SPC Private RallyPoint Member 5912204 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Can a 1sg count a record apft as invalid if he says he does not believe that SM passed it? <br />SM Signed a counseling to accept taking a APFT during Covid-19 and then took an APFT.<br />NCOIC administered the test and filled and signed the DA 705. 2020-05-19T21:40:10-04:00 SPC Private RallyPoint Member 5912204

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Can a 1sg count a record apft as invalid if he says he does not believe that SM passed it? <br />SM Signed a counseling to accept taking a APFT during Covid-19 and then took an APFT.<br />NCOIC administered the test and filled and signed the DA 705.

2020-05-19T21:40:10-04:00 2020-05-19T21:40:10-04:00 CW4 Keith Dolliver 5912335

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>No. As long as it was known that it would be a record before taking the APFT (and it sounds like there is a counseling statement to acknowledge/prove that), and all standards were followed, i.e. appropriate number of graders/administrators, etc, then there is no recourse. The graders/administrator should be able to vouch for you to the 1SG.<br /><br />Hold on to copies of the counseling statement and copies of the PT card. Taking everything at face value, this would be a clear IG complaint. If everything was done correctly they can&#39;t change your score just because &quot;I think&quot;. Under normal circumstance (non-COVID), if the 1SG doesn&#39;t believe the score he could make you take the APFT again where he observes, however it would only be a diagnostic the 2nd time. IAW AR 350-1, you cannot be compelled to take another record APFT within 4 months of successfully completing a record APFT (exception for attending PME). However, if you were compelled to take a diagnostic it would look pretty bad for you if you failed that diagnostic after having just passed the record the week prior...

2020-05-19T22:21:26-04:00 2020-05-19T22:21:26-04:00 SSG George Holtje 5912420

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>If the 1SG has a valid reason then yes. If the grader and soldier have nothing to hide then retaking it won’t be an issue. <br />The grader isnt doing the soldier any favors by letting him skate. <br />I’ve had to readminster APFTs because of pencil whipping

2020-05-19T22:50:52-04:00 2020-05-19T22:50:52-04:00 SSG Private RallyPoint Member 5913495

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>So is he questioning the NCOIC who administered the test, there should have been two, a grader and the NCOIC why is he questioning their integrity.

2020-05-20T08:01:29-04:00 2020-05-20T08:01:29-04:00 SFC Michael Hasbun 5913809

<div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Did the Commander approve the APFT before it was administered?

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