Posted on Jul 21, 2018
Are there any thoughts as to why television and movie will have a male present as the "heavy" when a female is the brains behind the op?
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In the television show Moonlighting, Bruce Willis' character was fronted as the head of the detective agency, when My I'll Shepherd's character was the brains behind the operation. In the movie The Dark Knight Rises the character Bane was portrayed as the terrorist out for revenge on behalf if the League of Shadows, when actually the brains behind the terror was Ra's Al Gaul's daughter. Is this prevalent in life, the military, corporations, etc?
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Just a physiological fact. Women have the brains and men have the brawn.
Oh, I can't wait to see how much trouble I'm in for saying that...
Oh, I can't wait to see how much trouble I'm in for saying that...
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It is a Hollywood "affirmative reaction" for years of male dominance in film. It's BS, but I don't mind because it's just entertainment, and they are much better looking than Humphry Bogart or Silvester Stallone or Dwayne Johnson.
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At this particular time, we are in the process of culturally promoting "empowered" women. In TV comedies, major male characters are typically portrayed as socially inept and not very bright. In historical dramas and action movies, women are able to beat senseless almost any male twice their size with 1/3 the body fat. Not very historical.
Unfortunately instead of promoting the best of the very real differences between women and men, Hollywood takes the easy route; paint caricatures of the worst of male stereotypes and get women to exhibit the best traits of men. If women have to act like men to be empowered, how empowered are they?
Unfortunately instead of promoting the best of the very real differences between women and men, Hollywood takes the easy route; paint caricatures of the worst of male stereotypes and get women to exhibit the best traits of men. If women have to act like men to be empowered, how empowered are they?
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PO3 Phyllis Maynard
Maj John Bell I hear you loud and clear. But, I'm not talking about the situations that mirror where you are coming from. I'm speaking of real tough roll with the punches scenearios where men are skinning and grinning and the work does not belong to them
I.E. take me. I asked a make colleague to present an initiative I had worked up and proved to be successful. I put hundreds of my own money into it. He garnered major supporters, donors, merchandise, etc. I worked in the background, voluntarily. He lived for the center spot on everything. So he did all the glad handing. It didn't tick me off until he took every bit of the credit for the conception of the initiative. I didn't call him out in public. I left him in center spot alone to make my vision work. Needless to say, it crashed to the ground in front of his upline. When he asked me to fix it, never mind my response. Even still, many involved with my initiative took the kudos and credit and moved on to promotions. The overall initiative failed. They were able to duplicate the facts but not my vision.
I.E. take me. I asked a make colleague to present an initiative I had worked up and proved to be successful. I put hundreds of my own money into it. He garnered major supporters, donors, merchandise, etc. I worked in the background, voluntarily. He lived for the center spot on everything. So he did all the glad handing. It didn't tick me off until he took every bit of the credit for the conception of the initiative. I didn't call him out in public. I left him in center spot alone to make my vision work. Needless to say, it crashed to the ground in front of his upline. When he asked me to fix it, never mind my response. Even still, many involved with my initiative took the kudos and credit and moved on to promotions. The overall initiative failed. They were able to duplicate the facts but not my vision.
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Maj John Bell
PO3 Phyllis Maynard - That is not a male-female thing. That is a human thing. The vast majority of people are more than willing to take credit, and not give credit where it is due.
Let's use your scenario. Your male colleague is publicly given praise and credit. He stops the person praising him, and says "Thank you, but the credit you are giving me belongs to Phyllis. How many people, including yourself would be pleasantly surprised? Most if not all of us. For most of us, our experience is that people do not behave in that way. Maybe on small stuff, like who did the dishes, or took out the trash. But on big stuff, where credit, even false credit, offers some significant reward or advantage, MOST people regardless of their sex, act selfishly.
Another example: Rock bands. How many rock bands fall apart because the front man and the public thinks he's all that? But the real driving musical force is someone else. That someone else leaves the band and that is the beginning of the end for that band.
Let's use your scenario. Your male colleague is publicly given praise and credit. He stops the person praising him, and says "Thank you, but the credit you are giving me belongs to Phyllis. How many people, including yourself would be pleasantly surprised? Most if not all of us. For most of us, our experience is that people do not behave in that way. Maybe on small stuff, like who did the dishes, or took out the trash. But on big stuff, where credit, even false credit, offers some significant reward or advantage, MOST people regardless of their sex, act selfishly.
Another example: Rock bands. How many rock bands fall apart because the front man and the public thinks he's all that? But the real driving musical force is someone else. That someone else leaves the band and that is the beginning of the end for that band.
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PO3 Phyllis Maynard
Maj John Bell - that perspective is applicable, also.
But in keeping with the male/ female perspective on a personal life lesson, when a male has that "can you help me" something going on, I pull a street-cred to let him know everyone will know who the work belongs. Then when they agree I send them packing to one of their dumb male friends.
As for rock bands, I loved Fleetwood Mac. And for a time they were flip flopping.
But in keeping with the male/ female perspective on a personal life lesson, when a male has that "can you help me" something going on, I pull a street-cred to let him know everyone will know who the work belongs. Then when they agree I send them packing to one of their dumb male friends.
As for rock bands, I loved Fleetwood Mac. And for a time they were flip flopping.
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