Posted on Jul 13, 2014
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What's the deal with this? I just read about it yesterday. Why were they suspended?

http://www.armytimes.com/article/20140710/NEWS/307100073/Apache-battalion-leaders-suspended-under-investigation
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CSM Michael J. Uhlig
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the article indicates low morale.....could be a myriad of things....could be suicides in the unit; not recommending their Soldiers for awards/promotions; not taking care of the families; no family readiness programs; multiple Sexual Assault allegations (maybe without action); multiple IG complaints (substantiated) and etc....

Again, I do not know the specifics of the case however, just trying to give you some ideas that could lead to this kind of action......something significant must be going on to make it look like a credible case.
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SSG General Services Technician And State Vehicle Inspector
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CSM, I agree. I had thought about most of those. I was just putting this out there to see if anyone else had any information. I know more will get put out later on though. I just think it's weird to have BOTH senior leaders suspended although I know it's not the first time it's happened. Just weird.
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COL Vincent Stoneking nailed it already. Suspension is not relief. Under AR 600-8-2, any commander's investigation (formal or informal) or law enforcement investigation (military or civilian) is cause for a flag to be initiated. Doesn't mean anything punitive, it's an administrative tool pending the outcome of the findings. I believe it is AR 600-20 that says something about personnel cannot hold command positions while flagged, so they would be temporarily reassigned pending the outcome. It's not something new, it's just we are more aware now with the speed of technology and the HUGE spotlight we have on the military caused by the media's attention on recent cases. I had not seen this article before but would be interested to learn more of the facts.
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SSG Trevor S.
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What is this "suspension" thing that seems to be popular lately? I don't remember anywhere in the UCMJ, or evaluations, or Army Command Policy where suspension is described as a technique to be used. Is "suspension" just a new politically correct term for relieved?
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SSG Trevor S. , excellent question. Hopefully some senior leaders, especially field grade officers, can shed some light on that.
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COL Vincent Stoneking
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Once a command-directed investigation is initiated, the individual(s) being investigated are to be SUSPENDED from their position until the investigation is completed.

They are not RELIEVED, because there is not yet cause for relief. They are basically in limbo and there should be an ACTING (whatever position) appointed for the duration of the suspension/investigation.

One the investigation is complete, they will either be relieved if warranted, or returned to their command position.

I should know the reg, because this is something I had to deal with, but don't on this Sunny Sunday morning.
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SSG Trevor S.
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Thank you Sir.
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