As a prior service member heading back to BCT, should I pre-purchase the awards I am authorized to wear and bring them with me?

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 13 Feb 2020 12:41:54 -0500

I am not going to OSUT, i just got my approved ETP. Thank you all for your information! I hope it helps others as well!

Edit: Thank you all for your answers and conversations, as it turns out i May not have to go back to BCT, The Colorado Guard is putting an exception to policy waiver up to the NGB.

Response by SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth made Feb 13 at 2020 12:46 PM

SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth — Thu, 13 Feb 2020 12:46:13 -0500

Personally I'd wait, until after A I T.

Response by SSG(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 13 at 2020 12:48 PM

SSG(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 13 Feb 2020 12:48:41 -0500

If they're on your ERB or in memo. They're yours to wear. I wouldn't see why not.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 13 at 2020 12:53 PM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 13 Feb 2020 12:53:22 -0500

What awards are you authorized if you haven't completed basic training?
You purchase your ASUs at BCT (unless your guard unit is able to get them before you ship out). The drill sergeants will let you know what if anything you need to purchase for your uniform.
Awards are earned during your service.

Response by SSG Carlos Madden made Feb 13 at 2020 12:53 PM

SSG Carlos Madden — Thu, 13 Feb 2020 12:53:48 -0500

I'm assuming you're prior service. Personally I'd wait until you leave the IET environment to put these on - or at least AIT graduation. However the cadre may direct you to wear them earlier. You'll have enough stuff to keep track of during BCT and shakedown that I wouldn't bother bringing them with me. Just purchase them when you get a chance at Clothing Sales so they fit with any other ribbons you're authorized. Just my .02

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 13 at 2020 1:00 PM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 13 Feb 2020 13:00:35 -0500

You earned it, wear it.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 13 at 2020 1:05 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 13 Feb 2020 13:05:43 -0500

Take a look at AR 600-8-22 chapter 5. It’s the Army awards regulation. Also, ensure you’re DD-214 is up to date. Whatever’s on it is what you’re authorized to wear

Response by SGT Ben Keen made Feb 13 at 2020 1:24 PM

SGT Ben Keen — Thu, 13 Feb 2020 13:24:52 -0500

I agree with SSG Carlos Madden, I would just wait. After looking at your profile, I'm assuming you have at least 4 medals awarded to you. In that, I'm assuming the National Defense Service Medal is one which they will give you again. So that leaves your deployment award (AAM?), your campaign medal and maybe an oversea service ribbon. As Carlos said, you know you will have enough things to worry about and it could only lead to more eyes looking your way during BCT. I would just wait and then bust them out when you get to AIT. Just make sure everything matches up with your DD214 as SGT Private RallyPoint Member mentioned.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 13 at 2020 1:39 PM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 13 Feb 2020 13:39:37 -0500

i guess i will expand this a little more as well, as i will be MOSQ can i bring my Blue cord, blue discs and crossed rifles as well?

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 13 at 2020 2:19 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 13 Feb 2020 14:19:22 -0500

I see you wrote you did 5 years in the ARNG and have 11 ribbons.
I'm assuming you're going back to the Guard so...
State issued awards** most likely will not be available when you go to BCT or your CSIB.
Are you returning to the same "state" ARNG? If you don't change states the **state issued awards may be good to go, if you change states that may not. Verify first.
At basic they should sew on the rank, service stripes and overseas bars if they are authorized.
Bring your paperwork... DD-214 and your NGB-22 plus any other supporting documentation.

By the way... Before you sew on the PVT Rank make sure you're not PFC or SPC. I'm not sure how the Guard promotes. It looks like you have TIS for at least PFC. Verify with your recruiter when you're up for promotion.

Per: AR 600–8–19 • 16 May 2019, Enlisted Promotions and Reductions
1–9. Standards of service (Page 4)
c. HRC (unit CDR for TPU), except Soldiers on initial active duty for training (IADT)) will—
(1) Automatically promote Soldiers to the ranks of private enlisted two (PV2), private first class (PFC), and SPC upon attainment of the required time in service (TIS) and time in grade (TIG) requirements established in this regulation. Unit CDRs will take action to promote all other Soldiers on an individual basis.
Section II
Processing Enlisted Promotions to Private E–2, Private First Class, and Specialist (Pages 21/22)
2–3. Rules
c. Eligibility criteria for automatic (RA and USAR) or immediate (ARNG) promotion to PV2, PFC, and SPC will be as follows:
(1) Promotion to PV2 is 6 months TIS.
(2) Promotion to PFC is 12 months TIS and 4 months TIG.
(3) Promotion to SPC is 24 months TIS and 6 months TIG.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 13 at 2020 2:27 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 13 Feb 2020 14:27:52 -0500

I mean, you earned them. I would. But no big deal if you don't. You can throw those bad boys back on after you graduate. I say it's up to you.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 13 at 2020 2:40 PM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 13 Feb 2020 14:40:32 -0500

I would wait, and ask your DS after being fitter for your ASUs. Towards the end of BCT or AIT there will be some time where you can go purchase them. Plus asking as you have the proper documentation for your awards, there should not be any problems.

Response by MAJ Byron Oyler made Feb 13 at 2020 2:55 PM

MAJ Byron Oyler — Thu, 13 Feb 2020 14:55:28 -0500

I would not wear 11 ribbons as a PV2 until the very end or if your DS finds out. Doing otherwise will bring unwanted attention.

Response by CSM Darieus ZaGara made Feb 13 at 2020 3:18 PM

CSM Darieus ZaGara — Thu, 13 Feb 2020 15:18:29 -0500

Of course you can. Make sure you have your DD214, your trainers will want to see you are authorized. Pre-purchase as you say is you only choice, the Army will not pay for them.

Response by SFC Bennie Davis made Feb 13 at 2020 7:17 PM

SFC Bennie Davis — Thu, 13 Feb 2020 19:17:04 -0500

I would first get a copy of my DD 214 and make sure everything is correct on it. Then get your ribbons, stripes and anything else you need ordered and have ready for your new ASU’s. Good luck on your new assignment.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 14 at 2020 8:30 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 14 Feb 2020 08:30:36 -0500

I say wear them. Sure, it will draw attention to you, but you can use that as motivation to continue to set the best example possible for those initial entry Soldiers. Share the story of your mistakes with them, and inspire them be better than you once were.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 14 at 2020 1:49 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 14 Feb 2020 13:49:28 -0500

Back in 92 we were not allowed to put patched etc on until AIT, not sure about these days.

Response by SSG(P) Danielle Birtha made Feb 19 at 2020 1:09 PM

SSG(P) Danielle Birtha — Wed, 19 Feb 2020 13:09:33 -0500

If you have an award listed in your DD214, it's part of your uniform, and should be worn when in Dress Uniform. Be sure to have a copy of the orders awarding your ribbons on hand if questioned.
Many soldiers ETS with ribbons, and come back later, and redo basic... as Privates... they still own those awards,and are authorized to wear them.
Any DS who harasses you for wearing them, should be reported to higher, if they say you can't wear them after seeing the orders.
Having said that... prior to wearing Dress, be sure your DS knows you're authorized to wear those ribbons, to avoid being put on the spot during Formation/Inspection (make sure they are positioned PERFECTLY) ;)

Response by LTC Ray Morris made Feb 23 at 2020 10:27 AM

LTC Ray Morris — Sun, 23 Feb 2020 10:27:10 -0500

Seems fair that if they appear in your recond anywhere, you are authorized to wear them. Just look to be singled out a by the cadre in Basic, for being expected to do a better job than everyone else. I expect you will be in the training chain of command.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 23 at 2020 6:42 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 23 Feb 2020 18:42:17 -0500

A DS that does not respect your prior engagements and awards is a DS that needs to find another career. A good one will see it as someone who can help sell what he is selling. The best of luck.

Response by SSG Gordon Eutsler made Feb 24 at 2020 8:10 AM

SSG Gordon Eutsler — Mon, 24 Feb 2020 08:10:29 -0500

Yes you can, I went back in after 7 year break and took all of my awards,

Response by Col Robert Wallace made Feb 24 at 2020 8:36 AM

Col Robert Wallace — Mon, 24 Feb 2020 08:36:46 -0500

From the National Defense Medal up to the Medal Of Honor, all were earned and should be worn proudly.

Response by SGT Mark Saint Cyr made Feb 24 at 2020 11:35 AM

SGT Mark Saint Cyr — Mon, 24 Feb 2020 11:35:08 -0500

If I remember army regulations correctly, and I probably do, since I spent too many years in admin, you can actually get into trouble by NOT displaying awards you've earned.

I strongly suggest, to CYA, you have the fruit salad made up, with all your decorations, badges and tabs, and perhaps even a uniform with patches sewn before BCT, show the drill sergeants, along with your dd-214 , and or NGB fm22 (if applicable), and be sure of WHAT THEY WANT YOU TO DO?

Most cases, DSs prefer all troops to be as 'equal' as possible in training, and not have you display those things until graduation day, when you can then wear everything.

Response by SSG Dean Long made Feb 24 at 2020 12:30 PM

SSG Dean Long — Mon, 24 Feb 2020 12:30:55 -0500

I actually went thru the same thing in 2005 when I returned to the Army after being out for 8 years. I waited until the end of Warrior Transition Course to put on my awards, to include my Air Assault Badge. Even though we were all prior service, with the majority coming from the Air Force and Navy, I did not want to draw undo attention to myself.

Response by SGT Aj Berry made Feb 24 at 2020 3:38 PM

SGT Aj Berry — Mon, 24 Feb 2020 15:38:13 -0500

My question is I thought prior service didnt have to go back to BCT again or they went to a different training for prior service personnel?

Response by SSG Norbert Johnson made Feb 24 at 2020 5:36 PM

SSG Norbert Johnson — Mon, 24 Feb 2020 17:36:00 -0500

Wait until you are graduating and then consult with your DS. Have your orders and DD214 authorizing the wear. Further if you are prior service, I would assume that it is another Branch. If it is the case then there are some ribbons and medals that are not authorized to wear in that particular Branch. That is why you bring it up with your DS when you know you are going to graduate with your class. Don't bypass the DS and follow the chain of command.

Response by LTC Lee Bouchard made Feb 24 at 2020 8:25 PM

LTC Lee Bouchard — Mon, 24 Feb 2020 20:25:25 -0500

I would go to your local recruiter's office and have them check the regs. They have likely had this question before with other N.G. service members. If allowed/authorized maybe wear 3 or 4 of the highest/most important that sends a positive msg. without appearing to want special privileges
or a pass etc. Otherwise, you have no need to draw unwanted attention. After B.C.T. wear everything.
Make sure Nat'l Guard awards are authorized to wear by the Active Army.

Response by 1LT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 24 at 2020 8:33 PM

1LT Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 24 Feb 2020 20:33:38 -0500

Yah bring your ribbons for asu and combat patch too if you have any.. however, they just changed regulation for prior svc.. if you have 5 year break in svc you can skip basic..

Response by Ellen Pope made Feb 24 at 2020 10:35 PM

Ellen Pope — Mon, 24 Feb 2020 22:35:24 -0500

From all these comments I can see that the Army is still full of quasi-illiterates and other misc. low-lives, not much hass changed. We had a Korean in my unit, spoke almost no English, didn't even know how to drive. (ran a STOP sign and almost got us killed), and he made E-6 (from E-4) within ONE year in Korea. That's when I knew I had to get out, that this Army promotes the wrong people. It's not a merit system, which is what it should be. No wonder we are still in places like Afghanistan after 18 years; who can win a war with all these idiots?

Response by SPC John Tacetta made Feb 25 at 2020 1:26 AM

SPC John Tacetta — Tue, 25 Feb 2020 01:26:51 -0500

When I was in, prior service members were segregated into classes apart from "raw" recruits. So, you're not likely to be an anomaly in your class. Besides, I was always under the impression that all official awards were required to be worn on the uniform, at least in garrison, with the only option being if you had more than one combat patch (e.g., 3rd ID and 4th ID), then you wore the one of your choice. Never saw a ribbon rack on fatigues. I wouldn't worry about catching shit - you will, regardless.

Response by MSgt Scott Gaston made Feb 25 at 2020 1:55 AM

MSgt Scott Gaston — Tue, 25 Feb 2020 01:55:21 -0500

I can't answer that question for the Army, but in the Air Force you wear what you've earned or you'll be out of uniform. Don't :However wear anything you haven't earned yet. Personnel will already have a copy of earned medal/Ribbons. Easily explained if your prior service as long as they are authorized on an Army uniform. Probably a good Idea to ask your recruiter as most training is meant to learn to be a team of equals accomplishing tasks as equal individuals. Basic for instance is meant to break everyone down and build them up accomplishing tasks together In hind sight I may have caused more confusion, but my Son was 10th Mountain, I was career Air Force,.

Response by Maj Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 25 at 2020 4:44 AM

Maj Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 25 Feb 2020 04:44:44 -0500

Good question which I see got allot of response. I have been in the Navy, Army Guard, Air Guard and was eventually commissioned. After over 26 years in the service, I see both sides points. I think you should wait until the end and put them on if you were going to a graduation ceremony. Most Drill Sgt's are keen in picking up on who has their stuff together and who doesn't. You did earn them and you can wear them, it seems to be best to be humble whenever possible is a good rule.

Response by SSG Lonny Self made Feb 25 at 2020 10:27 AM

SSG Lonny Self — Tue, 25 Feb 2020 10:27:27 -0500

bring the orders and a copy of dd214 first off second yes wear them or you will be out of uniform and that is a bigger issue then some snot nose asking questions witch you reply with it is a learning experience and things change fast

Response by SFC Johnny Robertson made Feb 25 at 2020 10:56 AM

SFC Johnny Robertson — Tue, 25 Feb 2020 10:56:36 -0500

I suggest waiting until you get to your first duty station, then hit clothing and sales....

Response by Sgt Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 25 at 2020 2:54 PM

Sgt Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 25 Feb 2020 14:54:08 -0500

Yes buy your shit and wear it. I had to go to prior service BCT as-well. So yes definitely bring what you rate with you. You won’t get shit for it as the DS will know you’re prior service.

Response by SFC Carlos Gamino made Feb 25 at 2020 4:14 PM

SFC Carlos Gamino — Tue, 25 Feb 2020 16:14:10 -0500

You should buy them anyways, you need to have them inspection ready at all times. Time to fit in your big boy pants, just like your manhood, no one can take that away. Your awards, you earned them? How about pride and respect. Start thinking as a mature soldier, NCO.

Response by PVT Robert Cameron made Feb 26 at 2020 12:20 AM

PVT Robert Cameron — Wed, 26 Feb 2020 00:20:52 -0500

Be honest and be proud of what you earned.

Response by SPC Scott Hulslander made Feb 26 at 2020 10:17 AM

SPC Scott Hulslander — Wed, 26 Feb 2020 10:17:34 -0500

I don't think it would be worth the trouble that it will bring. When I enlisted I ended up with pinpoint orders to 18th FA after BCT and AIT. I don't know how it happened but at reception I ended up being issued BDUs and field jackets with the unit patch, with Airborne tab just for good measure, already sewn on.
I roll on over to start BCT at 1-40 FA at Ft. Sill and wouldn't you know it, a DS is from that unit. He ripped me from the first second he saw that patch. I got a hold of a sewing kit as soon as possible and made quick use of the seam ripper and proceeded to do my very best to melt back into the population.

Response by SFC Dave Nutter made Feb 26 at 2020 12:58 PM

SFC Dave Nutter — Wed, 26 Feb 2020 12:58:53 -0500

I went through bct in 1973 with several prior svc viet nam vets. They wore their awards and i dont see a reason not to. Our DS thst had an NDSM tried to tell one of them he could not. Resulted in a long private discussion and the vet wearing his awards

Response by John H Green Jr made Feb 26 at 2020 1:40 PM

John H Green Jr — Wed, 26 Feb 2020 13:40:39 -0500

When I was a company XO in combat medic AIT we had a guy PV2 with a bunch of prior service chest candy. Your DIs will find out who you are. Wear them, you earned them.

Response by 1SG Wayne Cannon made Feb 26 at 2020 5:36 PM

1SG Wayne Cannon — Wed, 26 Feb 2020 17:36:00 -0500

If they were awarded to you on orders, and it's already put in your records at the meps station. I'd say yes. Because how much of BTC are you going back to and why. Whats the rank your coming back in with. I saw a guy only go back for rifle training. So the rest of the time he worked with the Drill Sergeants. Only if they are in your personnel records to start with. You earned them be proud of them. Have a copy of that page of your awards and prior service records just in case. We had guys in AIT UNITtried to where his daddys navy ribbons.

Response by CPT Mike Sims made Feb 26 at 2020 6:00 PM

CPT Mike Sims — Wed, 26 Feb 2020 18:00:31 -0500

I would withhold putting them on or bringing them until the day before graduation. Order them or buy then at the PX at least 2 weeks out, or put them together now and have your family mail them to you 10 days before graduation. Also, make sure you have your DD-214 with you on graduation morning - as the Drill Sergeant will be surprised, he may also challenge you to the validity. If you have a combat patch / metal badge - bring them... they may not be readily available. Just know, the DS will likely know your background upon or shortly after arrival. Be humble, and be ready to coach the other younger troops (careful not to contradict the DS) and most certainly be ready to fulfill leadership roles - especially in the absence of the DS. The key here is your stuff has to be squared away all the time and the DS is going to expect you to be the standard bearer in professionalism and preparedness, as such he will stack on adminiatrative tasks to assist him... that means you need to get other squared away and mature guys to help you run the platoon. The more you guys can be prepared and anticipate the DS needs and the quicker you guys can operate as a team and not so much as individuals - then the DS will dedicate more of his time to training you guys - and less time "harassing" or disciplining your platoon. This means after training - free time is your time, but use it to prepare for the next day, keep the barracks squared away, and work with the guys who are struggling with PT / Academic phases of training or Soldier Skills (Drill and Ceremony, Marksmanship techniques, CBRNE drills, Employ and Recover Claymore Mines, First Aid, SALUTE Reports, Vehicle / Aircraft Recognition). Last but not least... Accountability - know where your troops are and there status (sick call, KP, CQ duty, etx.) at all times!!! And maintain 100% accountability of all Sensitive Items (weapons, NVGs, etc) and Mission Essential Equipment (First Aid Kits, EPI Pens - if someone has an allergy), and of course - Dog Tags and ID cards... 100% accountable at all times. Do these things and then on graduation day - shine like the stud you are with all your awards on your chest. Good luck and God Bless and thank you for your loyal and faithful continued service to our nation!

Response by SSG James Harlow made Feb 26 at 2020 9:40 PM

SSG James Harlow — Wed, 26 Feb 2020 21:40:00 -0500

Your drills are going to know you are prior service. When it is time for ASU they are going to expect you to in full uniform. Wearing all awards and decorations you are eligible to wear.

Response by LCpl Andrew Montoya made Feb 26 at 2020 10:31 PM

LCpl Andrew Montoya — Wed, 26 Feb 2020 22:31:12 -0500

Take them and wear them. You earned them and you rate them. Wont be a big deal. When I was in boot, we had a prior service army in our series. He wore all his awards and it was no big deal. PFC with 3 rows.

Response by SPC Stuart Campbell made Feb 27 at 2020 4:16 AM

SPC Stuart Campbell — Thu, 27 Feb 2020 04:16:14 -0500

It's okay to purchase what you will be in advance but don't wear an award or rank before it's officially what you are...paperwork being what it is Let It Happen!!!

Response by SSG Bobby Richardson made Feb 27 at 2020 11:10 AM

SSG Bobby Richardson — Thu, 27 Feb 2020 11:10:15 -0500

If I remember my BCT correctly, there were only a couple of opportunities to wear Class A's anyway; though much may have changed since 1974. One thing I'd be careful of in wearing them is being seen to outshine the BCT Cadre; or even worse, being seen as *trying* to outshine them. The "I really *do* know more than the instructors." problem.

If it were me, I'd bring all the awards for which I was authorized, but then 'read the room'; i.e., find a receptive member of cadre and ask "Should I wear all of these, or dial it back for (x) reason?"

And good luck!

Response by SFC Rollie Hubbard made Feb 27 at 2020 5:48 PM

SFC Rollie Hubbard — Thu, 27 Feb 2020 17:48:25 -0500

You were adwarded them I say wear them

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 28 at 2020 11:13 AM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 28 Feb 2020 11:13:37 -0500

I agree with everyone that has recommended waiting. I doubt someone in the S-1 section of the Battalion at BCT will take time out of their busy day to pull up the Reg for you and let you know in what order the ribbons are suppose to be. I didn't go to Army BCT, but if it was like the Marine Corps Boot Camp, I didn't take anything passed recieving, besides my ID's. There's no guarantee they'll let you take the rack and ribbons with you to the barracks. And like one other mentioned, you Will attract unwanted attention if they catch you with ribbons prior to when they tell you to have them. Make sure your prior awards show in your ARB.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 28 at 2020 9:22 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 28 Feb 2020 21:22:44 -0500

When I went decades ago the prior service guys were treated completely different, they were not ran through the ringer like everyone else and primarily only showed up to complete certain tasks in the field and on ranges to complete their required training. It was more like an MOS change.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 29 at 2020 6:28 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 29 Feb 2020 18:28:01 -0500

Absolutely my man! Forget all the Nancies and Karens in this thread. If you earned them, wear them! With pride. It will look great for your class picture.

Response by CPL Joseph Elinger made Mar 1 at 2020 8:50 PM

CPL Joseph Elinger — Sun, 01 Mar 2020 20:50:25 -0500

I also went in *Prior Service for BCT.
Yes.
You should purchase them.
During BCT you will have a Dress Greens Uniform Inspection.
A LtC did ours.
Yes, he did ask about previous awards etc.
1) You earned it, you wear it.
2) It looks good for Inspections.
Other than that, try to keep a "low profile."
Remember, most of your fellow trainees / recruits are recent Civilians, & in most cases, not the brightest of sorts.
My limited experience;
ROTC Basic (summer) 1980,
13B OSUT 1983,
BTC 1996 ( I turned 36 half way through BCT) / LOL!

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 2 at 2020 8:30 AM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 02 Mar 2020 08:30:07 -0500

Take advice from me , I just came off the trail, even though you earned it. Dont purchase them now prior to BCT do it later. Your locker will probably be tossed around your bags definitely. You will be just wasting money, you will have sufficient time prior to graduating to get them

Response by SFC Allen Murphy made Mar 4 at 2020 10:02 AM

SFC Allen Murphy — Wed, 04 Mar 2020 10:02:15 -0500

Yes.

Response by SFC Carlos Cherry made Mar 4 at 2020 10:16 AM

SFC Carlos Cherry — Wed, 04 Mar 2020 10:16:36 -0500

Yes, bring them. Good chance you might not get to wear them while in BCT, but have them just in case.

Response by SGT Sidney LePree made Mar 6 at 2020 8:19 PM

SGT Sidney LePree — Fri, 06 Mar 2020 20:19:02 -0500

It’s yours..

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 8 at 2020 11:05 PM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 08 Mar 2020 23:05:32 -0400

I do believed you earned them wear them but I would wait at least until graduation to put them on. I wouldnt even bring it up till all your training is complete. I ended up doing the same thing it and was so much better to act like a newbie.

Response by TSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 10 at 2020 11:59 AM

TSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 10 Mar 2020 11:59:32 -0400

Having been through almost exactly this situation recently, yes. I only had 1 DS try to give me a hard time about it, and I ignored her. If you served in a different branch you will definitely want to, because the PX will pretty much only have that services awards in stock. It was actually pretty entertaining to me to watch Drill Sergeants do a double take and mouth WTF when they saw my awards and service/overseas stripes. Also, depending on when you went through Basic, and with which service, BCT is a joke these days. I went through USAF basic in 2003, and Army basic in 2016 felt like a sham. That spoke volumes to me.

Response by SSG Shawn Mcfadden made Mar 18 at 2020 10:03 AM

SSG Shawn Mcfadden — Wed, 18 Mar 2020 10:03:08 -0400

If there documented, WEAR THEM!

Response by TSgt George Austin made Mar 26 at 2020 12:02 AM

TSgt George Austin — Thu, 26 Mar 2020 00:02:13 -0400

why are you going to BCT instead of AIT? If you really are going to basic I would suggest you wait and see. i was prior service and was not allowed y dec's to show during training at tech school. That ws then ans this is now, but....

Response by SFC Carlos Gamino made Mar 26 at 2020 4:19 PM

SFC Carlos Gamino — Thu, 26 Mar 2020 16:19:27 -0400

To answer your question, yes you can pre purchase, who can hold you back from doing so?

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 26 at 2020 7:12 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 26 Mar 2020 19:12:23 -0400

Yeah go for it. Just make sure you don't bring anything that isn't on your DD 214. Prior service member get some deference, but until they see your DD 214 they won't know what to issue. Just keep a certified copy handy and bring your rack with you.

Response by CPT Gurinder (Gene) Rana made Mar 27 at 2020 5:53 AM

CPT Gurinder (Gene) Rana — Fri, 27 Mar 2020 05:53:31 -0400

SPC Private RallyPoint Member, as stated by MAJ Byron Oyler and others, you do not want to attract attention from the Drill Sergeants. The best is to leave your authorized awards till you graduate BCT or till you report to your first duty station. This is our advice. However, if our advice doesn't satisfy you then, 1SG Anonymous has given you the alternative. Best of luck.

Response by CW3 Art Farash made Mar 27 at 2020 10:10 PM

CW3 Art Farash — Fri, 27 Mar 2020 22:10:08 -0400

You can wear any awards shown on your prior serviee. Both times I went to nasic there was a former WW II Polish soldier who was able to wear his ribbons as long as he had the NDSM ribbon.

Response by SSG David Kaelin made Mar 27 at 2020 11:04 PM

SSG David Kaelin — Fri, 27 Mar 2020 23:04:58 -0400

Technically, if you aren't wearing them, you are out of uniform.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 28 at 2020 12:19 AM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 28 Mar 2020 00:19:23 -0400

If you earned it, wear it.

Response by CH (MAJ) Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 28 at 2020 8:28 AM

CH (MAJ) Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 28 Mar 2020 08:28:03 -0400

From S1Net: Bring your DD214. Put together an “I love me” book with your certificates, award orders, AERs, etc. You will have to process through the S1 first. This may occur after basic training. If you are coming in from another branch of service, some awards/decorations do not transfer over. For example, an Air Force Training Ribbon cannot be worn on another service branch’s uniform (Space Force is still working on those issues with the Institute of Heraldry). An Air Force Overseas Ribbon (long or short tour) cannot be transferred nor switched to the Army Overseas Service Ribbon. The S1 can assist you on it and the individual service regulations on their awards and uniforms will provide the answers.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 28 at 2020 9:43 AM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 28 Mar 2020 09:43:33 -0400

Last thing I would do in basic training would be to try to show off and be a cool guy. Really no need to impress anyone there, I'd save all that till I got to my unit.

Response by MSG Roy Cheever made Mar 28 at 2020 2:26 PM

MSG Roy Cheever — Sat, 28 Mar 2020 14:26:00 -0400

Indeed! All awards and schools as listed on your last DD 214 form.

Response by MSG Michael Gay made Mar 28 at 2020 2:37 PM

MSG Michael Gay — Sat, 28 Mar 2020 14:37:51 -0400

Purchase them after you arrive!

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 29 at 2020 10:35 AM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 29 Mar 2020 10:35:54 -0400

If you've been awarded them, then you should be wearing them on the appropriate uniforms. Like others have said, bring your documentation for the awards, in case someone tries to argue, and make sure your recruiter has all your records verified in iPerms. My cousin transferred from Navy to Army, he didn't wear any of his stuff until his Blueing ceremony (Infantry), but then he had everything on his uniform (and all the trash talkers got shut down). When you get your service uniform fitted, make sure the alterations staff know what you have that needs to be sewn on.

Response by SFC Donald Souza made Mar 29 at 2020 6:09 PM

SFC Donald Souza — Sun, 29 Mar 2020 18:09:35 -0400

Your going to BCT as prior service and all your concerned about is your ribbons, I say check your priorities

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 29 at 2020 8:35 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 29 Mar 2020 20:35:10 -0400

Prior service myself (Navy), and just graduated BCT this past June. If you earned them, you are authorized to wear them. That being said, some Drill’s may exercise their “judgement” and not allow the wear of any pins (i.e. CIB, etc). Graduation is the only time you would have the opportunity to wear ribbons. Most of the DS’s I ran into were pretty accommodating to Prior Service, and making a run to cash-sales to get any missing items.
Whatever you decide to bring, make sure that you have copies of the certificates awarding them. Most of the ones I talked to are hesitant/won’t allow wearing if you can’t show proof of award.

Response by CPT Paul Whitmer made Mar 29 at 2020 9:21 PM

CPT Paul Whitmer — Sun, 29 Mar 2020 21:21:17 -0400

I didn't have anything to wear at Basic/AIT but - I did when I went to OCS 8 years later. We were not allowed to wear anything on our uniforms (awards, tabs, wings, combat patch, etc) until after graduation from OCS.

Response by SFC Frankie Rivera made Mar 30 at 2020 3:01 PM

SFC Frankie Rivera — Mon, 30 Mar 2020 15:01:40 -0400

When I returned to BCT, the Senior Drill Instructor took me to Clothing Sales, and I purchased my ribbons then.

Response by SFC Frankie Rivera made Mar 30 at 2020 3:03 PM

SFC Frankie Rivera — Mon, 30 Mar 2020 15:03:14 -0400

When I returned to BCT, the Senior Drill Instructor took me to Clothing Sales and I purchased then. The reason is because sometimes they will allow you to wear all ribbons, but sometimes not.

Response by MAJ John Moran made Mar 30 at 2020 10:54 PM

MAJ John Moran — Mon, 30 Mar 2020 22:54:13 -0400

You can bring them. I wouldn’t put anything on your uniform until graduation. You do not want to do anything that draws attention to yourself in BCT.

And make sure you have your documentation for any awards you put on your uniform.

Be aware not all ribbons and devices from other services can be worn on Army uniforms.

Example: Air Force MOS badges, if memory serves, are not authorized for wear on Army uniforms.

Navy/Coast Guard marksmanship ribbons are not authorized on Army uniforms.

Marine marksmanship badges are not authorized on Army Uniforms.

Response by CPL Jeremy Glenn made Apr 3 at 2020 11:20 AM

CPL Jeremy Glenn — Fri, 03 Apr 2020 11:20:35 -0400

...no.

Response by CPL Jeremy Glenn made Apr 3 at 2020 11:21 AM

CPL Jeremy Glenn — Fri, 03 Apr 2020 11:21:22 -0400

Actually go ahead. Your drills will have a lot of fun pulling that stuff off your ACU’s.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 3 at 2020 1:06 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 03 Apr 2020 13:06:29 -0400

Not sure now but back when I went thru you were not allowed any of that stuff on your uniform, until AIT, heck those of us the had rank already were not allowed to were rank either.

Response by SFC James High made Apr 6 at 2020 10:47 AM

SFC James High — Mon, 06 Apr 2020 10:47:51 -0400

You have every right to wear what you have earned. If using Rack Builder then I would say yes go ahead and get it ordered and have it ready for wear. However, anything that you can't get from them you might want to wait until you are drawing that Military pay & access to the Clothing Sales store. Be sure to have extra copies of your DD 214 in case you run into one of those DSGTs that gets off on the power.

Response by SFC James High made Apr 6 at 2020 10:55 AM

SFC James High — Mon, 06 Apr 2020 10:55:12 -0400

I would say yes. Because you are PS Army your BCT won't last very long so it would be the right thing to do. But, if you are PS Army why do you have to go thru BCT again?

Response by SSG James Mielke made Apr 16 at 2020 3:25 PM

SSG James Mielke — Thu, 16 Apr 2020 15:25:15 -0400

You earned them, Fucikin' A you wear them. Just make damn sure you have copies of your discharge orders, DD214, and the orders for the awards available because there will always be some SOB that will bent out of shape because you have more ribbons than they do. Drill Sergeants/Instructors do not have time to rummage through your file looking for themselves.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 27 at 2020 3:35 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 27 Apr 2020 15:35:00 -0400

I would wait until it’s on your SRB...I had to do BCT as well as a prior service member coming from another branch.

Response by Robert Janisse made Apr 28 at 2020 9:44 AM

Robert Janisse — Tue, 28 Apr 2020 09:44:51 -0400

Unless you wanted to attract attention of the DI's, you shouldn't wear them. One, it can be taken as boastful, which wouldn't endear you to your platoon mates; 2, it would make tou a target of the DI's because it shows you should already know things. Unles you're Mr. BoyScout Clean-Marine, there's probably a lot you've forgotten, or shortcuts you've learned that work in the field but don't pass muster at BCT.
Just wait until AIT.

Response by Col Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 28 at 2020 1:20 PM

Col Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 28 Apr 2020 13:20:48 -0400

I'd hold off, too. What if your instructor(s) are REMFs and are jealous of what you already have? Maybe have them ready and have family or friends ship to you in time to set up after graduation.

Response by MAJ Gregory Moon made Apr 28 at 2020 3:35 PM

MAJ Gregory Moon — Tue, 28 Apr 2020 15:35:21 -0400

I was a BCT company commander(Maybe before you were born) Since most of your 8 weeks will be in something other than dress just save it. When you get issued your new dress. Then start collecting you stuff at clothing sales. Have a good clean looking DD214 to back you up. You've been there before and might remember there's no heat like a DS getting ready to smoke you. So ask just before graduation. Chances are the Drills will have an idea who's prior service or just older and possibly more mature so your situation may come out before then that way they will help you instead of smoking you.

Response by SFC (Retired) Efrain Hernandez made Apr 29 at 2020 12:40 PM

SFC (Retired) Efrain Hernandez — Wed, 29 Apr 2020 12:40:52 -0400

You should be ready to wear uniform within regulations of AR670-1 at all times. Active, reserve, retired. so I would say yes take them with you so you are not told you are out of uniform. Just my thoughts!

Response by CPL David Schmutz made Apr 29 at 2020 2:13 PM

CPL David Schmutz — Wed, 29 Apr 2020 14:13:11 -0400

My dad went back to basic as a Vietnam vet at 35. He wore his combat patch and his ribbons on class a’s. They made him a squad leader and of course the drills had fun with him. Your choice if you’re authorized. Ultimately, enjoy the whole experience.

Response by SFC Jeremy Boyd made Apr 29 at 2020 3:30 PM

SFC Jeremy Boyd — Wed, 29 Apr 2020 15:30:23 -0400

This is probably too late to make a difference if you've already gone back to BCT, but I say bring what you've earned, with your DD214 in hand as proof. The one thing I would shy away from buying and bringing are any ARNG state specific awards, because those aren't authorized for wear outside of your state's ARNG units. Since your BCT unit is entirely an Active Duty Army unit, just bring the federal awards, badges, tabs, patches, etc.

Response by CPL Shayne Sanchez made Apr 29 at 2020 6:21 PM

CPL Shayne Sanchez — Wed, 29 Apr 2020 18:21:39 -0400

Hell yeah......Wait till graduation to wear all your ribbons. The boots will trip.

Response by SFC Randy Hellenbrand made Apr 29 at 2020 7:34 PM

SFC Randy Hellenbrand — Wed, 29 Apr 2020 19:34:42 -0400

Uncle Same gave them to you, you shouldn't of lost them.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 30 at 2020 6:25 AM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 30 Apr 2020 06:25:59 -0400

You can buy those ribbons and whatnot when you get to AIT or after graduation (or have someone mail you your old rack). The last thing you want to do is draw attention before actually proving yourself to the Drills. They normally know or will ask who is prior service or who is the oldest... Sometimes this works in a person's favor and sometimes it backfires if they don't know (or remember) certain parts of military training. It's like showing up in ACUs/OCPs with specialty school patches from back in the day yet now being out of shape. You don't want to be that person....

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 30 at 2020 8:03 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 30 Apr 2020 08:03:17 -0400

I am pretty sure you already knew that answer, if it is on your 214 from prior service, then you can and should wear them - proudly. I am sure your Drill Sergeant will know you are prior and will ask where they are if you don't have them on the ASU. Include service stripes and combat stripes - and badge. one caveat,
At BCT everyone is to be looking the same. You may have to wait it out at BCT but allowed to wear at AIT.

Response by SPC Tom Regan made Apr 30 at 2020 8:12 AM

SPC Tom Regan — Thu, 30 Apr 2020 08:12:42 -0400

No. If you have already earned them. Always be ahead of the game by buying your own. But... don't purchase any ribbons or

Response by SGT Jody Beach made Apr 30 at 2020 12:55 PM

SGT Jody Beach — Thu, 30 Apr 2020 12:55:11 -0400

I agree with both wearing and not wearing them. While wearing them will make people thank you got busted it will also make you a target. DI will more than likely not read your file and know your prior service. Use your previous experience to rise to the top with out special attention.... Like it is said ... Lead, Follow, or get the Fuck outta the way.... Be a leader and help those first timers better understand what they are doing and why....

Response by SSG Rick Miller made Apr 30 at 2020 2:12 PM

SSG Rick Miller — Thu, 30 Apr 2020 14:12:39 -0400

You got them, wear them. I had a break in service, too. Went to AIT with service stripes, ribbons, right shoulder patch and combat bar, all as a PV2. If asked, my answer was two, and only two words. Prior service. Done.

Response by SPC Steven Nihipali made Apr 30 at 2020 2:45 PM

SPC Steven Nihipali — Thu, 30 Apr 2020 14:45:51 -0400

Bring them, don't wear them... Instructors are gonna know you're prior anyway, so be prepared to be the guy they fuck with lol

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made May 1 at 2020 12:34 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 01 May 2020 00:34:05 -0400

First...why are you an E2?
Second, you won't wear ASUs until the end, so it is kind of a moot point.
Third.....of anyone tells you the NCOs there won't know exactly who you are, they are lying or sadly misinformed.
But, yes, bring all that and have it put on.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made May 1 at 2020 4:35 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 01 May 2020 16:35:49 -0400

Hi! I was in the same boat as you are. I went to BCT in 1984 on Fort McClellan., AL and then again on Fort Jackson, SC in 1999. I purchased my awards at clothing and sales while at Fort Jackson and put them on and wore them for graduation, but I guess if you can order them on Rack Builder. There may be some questions to answer by your Drill Sergeants when they see it, but you would have had to submit evidence of your service as part of the enlistment process. If possible, I would make sure that your Chain of Command knows. I wouldn't worry about it, because if it's on your DD214, there really isn't very much they can say or do about it. Take care and best of luck to you!

Response by MSgt George Fillgrove made May 2 at 2020 6:49 AM

MSgt George Fillgrove — Sat, 02 May 2020 06:49:24 -0400

No.

That could be to your disadvantage. It is better to wait and wear them at graduation.

Your question brings back memories of my own basic training and what you call AIT. I had two prior service Army with me in basic training. One was an E-5. The other was an E-4. Both individuals were decorated former combat infantrymen who followed me into Air Force Security Specialist training (basically light infantrymen skilled at airbase ground defense).

Neither of them were allowed to wear their rank in basic training or tech school for two reasons. The object at BMTS was to build teamwork, achieve proficiency and learn. It is better to show and prove your experience than go there acting like you are "a step above" the rest. Having them wear their rank would have compromised the role of the TI and could have hindered those skills that are important learn upon entry in to the Air Force.

Instead, the reality hit at graduation and they were impressive with their awards and decorations. Their status instantly and profoundly changed from basics to NCOs. They went from regular airmen to supervisors.

I got hurt in combat training -- serious enough to require a temporary profile change and re-classification. I retained the SP AFSC but ended up at the Defense Information School with a roommate who I assumed was just another slick sleeve. During a health and welfare inspection, however, the first sergeant opened my roommate's locker and discovered that he had been a combat engineer in Vietnam -- complete with an ARCOM and jump wings. He was an E-4 specialist getting along as a PVT-1 and seriously trying to learn the duties and skills of a military journalist. Instead, he was ordered to put his rank on and his duties changed to things like NCO of the Day or other things. It changed his experience. He was no longer just a student. The same could happen to you.

Besides, why go to the extra expense of purchasing things in advance when the insignia will be cheaper at the BX.

Response by SFC Donald Cook made May 2 at 2020 8:47 AM

SFC Donald Cook — Sat, 02 May 2020 08:47:09 -0400

Hell yes I did. You will be letting the Drill Instructors know they are not starting from scratch with you.

Response by LCDR Jerry Maurer made May 2 at 2020 10:27 PM

LCDR Jerry Maurer — Sat, 02 May 2020 22:27:43 -0400

If you don't wear them, you're out of uniform! Just make sure your DD-214 is in your pocket at all times

Response by SGT Daniel Neikirk made May 3 at 2020 9:29 AM

SGT Daniel Neikirk — Sun, 03 May 2020 09:29:34 -0400

If your ERB is current and shows what was earned, wear it and own it, yes the DI will hold you to a higher standard, lead those recruits show them what it takes to earn the awards.

Response by CDR Tom Davy made May 3 at 2020 3:38 PM

CDR Tom Davy — Sun, 03 May 2020 15:38:37 -0400

The Army allows for more bling than the Navy, that said, check ARMYREGS that your decorations are authorized for wear. E.g., I could not wear my Army Expect Medical Badge on my Navy uniform until I retired.

Response by SSgt Daniel d'Errico made May 3 at 2020 8:29 PM

SSgt Daniel d'Errico — Sun, 03 May 2020 20:29:02 -0400

You were prior sevice. Which service, ARMY? Then check with your division administration for the authorized wear of prior awarded devices, rank and campaign ribbons and such. You don't want your company, battalion or division swash bucklers getting upset about you getting (legally ) more chest salad than they have ever seen. ARMY Regs can always xpell out what you can wear from your prior sevice years. Qualification badges must be verified, along with hash stripes too.

Response by SPC Brandon Israel made May 3 at 2020 10:38 PM

SPC Brandon Israel — Sun, 03 May 2020 22:38:25 -0400

Y do u have too do BCT again? How long U been out? I'd wait and put all ur previous awards on ur uniform right before BCT graduation. Drills do an inspection before yall leave for it anyways.

Response by SGT Joseph Alanzo made May 4 at 2020 1:51 AM

SGT Joseph Alanzo — Mon, 04 May 2020 01:51:06 -0400

yes you will need them for they are in your personal files

Response by CW2 Private RallyPoint Member made May 4 at 2020 1:53 AM

CW2 Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 04 May 2020 01:53:41 -0400

If you're authorized to wear them, wear them. You're only going to wear them once in BCT though. I just went through myself and I wore all my awards and badges.

Response by SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth made May 4 at 2020 4:54 PM

SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth — Mon, 04 May 2020 16:54:35 -0400

I'M HOME, I would wait until after BCT and AIT to do it.

Response by 1LT Private RallyPoint Member made May 4 at 2020 5:54 PM

1LT Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 04 May 2020 17:54:56 -0400

Ok, I was Air Force the went Army. My DSG went over my NGB 22 and DD 214 and made sure I had what I needed. When it comes time to wear the ASUs, you’ll be wearing what you’re authorized. You’ll be a little different from your peers but so what.

Response by SPC Douglas Bolton made May 4 at 2020 7:11 PM

SPC Douglas Bolton — Mon, 04 May 2020 19:11:27 -0400

Edgy.

Response by Sgt Ricardo Torres made May 5 at 2020 11:11 AM

Sgt Ricardo Torres — Tue, 05 May 2020 11:11:04 -0400

If it's in your DD-214, you earned them. Therefore, wear them.

Response by CWO3 Bryan Luciani made May 5 at 2020 2:28 PM

CWO3 Bryan Luciani — Tue, 05 May 2020 14:28:13 -0400

A lot of really bad advice here along with a few good ones. BCT is not the place to say, "Look at me". Yes, you've earned the right, but this is an "understanding people issue" now. Do you want undue attention from that one or two DSs that have leadership problems themselves? We both know they are there waiting for you. Be smart, blend in, help the FNGs and stay away from the "Me" stuff the entire time you are there.

Response by SFC(P) Private RallyPoint Member made May 6 at 2020 6:48 PM

SFC(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 06 May 2020 18:48:11 -0400

why are you returning as a pv2?

Response by CPT Lawrence Cichelli made May 8 at 2020 7:58 AM

CPT Lawrence Cichelli — Fri, 08 May 2020 07:58:59 -0400

Yes by regulation you can. I recommend you carry your DD214 because they will ask. As long as it checks out, you're good. Once your DS sees that, the DIs will not mess with you as much as the others. You could also talk to your DS at the earliest opportunity about your background. Also you could suggest helping fellow Soldiers in BCT for the first time and help your DS. Just a thought.

Response by Cpl Mark Oresko made May 9 at 2020 2:08 AM

Cpl Mark Oresko — Sat, 09 May 2020 02:08:56 -0400

The only time I ever saw anything like this happen was when one of my green belt drill instructors got promoted from Staff Sergeant to Gunnery Sergeant but he didn’t wear his rank or answer to the rank until our graduation day. Our senior drill instructor (black belt) was a staff sergeant. However we had a fellow recruit who was a badass in the Army. He was a full blooded Native American named Cuts the Rope. He didn’t hide his earned awards. Everyone was well aware of his status and this dude was a true lead by example kind of hard charger. Be proud of who you are but don’t be too bold. People will not trust someone who isn’t forthcoming in regards to their history. Not disclosing that information might seem like your being dishonest. Good luck with whatever happens.

Response by Ellen Pope made May 12 at 2020 11:18 PM

Ellen Pope — Tue, 12 May 2020 23:18:06 -0400

Prior service or not, the important thing to always remember is that it's the military, troops should be in super shape at all times, because you never know when they will be deployed. I always maxed my PT scores, the male version, and could never figure out why people who don't like to exercise/run/do pushups/situps even want to stay on active duty in the first place. The physical challenges were one of the best aspects of being in the military, for me anyway.

Response by SFC Joseph Behmke made May 24 at 2020 5:28 PM

SFC Joseph Behmke — Sun, 24 May 2020 17:28:29 -0400

Either way I would acquire the awards your authorized to wear ahead of time. I recommend you apply for a AAFES STAR Card (Online). It has two sides: One side is for purchases at any BX/PX, PX Gas Station as well as most vendor's in and around a Post/Base including the Commissary. It carries an interest rate of 7.5-10.5% for most soldiers. the other side is for soldiers on Active Duty, AR & NG to buy issue items from Clothing Sales (Also Online) at 0% Interest but a minimum monthly payment. It's handy if you want an extra set or two of fatigues and caps to wear while others are getting washed or in the cleaners. Anything you buy in Clothing Sales Store can go on the 0% interest side. They carry other military related clothing, Boot Maintenance, T-Shirts, lighters, watches, Name Tag's and more. Use it wisely; don't over spend! Pass this along to others as well.

Response by MAJ Rick Howard made May 31 at 2020 1:27 PM

MAJ Rick Howard — Sun, 31 May 2020 13:27:49 -0400

When I went to Basic I was an E-3, but never wore my stripes. Those that did were ridiculed by the Drill Sergeants. So, no look like the rest of the trainees. Unless you want to be the permanent squad leader.

Response by SFC David Pope, MBA made May 31 at 2020 1:32 PM

SFC David Pope, MBA — Sun, 31 May 2020 13:32:19 -0400

When I was in boot camp, we had a guy in the cycle ahead of us that was wearing PFC. we watched their class A inspection the day before they graduated. This guy was a Vietnam combat vet. He had a Purple Heart, Silver Star, Bronze Star with cluster, CIB, and four rows of salad on his chest. Our BC recognized him, and had him stand with him during the open ranks inspection. They were in the same combat unit 10 years before. After inspection the BC the promoted the guy to SFC and released him from his training unit. The guy was going back to the Colorado National Guard. He was a SFC when he left active duty in 1975, and only needed 5 years for retirement. He had been asked to go back as an AGR Readiness NCO in a SF unit. Forgot to mention he was SF tabbed and a former DS. One week prior to his graduation, one of his DS who was a SSG jumped in his face and was giving him crap about his prior service trying to get a reaction out of him. I mean it was bad. He didn’t put any of his badges on until the day before graduation. I got to talk to him one day while doing laundry. The guy never told anyone about his past. Nobody in his platoon even knew anything until the day before graduation other than he was prior service. A lot of jaws dropped that day!

Response by 1SG Clifford Barnes made May 31 at 2020 9:38 PM

1SG Clifford Barnes — Sun, 31 May 2020 21:38:46 -0400

I would not wear them just be like all the other BCT soldiers there. You don’t have any thing to prove

Response by SPC Vic Lusby made May 31 at 2020 10:32 PM

SPC Vic Lusby — Sun, 31 May 2020 22:32:42 -0400

Those of us that were prior waited until graduation, Shocked the hell out of a drill from another platoon that had been giving us hell the whole time, We were standing there with all of our bling, while he had 3 ribbons lol

Response by MAJ Bob Firth made Jun 2 at 2020 10:13 AM

MAJ Bob Firth — Tue, 02 Jun 2020 10:13:27 -0400

Absolutely. I would wear them at the first opportunity. You drills will be impressed and probably make you a squad leader.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 2 at 2020 6:04 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 02 Jun 2020 18:04:09 -0400

This is an if you do answer. We (the Drill Sergeants) will already know you are prior service. So me as a drill would not be upset with you if you did as you will have to get them anyway before graduation. Just make sure you bring proof (DD214, ERB)

Response by SFC Dana Houston made Jun 3 at 2020 11:22 PM

SFC Dana Houston — Wed, 03 Jun 2020 23:22:38 -0400

It can gain you unwanted attention, or much respect! Because your drills will know that you been there, and done that.

Personally, I would wear all that I have earned!

Response by PFC Darleen Stowell made Jun 4 at 2020 12:40 AM

PFC Darleen Stowell — Thu, 04 Jun 2020 00:40:20 -0400

When I was in the Army, if you were out 5 yrs+ you had to repeat BCT. I pray u can skip it. Best of luck soldier!
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Response by CPT Wilbur Harris made Jun 4 at 2020 3:25 AM

CPT Wilbur Harris — Thu, 04 Jun 2020 03:25:10 -0400

No. Wait until you are assigned to a unit or another school. When I was an enlisted man I had very little chance to wear any medals. Award for Marksmanship and little else. As an officer, I only wore everything I was authorized to wear on one occasion and that was a very special circumstance in Viet Nam that I attended as a Commander.

Response by MSG Stan Rollins made Jun 4 at 2020 10:07 AM

MSG Stan Rollins — Thu, 04 Jun 2020 10:07:21 -0400

I did the same thing. I got out as a E5, spent 3 years in Germany, 2 years with 101st, went to 7th Army NCO Academy. I enlisted again 3 years later. Entered as a E3, went to Ft Knox for AIT. I did not have to go to Basic again. I wore all my medals I wore authorized and had my DD214 to prove it. The DI questioned me and I gave him a copy of my DD214. Air Assault badge, Expert Marksman, over seas ribbon, NCO ribbon, National Defense Ribbon, and the German expert Schützenschnur. Have a copy of your DD214 and wear your awards proudly, "You earned them".
You will not be the only prior service soldier there and earned the respect. Good luck.

Response by CW3 Michael Clifford made Jun 7 at 2020 9:31 PM

CW3 Michael Clifford — Sun, 07 Jun 2020 21:31:25 -0400

Hold off until after you graduate BCT. You’ll stand inspection before graduation from BCT. Save yourself on a verbal beatdown having the ribbons in the wrong order or a drill sergeant questioning you why you have a Purple Heart.

Response by SSG Dave Johnston made Jun 8 at 2020 1:02 AM

SSG Dave Johnston — Mon, 08 Jun 2020 01:02:37 -0400

How long between service dates? Colorado NG two week drill could be used as a refresher for D&C, weapons qual, and AFPT,

Response by SGT Trip Heaverly made Jun 8 at 2020 1:25 PM

SGT Trip Heaverly — Mon, 08 Jun 2020 13:25:30 -0400

Who gives a shit what your drill sergeants think? Are you scared of a little extra love over the course of the couple of weeks you’ll be spending at basic training? If you’re going back in, I’m assuming you are proud of your service. Don’t be a sissy, wear your ribbons if you want. Basic is short but pride is eternal.

Response by SGT Jeff Bush made Jun 10 at 2020 11:04 PM

SGT Jeff Bush — Wed, 10 Jun 2020 23:04:09 -0400

I agree with prior comments: If the awards aren’t already on your DD214 or ERB, then make a copy of your award orders and take them to your S1 and get them added to your ERB before you rock them. If they are on either your DD214 or ERB then carry those on you at all times and go ahead and wear them. If you get “shark attacked” at BCT, come to the position of attention, snap to ‘at ease’ and address the drill sergeant stating you are prior service and have orders. You’ll find per the regs they will know them inside and out and you’ll be fine.

Response by SFC Wilfredo Ramos made Jun 28 at 2020 9:39 PM

SFC Wilfredo Ramos — Sun, 28 Jun 2020 21:39:34 -0400

AR 670-1 "Unless directed by a commander per paragraph 20–2a, authorized awards are worn at the option of the wearer". It is your choice if you want to use them or not. If you earned them and you have proof of it, I would use them in your case. When I went to basic I had 2 ribbons that I earned while I was at the english language school and whenever I used class A or B I wore them I was never questioned.

Response by SFC Brian Death from Within made Jul 7 at 2020 8:18 AM

SFC Brian Death from Within — Tue, 07 Jul 2020 08:18:24 -0400

Ah, No. They will give you all the ribbons you have earned and qualified to wear.

Response by CPO Dale Dietzman made Jul 7 at 2020 3:42 PM

CPO Dale Dietzman — Tue, 07 Jul 2020 15:42:49 -0400

I don't know if regs have changed, or if other services were the same, but in the Navy you were required to wear your five highest decorations/service medals ribbons with dress uniform. Of course, wearing all of them was your option. I remember seeing pictures of Ike, as a 5-Star, with only two ribbons on his uniform, FWIW.

Response by 1LT Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 8 at 2020 12:29 PM

1LT Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 08 Jul 2020 12:29:11 -0400

Maintain a low profile until either brought up by your Drill Sgt/Sr Field Leader or graduation day. Wear them all with pride on graduation day. Have a copy of your most recent discharge with you in case someone challenges you on the spot and tries to call you a PX ranger. HOOAH and congrats on going back into service! I hope you get the waiver!

Response by SSG Timothy McCoy made Jul 8 at 2020 6:14 PM

SSG Timothy McCoy — Wed, 08 Jul 2020 18:14:40 -0400

As a retread myself, with four years prior service in Germany in a different MOS. You could have some unwanted professional jealousy that I experienced.
<<Ancient history alert.>>
In 1986 I had earned the German marksmanship award, the Shutzensnore, (sp), In CONUS at Ft Bliss, Tx. The DA Reg. said at a time that I did not have to have translation orders for any foreign awards received in the theater it was earned, and could be worn.
My drill Sergeant and only for ribbons and had been in for seven years. I had five or six ribbons at a time, and this form award. He thought he could bully me into not wearing it.
I said all that to say, they’re going to know your prior service and know that you have more solid to wear then the recruits. On the family weekend after basic you’ll have to have your uniform together so might as will have it all on.
Slap all fingers that are trying to to touch the award with your question of who what’s this.

HTH
Tim McCoy

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 8 at 2020 8:09 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 08 Jul 2020 20:09:01 -0400

I’m at OSUT right now as prior service. You can bring your ribbons, you’ll wear them for graduation. Most companies are good to prior service if you uphold the standard. There’s not really a chance to keep your head down as prior service, but it has its perks.

Response by CW4 Robert Mixon made Jul 8 at 2020 8:40 PM

CW4 Robert Mixon — Wed, 08 Jul 2020 20:40:20 -0400

you are required to wear ribbons on dress uniform

Response by LTC Joe Anderson made Jul 9 at 2020 2:02 PM

LTC Joe Anderson — Thu, 09 Jul 2020 14:02:40 -0400

From your updated post it sounds like you may not have to worry about this and should be able go straight to your unit. Which makes more sense to me than having to go back through basic again.

However if you do have to go back. You generally don't wear your Dress Uniform or B's during basic training anyways. No ntil the last day and and during pre inspections where the Drill SGTs want to check for fit... before letting anyone show up to graduation UNSAT. That being the case you should have a copy of your DD-214, copy of any orders you have awarding those medals, and maybe buy them off build your rack.com or the PX. This way they are ready to be display on a uniform during any inspections and at graduation. 98% of the rest the of your time at Basic will be spent in fatigues/Army Combat Uniform anyways, so it won't matter.

Response by CPT Mike Sims made Jul 11 at 2020 4:35 AM

CPT Mike Sims — Sat, 11 Jul 2020 04:35:38 -0400

Waivers are always good. Skip the entire waiver and put in for a Warrant Officer slot or seek a Commission as an Officer. Best of luck!

Response by CPT Jim Kotva made Jul 11 at 2020 10:28 AM

CPT Jim Kotva — Sat, 11 Jul 2020 10:28:37 -0400

As long as you have your DD214 to prove what you earned I would not worry about it and I would wear them proudly. Now the reason I write this is when I was in BCT in 1978 there were two prior Vietnam 11B vets in my company one in my platoon about three weeks into BCT these two got their combat patches, airborne wings, and CIB's sewn onto the BDU's. Not one DI had any heartburn with this. Our senior D.I. at the time was on leave he saw one of them Bob Huber was his name who was in my platoon shook his hand asked how he was doing. Those two where in each others squad in Vietnam the whole tour they were over there. They even had a couple of beers together on a couple of occasions toward the end of BCT.

Response by SGT Tom Middleton made Jul 12 at 2020 8:51 AM

SGT Tom Middleton — Sun, 12 Jul 2020 08:51:48 -0400

Ribbons aside, hats off for your return to continued military service and your willingness to go through BCT a second time.

Response by SGM Chris Justice made Jul 12 at 2020 10:39 AM

SGM Chris Justice — Sun, 12 Jul 2020 10:39:12 -0400

Wear them! You earned them and by regulation you wear them. As long as you have documentation and authorization To wear them it’s no one’s business including your Drill Sergeant.

Response by CW4 Conrad Brown made Jul 13 at 2020 1:11 PM

CW4 Conrad Brown — Mon, 13 Jul 2020 13:11:29 -0400

There are several reasons to wear them. First of all, if you don't, you are out of uniform. Second, if you think the 1sg and your drill sergeant won't know you are prior service, you are sorely mistaken. They will expect you step up and take a leadership role. Thirdly, the ribbons are listed on your DD214 thus you have obligation to wear them. If you are concerned about attracting attention, maybe the military is not a good fit for you.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 14 at 2020 10:43 AM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 14 Jul 2020 10:43:02 -0400

When you go to put your class A's together for graduation one of your drills will make you put on all the awards you're supposed to wear. Before that I don't think I even remember awards being talked about at all. If you show up with them in your bag the drills are immediately gonna know who you are and zero in on you like someone who already got an army tattoo.

Response by SFC Terrence Griffin made Jul 15 at 2020 4:28 PM

SFC Terrence Griffin — Wed, 15 Jul 2020 16:28:32 -0400

I never seen so many pussy responses for one damn question,maybe thats why my dumbass was in the Infantry for so long because I would wear every last damn medal I earned and my C.I.B. proudly and welcome the damn smoke,wish I would hide my awards..SHIIIITTTTT!!

Response by SGM Kenneth Stanton made Jul 17 at 2020 3:10 AM

SGM Kenneth Stanton — Fri, 17 Jul 2020 03:10:21 -0400

I would not care what attention it brings, question are you ashumed of your past service?

Response by MAJ John Douglas made Jul 17 at 2020 10:21 AM

MAJ John Douglas — Fri, 17 Jul 2020 10:21:26 -0400

I did not go to BCT but I suspect the last thing you want is extra attention from the NCOs and other trainees. I would wait on wearing the awards.

Response by SFC Terry Murphy made Jul 30 at 2020 5:53 PM

SFC Terry Murphy — Thu, 30 Jul 2020 17:53:36 -0400

When I went through basic in 1983 we had a Vietnam vet coming back in with us. He was very low key through out basic. At the end of basic the drills took him to clothing sales. He has 2 or three rows with bronze star, silver star and a couple Purple Heart medals. He told us the drills told him not to talk about his former service and that they never messed with him at all!

Response by SGT Christopher Harrison made Aug 8 at 2020 9:26 PM

SGT Christopher Harrison — Sat, 08 Aug 2020 21:26:08 -0400

I went to basic (in 1985) with two prior service Vietnam vets. On day 1 they pinned on CIB’s. They got the most painful “PT as punishment” session I have ever seen.

Response by SPC W. Neil Cantor made Aug 10 at 2020 8:30 AM

SPC W. Neil Cantor — Mon, 10 Aug 2020 08:30:00 -0400

I bet you are happy about that? If I were able and younger, I would enjoy boot camp again I think? Wonder if it has changed much since the early 70s?

Response by CPL Brandon Mihalik made Aug 10 at 2020 8:58 AM

CPL Brandon Mihalik — Mon, 10 Aug 2020 08:58:39 -0400

From my personal experience as a prior service Marine that later joined the Army and became an 11B, I would say to wear them since you earned them. I was 32 when I re-entered the military, so I was mature and experienced enough to handle the extra attention that being a Marine brought. In my case, as soon as the cadre at WTC and BCT/AIT all learned that I was a Marine, they made me the PG of each platoon, and off I went with the extra eyes on me and the weight of being immediately put into a leadership position. Long story short, I say who cares about the extra attention and possible scrutiny that your prior service ribbons bring, as it really only translates into you being pushed harder, possibly criticized more often depending on how often you do or don’t excel when compared to your non-prior service fellow trainees, and no doubt more chatter with your DS’s about what they expect from you and how well you are doing in leading the platoon to achieve the goals that they have clearly conveyed to you. Good luck, and wear them with pride from day one.

Response by SFC Rich Combs made Aug 10 at 2020 1:27 PM

SFC Rich Combs — Mon, 10 Aug 2020 13:27:03 -0400

Former DS here,
If you earned the medals, you will be required to wear them at graduation (if in fact you have to do that). Trainees do not wear the dress until graduation day. If you had a deployment, then you DS will want to ensure you have your appropriate unit patch and ribbons as well. It is rare but not u common to have prior service in the ranks. Just let your DS know in advance and you’ll be fine. Once again, lots of opinions, few experts :-)

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 11 at 2020 9:19 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 11 Aug 2020 21:19:06 -0400

AR 670-1 states that its all or none in the regulation. DA PAM 670-1 states the correct wear and when. Unless someone is asking you to put on your ASUs before the end of basic, I wouldn't say a word. But if you want to learn leadership under pressure, tell them you're prior service.

Response by SFC Cheryl McElroy US ARMY (RET) made Aug 13 at 2020 5:54 AM

SFC Cheryl McElroy US ARMY (RET) — Thu, 13 Aug 2020 05:54:14 -0400

I would wait until afterward. Doing BCT again is a bit of hell I would not want to revisit, especially with prior service ribbons.

Response by SGT Eric Knutson made Aug 16 at 2020 7:52 PM

SGT Eric Knutson — Sun, 16 Aug 2020 19:52:58 -0400

I remember going through my first time (88 FTLWMO) and had a guy, we called him Grandpa as he was right at the age limit for his states NG, he was walking around with just his mosquito wings, until the day we rolled out for first full dress inspection, he had actually brought his class A's along, (turns out he was a Vietnam Vet 3 tours, last being in 73' and he ETS'ed at that time.) first tour 101st. second, Rangers, third was SF. and he had the stacks to prove it. EVERYONE thought he was playing the PX Warrior, until 1stSgt came out, and dropped his jaw. turns out he was a Spc4 under MSG Oneill in SF. on graduation from BCT he was promoted to Sgt by the Post Commander (he had been maxing all the training with the exception of PT, but still showed well above the medium line, hey, he was twice our ages and still ran most of the Plt in the dirt)

Response by SSG Russell Busicchia made Aug 17 at 2020 2:18 PM

SSG Russell Busicchia — Mon, 17 Aug 2020 14:18:34 -0400

Everyone is missing the obvious, ask your DS. You've earned your awards, technically not wearing them is in violation of the regs. However, I can see that there mght be complications if you do. Ask your DS what you should do.

Response by SSG Ralph Watkins made Sep 22 at 2020 1:09 PM

SSG Ralph Watkins — Tue, 22 Sep 2020 13:09:43 -0400

I am an old timer before we had so many do nothing ribbons. So when I came in back in 1979 & got to AIT, we had our share of Vietnam vets. Our 1SG had the big, bold 1st Cav patch on his right sleeve. He had about 2 rows which was a fair amount back then. He spots a PFC coming in. 4 rows of ribbons with two Bronze Stars & 3 PH's. 173rd ABN patch on his right sleeve. Our 1SG had a total meltdown. It was great. The PFC had been an E-5 & did 3 tours in Vietnam with the 173rd as a LRRP. Our 1SG was a REMF (POG) with the 1st Cav. He chewed out the PFC & he smugly told the 1SG to check his records. He went to check & never came back.

Response by SGT Timothy Summers made Sep 22 at 2020 5:29 PM

SGT Timothy Summers — Tue, 22 Sep 2020 17:29:29 -0400

I went through the Warrior Transitions Course in 2006-2007. All of us were prior service from all branches, and most of us, had our prior service awards on our Dress Greens. That being said, if you had to go through BCT all over again as prior service, depending upon your rank, I wouldn't want to draw attention to myself. Not only will the DS lock in on you for being the Platoon Guide, but others who you are there with, ie; your peers, will resent you for it and see you as someone trying to get attention and crowd them out of any leadership slots that they may want. Not to mention, they may see that you think you are better than they are at soldiering,ect. and throw you under the proverbial bus whenever possible. I was in back in the 90s and we had no issues with prior service, todays' snowflake generation is no where near the same and will cry foul in a heartbeat.

Response by SP6 Greg Jetter made Sep 22 at 2020 6:03 PM

SP6 Greg Jetter — Tue, 22 Sep 2020 18:03:24 -0400

It usually depends on how long you have been out , I had a break of a year and went back active and did not have to go through Basic again , I just had to get a hair cut and show up at AIT . You can purchase all your awards on post , though to save yourself a lot of grief I would wait till you get back to your unit to wear them else every swinging dick in your chain of command will insist in seeing your orders awarding said ribbons and badges .....

Response by SGT Skyler Bagley made Sep 22 at 2020 6:21 PM

SGT Skyler Bagley — Tue, 22 Sep 2020 18:21:33 -0400

It’s highly unlikely you will be headed to “real” BCT. There is a course for prior service called “warrior refresher course” that is attached to most basic training posts. Either way I wouldn’t worry about the awards, but just a heads up, you will likely be put in a separate fast tracked course.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 24 at 2020 8:46 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 24 Sep 2020 08:46:45 -0400

Still don’t understand why you have to do BCT again. Only the prior service Navy and Air Force have to when they join army. I have a 20 year break and did not have to do basic again.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 24 at 2020 8:24 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 24 Sep 2020 20:24:13 -0400

Look, I'm a drill on the trail at fort benning. We know before the pick up who is prior service and who is not. Its not gonna matter if you have the ribbons before you ship or after. You won't get a chance to wear them until after phase 2 issue and graduation. A drill sergeant doesn't make up Army regulation, they just enforce it. If your authorized to wear those ribbons on the ASU or AGSU due to prior service, then you are authorized to wear them. If you have special qualification badges for ocps, you would be authorized to wear them, but pins will have to be removed for field training. If you do not have uniforms right now, it will be difficult to get anything sewn on. But, your records better show the authorizations, otherwise drill sergeant is going to call you on your integrity.

Response by CPT Stanley Reed made Sep 25 at 2020 4:10 PM

CPT Stanley Reed — Fri, 25 Sep 2020 16:10:57 -0400

I attended airborne school in 1998 as a CW3. I has 34 years military experience and was 50 years old. I was already in a Special Operations unit and wore the raspberry beret. I also served in RVN as a Infantry Platoon Leader, so I had a CIB along with master aviator wings, and a combat patch. I removed everything off my uniform except my name and USArmy. I wore it all when it was time for the pinning ceremony. I chose to be the "greyman".

Response by SFC Thomas Howes made Sep 25 at 2020 4:47 PM

SFC Thomas Howes — Fri, 25 Sep 2020 16:47:16 -0400

This could go to ways one you don't wear them and the drill knows you earned them and gets pissed off or you do wear them and the PVT wander why you have them. But I would talk to the drill about it. Hell he already knows your prior service so he may expect more from you then the others.

Response by MSG John Duchesneau made Sep 26 at 2020 12:59 AM

MSG John Duchesneau — Sat, 26 Sep 2020 00:59:32 -0400

I wouldn't. You don't want to stand out more than necessary in Basic - even if you have "been there and done that". Purchase what you need when it gets close to graduation time.

Full disclosure - I had the unique privilege of going through AIT as an E-7 at the age of 49 after 31 years of service in the Reserve Components - including 4 overseas tours of duty (two in Iraq). I changed MOS's and the only school I could go to was the AIT for the Regular Army. So there I was - with 60 privates fresh out of Basic and 5 other "inserts" (as we were called) from the Regular Army - 2 E-5s and 3 E4s the oldest of which was 30.

I tried to be as low key as possible and the only thing I had trouble with was PT. Anyway, when it came time for Class A inspection - I had 20 ribbons on my uniform (including 4 from the National Guard). Most of the instructors hadn't had a combat deployment and didn't have more than 10 ribbons. Needless to say, I stood out but I didn't get any harassment due to my rank and advanced age.

Response by SGT Edward Thomas made Sep 26 at 2020 11:06 PM

SGT Edward Thomas — Sat, 26 Sep 2020 23:06:59 -0400

When I was in BCT in 1984, we had a Vietnam bet going through with us. He had been in 101st Abn Div and had a CIB and basic airborne badge and several ribbons on his uniform. It never drew any undue attention to him whatsoever. Drill Sgts understand some veterans may have to do BCT again due to time you were out of the service.

Response by SPC Damon Hairston made Sep 27 at 2020 11:57 AM

SPC Damon Hairston — Sun, 27 Sep 2020 11:57:06 -0400

Keep a copy of your DD-214 on you and wear it all, you earned it.

Response by SPC Andrew Murray made Oct 18 at 2020 10:28 AM

SPC Andrew Murray — Sun, 18 Oct 2020 10:28:54 -0400

Failure to wear rank or anything else you've earned is a violation of uniform policy.

Response by SPC Donald Moore made Oct 24 at 2020 7:05 PM

SPC Donald Moore — Sat, 24 Oct 2020 19:05:36 -0400

No. Bring a copy of your DD214 and your supply person should get them for you as part of your initial issue of new uniforms. These only matter on your dress uniform, for inspection. During training, keep your head down and follow direction like everyone else or you will be singled out for either extra responsibility or extra training depending on how the DS likes your behavior so far.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 28 at 2020 5:26 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 28 Oct 2020 17:26:24 -0400

Per the regulation you have no choice but to wear them.

Response by SGT Scott Henderson made Oct 30 at 2020 8:45 AM

SGT Scott Henderson — Fri, 30 Oct 2020 08:45:17 -0400

Use your knowledge to be the grey man.

Personally i question why you're going down that road to begin with.

Response by SPC Steven Depuy made Oct 30 at 2020 12:45 PM

SPC Steven Depuy — Fri, 30 Oct 2020 12:45:23 -0400

I would not do that personally. It might give those training you an attitude towards you. Put them on after graduation, but earn the respect you get from what you do there. I realize you amended it and you don't have to go now, but that's my thoughts.

Response by SPC Westly Burgos made Oct 31 at 2020 12:29 PM

SPC Westly Burgos — Sat, 31 Oct 2020 12:29:58 -0400

I would bring them with, just in case. You may have command that could use you as an example. Since you have earned them, they could say that you are out of uniform for not having them on. No harm in asking command when getting there to eliminate confusion ahead of time.

Response by SFC Stacy Harris made Oct 31 at 2020 6:41 PM

SFC Stacy Harris — Sat, 31 Oct 2020 18:41:20 -0400

it depends on the BCT unit. i was a DS at Jackson and one cycle i had a prior service Air Force guy that didn’t make it all the way through the PJ pipeline. even so he still graduated: Airborne, HALO, and SCUBA schools. when i found out i took him to buy his awards since he didn’t have them with him. CSM saw him wearing that bling in the chow hall and made him take it off. so, i say take your stuff and then see what your DS says.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 1 at 2020 10:08 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 01 Nov 2020 10:08:29 -0500

I was in the same boat. You can either bring them with you or buy them at clothing and sales at the end of basic training. A word to the wise though. Make sure you have an old ERB or DD214 with you so you can prove you earned them. Also, prior to graduation, make sure to give your Drill Sergeant a heads up. I wore mine at graduation. Just cover your butt and you should have no problem. Good luck and thanks for your continued service!

Response by SSG Timothy Lanham made Nov 2 at 2020 12:06 AM

SSG Timothy Lanham — Mon, 02 Nov 2020 00:06:34 -0500

You should already have your awards from your former service. Make sure you take old DD214/orders for anything you take with you.

Response by SSG Jess Peters made Nov 3 at 2020 12:27 PM

SSG Jess Peters — Tue, 03 Nov 2020 12:27:21 -0500

You earned them. You should wear them.

Response by SGT Dennis May made Dec 3 at 2020 8:44 AM

SGT Dennis May — Thu, 03 Dec 2020 08:44:58 -0500

I got out as an E5 active duty in 1992 and then left NG in 1994. Went back on Active in 2001 as an E2 and did not go back through BCT.

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 3 at 2020 12:27 PM

CW3 Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 03 Dec 2020 12:27:57 -0500

I transferred from the Marine Corps to the Army. Wore all authorized ribbons and badges as an Army PFC. It was never a problem. Any attention I drew was always with respect.

Response by 1SG Ernest Oberst made Dec 3 at 2020 3:49 PM

1SG Ernest Oberst — Thu, 03 Dec 2020 15:49:12 -0500

You would be able to have all your awards and decorations issued to you. If you had to go back.

Response by PO2 Steve Miller made Dec 31 at 2020 3:49 PM

PO2 Steve Miller — Thu, 31 Dec 2020 15:49:35 -0500

I'm sorry to all those saying wait. If I were young enough to go back in, I would wear all 4 of my rows of ribbons. I earned them, so I will wear them. You have experience and know-how that the average newbie won't have. Be a leader within the group......

Response by 1SG Craig Moody made Jan 1 at 2021 1:18 PM

1SG Craig Moody — Fri, 01 Jan 2021 13:18:43 -0500

I went through BCT twice. Two others in the company were prior service also. We hit the PX together at the first opportunity to purchase our previously earned ribbons. My GCM and NSM were easy but my friends were both Viet Nam veterans with well-earned awards. One included a silver star the other a bronze star with V device. Unfortunately our bronze star awardee's records were not complete and he received much grief from a couple of drill sgts until just before graduation a copy of the order was found in his file. I suggest you be certain to wear only those awards in your file.

Response by Lt Col W Scott Arnott made Jan 1 at 2021 10:27 PM

Lt Col W Scott Arnott — Fri, 01 Jan 2021 22:27:10 -0500

In any case, I'd bring a copy of my DD-214 with me! My original is in a safety deposit box at the Credit Union but I keep a copy in my car because I've been challenged by some fools... Served 27 years, E-1 to O-5 in multiple conflicts so, I do look a little unusual...

Response by SGT George Duncan made Jan 2 at 2021 1:36 PM

SGT George Duncan — Sat, 02 Jan 2021 13:36:09 -0500

no just just enjoy the time with your buddies

Response by CPT Mike Sims made Jan 4 at 2021 6:29 PM

CPT Mike Sims — Mon, 04 Jan 2021 18:29:40 -0500

Good luck and thank you for wanting to rejoin and lead new troops... the future of our Army is strengthened on the experience of its Veterans who return to service!

Response by CPT Brian Schwab made Jan 20 at 2021 9:38 PM

CPT Brian Schwab — Wed, 20 Jan 2021 21:38:05 -0500

You earned them. You should wear them if you want.

Response by SGT Daniel Merriman made Feb 26 at 2021 2:43 PM

SGT Daniel Merriman — Fri, 26 Feb 2021 14:43:38 -0500

Don't be a of war hero in basic

Response by PO1 Woody W. made Feb 28 at 2021 8:31 PM

PO1 Woody W. — Sun, 28 Feb 2021 20:31:04 -0500

In the early 1980's through 1985, when I was on Recruiting Duty (primary quotas were Prior/other service veterans) for the Navy / Naval Reserves.... I would scrutinize Service Record Books (SRB, 201 File, etc... I'd order the appropriate service record pages, just to match them up with what was on DD-214s). During that "Peace Time Military" Medals were few and far between, and it seemed <perception> was Sr Brass/Enlisted received anything that wasn't "gedunk" as we say in the Navy. I had numerous Vietnam combat Vets apply to enlist in the Naval Reserves.... to which, out of respect for their prior service, especially in such a challenging time and war.... I'd assist them as much as I could gert everything they warranted. Example..... The Navy regs specifically state, other military service awards can be worn as long as there's a Navy / USMC equivalent Award. I can tell you a USAF Vet who had 5 or 6 rows of 3 across ribbons would end up with may 2 rows of 3 across. I was really surprised the AF gave out medals/ribbons for just about anything!. If an OSVET (other service veteran) had a CIB on his DD-214.... Once they enlisted, I'd give and assist him submit the paperwork to convert the CIB to a Combat Action Ribbon... Both CIB and CAR coveted awards, IMHO. The Navy finally established service ribbons to equate to what other services had, so that's a good thing. Many of my OSVET applicants had to decide if they'd accept a "Administrative Bust" in order to be eligible to join/affiliate. That was determined on whether their MOS did/didn't convert to a Navy Rating and the time in service they've been separated. Ultimately, most would have to make a choice that fit their particular situation. One thing I would always be insistent about.. No matter what your rank is..... if one's rates and have service ribbons/Medals/badges.... wear everyone on of them, as that's your military resume for all to see. If anyone has a problem with it... it's their problem. That being said.... keep authorized documentation handy to verify everything you wear/rate.

Response by LTC Leonard M. Manning, Sr made Mar 18 at 2021 6:02 PM

LTC Leonard M. Manning, Sr — Thu, 18 Mar 2021 18:02:55 -0400

I reported to EOBC in 1983 as a 32 or 33 year old Second Lieutenant - older than most. I reported in uniform as I was taught to do. I had on six active duty awards and two ARNG awards. As I was walking up to the door to the orderly room another Second Lieutenant stopped me and ordered me to remove my awards stating that no 2LT would have those awards. I refused and walked pass the offending officer. I later found out that she was the XO. I made it a point to show her my DD214 showing my prior service and the fact that I had been delayed 2 years in reporting to EOBC.