Are there different routes one can take to officially change rank in the Army system?

SPC Brady Allen — Wed, 08 Feb 2017 13:39:05 -0500

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 8 at 2017 1:40 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 08 Feb 2017 13:40:24 -0500

Ensure to send the demotion orders to your finance office. They will process accordingly and he will accrue a collection of debt once they adjust the DOR.

Response by SPC Brady Allen made Feb 8 at 2017 1:45 PM

SPC Brady Allen — Wed, 08 Feb 2017 13:45:01 -0500

I ask because soldier was demoted on 03 JAN 17 and is still showing old rank on LES, EMILPO and AKO. This can really do a disservice to a soldier (MyPay) if a process is not properly dealt with. CoC is stating that have heard nothing from JAG in reference to paperwork, however speaking with JAG they said they sent paperwork last week. Is there an amiable way to go about this without stepping on peoples toes.

Response by SGM Erik Marquez made Feb 8 at 2017 1:58 PM

SGM Erik Marquez — Wed, 08 Feb 2017 13:58:10 -0500

Demotion and erroneously paid at old rank can and does happen....two separate systems and it takes a personal action for BOTH>
Id venture to say it always gets noticed at some point and once the personal action is properly completed, you can bet the Gov will recover ALL of the erroneously paid funds

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 8 at 2017 4:37 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 08 Feb 2017 16:37:53 -0500

SPC Brady Allen E-MILPO (system where promotions and reductions are entered) does not talk to the pay system, so that Soldier's leadership needs to ensure that the DA 2627 gets sent to finance ASAP. When finance comes to get that money, they will not hesitate for a single second on the collection.

Response by SGT Alan Dike made Feb 8 at 2017 4:52 PM

SGT Alan Dike — Wed, 08 Feb 2017 16:52:04 -0500

Yes... Up, and down

Response by TSgt Jim McGill made Jun 16 at 2017 1:19 PM

TSgt Jim McGill — Fri, 16 Jun 2017 13:19:10 -0400

what does this have to do with title of discussion?

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 16 at 2017 5:41 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 16 Jun 2017 17:41:26 -0400

A while back some schools moved all students / trainees to at least SSG. Even with a wash out soldier kept SSG
Look at pay scale. There are monthly pays for ranks with far too few years. Like MSG E8 with 4 years.

Response by SGT Joseph Miller made Jun 17 at 2017 1:14 AM

SGT Joseph Miller — Sat, 17 Jun 2017 01:14:12 -0400

AR 600-8-19 enlisted promotions and reductions, it explains what needs to be done. Usually it's just a DA Form 4187 with an attached copy of the article 15, for E-1 - E-4 it takes Company Commanders signature, for E-5 Bn Commander and E-6 it takes BDE Commanders signature or higher headquarters Commanders signature. For E-7 it takes Commanding Generals signature that's submitted to DA for official orders reducing soldier.

Response by Col Richard Roessler made Jun 17 at 2017 8:20 PM

Col Richard Roessler — Sat, 17 Jun 2017 20:20:46 -0400

Sure if you would like to change your rank, just look at the UCMJ, break a few of the rules and your rank will change in no time, this is perhaps the quickest way. The more time consuming, but more rewarding way is to do your job, complete whatever requirements are necessary for the next higher rank, and be recommended for promotion... ;)

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 18 at 2017 7:50 PM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 18 Jun 2017 19:50:59 -0400

Get sent to the NCO board a week before pcs, fail, and s shops will most likely fudge something up to show that you passed. Happened on more than one occasion.

Response by SSG Chris Morrison made Jun 20 at 2017 1:48 PM

SSG Chris Morrison — Tue, 20 Jun 2017 13:48:02 -0400

Got paid 26 months worth of w/ dependent BAH. Got remarked and the finance guy caught it. He looked at me and said it looks like you got 2 months of BAH while single. Why yes I did.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 20 at 2017 11:01 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 20 Jun 2017 23:01:46 -0400

Go to college!

Response by SFC Greg Corby made Jun 21 at 2017 8:47 AM

SFC Greg Corby — Wed, 21 Jun 2017 08:47:42 -0400

Max your APFT, max your civilian and military education, be an outstanding service member and your rank will change in a positive way.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 21 at 2019 9:21 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 21 Sep 2019 21:21:30 -0400

I’d like to see the Army and Marine Corps change the E7 - E9 ranks so we can better see them from a distance. This way we can properly address the one Sr. NCO that gets hung up on the mistake.

Response by 1LT Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 17 at 2019 10:34 PM

1LT Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 17 Nov 2019 22:34:50 -0500

Why is my bumper sticker on here?

Response by SGT Tom Recupero made Nov 8 at 2020 7:37 PM

SGT Tom Recupero — Sun, 08 Nov 2020 19:37:23 -0500

I knew a prior enlisted Officer that decided to for go his commission and demoted himself to an E-6, we called him The Juice.

Response by PO3 Scot Fahey made Nov 8 at 2020 11:21 PM

PO3 Scot Fahey — Sun, 08 Nov 2020 23:21:15 -0500

By error, I was promoted, and payment went to the bank I went from E-4 to O-5. when I returned and noticed 8 weeks of pay stubs were wrong, I did have to give the extra money back. I just was afloat and had no way to know. Showed the error to my Div Off and he said it was a good thing, I never had a chance to spend the money

Response by SFC Bill Snyder made Nov 9 at 2020 1:57 PM

SFC Bill Snyder — Mon, 09 Nov 2020 13:57:49 -0500

I can remember back in the old Brown Shoe Army, Military Pay Orders were initiated in the Personnel Office by the respective Company Pers Clerk based on the units Morning Report. Leave, promotions reductions,m etc., were entered in the MPO and sent to Finance. Things happened. e.g., If you forgot to enter an individual's departure and return from leave, they were never charged with that leave. Don't remember the many times I had to submit the MPO showing re-correction of an E-5, busted by CM to E-1 and years later, the CM was overturned and had to adjust his pay accordingly. AT least, if a screw up, it was caught rather early in the system. .