Posted on Apr 30, 2018
SGT Robert Cupp
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If you deployed to a combat zone as a marine but then later switched to the army, are you able to wear your marine division patch as a combat patch or do you have to be attached to them during your time in the army to wear it?
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1SG Dennis Hicks
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The short answer is NO, for you to wear a MARINE patch you had to be in the Army during the authorized period with a memo stating that in your records. In addition coming from the Marine Corp to the Army with a CAR COMBAT ACTION RIBBON does not mean you can wear a CIB as some dillwad started that rumor years ago. I know this will also cause heart burn for the BRO Soldiers but the color version of the Big Red One is UNAUTHORIZED and has been addressed by the Uniform board years ago yet it still is being done. Below is the ALARACT message that came out about this many years ago.
SUBJECT: ALARACT 140/2007
TEXT:
UNCLASSIFIED//
THIS MESSAGE HAS BEEN SENT BY THE PENTAGON TELECOMMUNICATIONS CENTER ON BEHALF OF: DA WASHINGTON DC//DAPE-HRI//
SUBJECT: AR 670-1, 3 FEB 05, WEAR AND APPEARANCE OF ARMY UNIFORMS AND INSIGNIA
1. THIS MESSAGE SERVES AS IMPLEMENTING INSTRUCTIONS FOR CHANGES TO THE WEAR POLICY OUTLINED IN AR 670-1 AND MESSAGES OUTLINING THE WEAR POLICY FOR THE ARMY COMBAT UNIFORM (ACU).

8. NON-SUBDUED SSI (S) ARE NOT AUTHORIZED TO BE WORN ON UTILITY UNIFORMS AS A SSI OR SSI-FWTS. LEADERS WILL ENSURE SOLDIERS COMPLY IMMEDIATELY. THERE ARE NO EXCEPTIONS TO POLICY CURRENTLY APPROVED AUTHORIZING WEAR OF ANY NON-SUBDUED SSI ON UTILITY UNIFORMS.


24. POC FOR UNIFORM POLICY IS SGM K. EASLEY, DSN 225-5287; COMM. [login to see] . E-MAIL IS [login to see] .MIL.
25. THIS MESSAGE HAS BEEN APPROVED BY THE DCS, G-1.
26. THIS AUTHORITY IS EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY.
27. EXPIRATION. THIS MESSAGE WILL EXPIRE UPON NEXT PUBLICATION OF AR 670-1.

AR670-1 (KEY WORD SOLDIERS) not MARINES
(14) Operation Iraqi Freedom (OIF): between 19 March 2003 to 31 August 2010, for Soldiers assigned to units
participating in OIF. Soldiers must have been deployed in the CENTCOM area of operations, or participated in OIF
while deployed in Turkey, Israel, or on Aegis cruisers. Soldiers who served with the 1st Marine Division between 19
March 2003 and 21 April 2003 during combat operations in support of OIF are authorized to wear the 1st Marine
Division SSI as their SSI–FWTS. Soldiers who were deployed in the area of operations on training exercises or in
support of operations other than OIF not authorized the SSI-FWTS, unless those exercises or operations became
combat or support missions to OIF.
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1SG Bill Farmerie
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Dennis, you are 100% correct. Not all 1st ID are wearing the non subdued patch though. I asked the gate guard (MP) yesterday when they are going to conform with the reg, and he stated when his higher ups quit telling them to wear them. Dennis, weren't you part of Squad leader .com which became NCO net
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1SG Dennis Hicks
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1SG Bill Farmerie - Top I was down at the Command Sergeant Majors 1 week course down at Leavenworth and I told a a CSM he was wearing an UN-authorized BRO patch and he went full CSM on me :) Yes I was on Squad leader.com before it went away, that was a long time ago and I was less of an A-hole back then :)
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1SG Bill Farmerie
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1SG Dennis Hicks - I thought I remembered you
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1SG Dennis Hicks
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1SG Bill Farmerie - as a world class asshole its hard to forget me :) your name looked familiar as well .
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SGT Frank G
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Yes! We Currahees 03-04 are authorized to wear the patch. A few of us also have Navy Commendation awards.
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SGT Frank is correct. I was a MP directly attacked to the 1st Mar Div for major combat in OIF I. My SSI - FWTS or now what is a CSIB was that of the 1st Marine Division. My unit also received the Navy Presidential Unit Citation for "extraordinary heroism" in combat.
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I'm curious about this myself. I remember some soldiers had 1st Marine "Guadalcanal" patches they got from being assigned to USMC units during the Iraq invasion so I'd always assumed this was authorized.
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I'm one of those. Although we weren't assigned, we hauled their gas
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