Posted on Jan 2, 2014
SFC Martez Richmond
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I am deeply considering pushing for UCMJ actions against one of my noncommissioned officer due to the fact that recently he has started posting unsuitable comments against the leadership/unit on Facebook.  This NCO was one that I considered to be of the upmost stiller NCO's in the unit but I have had a change of heart due to his recent negative activity.... My first course of action is to sit down and talk with the young NCO and counsel him on his social media behavior but now I'm starting to wonder if this is a growing trend in my unit.  What if any are your thoughts on the situation???
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CPT Daniel Walk, M.B.A.
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I will agree with SFC Hostetter and SSG Hasbun. There's a reason the NCO is negative. The primary interest should be identifying the root problem. If there is an actual problem in the unit, it could be affecting many others who are keeping their mouths shut, hoping it solves itself. <br><br>That said, I would not hesitate to document the counseling on a 4856, as a professional development counseling. Demonstrate you take the situation seriously but want the NCO to be better and not just obedient. <br><br>Everyone has deficiencies. If we focus on improving the most egregious deficiency for each individual, until it is no longer the most egregious, we will make better future leaders.<br>
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SFC Martez Richmond
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Totally agree with your comments Sir !!!
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If the comments were disloyal or disrespectful, during your NCOER counseling time, pull out the DA Form 2166-8-1 and point out to the NCO Part IV a.

Discuss the difference between a yes/no block and assign the task to send complaints up the chain and keep them in house. The only other option is the open door policy or legal. Remind him to be loyal to those with whom he serves: seniors, peers and subordinates alike. That loyalty means sending issues up the chain. Identifying the issue to a leader shows loyalty to subordinates that he will work to resolve issues appropriately. It shows his peers he is loyal to their leadership role by adressing issues they may run into at some point as well. Finally, it is loyal to his leadership to give them the opportunity to fix the issue. Counsel the NCO that he may not like the resolution to the issue, but if the solution does not violate Army Regs or Values, his loyalty then goes to enforcing the decission of his leaders as if it were his own. Teach/Coach/Mentor the NCO on the NCO Creed and the Army Values.


Then point out how you feel the NCO is a stellar performer, but the NCO has made a serious mistake that makes you question their judgement. Tell him how you know he is better than his postings on FB, and you expect him to live up to his potential. Maybe even pull out the old 11 principles of leadership and discuss "Set the example", "Make sound and timely decissions", and "Build the team". Discuss how serious a no in one of those value blocks can hamper a career in the military.

I see it as a chance to teach/coach/mentor a Junior NCO, but then again I am looking at it without being in the situation to know all of the nuances.

I am sure you will come up with the appropriate COA SFC Richmond. It may be requesting UCMJ action from the Company CDR or it may be attempting to remind the NCO that we are professionals, NCO, LEADERS!

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Army Values are what we uphold as Non-Commissioned Officers, this is totally out of line but there is a reason that this is happening. If he has access to a Government computer he has done the required training and what is ethical and correct while posting anything public. Soldier needs to be counseled and then a serious listening session on your behalf about what is creating or what is the stem of this problem. Treat the issue as it needs to be, but still need to counsel him on his actions.
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Amen Sir
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&nbsp;I agree that she/he needs to be counseled, but let's not ignore the message to spite the medium.. Instead of lashing out, wouldn't it&nbsp;be a good idea to see if there is any merit in his/her comments/concerns and investigate/address/fix them? That you disagree with them does not necessarily mean they are wrong...
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SFC Martez Richmond
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You are totally correct SSG Hasbun.  Throughout my career I have learned to not jump head first into a situation without first figuring out the true underlying issue.  Counseling will always be my first course of action but I also wanted to know if further action would be considered amongst my peers.  As far as any merit in his comments; I would have to say no. Because no matter how mad or upset I may be at my leadership or unit; I would not degrade my unit on a social media site knowingly.  Like the LTC and SGM said below there are ways that he could have brought up his frustration to the unit other than blasting it on FB.
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SSgt Forensic Meteorological Consultant
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SFC Martez I think people know that about you by your performance.  As to behavior that runs counter to good discipline just making sure they know people are watching (fair or not) and is it worth the risk?
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SSG Cannon Crew Member
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The wonder thing about our military is the numerous perspectives we all view the same situation in. It is what strengthens us, in my opinion. The same strength does have a counter. Counseling is always a great step when engaging any situation that requires a clear view about. SSG Hasbun, you nailed it. Disagreeing doesn't mean he is wrong. His actions regarding the situation are wrong, but that is why we are here. Coach, counsel and mentor young NCOs. It is amazing the different perspectives we gain from it. 
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Firstly, I would like to congratulate you on your choice of handling this situation.  It's not everyday a situation arises in which a Senior NCO must take action and opts to think about how to handle the situation properly.  My previous Senior NCOs would have simply laid down the law by any means necessary and someone probably would have lost some rank along the way.  However, you have chosen to seek advice on how exactly to handle this.  I give you the utmost respect, SFC Richmond.

 

As for what you should do, I agree with many of the posts here.  I would definitely seek the soldier out and have a one on one discussion.  Find out what their issues are with the leadership and then address it.  Also, as an NCO (buck or senior) it's not in the best interest or professional at all to make insulting comments about your unit and/or leadership in a public forum where anyone can see it.  It's stupid!  They need to realize this.  Something that can seem so small could be the ultimate career killer.  Just remind him of the Marine Sgt who boasted on Facebook about his utter disdain for the POTUS.  Was quickly separated from the military. 

 

http://www.kpbs.org/news/2012/jul/30/marine-anti-obama-facebook-posts-gary-stein/

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