As a 91B, can I get 92A as a secondary MOS?

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 15 Feb 2015 15:17:38 -0500

I am a 91B and have been doing SAMS1-E (92A) for the last three years since we don't have a slot. Do any of you know if me and the fellow 91B who have been doing can get awarded it as a secondary MOS. I'm thinking of going Chief and I know 92A looks good in the maintenance world.

Response by SGT Steven Eugene Kuhn MBA made Feb 15 at 2015 3:22 PM

SGT Steven Eugene Kuhn MBA — Sun, 15 Feb 2015 15:22:27 -0500

I do not know for sure but I DO KNOW that whatever you want, you can make it happen regardless!

Response by SGT(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 29 at 2016 2:26 PM

SGT(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 29 Apr 2016 14:26:19 -0400

This is a tricky question to answer. Yes and no. There are two ways of going about it. 1) you get with branch and your retention person, request to change your MOS to 92A. This will require paperwork, release from the ordnance branch and a school date in AIT for 92A. Once you graduate AIT you will be awarded the MOS but it will become your primary MOS and 91B your secondary. This of course is easily rectified by a 4187 requesting an MOS change. This is a very lengthy process and requires a lot of moving pieces. Your second option is to beat up branch about being awarded 92A as your secondary MOS. this will require you to take a test most likely. You will have to prove your proficiency as a 92A. If you fail to score adequately you will most likely be required to attend AIT if you still want to go forward with the MOS change. The benefit of the second option is you can potentially avoid AIT and 92A will be awarded to you as a secondary MOS. bottom line to either option...you need to contact branch and your retention NCO. They will have the exact steps you need to take and be able to walk you through the process. Hope this is helpful.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 29 at 2016 2:29 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 29 Apr 2016 14:29:20 -0400

I'm not quite sure it works that way. Being a SAMS-E operator on its own does not qualify you to be a 92A, the actual MOS encompasses far more. Awarding MOS's isn't that simple. In order to reclassify, you would definitely need to attend a resident MOS course for the one you're pursuing. First, you would also have to be overstrength in your current MOS as well as the other MOS being under strength and needing people to fill. Next, once you complete the resident training, that new MOS would be granted as your Primary, not Secondary, because the Army is not going to spend money and time to train you at a MOS producing school if you're not going to use it. Further down the road you could request to switch back to 91B as your primary or just hold the 92A until you decide to go Warrant. Although when you decide to go Warrant, you usually have to complete ALC in the MOS that feeds into the Warrant branch you're pursuing.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 29 at 2016 2:40 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 29 Apr 2016 14:40:17 -0400

Got to go to the school, got to have the training on paper

Response by CW4 Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 29 at 2016 4:03 PM

CW4 Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 29 Apr 2016 16:03:27 -0400

In my humble opinion, to be honest with you. Don't worry about a secondary MOS, a 91B is all the MOS that you need. As a 91B you are expected to know how to run a SAMSE/G-Army box. When you become a Motor SGT, you are expected to know all aspects of what your 92A does on a daily basis. No Chief Warrant Officer wants to hear that work orders didn't get closed, services didn't get updated, man-hours were not logged, parts weren't picked up and processed, key control wasn't straight, ARIMS was updated......etc....just because the 92A was on duty or on leave. As the 91B, we expect you to hop in and perform those roles because guess what, as a Warrant Officer, that's what's expected of us and whole lot more. Go to the SAMSE and G-Army operator an supervisor courses if available and continue to balance your total maintenance and logistics workload and then one day you will be ready to put in that WOCS packet.

Response by SFC Kenneth Hunnell made Apr 29 at 2016 5:28 PM

SFC Kenneth Hunnell — Fri, 29 Apr 2016 17:28:08 -0400

Track your training and experience. Have a officer under that MOS give you an evaluation for the experience and turn it in to the TRADOC School for that MOS

Response by SGT Jason Murphy made Apr 30 at 2016 8:35 AM

SGT Jason Murphy — Sat, 30 Apr 2016 08:35:00 -0400

You could definitely give it a shot. What may happen is you might have to reclass into that MOS, worst case scenario. OR get with your Warrant Offcer( best bet in my opinion ) and see if you can get some OJT ( on the job training ) . At least when I was serving, I witnessed two Soldiers acquire a new MOS slot close to theirs by receiving OJT within the unit.

Response by SGT(P) Private RallyPoint Member made May 28 at 2017 9:30 AM

SGT(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 28 May 2017 09:30:13 -0400

All of these answers are correct, ensure you do your research on 92A MOS that you may find way more varieties of jobs other than just SAMS-1E. Also note to self, there will no longer be a SAMS-1E with the transitioning to GCSS-ARMY (Wave 2) so you would have to go through all new training/certification.