RallyPoint Shared Content 849454 <div class="images-v2-count-1"><div class="content-picture image-v2-number-1" id="image-53475"> <div class="social_icons social-buttons-on-image"> <a href='https://www.facebook.com/sharer/sharer.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallypoint.com%2Fanswers%2Fblame-higher-education-for-america-s-potentially-weaker-military%3Futm_source%3DFacebook%26utm_medium%3Dorganic%26utm_campaign%3DShare%20to%20facebook' target="_blank" class='social-share-button facebook-share-button'><i class="fa fa-facebook-f"></i></a> <a href="https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?text=%22Blame+higher+education+for+America%E2%80%99s+potentially+weaker+military%22&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallypoint.com%2Fanswers%2Fblame-higher-education-for-america-s-potentially-weaker-military&amp;via=RallyPoint" target="_blank" class="social-share-button twitter-custom-share-button"><i class="fa fa-twitter"></i></a> <a href="mailto:?subject=Check this out on RallyPoint!&body=Hi, I thought you would find this interesting:%0D%0A&quot;Blame higher education for America’s potentially weaker military&quot;%0D%0A %0D%0AHere is the link: https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/blame-higher-education-for-america-s-potentially-weaker-military" target="_blank" class="social-share-button email-share-button"><i class="fa fa-envelope"></i></a> </div> <a class="fancybox" rel="0d67b45367b63b8eca2456fb6b733017" href="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/pictures/images/000/053/475/for_gallery_v2/7f058efc.png"><img src="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/pictures/images/000/053/475/large_v3/7f058efc.png" alt="7f058efc" /></a></div></div>From: Fortune<br /><br />As more Americans pursue college degrees, it has become less of an obstacle to becoming a leader in the military, hurting their relative quality.<br /><br />The law of unintended consequences is alive and well in a strange place: more Americans are going to college, which is a good thing, but it has reduced the quality of officers joining the military.<br /><br />I saw the importance of having a high-quality officer corps firsthand when I was deployed with an infantry company to Sangin, Afghanistan in 2011. For seven frustrating months, our battalion was stuck in a Groundhog’s day of either finding Improvised Explosive Devices (IEDs) or having the IEDs find us. The only variation was imposed on us by the actions of the other side.<br /><br />Waiting for the plane home, I joked to another officer, “That was nothing like what the counterinsurgency manual described.”<br /><br />“I wouldn’t know – I haven’t read it,” he replied. “I don’t need a book to tell me what to do.”<br /><br />This anecdote of one lieutenant’s antipathy to “book learning” reflects a deeper problem: the decline in the intelligence of military officers, which our recent study found has become significant. This is not just a result of continuing wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, but has been a trend for at least 35 years.<br /><br />Using data from a Freedom of Information Act request, we found that the average intelligence of Marine Corps officers has dropped since 1980. For example, 41% of new Marine officers in 2014 would not have met the intelligence standards demanded of officers in World War II. This decline is especially surprising because, as others have documented, 2011 saw the most intelligent group of enlistees in the history of the volunteer military. Thus, even as the intelligence of our enlisted troops have been rising, that of our commissioned officers has been declining.<br /><br />Why the decrease in officer quality?<br /><br />We didn’t find it was due to more minorities or women in the ranks, as many have assumed. The basic answer is that more people are going to college. Officers in the volunteer military have always been required to have a four-year college degree. The pool of college students has increased by over 50% since 1980, so these days a lot more Americans meet the key qualification to become an officer than was the case three decades ago. That has been very positive for society by increasing social mobility. But perhaps it hasn’t been all good news. The expansion of the pool of college students means a larger, but lower quality, pool of potential officers. While our data were about Marine officers, the results likely apply to the whole military.<br /><br />Another example drawn from my experience shows the problems created by a lack of intellectual curiosity. The Afghan Army had several large pictures in their bases and on their trucks of Ahmed Shah Massoud, the famous Tajik warlord who fought against the Soviets. Few of the Marine officers knew his history, but more importantly many others didn’t care to learn. They then couldn’t understand why the local Pashtuns were upset with the presence of “foreign” Tajik troops in their village. Wrongly, we measured success as merely counting the number of Afghan Army patrols, which we took as an indicator of closer relations with the local Pashtuns, without recognizing how the locals truly felt.<br /><br />Our military is being given increasingly complex and diverse missions across the globe; it doesn’t make sense to train a young officer how to fight against the Soviets in World War III and then ask him or her to be a sociologist and diplomat. But as long as the United States relies on the military to conduct foreign affairs, the military needs to be staffed with knowledgeable, intellectually capable officers.<br /><br />This decline has not been helped by the anti-military culture that has prevailed at elite universities since the Vietnam War. While Harvard University restored its ROTC program following the repeal of ‘Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell’ in 2011, the continued paucity of cadets there belies their claim that it was always about homosexuals in the military. This year, only *one* cadet was commissioned from Harvard into the Navy — hardly the contribution we would need to create a more intelligent officer corps.<br /><br />This need for critical thinkers was recognized well before the current wars. In the 1990s, Marine General Charles Krulak wrote of the “Three Block War.” In a single city, the military is conducting humanitarian relief on one block; peacekeeping operations are conducted on the next; and in the third, the troops are engaged in a full-out fight for their lives. Krulak’s prediction was eerily prescient; in Iraq and Afghanistan, we would hand out candy to children on one block, on the next we were trying to solve problems of local governance, and on the third we were walking through a minefield of IEDs.<br /><br />The military needs intelligent, flexible leaders. We are lacking enough of them right now. As a first step, administer the existing enlisted intelligence test (ASVAB) to all potential officers’ intelligence. After a year of results, establish a minimum score as a short-term solution. In the long-term, we will need to critically evaluate what qualifications produce a successful officer and how we measure those qualifications. The long-term solution will be complicated, but it is vital. Not just for national security, but for the sake of the enlistees who entrust their lives to officers.<br /><br /><a target="_blank" href="http://fortune.com/2015/07/27/college-america-weaker-military/?xid=soc_socialflow_twitter_FORTUNE">http://fortune.com/2015/07/27/college-america-weaker-military/?xid=soc_socialflow_twitter_FORTUNE</a> <div class="pta-link-card answers-template-image type-default"> <div class="pta-link-card-picture"> <img src="https://d26horl2n8pviu.cloudfront.net/link_data_pictures/images/000/018/897/qrc/181214664.jpg?1443049727"> </div> <div class="pta-link-card-content"> <p class="pta-link-card-title"> <a target="blank" href="http://fortune.com/2015/07/27/college-america-weaker-military/?xid=soc_socialflow_twitter_FORTUNE">Blame higher education for America’s potentially weaker military</a> </p> <p class="pta-link-card-description">As more Americans pursue college degrees, it has become less of an obstacle to becoming a leader in the military, hurting their relative quality.</p> </div> <div class="clearfix"></div> </div> "Blame higher education for America’s potentially weaker military" 2015-07-28T10:36:44-04:00 RallyPoint Shared Content 849454 <div class="images-v2-count-1"><div class="content-picture image-v2-number-1" id="image-53475"> <div class="social_icons social-buttons-on-image"> <a href='https://www.facebook.com/sharer/sharer.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallypoint.com%2Fanswers%2Fblame-higher-education-for-america-s-potentially-weaker-military%3Futm_source%3DFacebook%26utm_medium%3Dorganic%26utm_campaign%3DShare%20to%20facebook' target="_blank" class='social-share-button facebook-share-button'><i class="fa fa-facebook-f"></i></a> <a href="https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?text=%22Blame+higher+education+for+America%E2%80%99s+potentially+weaker+military%22&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallypoint.com%2Fanswers%2Fblame-higher-education-for-america-s-potentially-weaker-military&amp;via=RallyPoint" target="_blank" class="social-share-button twitter-custom-share-button"><i class="fa fa-twitter"></i></a> <a href="mailto:?subject=Check this out on RallyPoint!&body=Hi, I thought you would find this interesting:%0D%0A&quot;Blame higher education for America’s potentially weaker military&quot;%0D%0A %0D%0AHere is the link: https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/blame-higher-education-for-america-s-potentially-weaker-military" target="_blank" class="social-share-button email-share-button"><i class="fa fa-envelope"></i></a> </div> <a class="fancybox" rel="288cb6fbfc185568f8e0f639dafa3a2e" href="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/pictures/images/000/053/475/for_gallery_v2/7f058efc.png"><img src="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/pictures/images/000/053/475/large_v3/7f058efc.png" alt="7f058efc" /></a></div></div>From: Fortune<br /><br />As more Americans pursue college degrees, it has become less of an obstacle to becoming a leader in the military, hurting their relative quality.<br /><br />The law of unintended consequences is alive and well in a strange place: more Americans are going to college, which is a good thing, but it has reduced the quality of officers joining the military.<br /><br />I saw the importance of having a high-quality officer corps firsthand when I was deployed with an infantry company to Sangin, Afghanistan in 2011. For seven frustrating months, our battalion was stuck in a Groundhog’s day of either finding Improvised Explosive Devices (IEDs) or having the IEDs find us. The only variation was imposed on us by the actions of the other side.<br /><br />Waiting for the plane home, I joked to another officer, “That was nothing like what the counterinsurgency manual described.”<br /><br />“I wouldn’t know – I haven’t read it,” he replied. “I don’t need a book to tell me what to do.”<br /><br />This anecdote of one lieutenant’s antipathy to “book learning” reflects a deeper problem: the decline in the intelligence of military officers, which our recent study found has become significant. This is not just a result of continuing wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, but has been a trend for at least 35 years.<br /><br />Using data from a Freedom of Information Act request, we found that the average intelligence of Marine Corps officers has dropped since 1980. For example, 41% of new Marine officers in 2014 would not have met the intelligence standards demanded of officers in World War II. This decline is especially surprising because, as others have documented, 2011 saw the most intelligent group of enlistees in the history of the volunteer military. Thus, even as the intelligence of our enlisted troops have been rising, that of our commissioned officers has been declining.<br /><br />Why the decrease in officer quality?<br /><br />We didn’t find it was due to more minorities or women in the ranks, as many have assumed. The basic answer is that more people are going to college. Officers in the volunteer military have always been required to have a four-year college degree. The pool of college students has increased by over 50% since 1980, so these days a lot more Americans meet the key qualification to become an officer than was the case three decades ago. That has been very positive for society by increasing social mobility. But perhaps it hasn’t been all good news. The expansion of the pool of college students means a larger, but lower quality, pool of potential officers. While our data were about Marine officers, the results likely apply to the whole military.<br /><br />Another example drawn from my experience shows the problems created by a lack of intellectual curiosity. The Afghan Army had several large pictures in their bases and on their trucks of Ahmed Shah Massoud, the famous Tajik warlord who fought against the Soviets. Few of the Marine officers knew his history, but more importantly many others didn’t care to learn. They then couldn’t understand why the local Pashtuns were upset with the presence of “foreign” Tajik troops in their village. Wrongly, we measured success as merely counting the number of Afghan Army patrols, which we took as an indicator of closer relations with the local Pashtuns, without recognizing how the locals truly felt.<br /><br />Our military is being given increasingly complex and diverse missions across the globe; it doesn’t make sense to train a young officer how to fight against the Soviets in World War III and then ask him or her to be a sociologist and diplomat. But as long as the United States relies on the military to conduct foreign affairs, the military needs to be staffed with knowledgeable, intellectually capable officers.<br /><br />This decline has not been helped by the anti-military culture that has prevailed at elite universities since the Vietnam War. While Harvard University restored its ROTC program following the repeal of ‘Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell’ in 2011, the continued paucity of cadets there belies their claim that it was always about homosexuals in the military. This year, only *one* cadet was commissioned from Harvard into the Navy — hardly the contribution we would need to create a more intelligent officer corps.<br /><br />This need for critical thinkers was recognized well before the current wars. In the 1990s, Marine General Charles Krulak wrote of the “Three Block War.” In a single city, the military is conducting humanitarian relief on one block; peacekeeping operations are conducted on the next; and in the third, the troops are engaged in a full-out fight for their lives. Krulak’s prediction was eerily prescient; in Iraq and Afghanistan, we would hand out candy to children on one block, on the next we were trying to solve problems of local governance, and on the third we were walking through a minefield of IEDs.<br /><br />The military needs intelligent, flexible leaders. We are lacking enough of them right now. As a first step, administer the existing enlisted intelligence test (ASVAB) to all potential officers’ intelligence. After a year of results, establish a minimum score as a short-term solution. In the long-term, we will need to critically evaluate what qualifications produce a successful officer and how we measure those qualifications. The long-term solution will be complicated, but it is vital. Not just for national security, but for the sake of the enlistees who entrust their lives to officers.<br /><br /><a target="_blank" href="http://fortune.com/2015/07/27/college-america-weaker-military/?xid=soc_socialflow_twitter_FORTUNE">http://fortune.com/2015/07/27/college-america-weaker-military/?xid=soc_socialflow_twitter_FORTUNE</a> <div class="pta-link-card answers-template-image type-default"> <div class="pta-link-card-picture"> <img src="https://d26horl2n8pviu.cloudfront.net/link_data_pictures/images/000/018/897/qrc/181214664.jpg?1443049727"> </div> <div class="pta-link-card-content"> <p class="pta-link-card-title"> <a target="blank" href="http://fortune.com/2015/07/27/college-america-weaker-military/?xid=soc_socialflow_twitter_FORTUNE">Blame higher education for America’s potentially weaker military</a> </p> <p class="pta-link-card-description">As more Americans pursue college degrees, it has become less of an obstacle to becoming a leader in the military, hurting their relative quality.</p> </div> <div class="clearfix"></div> </div> "Blame higher education for America’s potentially weaker military" 2015-07-28T10:36:44-04:00 2015-07-28T10:36:44-04:00 MAJ Ken Landgren 849846 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I wish I knew the methodology of used to make the statement WWII Marine Officers had a significant boost in brain power. Your buddy is an idiot. If the campaign plan is COIN, he sure better damn have read it. Leaders need to be scholars. If you read COIN, you can see what was intended, what happens, and how to shrink the delta. Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made Jul 28 at 2015 12:46 PM 2015-07-28T12:46:21-04:00 2015-07-28T12:46:21-04:00 Sgt Kristofer Lee 849892 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>As a prior enlisted man, I had to read this article twice to fully comprehend what was being stated. Are you implying that since more people are pursuing higher education (increasing the pool from which the military can pull from in the search for qualified officer candidates) the quality and intelligence of that pool is decreasing? Personally, I have always believed that simply requiring an officer candidate to hold a Bachelors degree as requirement for a commission is somewhat prejudice. I understand that other requirements and criteria need to be met as well, however the degree is the first consideration. If a degree was sufficient enough to quantify the intelligence and leadership abilities and potential of an individual, why then do we have "Mustangs" and Warrant Officers? The issue of intelligence, quality, and character of our military officers is not an issue of education, it is a matter of values, morals, and cultural influences. Society seems to hold military members to a higher standard, but often forget that our military is an all volunteer force that comes from that same society. Education and intelligence may be a symptom of decreased quality in the officer corps but it is not the root problem. Response by Sgt Kristofer Lee made Jul 28 at 2015 1:00 PM 2015-07-28T13:00:08-04:00 2015-07-28T13:00:08-04:00 2LT Private RallyPoint Member 850052 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Intelligence: your talking about different kinds. First you talk about intelligence concerning culture and history (The Massoud example), then you talk about "intellectual curiosity" concerning officers not caring about the Massoud example. <br /><br />Then your solution to fix this, is to have a minimum ASVAB score for future officers. Your ASVAB score has little to do with the above examples your displeased about. Your ASVAB score is better at measuring whether or not you can do a math problem, read well or know basic science. It hasn't got anything to do with knowing about history and culture and has no way of determining whether a person will care about such information. <br /><br />What you are after, is a different kind of intelligence. Someone who cares and comprehends that understanding the local culture is vital; and has a mind for culture, history and political science. To fix the problems your're concerned with, you would want to screen for an understanding of those subjects with a test. And perhaps you would want to recruit from Anthropology, History, Political Science and similar majors in the college population. An officer with a physics degree is a winner if math is necessary but not best prepared for a complex political environment, nor is a criminal justice major necessarily the best fit. Response by 2LT Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 28 at 2015 2:01 PM 2015-07-28T14:01:46-04:00 2015-07-28T14:01:46-04:00 CPT Private RallyPoint Member 850060 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I think the best thing about the officer corps in the army is how its pulls so many officers from different learning institutions. College doesnt make someone intelligent. It helps then improve their skills at writing, reading, critical analysis, conudctive reasoning and personal development. No education system can make someone have original thought or creative thinking. Alot of people say a degree is just a peice of paper but its more then that. Its a certificate that says someone can put in the work and perserve. You know they took time in honing and developing their craft. Its almost impossible to say that WWII officers were more intelligent because skill sets are so vastly different now. How many of them could use computer programming, has to take Sciences with the adding knowledge of the last 70 years. Just because someone doenst read a Manuel doesn't make them less intelligent, they could be a whiz at everything and then be inheritedly lazy. Failure to train isnt a learning flaw 99% of the time, its a character flaw. I think comparing military personnel and people can in general to people of the past generation is irrevlavnt and impossible. Technology and knowledge have grown more in the last 60 years then at any other time in human history. While we can learn lessons of yesteryears and be provide with examples of what makes officers effective leaders, to actaully compare capabilities is like trying to compare NFL players to others in different eras. The game has changed so much in the last 70 years and so has the world Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 28 at 2015 2:03 PM 2015-07-28T14:03:11-04:00 2015-07-28T14:03:11-04:00 SSG Scott Burk 850642 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I'm tossing my BS card on this one. Just because you have a degree doesn't mean you'll pass the selection and training for a commission. I had 3 associates, a BS and an MS while I was in. It didn't mean I was smarter than everyone else, just more well rounded. Response by SSG Scott Burk made Jul 28 at 2015 5:19 PM 2015-07-28T17:19:17-04:00 2015-07-28T17:19:17-04:00 COL Roxanne Arndt 851495 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I disagree with this. Just because you have a college degree does not guarantee that you will be an officer. You have to be selected to go to Officer Candidate School (OCS) and then there has to be a need. Unless you are part of the AMEDD, JAG, or Chaplain corp, then yes you receive a direct commission and do not have to attend OCS. Being a leader develops overtime. Maybe if you go to a service academy your leadership skills are at the very minimum at the novice level. Many college grads are in there early 20's when they do finish college if they go straight from high school. What 20 something do you know has the ability to be more than a novice leader. As a 2LT you rely on your senior NCO's, you have a mentor, you take leadership courses. Often times as a new officer you don't get an assignment based on your college degree, you learn your job OJT and depend on others. Being in the AMEDD I've seen many 2LT nurses be put as charge nurses, team leaders. They barely have their clinical skills down and they certainly do not know how to be a leader. In nursing school you take one leadership course....That is not enough. So bottom line, a college degree does not make a leader.....(Sorry if I got carried away!) Response by COL Roxanne Arndt made Jul 28 at 2015 10:21 PM 2015-07-28T22:21:05-04:00 2015-07-28T22:21:05-04:00 MSgt Dwyane Watson 852412 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I don't think it has anything to do with degrees but entitlement. Many people feel they come from privilege and don't need to listen to others that they feel are below them. I have worked for great officers and terrible officers as well as SNCOs. A leader is someone who listens to subordinates and learns from them. A good NCO will try to train their young officers and show them how to lead, other officers already know everything and don't need their NCOs and then you have your bad leaders. One young officer learned the hard way to listen to his troops when the LT was trying to show he was the boss and was demanding to get an aircraft fixed. The aircraft in question needed a jo-bolt (a blind fastener that you can only use once, it is not really a bolt) and the LT told the shop chief to cann the part. The subject matter expert said you can't do that and we needed to wait for the new fastener. The LT said you will do what I say, so the fastener was removed and the shop chief brought the remnants back to the Lt and said here is your fastener, now you have two broke aircraft. The Lt faced the music from higher ups and learned a valuable lesson, listen to the subject matter experts. Response by MSgt Dwyane Watson made Jul 29 at 2015 10:59 AM 2015-07-29T10:59:50-04:00 2015-07-29T10:59:50-04:00 SPC Luis Mendez 995201 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>NOPE, I blame Richard Nixon for abolishing the DRAFT. Back in the days the DRAFT was the Great Equalizer, where men of different social, economical and Educational levels and backgrounds were together, I saw plenty of that. Even in the cases where the most educated or higher economics were the CO's they still have to hang around daily. Since 1973 every man between 20 and 64 is DRAFT Dodger, 'cause they dodged it once is was abolished. Response by SPC Luis Mendez made Sep 26 at 2015 1:50 AM 2015-09-26T01:50:04-04:00 2015-09-26T01:50:04-04:00 LTC Private RallyPoint Member 995220 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>So not about cutting the force??? Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 26 at 2015 2:08 AM 2015-09-26T02:08:42-04:00 2015-09-26T02:08:42-04:00 1LT Private RallyPoint Member 995226 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Yeah. I know a bunch of officers that got basket weaving degrees in history, agricultural leadership, international studies, English, and Spanish. They basically majored in the Army and that's all right. They became great combat arms PLs.<br /><br />The authors are trying to make a name for themselves by writing an interesting article in fortune and oversimplifying issue., Its part of journalism and good job. Thank you for your service. Response by 1LT Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 26 at 2015 2:13 AM 2015-09-26T02:13:14-04:00 2015-09-26T02:13:14-04:00 CPT Dahn Shaulis 4167208 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Actually, US college enrollment is down seven consecutive years going on eight. <a target="_blank" href="https://collegemeltdown.blogspot.com/2018/10/college-enrollments-continue-decline-in.html">https://collegemeltdown.blogspot.com/2018/10/college-enrollments-continue-decline-in.html</a> <div class="pta-link-card answers-template-image type-default"> <div class="pta-link-card-picture"> <img src="https://d26horl2n8pviu.cloudfront.net/link_data_pictures/images/000/345/579/qrc/icon18_edit_allbkg.gif?1543460468"> </div> <div class="pta-link-card-content"> <p class="pta-link-card-title"> <a target="blank" href="https://collegemeltdown.blogspot.com/2018/10/college-enrollments-continue-decline-in.html">College Enrollments Continue Decline in Several States</a> </p> <p class="pta-link-card-description">Dahn Shaulis&#39; data-driven blog about the crisis in US higher education, including student loan debt and adjunctification.</p> </div> <div class="clearfix"></div> </div> Response by CPT Dahn Shaulis made Nov 28 at 2018 10:01 PM 2018-11-28T22:01:18-05:00 2018-11-28T22:01:18-05:00 COL Private RallyPoint Member 4640614 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Wow. It was assumed that the intelligence of the Marine Officer Corps was down because of minorities and women? Thank god we have plenty of white males to keep this country safe with intelligent leadership. Response by COL Private RallyPoint Member made May 16 at 2019 10:57 AM 2019-05-16T10:57:54-04:00 2019-05-16T10:57:54-04:00 SFC David Reid, M.S, PHR, SHRM-CP, DTM 5007197 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I too dont buy that! Response by SFC David Reid, M.S, PHR, SHRM-CP, DTM made Sep 9 at 2019 12:07 PM 2019-09-09T12:07:55-04:00 2019-09-09T12:07:55-04:00 2015-07-28T10:36:44-04:00