016 09:44:35 -0500

SGT Amy Collins, I was recently promoted, Aug of last year, while in ADOS. The orders came from my home unit and my promotion ceremony was done where I was stationed at the time. When my orders ended, I reported to my new unit. I did everything through my home unit though. I was helped, as far as putting my packet together, by both S1 shops but I was able to promote with no issues.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 10 at 2016 3:35 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 10 Feb 2016 15:35:20 -0500

I would contact your local ARCD unit, they are the HRC of Army Reserve if you will and have AGR soldiers that will be able to help you navigate this.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 10 at 2016 4:59 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 10 Feb 2016 16:59:00 -0500

Reservists whether on ADOS MOB or COTTAD orders fall under reserve promotion requirements to have orders cut there must be a valid paragraph and line number for the orders to be cut normally they would be from the soldier's unit, however in mob or deployment situations in the heavy years promotions were not denied to deployed soldiers due to the op tempo. There were arrangements made between commands to waive the position fulfillment requirements. Then the issue became a long range plan than a short range or immediate plan. If the soldier is on the list and there is a position available in the 81st you should be able to et him/her promoted ASAP. But if the par/line number is in another command they will need to sign the letter that they agree to remain and serve in that position for 1 year and that they will sign the waiver that they are voluntarily travelling outside the 50 mile radius. Otherwise they will no longer be able to retain the position

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 10 at 2016 7:53 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 10 Feb 2016 19:53:46 -0500

As far as I understand, the 81st has not posted a new slating report recently, but the soldier should still be promoted as if he/she were drilling at their home unit. It may be easier to wait a little longer. I have a soldier (under the 81st), who has been on the PPRL for over 6 months now. I would double check the PPRL to make sure the soldier is on it, and then ask the soldiers unit to inquire about the slating report.

Response by 1SG Michael Hargis made Feb 23 at 2016 9:18 PM

1SG Michael Hargis — Tue, 23 Feb 2016 21:18:46 -0500

If all else fails call HRC and get a direct opine on this particular Soldier. Here's and a few things I've learned since becoming a 1SG with Soldiers mobbed.

1. The mileage can hurt him, i.e., he put 50 miles and there's no slots in that mileage radius, then he can't be promoted. If you know there's slots in that radius there may be a UMR problem.
2. APFT expired in the system, check CSMM.
3. An old flag hasn't been removed, check CSMM.

Good Luck
Hellion 7

Response by SGT Elwais Gregorio made Apr 16 at 2016 12:07 PM

SGT Elwais Gregorio — Sat, 16 Apr 2016 12:07:17 -0400

Does the SM have enough point and not flagged in any way? Somtimes, the unit MTOE is the only reason for SMs promotion to be delayed