Army NCO Career progression to further develop a leader

2015-08-17T15:35:36-04:00

As a E-6 (SSG) what courses can I be taken for career progression?
SSD 3 is GTG.
College is GTG
ACCP in process
What else is there?any ideas?

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 17 at 2015 3:41 PM

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Drill Sergeant....Recruiter.....Instructor

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 17 at 2015 3:47 PM

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Have you looked on COOL? There are professional certifications for logistics that will not only set you apart militarily, but also be very valuable on the civilian side.

Response by MSgt Stephen Council made Aug 17 at 2015 4:43 PM

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I recommend a bachelors degree...

Response by CSM Michael J. Uhlig made Aug 17 at 2015 7:29 PM

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Have you considered an application to become a Warrant Officer? Those are master technicians and the subject matter experts of their craft!

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 18 at 2015 1:30 PM

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The first thing you should do is check your career map and make sure you are in the position your rank require. I know people don't like to volunteer but volunteering for sharp, EO, or any other assignment out there that you can take will put you ahead of your peers also you can take any certification specifically for your MOS this will put you in a position that you will get promoted in your first look

Response by CW4 Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 18 at 2015 1:45 PM

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SSG Private RallyPoint Member, have you taken a DAU courses? If you are looking for some good management type courses, then look into Program Management and Lean Six Sigma. Those two certs are money makers for the Military and for the civilian world.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 18 at 2015 6:43 PM

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Aside from ensuring you take care of your soldiers and do your job which will enhance the bullets on your NCOER check out DA Pam 600-25. Its lays out what to do for your MOS at what point in your career for ideal progression.

http://www.apd.army.mil/pdffiles/p600_25.pdf

The career map on AKO is shaky for certain MOS's and is only loosely based off of 600-25 .

Response by SGT Lawrence Corser made Aug 18 at 2015 7:13 PM

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Drill, or recruiter, Battle Staff, or some high speed foreign school?

Response by WO1 Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 19 at 2015 1:07 PM

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If you can get into Battlestaff that will help your carreer.

Response by CW2 Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 19 at 2015 1:54 PM

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It really depends on your job, but there is always battle staff, MRT, SHARP, EO...

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 19 at 2015 2:43 PM

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My recommendation is to look at professional development courses outside your primary MOS. Right now I am working in a MOS immaterial position as an NCOES Instructor and really enjoy what I am doing. If you can get courses/training under your belt that show that you are versitile and well rounded it will allow you to position yourself down the road for the "interesting" assignments when they come looking at experience.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 19 at 2015 2:46 PM

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Ranger school

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 19 at 2015 3:00 PM

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Drill SGT school.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 19 at 2015 4:03 PM

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College good? Are you got a master degree, or working in your doctorate. Also look for be a Sharp, EO, rep. Any army course you can enroll that work 40 hours or more you need to get enrolled in one once a year at least. To shown your interest in military progression and understanding

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 19 at 2015 7:46 PM

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I really don't have a magic ball nor does anyone on here commenting. Don't care if your a E-9 or a E-6 I have drill Sgt Sharp 1B ID all levels of combatives CIB,EIB college your typical lickey's and chewes airborne air assault 3 combat tours three marriages 2 divorces no one can tell you what gets you promoted no bad conduct great NCOERs but haven't been promted in 10 years when someone can solve the riddle of the SFC board that can you please let me know so I can get promoted

Response by CSM Christopher St. Cyr made Aug 19 at 2015 9:46 PM

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SSG Harris,

Two most important ranks in the Army: SSG and LT. There will be people who disagree with this assessment, but those are the people on the ground making the important decisions that accomplish missions and tasks. Your profile indicate you just made Staff. Career progression is great, but in the end memories are priceless. My best peace time military memories are from the days I spent as a howitzer section chief. Being an arty PSG was fun, but running a gun line was nothing like running a gun. I probably had a bigger impact on the Army overall as Smoke, but no where near as much fun.

Use your time as a Staff Sergeant to hone both your professional MOS skills and your leadership skills. Coach and mentor your Soldiers. Seek opportunities to mentor other Soldiers and leaders. Become a go-to person. Nothing better than asking an OC during lanes training a question they cannot find it a book. Become that person.

Last summer I had the opportunity to supervise a white cell for a large field artillery exercise. One day I decided to visit one of the motor pools of a unit I work with in the past hoping to run into some people I knew. I didn't, but I did have the chance to look over the Army's latest towed 155. I had never seen one up close and knew little about them so I was full of questions. I asked the young gunner some questions. Like I said I knew nothing about this particular weapon system, but I know artillery. He tried to blow smoke but my follow up questions in arty jargon blew the smoke back at him (he really should have paid attention as I was wearing the BDE's patch on my right arm that day). Before long one of the young Specialist saved him.

Nothing will improve your chances of promotion like being good at what you do and being smart about your job. People will notice your smarts and skills. People will take about you in front of senior NCOs and Officers. They will help spread the news you are a top notch person. That takes time. You don't get to play Carnegie Hall after playing the trombone for a week!

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 20 at 2015 11:21 AM

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Try looking into Battle Staff or becoming an instructor. The Army Basic Instructor Course(ABIC) is a great course to take as a path into instructing.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 20 at 2015 1:16 PM

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In all seriousness, the quickest way to enhance your career is to go to a SOF unit hands down! In SOF there is a 96% first look pick up rate for E7 and the average age of A SOF E7 is 28 to 31, and 31 to 33 for first sergeants!

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 20 at 2015 3:43 PM

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Mrt/ sharp/ battle staff/ eo/

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 20 at 2015 4:45 PM

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Look into course such as SHARP, EA, EO, also look at doing squad leader or platoon sergeant. If you are sitting in a slot closed w 2S (battle staff). Get to it as soon as possible. These are the major things the boards look at also join the NCOA and if you can show up at the annual ball and internet these all will help. Of course they are looking at who is self improving and a big one is college if you have a associates then be working on your bachelor and so forth. Volunteering in your community is another biggie go do volunteer work and work towards your volunteer award. This should give you a good start

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 20 at 2015 10:30 PM

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What is your MOS

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 21 at 2015 7:22 AM

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Sounds like you are on the right track, now start thinking outside the box. Most Soldiers shy away from the MRT, EO, MFT and maybe battle staff because they don't want the extra duty. The truth is, these school are very important in the Big Army's eyes. Depending on whether you have completed your SSG duties for your MOS, try and take battle staff. for example, if you were an Infantryman and had over 24 months of squad leader time it looks good if you worked in operations. This shows the boards that you are versatile. Lastly, look at your career map, most are online at the HRC site. This will give you all the details for career progression for your MOS.

Response by CW2 Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 25 at 2015 12:46 PM

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As a SSG, the big ones are the SFC billets. EO, Sharp, MRT, and IG. Of you can work your way into one of those positions and the school, it would help you towards promotion tremendously.

Response by MSG Greg Winter made Aug 25 at 2015 1:06 PM

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SEJPME -US001-Senior Enlisted Joint Professional Military Education (SEJPME) E6-E9 Course - (40 hrs)-Section 004

School: JKO

Objectives: The SEJPME Course prepares senior enlisted leaders assigned to joint organizations (or those with orders to joint organizations) to successfully support activities and supervise multiple Service members. Upon completion of the course SELs will be more confident and competent and more fully prepared to: 1) Quickly assimilate and effectively contribute in joint assignments and 2) Mentor junior enlisted leaders and the other enlisted personnel they supervise.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 25 at 2015 1:46 PM

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First of all I would like to thank everyone for responding and assisting which course/schools/leadership to go by.. This post was also intended for others concern hope this was useful and productive.. Rally point thank you for this site and community

Response by SSG Skylur Britz made Aug 25 at 2015 3:23 PM

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If you are gonna stay enlisted, Drll Sergeant or Recruiter. If you're wanting to go Warrant or Officer just start doing the packets, also get the highest level endorsement you can.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 25 at 2015 5:07 PM

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Ranger, jumpmaster, and pathfinder. Sargeant Audie Murphy or Oscar Morales would look great as well.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 25 at 2015 5:15 PM

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There are 3 academic requirements, patrols, peers and spots. If you fail one catagory you will be recycled. If you fail the same catagory you will be recommended for drop. However, the Bde commander will more than likely offer what is called a day one, meaning you start all over. This was the case for the three females. The day one option is given to pretty much everyone, very few accept it.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 25 at 2015 5:41 PM

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Battle staff, ranger school, sharp, EO, master gunner, Drill Sergeant, recruiter, ncoes instructor, just to name a few.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 25 at 2015 6:25 PM

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If you have or are working on your college degree that great and it will serve you well in the future. Depending on your MOS you can also look into classes that relate to it, ie if you are a commo guy then a A+ certification would help on the military and the civilian side. Just a thought.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 26 at 2015 3:46 PM

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Check out your QM Personnel Development Page. We have a wealth of knowledge and information there. http://www.quartermaster.army.mil/oqmg/enlisted_proponency/ep_main.html

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Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 26 at 2015 3:47 PM

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And your Professional Development Model is found here....
https://cac.cascom.army.mil/qmcs/ep_docs/career_maps/92A_Career_Map.pdf

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 26 at 2015 3:50 PM

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Bro, try and find your CMF, its SUPER useful.

Response by MSgt John Carroll made Nov 23 at 2015 8:50 PM

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I am not well versed in the Army promotion board so I don't know how much this may help. With that said, have you looked in to the Senior Enlisted Joint PME course? It is available for E-6 and above.

Response by SGM David W. Carr LOM, DMSM MP SGT made Dec 13 at 2015 2:57 AM

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I always tried to do the hard assignment, take leadership roles whenever possible, earned an undergraduate degree and certifications to compliment my military MOS
Spent most of my career in tactical units or at the ready for rapid deployment with short notice. When a position came available volunteered for deployments within my branch not MOS specific
Also maintained a current Top Secret clearance until my retirement unlike the majority of my peers

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 8 at 2019 9:15 PM

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