Can a advon group be relocated to white cell NTC ?

PFC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 24 Mar 2021 18:39:58 -0400

Quick question , rolling out to ntc in a week was told initially I was on white cell because I’m getting meb boarded with a permanent profile , now they’re saying I’m going with torch and advon group , my question is because I’m with the group does that mean I’m going in to the box?

Response by SSG Brian L. made Mar 24 at 2021 6:55 PM

SSG Brian L. — Wed, 24 Mar 2021 18:55:28 -0400

Why not ask your chain?

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 24 at 2021 7:02 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 24 Mar 2021 19:02:55 -0400

Did you ask your leadership what that means? I mean...no one on here can answer why your leadership changed around when you were leaving to go to NTC. Literally we can't answer this because we're not involved with their manning decisions.

You need to ask them why they moved you. Going on Torch or ADVON means you are just going ahead of main body. What they do with you when you get there is up to them.

Response by SSG Robert Perrotto made Mar 24 at 2021 7:19 PM

SSG Robert Perrotto — Wed, 24 Mar 2021 19:19:16 -0400

None of us here can help answer this question. We are not in your unit to know what the manning requirements are. Just because you have a P3 profile and are possibly being med boarded, does not mean you cannot do tasks and duties within the limit of your profile. Ask your leadership, only they have the right answers to give you.

Response by SFC Casey O'Mally made Mar 24 at 2021 9:03 PM

SFC Casey O'Mally — Wed, 24 Mar 2021 21:03:12 -0400

There are three different things here.

White Cell: Not going into the box. Provides administrative support in many different ways.
ADVON: Advance Party which goes ahead of the main bodies to help get things set up for Main Body arrival
Torch: Goes even before the rest of ADVON.

Torch is part of ADVON, but not all ADVON is torch. Torch/ADVON is PURELY about when you fly. It has NOTHING to do with White cell or "box" status.

Only your Chain of Command can answer questions about what you will be doing when you get there. That being said, most of the time, units prefer to have their "deployment team" going through rotations (even if not scheduled to deploy). If you are a known (or assumed) loss, they TEND to put you in thw white cell. But again.... it is up to the Chain of Command.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 24 at 2021 9:46 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 24 Mar 2021 21:46:23 -0400

Torch and ADVON isn't a section of people who are at NTC, it's a term for when you are traveling. ADVON and Torch are the first groups to leave, tail and trail are the last. White cell is the group that you will be in while you're at NTC. White cell is basically the detail group. Each unit has to give up a bunch of personnel for white cell to do things like clean bathrooms, empty trash, clean tents, and sort the recycling out of the dumpsters. Whether you will be on white cell or in the box is up to your command, but they have to provide someone and usually the profiles and MEBs are the ones who get put on it

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 25 at 2021 1:12 AM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 25 Mar 2021 01:12:03 -0400

The white cell typically goes out first to establish.

Response by CPL Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 29 at 2021 7:56 PM

CPL Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 29 Mar 2021 19:56:59 -0400

Im at NTC and yes eveyone will be going out to the box as far as I know. 4ID?