Posted on Jun 12, 2016
Are National Guardsmen allowed to qualify with their personal M-4, so that I don't have people changing my sights?
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Not even gonna touch this one...leaving it right there...stepping back...Semper Fi.
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CPL Patrick Brewbaker
1stSgt (Join to see) - Ha!! I was in the field snuck some Canadian whiskey in my sea bag. Play pink Floyd in the wilderness of camp Grayling. Marine attitude it the Guard, and getting caught by the BTN CSM. PRICELESS!
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SGT Jerry Couch
Umm I am with the upper staff nope stepping back from this one but keep in mind NCOs do not abuse your beer over ingnorance.
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You've gotten some good answers here so I'm not going to address that anymore. Here is what I'm going to address specifically to the second part of your question.
PMI 101.
Q. What is the one of the very first things you are going to do prior to start zeroing?
A. You will set your (or any weapon for that matter that you will be shooting) to Battle Sight Zero.
Now what USED to happen(haven't seen it in a very long time). Is once you are zero'd you would write your zero i.e.: Up 5 Left 2 on a sticky label and it would go in the hollow of your handgrip. So next time you drew your assigned weapon all you had to do was go back to Battle Sight Zero and adjust to what you shot last time. If you zero'd correctly last time you were good to go the next time.
SGM Erik Marquez
SGT Bryon Sergent
PMI 101.
Q. What is the one of the very first things you are going to do prior to start zeroing?
A. You will set your (or any weapon for that matter that you will be shooting) to Battle Sight Zero.
Now what USED to happen(haven't seen it in a very long time). Is once you are zero'd you would write your zero i.e.: Up 5 Left 2 on a sticky label and it would go in the hollow of your handgrip. So next time you drew your assigned weapon all you had to do was go back to Battle Sight Zero and adjust to what you shot last time. If you zero'd correctly last time you were good to go the next time.
SGM Erik Marquez
SGT Bryon Sergent
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Sgt Lou DiMasi
How do you set a BZO before setting a weapon to mechanical zero first?
Isn't mechanical zero for M-16/ M-4 at elevation 8/3, windage centered, front sight post flush to front sight post assembly, necessary to get that rifles BZO at 300 meters?
Isn't mechanical zero for M-16/ M-4 at elevation 8/3, windage centered, front sight post flush to front sight post assembly, necessary to get that rifles BZO at 300 meters?
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Sgt Lou DiMasi
Sgt Lou DiMasi - only because the original comment talked about people tesetting his sights. I've gotten my rifle out of the armory with my weapon adjusted, be it on purpose or accidentally. Like when my EOTech was taken off and my iron sights put back on after deployment or training ops. It burned my ass every time.
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SFC John Hill - True but it would fix the problem of multiple Soldiers firing the same weapon. For example in my reserve unit I am authorized 158 Soldiers and have 165 assigned. Not everyone shows up every Battle Assembly (new terminology for drill) but I do not have enough weapons to assign every Soldier a unique weapon.
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MSG Martin Prior
It's an age old question, but you got it. Battle sight zero is the weapon's zero, not the person. A good shooter will zero the weapon correctly and any other soldier can pick up the weapon and fire accurately.
All that said, I appreciate the original questions intent: 'It's my weapon!'
It is. I bet you know the serial number and butt stock number. Bravo. I still remember the serial number of my first weapon like I know my name.
But? I've had many weapons since and it was important to know how to mechanical zero and then battle sight my next one.
So? If you don't want to change the sights on 'your' weapon? Think of the next guy and the next weapon you call yours.
It's the weapon. Treat everyone as yours.
All that said, I appreciate the original questions intent: 'It's my weapon!'
It is. I bet you know the serial number and butt stock number. Bravo. I still remember the serial number of my first weapon like I know my name.
But? I've had many weapons since and it was important to know how to mechanical zero and then battle sight my next one.
So? If you don't want to change the sights on 'your' weapon? Think of the next guy and the next weapon you call yours.
It's the weapon. Treat everyone as yours.
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DA PAM 350-38 STRAC states that all DA Soldiers will qualify with their assigned weapon every 6 months. All Army Reserve and National Guard units will qualify with their assigned weapon every 12 months.
You will notice the applicable word there is ASSIGNED
You will notice the applicable word there is ASSIGNED
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SSG (Join to see)
Ahhh no. Ppl in my unit get their weapon reassigned all the time it SUUUUUUCKS!! And is a systemic propblem throughout the guard.
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SMSgt (Join to see)
In the Air Guard they went to just in time training - you didn't qualify unless you were deploying. If I had known that after I came back from Iraq in 2007, I wouldn't have tried so hard to qualify. Not a good idea to go somewhere there is a lot of gunfire after just coming back from there 4 week prior.
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