1LT Private RallyPoint Member 8020066 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>The pay date on my LES reads as my enlistment date, and I am told this pay date actually needs added to it about a year and some change, and that I owe a lot of money. If I understand it right, it&#39;s because I had a break in service and I have to add the total amount of time equal to my break in service to the pay date to ensure I am getting paid appropriately.<br /><br />I am cautious to share all of my personal career details in the public forum, but could PM someone if you are available to help me further. I would greatly appreciate a second opinion on this. If I owe money, fine. I just want to be sure.<br /><br />I am transitioning from active to reserves and I am trying to square away my time in service for my DD 214, in fact I have been trying to square it away since I commissioned. I enlisted in ‘08, in ‘12 went into the reserves, and I contracted into ROTC in ’18. I did not enter the SMP, and I have a break in service until December 2019 when I commissioned. I completed a 1506 in 2020 with the finance office at FT. Lee that said all this. We sent it up, I thought I was good to go. Yet, I believe the DD 214 that transitions is showing me now does not reflect this. In order for them to fix it, they need a 1506 from another office and that office is telling me I owe money. Hence my current situation.<br /><br />Again, I can send details via PM and I would greatly appreciate being schooled up on the situation. As a prior-service Soldier, does commissioning through ROTC change my pay date? 2022-12-09T10:07:35-05:00 1LT Private RallyPoint Member 8020066 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>The pay date on my LES reads as my enlistment date, and I am told this pay date actually needs added to it about a year and some change, and that I owe a lot of money. If I understand it right, it&#39;s because I had a break in service and I have to add the total amount of time equal to my break in service to the pay date to ensure I am getting paid appropriately.<br /><br />I am cautious to share all of my personal career details in the public forum, but could PM someone if you are available to help me further. I would greatly appreciate a second opinion on this. If I owe money, fine. I just want to be sure.<br /><br />I am transitioning from active to reserves and I am trying to square away my time in service for my DD 214, in fact I have been trying to square it away since I commissioned. I enlisted in ‘08, in ‘12 went into the reserves, and I contracted into ROTC in ’18. I did not enter the SMP, and I have a break in service until December 2019 when I commissioned. I completed a 1506 in 2020 with the finance office at FT. Lee that said all this. We sent it up, I thought I was good to go. Yet, I believe the DD 214 that transitions is showing me now does not reflect this. In order for them to fix it, they need a 1506 from another office and that office is telling me I owe money. Hence my current situation.<br /><br />Again, I can send details via PM and I would greatly appreciate being schooled up on the situation. As a prior-service Soldier, does commissioning through ROTC change my pay date? 2022-12-09T10:07:35-05:00 2022-12-09T10:07:35-05:00 SFC David Reid, M.S, PHR, SHRM-CP, DTM 8020069 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>They will probably have to recompile your Basic Active Service Date! Response by SFC David Reid, M.S, PHR, SHRM-CP, DTM made Dec 9 at 2022 10:11 AM 2022-12-09T10:11:40-05:00 2022-12-09T10:11:40-05:00 COL Randall C. 8020124 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Short answer: Your PEBD will be adjusted.<br /><br />Long answer: Your PEBD would stay the same as long as you didn&#39;t have a break in service (there are a couple of other things that could affect it, but they don&#39;t seem to apply in your situation). The time between when your enlistment contract ended (I assume sometime before you contracted in 2018) and your commissioning in 2019 doesn&#39;t count.<br /><br />You can go through the entire process* of determining creditable time, but in your situation it would be easiest for you would be to add the amount of time you had as a break in service to your enlistment date.<br /><br />Yeah ... sucks. Things they should tell people in your situation about going SMP - if you did, you wouldn&#39;t have had a break in service.<br />----------------------------------------------------------------<br />* <a target="_blank" href="https://comptroller.defense.gov/Portals/45/documents/fmr/archive/07aarch/07a01.pdf">https://comptroller.defense.gov/Portals/45/documents/fmr/archive/07aarch/07a01.pdf</a> <div class="pta-link-card answers-template-image type-default"> <div class="pta-link-card-picture"> </div> <div class="pta-link-card-content"> <p class="pta-link-card-title"> <a target="blank" href="https://comptroller.defense.gov/Portals/45/documents/fmr/archive/07aarch/07a01.pdf">07a01.pdf</a> </p> <p class="pta-link-card-description"></p> </div> <div class="clearfix"></div> </div> Response by COL Randall C. made Dec 9 at 2022 10:48 AM 2022-12-09T10:48:14-05:00 2022-12-09T10:48:14-05:00 SFC Private RallyPoint Member 8020336 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>What office did you go to that told you that you will owe money? Career Counselors are the subject matter experts and the ones responsible for completing 1506s.<br /><br />When you had one done before and it was submitted to finance, did the pay date on your LES change? It sounds like it didn&#39;t, meaning your 1506 was returned for corrections or just never submitted. If you get it fixed now you can submit a debt remission packet and it should be waived. If you wait till you separate you won&#39;t have that option. Finance does an audit of all the pays you received and should have received when you separate and you would walk away with a debt.<br /><br />Assuming you were in the Reserves until you joined ROTC, you had a one or two year break in service, so that&#39;s how much later than your enlistment date your PEBD should be. Your IRR time if you have any, counts toward pay. <br /><br />Again, your Career Counselor is the subject matter expert on calculating time in service and 1506 so they can explain your time to you <br /><br />You don&#39;t need to worry about this being reflected on your 214, most 214s don&#39;t account anyway, it&#39;s irrelevant and not a valid source document for that source of information. The only valid information from that block is the start date and end date. Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 9 at 2022 2:20 PM 2022-12-09T14:20:28-05:00 2022-12-09T14:20:28-05:00 CPT Private RallyPoint Member 8021959 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I went from the Regular Army to the National Guard, then commissioned in the NG, and then went back to the Regular Army. Your DD 214&#39;s are only a really summary of your service. They are not the credentialing document. You will have to have a 1506 created to find and adjust your service. When I came back to the RA I didn&#39;t get paid for a month due to the process getting messed up. It sounds like that is happening to you.<br /><br />I can explain the process I dealt with. First, my BASD stayed the same. My PEBD moved up to realign my gaps. My years for service didn&#39;t change though. So I am at 20 years for pay but 15 for service. that was what messed up my pay. For you, you shouldn&#39;t have to pay anything back. I have a feeling that they are not counting your prior service for pay and they are resetting everything. It took about 4 week for my pay office to get it right. Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 10 at 2022 8:03 PM 2022-12-10T20:03:44-05:00 2022-12-10T20:03:44-05:00 COL Bill Gross 8024486 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Are you in a unit now? I include ROTC Detachment with that. Start with the people in the unit who work these issues. Sooner or later it&#39;s going to come back to them. Response by COL Bill Gross made Dec 12 at 2022 10:31 AM 2022-12-12T10:31:48-05:00 2022-12-12T10:31:48-05:00 2022-12-09T10:07:35-05:00