Are septum piercings authorized in Air Force uniforms?

PO1 John Miller — Wed, 15 Jun 2016 14:22:09 -0400

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 15 at 2016 2:22 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 15 Jun 2016 14:22:41 -0400

Apparently not. It's a huge issue everywhere

Response by PFC Leander Yazzie made Jun 15 at 2016 2:24 PM

PFC Leander Yazzie — Wed, 15 Jun 2016 14:24:33 -0400

Beat your face! Or meat!

Response by PO2 Robert Aitchison made Jun 15 at 2016 2:25 PM

PO2 Robert Aitchison — Wed, 15 Jun 2016 14:25:02 -0400

Wow that's just terrible. Also are those earrings regulation for the AF?

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 15 at 2016 2:27 PM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 15 Jun 2016 14:27:10 -0400

If I were her supervisor, her and I would have a one way conversation about this pic and the violation of uniform standards.....

Response by PO3 Steven Sherrill made Jun 15 at 2016 2:32 PM

PO3 Steven Sherrill — Wed, 15 Jun 2016 14:32:31 -0400

PO1 John Miller Anytime I see someone with a septum piercing, I want to attach a leash to it, and lead them around like livestock. Being that she is in uniform, I can see it unfolding like this:
1) Airman shows up with piercing, and is corrected before pulling onto the base
2)Airman notes the Security Police Officer's name
3) Airman files a SHARP complaint against the SP Officer
4) SP Officer gets a reprimand because he said something to her.

That is the way of things. The way of Politically Correct.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 15 at 2016 2:34 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 15 Jun 2016 14:34:20 -0400

Also, most everyone that has a septum piercing has it in while they're in uniform, they just flip it up into their nostrils so it can't be seen. She can't do that with hers, but with other ones they can

Response by TSgt Brian Wyngaert made Jun 15 at 2016 2:39 PM

TSgt Brian Wyngaert — Wed, 15 Jun 2016 14:39:48 -0400

I did have one first sergeant that when he caught males with a earring and you were his the next day he was at his office to be presented with your Article 15 paperwork

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 15 at 2016 2:45 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 15 Jun 2016 14:45:21 -0400

NO! NO! NO! NO!

Response by Cpl Justin Goolsby made Jun 15 at 2016 2:56 PM

Cpl Justin Goolsby — Wed, 15 Jun 2016 14:56:27 -0400

That would honestly kill me. I was all about uniform regulations. I took pride in my uniform and spent an hour each day making sure I always looked shit hot. This speaks to me as someone who only care about herself instead of everything her uniform represents. It saddens me that people don't have the same love for the honor of wearing the uniform that I did.

Response by SPC(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 15 at 2016 2:58 PM

SPC(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 15 Jun 2016 14:58:32 -0400

Lack of discipline and honor of those that wore it before them. I hope her leadership corrected this issue

Response by LTC Paul Labrador made Jun 15 at 2016 3:03 PM

LTC Paul Labrador — Wed, 15 Jun 2016 15:03:32 -0400

1. Is she still in the USAF or AD or reserve? Sometimes folks who have gotten out may pull this crap to get a rise.

2. If she is, and you know her or her unit, report her ass to her NCO chain...

Response by SSG James Elmore made Jun 15 at 2016 3:06 PM

SSG James Elmore — Wed, 15 Jun 2016 15:06:40 -0400

I'm not even AF and I would still make her stand there till she took it out then escort her back to her command!

Also she isn't wearing her seat belt properly!!! LOL

Response by MGySgt James Forward made Jun 15 at 2016 3:26 PM

MGySgt James Forward — Wed, 15 Jun 2016 15:26:23 -0400

The Master Gunny's head is about to explode. SHM. Semper Fi.

Response by SGT Philip Roncari made Jun 15 at 2016 5:44 PM

SGT Philip Roncari — Wed, 15 Jun 2016 17:44:03 -0400

My only comment----"It's a strange strange world we live in master jack"

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 15 at 2016 7:20 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 15 Jun 2016 19:20:46 -0400

Theirs is a little smaller.

Response by LTC Stephen C. made Jun 16 at 2016 4:21 PM

LTC Stephen C. — Thu, 16 Jun 2016 16:21:47 -0400

PO1 John Miller, at least she should have gone public with the photo horizontally flipped! I helped her out!

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 16 at 2016 6:43 PM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 16 Jun 2016 18:43:38 -0400

I do not see the need for pointless regulations. Like physical fitness and certain grooming standards in a non deplorable job

Response by SMSgt Brian Millington made Jun 16 at 2016 6:59 PM

SMSgt Brian Millington — Thu, 16 Jun 2016 18:59:08 -0400

Quite sure that as dumb as this Airman is for wearing this in uniform and posting it on social media, she isn't dumb enough to wear it out in public where it could have been seen. Unless she is looking for a relentless ass chewing.

Response by SPC Roger Giffen made Jun 16 at 2016 7:19 PM

SPC Roger Giffen — Thu, 16 Jun 2016 19:19:41 -0400

What you want to wear on your own time and out of uniform is up to you. The minute you put on the uniform, all non regulation jewelry of any type goes into the drawer until the next time you are out of uniform

Response by SGT Jose Perdelia-Torres made Jun 16 at 2016 7:25 PM

SGT Jose Perdelia-Torres — Thu, 16 Jun 2016 19:25:59 -0400

Start the paperwork, "Failure to adapt"

Response by PO1 Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 16 at 2016 7:30 PM

PO1 Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 16 Jun 2016 19:30:52 -0400

whaaaooo. Cowboys and Cowgirls. Though we all know that stuff like this is NOT allowed, please pay attention to detail. Where is she? I believe a car is a good answer. Do we know if she wore it to formation? Who's to say but her SGT. Now.. if we see such items blatantly flaunted in working areas, formation or other professional environments, then we have a case. I don't agree with her putting this on while in uniform, which is obviously what she is doing. In turn violates uniform protocol. Then she should be spoken to about that. Remember, some of us in our younger years pushed the boundaries of uniform professionalism (I know I am guilty). So instead of trying to hang her, I am sure some responsible SNCO will lock her down and explain the complications that come with displaying such unauthorized articles that do not belong with our uniforms. Cause we all know how mod mentality works and have seen it in action against a certain Army CSM who was for sure BLATANTLY pushing to uniform regs!! Some one take care of this young'n!

Response by SSgt Jamie Ritter LeBlanc made Jun 16 at 2016 8:07 PM

SSgt Jamie Ritter LeBlanc — Thu, 16 Jun 2016 20:07:57 -0400

No it's not! I don't even need to look it up AFI 36-2903! Does not matter if she is AD, Reserve, or Guard!

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 16 at 2016 8:13 PM

MSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 16 Jun 2016 20:13:27 -0400

I am active duty Air Force and I can rest assure you that no AD SNCO would let this "Airman" walk around so blatantly out of regulations!

Response by LCDR Gabriel Helms made Jun 16 at 2016 8:44 PM

LCDR Gabriel Helms — Thu, 16 Jun 2016 20:44:34 -0400

Back when I was stationed at Ft. Gordon, in '91, earrings were not authorized for service members...period. I was in the chow hall and saw a young private who defied the rules and had one in while in civilian clothes. A gunny saw it the same time I did. Gunny walked up to said private, cocked his head a little, then reached up and yanked the earring down and out, cleanly splitting his earlobe in two. As private is screaming in pain, Gunny reminds him that they aren't authorized, even in civilian clothes. I'm betting the private never broke regs again. I think the same tactic should be used for septum rings.

Response by SrA Steven Caro made Jun 16 at 2016 10:21 PM

SrA Steven Caro — Thu, 16 Jun 2016 22:21:50 -0400

absolutely not... no way should that be tolerated in any way shape or form.

Response by CPL Ben Garcia made Jun 16 at 2016 10:24 PM

CPL Ben Garcia — Thu, 16 Jun 2016 22:24:52 -0400

Damn

Response by SMSgt William Hassiepen made Jun 16 at 2016 11:41 PM

SMSgt William Hassiepen — Thu, 16 Jun 2016 23:41:13 -0400

Just make me sick

Response by SPC Lee Mcnutt made Jun 16 at 2016 11:51 PM

SPC Lee Mcnutt — Thu, 16 Jun 2016 23:51:21 -0400

Absolutely not!! I was in the Army and I followed AR 670-1 to a T. I took a lot of pride in my uniform as well. This is truly unacceptable. Her leaders should put a stop to this quick, fast and a hurry.

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 17 at 2016 12:20 AM

SSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 17 Jun 2016 00:20:57 -0400

Absolute trash. Why is wearing the uniform correctly such a seemingly daunting task? Standards and regulations exist in the military for a reason. If you don't like or agree with them, finish your term and get out. Bottom line.

Response by MSgt Gloria Vance made Jun 17 at 2016 12:22 AM

MSgt Gloria Vance — Fri, 17 Jun 2016 00:22:13 -0400

Nope..... She's just showing us how stupid she is!!! Keep going Girl!!! I don't think you look stupid enough!! LOL!!!

Response by SP6 Heather Chaney made Jun 17 at 2016 1:14 AM

SP6 Heather Chaney — Fri, 17 Jun 2016 01:14:16 -0400

Well the big honking earrings are not allowed, I'm pretty sure the contacts can gtfo and the nose ring should be pulled out. NONE of that is allowed! And while she is at it.. fix your hair!!!!!

Response by SGT Marc Riordan made Jun 17 at 2016 1:49 AM

SGT Marc Riordan — Fri, 17 Jun 2016 01:49:26 -0400

It's the Air Force, who cares? lol

Response by MSgt Billy McDonough made Jun 17 at 2016 1:52 AM

MSgt Billy McDonough — Fri, 17 Jun 2016 01:52:09 -0400

No they are not.

Response by SFC Mike Rogers made Jun 17 at 2016 7:31 AM

SFC Mike Rogers — Fri, 17 Jun 2016 07:31:49 -0400

AFI 36-2903 18 JULY 2011 27
3.5.1. In uniform on or off a military installation: With the exception of earrings for women
(see paragraphs 6.3.1.1), all members are prohibited from attaching, affixing, or displaying
objects, articles, jewelry or ornamentation to or through the ear, nose, tongue, eye brows,
lips, or any exposed body part (includes visible through the uniform).
3.5.2. In civilian attire on official duty on or off a military installation: With the exception
of earrings for women (see paragraphs 6.3.1.1), all members are prohibited from attaching,
affixing or displaying objects, articles, jewelry or ornamentation to and/or through the ear,
nose, tongue, eye brows, lips, or any exposed body part (includes visible through clothing).
3.5.3. In civilian attire off duty on a military installation: With the exception of earrings for
women (see paragraphs 6.3.1.1) and areas in and around military family and privatized
housing, all Air Force members are prohibited from attaching, affixing and/or displaying
objects, articles, jewelry or ornamentation to and/or through the ear, nose, tongue, eye brows,
lips, or any exposed body part (includes visible through clothing).

This is taken directly from the Air Force Reg book... her chain of Command should be taking action to uphold the standards or they set new standards

Response by LCpl Jim Pleace made Jun 17 at 2016 7:34 AM

LCpl Jim Pleace — Fri, 17 Jun 2016 07:34:41 -0400

I don't know AF regs but I'd bet she's out of uniform. End of story

Response by MSgt Devon Saunders made Jun 17 at 2016 7:55 AM

MSgt Devon Saunders — Fri, 17 Jun 2016 07:55:33 -0400

Helllll to the NO!!! Not allowed, authorized, permitted Etc etc etc..

Response by Sgt William Themann made Jun 17 at 2016 9:34 AM

Sgt William Themann — Fri, 17 Jun 2016 09:34:20 -0400

This has to be a joke!

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 17 at 2016 9:40 AM

MSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 17 Jun 2016 09:40:27 -0400

Not only is the nose ring completely out if regs, the ear rings are also out of regs. Nothing is allowed in the nose and only spherical earings 6mm or less allowed in the ears. This pos hives airmen a bad name

Response by SGT Jason Keefer made Jun 17 at 2016 10:02 AM

SGT Jason Keefer — Fri, 17 Jun 2016 10:02:13 -0400

Violates appearance regs, just like those earrings. Some NCO better snatch this airmen up and correct her.

Or does the airforce still do that?

Response by CW2 George Lansford made Jun 17 at 2016 10:11 AM

CW2 George Lansford — Fri, 17 Jun 2016 10:11:09 -0400

If this is a stunt in order to get a rise out of someone, let her Chain of Command give her the attention she covets. This is someone indicative of today's military. They don't need to serve if they can't maintain some level of self discipline and respect for regulations.

Response by SPC Tony Bucaro made Jun 17 at 2016 1:36 PM

SPC Tony Bucaro — Fri, 17 Jun 2016 13:36:15 -0400

LMFAO!! I would hope not but then again .... We are talking about the Air Force!!

Response by PFC Amthony Murray made Jun 17 at 2016 2:44 PM

PFC Amthony Murray — Fri, 17 Jun 2016 14:44:54 -0400

I sure hope not. That is so far from professional looking,

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 17 at 2016 3:35 PM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 17 Jun 2016 15:35:47 -0400

She's also needs to fix her name tapes...they seem to be backwards!

I am curious how this Airman's offense will compare to this Soldier's offense. Are these on similar scales?

Response by SGT Stacey Nelson made Jun 17 at 2016 8:09 PM

SGT Stacey Nelson — Fri, 17 Jun 2016 20:09:46 -0400

She is in her personal vehicle. She probably has a clicker sitting in her console and popped it in before or after duty. It is just so she could get likes on Instagram, more than likely.

Response by CAPT Kevin B. made Jun 17 at 2016 9:22 PM

CAPT Kevin B. — Fri, 17 Jun 2016 21:22:58 -0400

Easy there folks. That's the positive terminal for jump starting her brain. The shine tells me it needs to be done frequently. :)

Response by PO1 Robert Closson made Jun 18 at 2016 5:16 PM

PO1 Robert Closson — Sat, 18 Jun 2016 17:16:45 -0400

I really don't even know where ti begin with this photo I will say this it makes my blood boil if I was her LPO there would be no counseling or EMI in her future it would be straight to Captain's Mast Or AKA Article 15 as other branches of the service know it. I would push for 45/45 $250.00 for two and reduction in rate.

Response by SPC James Jones made Jun 19 at 2016 9:17 AM

SPC James Jones — Sun, 19 Jun 2016 09:17:49 -0400

No goddamn way! Never disgrace that uniform with that shit. 82nd Airborne retired.

Response by TSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 21 at 2016 9:30 AM

TSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 21 Jun 2016 09:30:18 -0400

Hell no! Her earrings are out of reg too.

Response by SrA Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 21 at 2016 10:12 AM

SrA Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 21 Jun 2016 10:12:45 -0400

No! Hell no!
According to Air Force regulation 36-2903 there is no piercing allowed for men in uniform period. As far as women go they are allowed one small earring, conservative and they both must be pierced in the same hole on each ear.

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 21 at 2016 10:20 AM

MSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 21 Jun 2016 10:20:35 -0400

No.

Response by SrA Rebecca Jaffee made Jun 21 at 2016 12:53 PM

SrA Rebecca Jaffee — Tue, 21 Jun 2016 12:53:05 -0400

Very obviously not allowed. Not only is this completely out of regs, this looks incredibly stupid.

Response by A1C Elizabeth Adams made Jun 21 at 2016 9:30 PM

A1C Elizabeth Adams — Tue, 21 Jun 2016 21:30:31 -0400

No. No they are not. Only one small round stud in each ear lobe. Nothing else.

Response by A1C Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 22 at 2016 9:12 PM

A1C Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 22 Jun 2016 21:12:04 -0400

Not at all. Its not allowed anywhere in the world

Response by PO2 Samantha Day made Jun 24 at 2016 1:00 PM

PO2 Samantha Day — Fri, 24 Jun 2016 13:00:02 -0400

I don't know if anyone else noticed...but her earrings are not regulation either. I am retired Navy but I did look up Air Force regulations to double check... "Women are authorized to wear one small spherical, conservative, diamond, gold, white pearl, or silver pierced or clip earring per earlobe. Matching earrings must be worn and should fit tightly without extending below the earlobe, except for the connecting band on clip earrings." Those are NOT "single spherical".
Air Force is much more lenient on earrings than the Navy.... "USN Women: One earring per ear (centered on earlobe) may be worn while in uniform. Earrings shall be 4mm - 6mm ball (approximately 1/8 - 1/4 inch), plain with shiny or brushed matte finish, screw on or with posts. Gold for officers/CPOs, and silver for enlisted personnel. Small single pearl earrings are authorized for wear with Dinner and Formal Dress uniforms."

Response by TSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 1 at 2016 1:54 PM

TSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 01 Jul 2016 13:54:57 -0400

I've seen a lot of these photos lately. It's just members acting out. It's a fake septum piercing, which is why the photo is taken in the car, not in public. That's not to say that it is not unprofessional! It is absolutely unprofessional and immature. Just rest assured she is not walking around like that.

Response by SPC(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 5 at 2017 7:37 PM

SPC(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 05 Jul 2017 19:37:51 -0400

At first I thought it was a snap chat filter. But then I saw the earrings. Airmen is wearing at least two sets of earrings in each ear which is against regulation. I don't see an issue with piercings as long as they can't be seen or if they're worn off duty in civilian clothes. I have some piercings which I wear on off duty hours and my ncos don't have an issue as long as they can't be seen when I'm at work or in any army uniform. That's crazy that she's actively wearing them in her air force uniform

Response by MSgt Edward Lippiett made Mar 15 at 2018 6:54 PM

MSgt Edward Lippiett — Thu, 15 Mar 2018 18:54:17 -0400

id have a artical 15 on her so fast

Response by Lt Col George Roll made Dec 19 at 2018 4:57 PM

Lt Col George Roll — Wed, 19 Dec 2018 16:57:43 -0500

Hell No

Response by Capt Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 22 at 2018 7:57 AM

Capt Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 22 Dec 2018 07:57:34 -0500

Wow... it's a fake snapchat people... get with the times, please

Response by MSgt Oliver Wright made Dec 22 at 2018 9:56 PM

MSgt Oliver Wright — Sat, 22 Dec 2018 21:56:33 -0500

Very unprofessional