Posted on Dec 4, 2015
CAIR-LA spokesman says America is to blame for bloody Islamic extremism worldwide? True dat?
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Video: CAIR-LA Director Hussam Ayloush Interviewed by CNN on Islamophobia, San Bernardino...
CAIR-LA: California Muslims to Respond to San Bernardino Shooting, Naming of Suspect http://www.cair.com/press-center/press-releases/13282-cair-la-california...
America bears some of the blame for the bloody wave of Islamic extremism that has brought terrorism to San Bernardino, Paris and locations around the world, according to a spokesman for the Council on American-Islamic Relations. In a Friday CNN interview, Hussam Ayloush, of the group's Los Angeles chapter, said American foreign policy has helped fuel the rage that drives Muslim radicals to kill in the name of their faith. “Let’s not forget that some of our own foreign policy, as Americans, as the west, have fueled that extremism,” Ayloush told "New Day" host Chris Cuomo during a discussion about Wednesday's terrorist attack in San Bernardino, Calif., where a Muslim married couple killed 14 and wounded 21 at a holiday party for the county health department that employed the husband, Syed Rizwan Farook.
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CPO Andy Carrillo, MS Personally I do not trust any spokesman from CAIR. In Northern Virginia where I have lived and been stationed for so many years, we have seen CAIR proselytizing, members indited for financially and materially supporting terrorists and terrorist movements, and their disinformation campaigns for some time.
Note, I updated the top of this response to address the current discussion CPO Joseph Grant COL Ted Mc PO3 Brad Phlipot CW4 (Join to see)
The following comments were posted under a different discussion and merged with the current one.
No SMSgt Minister Gerald A. Thomas I do not believe that the citizens of the USA share any blame for terror attacks going back at least in this nation to the first attack on the World Trade Center. In nations where Muslims are a minor minority the Koran instructs them to lie to unbelievers as to their true intentions.
The honor killing of your girls and women by Muslim relatives in this nation, the assaults by Muslim soldiers on other members overseas and the military community at Fort Hood, the assault on recruiters this past summer, the San Bernardino massacre, and obviously the 9-11-2001 attacks are solely the responsibility of Muslims. The wahhabi doctrine adherents are responsible for teh major killings; but, the honor killings are the responsibility of more average Muslims.
I doubt the leaders of Islam will ever be honest about motivation, responsibility and blame as long as they are Muslim. I pray for Muslims to turn to Christ who is the only hope for any of us.
Note, I updated the top of this response to address the current discussion CPO Joseph Grant COL Ted Mc PO3 Brad Phlipot CW4 (Join to see)
The following comments were posted under a different discussion and merged with the current one.
No SMSgt Minister Gerald A. Thomas I do not believe that the citizens of the USA share any blame for terror attacks going back at least in this nation to the first attack on the World Trade Center. In nations where Muslims are a minor minority the Koran instructs them to lie to unbelievers as to their true intentions.
The honor killing of your girls and women by Muslim relatives in this nation, the assaults by Muslim soldiers on other members overseas and the military community at Fort Hood, the assault on recruiters this past summer, the San Bernardino massacre, and obviously the 9-11-2001 attacks are solely the responsibility of Muslims. The wahhabi doctrine adherents are responsible for teh major killings; but, the honor killings are the responsibility of more average Muslims.
I doubt the leaders of Islam will ever be honest about motivation, responsibility and blame as long as they are Muslim. I pray for Muslims to turn to Christ who is the only hope for any of us.
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2LT R. A. - I don't need a "source of authority to support" anything I say. I just say it. Our friend, the LTC Ford, provided all the sources he needed to get his point across. What exactly defines a "non-scholar"? It also does not matter if a source is written by a non-muslim (I don't need to check my spelling. When I refer to a muslim it is always with a lower-case "m". Since I can't avenge all of the Christians that have been slaughtered at the hands of muslims, the least I can do is use a lower-case "m" to give them the finger a less obvious way) as there are plenty of religious scholars across the globe that don't practice any form of religion, but write countless volumes about all religions. I'll dumb what I said down for you so you can understand it. You don't have to be it to learn about it or be an authority on it. The fact that you are on this site trolling proves that you are not a grown up. The fact that I am currently in Afghanistan defending the freedom of a group of people who frankly don't deserve my protection because they lack the intestinal fortitude to defend their own land gives me a hunch that I'm probably more grown up than you. By the way, you forgot to raise your hand. Now hush.
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I am not interested in further interaction with you. I only ask that you stop trolling. If you have something of value, create your own new post and share away. No need to hijack someone else's thread. See what I did there? Hijack. Get it? Hijack!
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COL Ted Mc
CW4 (Join to see) - Chief Warrant; The fact (or supposition) that someone is a Muslim does not render their thoughts or conclusions any more or less viable than the fact (or supposition) that someone is a Christian.
I greatly fear that "the ISISite terrorists" are succeeding as far as you are concerned (and that you're not alone in that regard).
To understand the writings of either a religion or a culture takes MORE than "academic interest" it takes an understanding of both the current and historical context of the writings, religion, and/or culture.
As a single example, consider the Pearl Harbor attack. It was the consensus of the US government military, intelligence and diplomatic agencies that Japan would never attack the United States of America because it was obvious that Japan could never win an all out war against the US. That Japan could never win an all out war against the US was also common knowledge amongst the Japanese military, intelligence, and diplomatic agencies.
Why then did Japan attack America when it was common knowledge that it would lose any all out war against the US?
Because - TO THE JAPANESE - they didn't have any choice but to attack.
That fact was also known to the US but was ignored because it "wasn't logical" to start a war that couldn't be won.
One further point, it doesn't actually matter what is in any religion's "Holy Book(s)" - what matters is what part of their "Holy Book(s)" the people who subscribe to the religion are ACTUALLY following. I don't think that there are many "Christians" who still approve of slavery or genocide or "Holy War" - all of which are approved of in "The Bible". Does that mean that there aren't any? Of course not. Does that mean that we should condemn the many because of the actions of the few? Of course not. Would condemning the many increase the power of the few? Of course it would.
I greatly fear that "the ISISite terrorists" are succeeding as far as you are concerned (and that you're not alone in that regard).
To understand the writings of either a religion or a culture takes MORE than "academic interest" it takes an understanding of both the current and historical context of the writings, religion, and/or culture.
As a single example, consider the Pearl Harbor attack. It was the consensus of the US government military, intelligence and diplomatic agencies that Japan would never attack the United States of America because it was obvious that Japan could never win an all out war against the US. That Japan could never win an all out war against the US was also common knowledge amongst the Japanese military, intelligence, and diplomatic agencies.
Why then did Japan attack America when it was common knowledge that it would lose any all out war against the US?
Because - TO THE JAPANESE - they didn't have any choice but to attack.
That fact was also known to the US but was ignored because it "wasn't logical" to start a war that couldn't be won.
One further point, it doesn't actually matter what is in any religion's "Holy Book(s)" - what matters is what part of their "Holy Book(s)" the people who subscribe to the religion are ACTUALLY following. I don't think that there are many "Christians" who still approve of slavery or genocide or "Holy War" - all of which are approved of in "The Bible". Does that mean that there aren't any? Of course not. Does that mean that we should condemn the many because of the actions of the few? Of course not. Would condemning the many increase the power of the few? Of course it would.
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COL Ted Mc
CW4 (Join to see) - Chief Warrant; I'll repeat something that I posted previously:
Get mad, not scared.
If you run in fear, then the terrorists have already won.
If you abandon your principles, then the terrorists have already won.
If you abandon your aspirations, then the terrorists have already won.
If you abandon your rights, then the terrorists have already won.
If you abandon your standards, then the terrorists have already won.
If you abandon your ideals, then the terrorists have already won.
If you abandon your freedom, then the terrorists have already won.
If you abandon your dreams, then the terrorists have already won.
If you start to act like the terrorists, then the terrorists have already won.
Get mad, not scared.
If you run in fear, then the terrorists have already won.
If you abandon your principles, then the terrorists have already won.
If you abandon your aspirations, then the terrorists have already won.
If you abandon your rights, then the terrorists have already won.
If you abandon your standards, then the terrorists have already won.
If you abandon your ideals, then the terrorists have already won.
If you abandon your freedom, then the terrorists have already won.
If you abandon your dreams, then the terrorists have already won.
If you start to act like the terrorists, then the terrorists have already won.
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SMSgt Minister Gerald A. Thomas Let's not forget Farook was an American, born and raised here and still he was swayed to be an advocate for the political organization known as ISIS. Let's not forget, CAIR (Counsel on American and Islamic Relations) is a political organization. All political organizations whether peaceful or not have an agenda.
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SFC A.M. Drake -
I just saw your question. It has always been. It's not an abstract disorganized element that it is portrayed to be. It has structure, a hierarchy, it's members share a common purpose, values, a mission and a strategy. It operates using a coordinated effort and there is division of labor.
I just saw your question. It has always been. It's not an abstract disorganized element that it is portrayed to be. It has structure, a hierarchy, it's members share a common purpose, values, a mission and a strategy. It operates using a coordinated effort and there is division of labor.
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SPC Charles Griffith
Nationality is not at question here the fake Religion of islam is the problem and it will USE whoever it can to achieve it's goal.
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I think when you pick up a gun and kill innocent people, blame stops mattering. You just need to be put DOWN.
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