Posted on May 18, 2017
Are there any people on here who were in the Navy in late sixties to early 70s?
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My mom's husband claims to her that he was a counselor in the Navy. From what I know he was in probably late sixties to early 70s. I am not sure but I am pretty sure he was likely enlisted the entire time. Can enlisted be counselors in the Navy - as in behavioral health counselors? Could they then? I really can't see him ever being a counselor in a psychological sense.
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It was an odd time for Career Counselors. First, people were fed up with 'Nam. Second, people were punching out because the Navy couldn't paint a very good future. Let's see, we're downsizing, probably consolidating some ratings and you'll be on the losing end,... the list went on. Reagan was a later blip pushing for the 600 ship Navy. Only way to do that was to hang onto the obsolete crap that sailors hated. Then they were trying to man the two major wars going on at the same time scenario. I came in when Zumwalt was CNO. After him, long hair covered by wigs, beards overall OK, and other things went the way of the Gooney Bird. But that was when a carton of Camels cost a Buck.
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SFC (Join to see) Actually a "Navy Counselor" is an Enlisted Job Rating in the Navy, More of a Career Counselor than anything Else, You have to be a Senior Enlisted in another Field before You Apply.
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PO1 William "Chip" Nagel
SFC (Join to see) The NC rating was established in 1972 to assist in managing retention and augmenting recruiting with subject matter experts in the all volunteer force.
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2 NC branches now: NC(C)- Career Counselor, and NC(R) Career Recruiter. Both require you to be an E6 and complete a tour as a recruiter or command career counselor.
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CDR Terry Boles
SFC Kelly Fuerhoff
I enlisted in the Navy in 1974 and back in the day I was tagged to be a Career Counselor for my unit. I didn't have any formal training, just a lot of OJT; still have the CC badge for my shadow box one day...maybe. It was an OK assignment, felt more like a recruiter as I beat the bushes to talk to sailors about their careers. Later in my career I did a tour as a Navy Recruiter, boy was that a wake-up call!
My enlisted career was the "line" side, not medical then, however I do not remember any enlisted as a behavioral health counselor, however they certainty could have been assigned to a supporting role. My only interaction from that time period was I did escort a prisoner from the brig to a mental health appointment, and he was checked into the clinic by a Corpsman but was seen by a doc.
I enlisted in the Navy in 1974 and back in the day I was tagged to be a Career Counselor for my unit. I didn't have any formal training, just a lot of OJT; still have the CC badge for my shadow box one day...maybe. It was an OK assignment, felt more like a recruiter as I beat the bushes to talk to sailors about their careers. Later in my career I did a tour as a Navy Recruiter, boy was that a wake-up call!
My enlisted career was the "line" side, not medical then, however I do not remember any enlisted as a behavioral health counselor, however they certainty could have been assigned to a supporting role. My only interaction from that time period was I did escort a prisoner from the brig to a mental health appointment, and he was checked into the clinic by a Corpsman but was seen by a doc.
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So here's the deal: my mom's husband is a sociopathic abusive prick. The short story is my mom met him when she was married to my dad, he was married too and all four were friends. At some point my mom had an affair with him that lasted 12 years. My brother is a result of that affair and he was 12 when my mom took him and left to go be with this douchebag. We all have had a rocky relationship with her but I forgave her several years ago and she seems to see she screwed up and how he's a dick. I've been talking to her about him lately and the other day she said he told her that he knows she's a sociopath because he was a "counselor in the Navy" and he was "all over the world" so he knows more things than she does. To me that doesn't mean he was a career counselor but he very well could have been but he's telling her that because he was a counselor he can diagnose her as a sociopath. -- She's not. She was a narcissist in my youth but she has changed in the last five years or so.
I asked my mom if he has his military records still and she said yes she would look for them. I'm going to request whatever I can get my hands on because I think he's full of shit that he was a counselor in the behavioral health sense. I heard that he did a lot of drugs when he was in. I don't know what rank he was or rate or any of that but I'm hopefully going to find out.
From what I've seen in the Army any type of behavioral health counselor is either a civilian or an officer. Now if he was a career counselor than he's still full of it because there's no training as a career counselor in any branch of service that could allow you to diagnose someone as a sociopath. Can you see the signs in it? Yeah. My ex husband has signs of being a sociopath and narcissist. But I can't diagnose him as either as I'm not a medical professional.
I think he had to be late 60s because I think he was born in 50 or 51 so he would have been 18 in 68 if that is the case. I just want to really figure out if he's blowing even more smoke. This guy is honestly a disgusting vile person. He seems to hate women (mommy issues) and he's been married three times. He probably abused them all. I don't know what the hell my mother was thinking leaving my father for that thing. But he's remarried - now I'm just concerned about my mom since we're working on our relationship and I know what it's like to be in an abusive relationship and it took me awhile to wake up too.
I asked my mom if he has his military records still and she said yes she would look for them. I'm going to request whatever I can get my hands on because I think he's full of shit that he was a counselor in the behavioral health sense. I heard that he did a lot of drugs when he was in. I don't know what rank he was or rate or any of that but I'm hopefully going to find out.
From what I've seen in the Army any type of behavioral health counselor is either a civilian or an officer. Now if he was a career counselor than he's still full of it because there's no training as a career counselor in any branch of service that could allow you to diagnose someone as a sociopath. Can you see the signs in it? Yeah. My ex husband has signs of being a sociopath and narcissist. But I can't diagnose him as either as I'm not a medical professional.
I think he had to be late 60s because I think he was born in 50 or 51 so he would have been 18 in 68 if that is the case. I just want to really figure out if he's blowing even more smoke. This guy is honestly a disgusting vile person. He seems to hate women (mommy issues) and he's been married three times. He probably abused them all. I don't know what the hell my mother was thinking leaving my father for that thing. But he's remarried - now I'm just concerned about my mom since we're working on our relationship and I know what it's like to be in an abusive relationship and it took me awhile to wake up too.
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There seems to be a bit of confusion.
During the time your looking at there was (and may still be) a Navy Drug and Alcohol Counselor. It was not a rating, but held the NEC (Navy Enlisted Classification) of a 9522. I was one and worked at the In-patient Drug and Alcohol Rehabilitation Center at NAS Miramar in the late 70s/ early 80s. I later worked at Out-patient assignments.
In the late 80s the Navy added the Rating of a Navy Counselor (NC) ..... which has nothing at all to do with any type of Counseling for Drug or Alcohol Abuse/Addiction. The NC Rating is all about CAREER Counseling.
I hope this is helpful.
During the time your looking at there was (and may still be) a Navy Drug and Alcohol Counselor. It was not a rating, but held the NEC (Navy Enlisted Classification) of a 9522. I was one and worked at the In-patient Drug and Alcohol Rehabilitation Center at NAS Miramar in the late 70s/ early 80s. I later worked at Out-patient assignments.
In the late 80s the Navy added the Rating of a Navy Counselor (NC) ..... which has nothing at all to do with any type of Counseling for Drug or Alcohol Abuse/Addiction. The NC Rating is all about CAREER Counseling.
I hope this is helpful.
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The way my mom said he described it he was a marriage counselor - which is extremely laughable as he's been married three times. Also he's an abusive, raging POS.
I really think he's full of shit and made stuff up and he took some 40 hour course and exaggerates it as more than it was.
I really think he's full of shit and made stuff up and he took some 40 hour course and exaggerates it as more than it was.
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