Are Service Members just civilians in uniforms?

PO3 Aaron Hassay — Fri, 18 Aug 2017 15:46:57 -0400

Thought Project. Before during after Military we're Civilians in Uniform. We are taught group think family, school, friends, cliques, military, police etc.
Fact, Constitution of the United States Preamble starts "We the People". That is 1 large group, 2 separate Justice Systems civilian and military, seemingly complicating 1 group dramatically. Energy should be invested in simplicity.

Response by SPC Margaret Higgins made Aug 18 at 2017 4:04 PM

SPC Margaret Higgins — Fri, 18 Aug 2017 16:04:57 -0400

PO3 Aaron Hassay: I am now a civilian. When I was Active in the Army; I was a Soldier.
Hope this answers your question, Petty Officer Third Class, Margaret

Response by MSgt James Mullis made Aug 18 at 2017 4:08 PM

MSgt James Mullis — Fri, 18 Aug 2017 16:08:25 -0400

No! Service Members are not "civilians in uniform". While it is true that a Soldier (Sailor, Airman or Marine) starts out as a civilian, not all civilians have what it takes to become a Soldier, and thankfully, in America, not all civilians have to. The Military life is one filled with sacrifice...losses...want...trials and tribulations...that not every "civilian" can or would even want to handle. I'll let Toby Keith finish the point for me!

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Response by Capt Jeff S. made Aug 18 at 2017 5:50 PM

Capt Jeff S. — Fri, 18 Aug 2017 17:50:51 -0400

For Marines, once a Marine, always a Marine.

Response by Cpl Mark A. Morris made Aug 18 at 2017 7:07 PM

Cpl Mark A. Morris — Fri, 18 Aug 2017 19:07:53 -0400

Perhaps, with the destruction of standards, I mean, with the change to gender neutral standards your question might be closer to the truth.
No. I'm not sorry for writing that. I actually feeeeel better.
Cheers!

Response by SSgt Rob Millard made Aug 18 at 2017 8:42 PM

SSgt Rob Millard — Fri, 18 Aug 2017 20:42:13 -0400

Service members can be considered civilians in uniform on the day that we can tell a civilian to attack a heavily fortified position, facing almost certain death, and we can imprison them if they tell the leader to go to Hell.

Response by LTJG Richard Bruce made Aug 18 at 2017 10:18 PM

LTJG Richard Bruce — Fri, 18 Aug 2017 22:18:15 -0400

We don't have a "Justice" system. We have "Legal" system. Various civilian legal systems and the UCMJ all are derivative from the Constitution and common law.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 19 at 2017 1:20 PM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 19 Aug 2017 13:20:29 -0400

Maybe, but I doubt SM's will ever feel like a "Civilian" again.

Response by SP5 Norman McGill made Aug 19 at 2017 4:21 PM

SP5 Norman McGill — Sat, 19 Aug 2017 16:21:24 -0400

If it were all that simple it wouldn't be so interesting.

Response by CSM Darieus ZaGara made Aug 20 at 2017 4:21 PM

CSM Darieus ZaGara — Sun, 20 Aug 2017 16:21:43 -0400

Are the FBI drug dealers in a suit!