Are senior NCOs allowed to use a master key to walk into soldiers barracks rooms unannounced?

2019-05-11T09:39:57-04:00

the biggest offender to this is one of our companies female 1sg walking in males rooms and weve had issues with them not being fully clothed when she barged in.I've been trying to find the regulation that covers this but I can't seem to locate it or I'm missing the section covering it.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made May 11 at 2019 9:53 AM

2019-05-11T09:53:10-04:00

This is a situation where I would skip hunting down the regulation and go straight to IG to complain. This is unacceptable and if it had been a male 1SG walking into female rooms with a key, this would have been deemed predatory behavior and the 1SG relieved. It doesn't take a regulation to point out that someone is wrong.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made May 11 at 2019 11:05 AM

2019-05-11T11:05:59-04:00

This is more wrong than a 3 dollar bill. I can't add anymore than what SFC Private RallyPoint Member has already said.

Response by SGM Bill Frazer made May 11 at 2019 11:08 AM

2019-05-11T11:08:00-04:00

1. isn't a SNCO, its the 1sg, rt man fo the CO. Its they barracks to maintain. I doubt you will find it in a regulations. But like Jason said, because its unannounced and mixed troops, the IG should be informed, just like it was Male 1SG and female troops.

Response by SSG Brian G. made May 11 at 2019 8:12 PM

2019-05-11T20:12:44-04:00

We actually had a situation like this back in the day when I was stationed in Germany. Kaserne barracks were divided with female soldiers on the first floor and males on the remaining floors. While a First Sergeant had the run of his company area and barracks, he/she still had to announce themselves.

I remember once incident where we had a female troop collapse in the barracks. I was CQ at the time and was there until relieved. Top and the XO had been notified of the incident by CQ NCO. Top arrived and knocked firm and loud on the door and announced himself "Male on the floor. This is First Sergeant Smith."

He of course not knowing the state of dress of the females, thus allowing them a brief time to get covered prior to his entrance.

As to your stated situation, heck no that is wrong as the day is long. Two stops should be made. The first to the CO and the second to the IG. This First Sergeant has no business being in the position they are in. It's predatory regardless of the sex.

Response by CPT Aaron Kletzing made May 11 at 2019 8:24 PM

2019-05-11T20:24:55-04:00

This is wrong. Go to IG.

Response by MSgt Steven Holt, NRP, CCEMT-P made May 11 at 2019 10:56 PM

2019-05-11T22:56:35-04:00

I don't know what's worse here. The fact a female 1SG is barging into male rooms unannounced, or that the BN Commander allows it to happen. The IG should be informed at the earliest possible opportunity. I can only imagine the outrage that would already be blazing had it been a male SNCO barging into female rooms.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made May 12 at 2019 9:45 AM

2019-05-12T09:45:46-04:00

As a 1SG myself, I will tell you that NO! No soldier should be walking in a dedicated barracks of the opposite sex unannounced! That is an instant SHARP complaint and can get any First Sergeant relieved very quickly!

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made May 12 at 2019 1:38 PM

2019-05-12T13:38:09-04:00

The answer is straight forward: No, get her out!

Response by SSG Dale London made May 12 at 2019 10:03 PM

2019-05-12T22:03:11-04:00

Chalk one up for the #metoo movement and file sexual harrassment charges because that's exactly what this is.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made May 13 at 2019 8:06 AM

2019-05-13T08:06:00-04:00

Doesn’t matter if they’re of the opposite sex or not, you cannot just go into someone’s room just because you have a key. That’s unlawful entry. The only time you can barge in legitimately is if you suspect danger to life, limb or eyesight. We’ve got someone being investigated for that over here right now. I’d consult with your local legal office first.

Response by SSgt Christophe Murphy made Apr 14 at 2020 9:15 PM

2020-04-14T21:15:53-04:00

Barracks inspections are part of the life but what you described is not allowed and needs to be reported.

Response by SGT Thomas Carter made Aug 4 at 2021 2:31 AM

2021-08-04T02:31:36-04:00

If they are of the opposite sex before they can enter the room they have to announce themselves with a With the phrase that sounds like "Female sergeant coming in!", unless it's an extreme circumstance that can be fairly broador an emergency. Remember that if you live in the barracks you pretty much are at the mercy of the commanding structure. You do have a fair amount of rites and to find out what they are you can check the regulations or go to JAG or go to the IG.

Response by SPC Greg Campbell made Oct 4 at 2022 12:48 PM

2022-10-04T12:48:09-04:00

Aww HELL NO. Only time you yanked on the handle without knocking was when it was your room. On a upside my door had the original skeleton key and only 2 keys. I had one, roomie had other. Pretty much always locked the door to prevent that.