Can a cracked mirror deadline a vehicle?

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 17 Apr 2018 20:21:06 -0400

I researched everything i could (im a 91B) i kinda got sent to a detachment and pushed in to being a motor sergeant, now im stuck fixing a company and some faults just dont seem right to me?

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 17 at 2018 8:43 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 17 Apr 2018 20:43:01 -0400

Does it impede the drivers vision, it depends do you have the windows on stock does the ssa have the window on stock, can it be found on installation,

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 17 at 2018 9:22 PM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 17 Apr 2018 21:22:00 -0400

The TM will tell you under what circumstances this is a deadline. Generally, a crack in the rear view mirror does not deadline a vehicle unless it is that extreme that it completely blocks your view. However, in the PMCS section of the 10 manuals it will very specifically state if it does or not. If it is silent than the answer is no. That being said? The Commander can put their two cents in and say it is an admin deadline at their discretion.

Response by CW3 Jeff Held made Apr 17 at 2018 10:42 PM

CW3 Jeff Held — Tue, 17 Apr 2018 22:42:59 -0400

There are 3 sources for that;

1) -10TM. 2) AR 385-55 (Safety Reg), and 3) your Division/BDE/BN SOP’s.

Are you guys having trouble getting parts or is it mostly that you inherited a huge mess?

While you build technical competence and motivation in your mechanics and equipment operators you will need to scrounge for parts or trade. Look at your deadline report numerous times daily, and make sure all deadline parts are on order against the correct vehicles with a good status.

Do not hesitate to contact your Support Battalion (SPO) and get some help chasing parts and statuses.

Response by COL Charles Williams made Apr 17 at 2018 11:38 PM

COL Charles Williams — Tue, 17 Apr 2018 23:38:57 -0400

What does the TM say? SGT Private RallyPoint Member

Response by SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth made Apr 18 at 2018 6:22 AM

SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth — Wed, 18 Apr 2018 06:22:53 -0400

Depends on the severity, and which mirror is affected, the driver more readily relies on the left mirror.

Response by SGT Zak Baker made Apr 18 at 2018 2:16 PM

SGT Zak Baker — Wed, 18 Apr 2018 14:16:55 -0400

Hey SGT, whats the model of the vehicle and I could find that for you, it's gonna vary by TM.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 18 at 2018 5:54 PM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 18 Apr 2018 17:54:36 -0400

If it ain't bad let that shit bump as long as you can see out of it decent

Response by PV2 Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 18 at 2018 10:09 PM

PV2 Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 18 Apr 2018 22:09:16 -0400

Yes it does cause it blocks the vision of the driver..

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 19 at 2018 4:31 PM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 19 Apr 2018 16:31:15 -0400

A good practice would be to hold weekly classes on Command Maintenance Mondays, nothing crazy just a focus of the week and inform the operators of proper faults and how to fill out the paperwork properly, then ultimately hold the supervisors responsible to the deficiencies. It takes some time but we did it in a transportation company and it worked well.

To answer your question, i think it comes down to the severity of the crack. A crack itself doesnt deadline the vehicle but the lack of a mirror or a crack so bad there might as well not be a mirror would deadline the vehicle.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 20 at 2018 3:23 PM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 20 Apr 2018 15:23:15 -0400

It's a safety deadline. It can be circle x by commander signature

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 20 at 2018 7:37 PM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 20 Apr 2018 19:37:54 -0400

Technically yes but the Co can sign off on using it

Response by SSG Jason French made Apr 24 at 2018 9:25 AM

SSG Jason French — Tue, 24 Apr 2018 09:25:29 -0400

A cracked mirror? I think that is a operator level maint. Find the operator a mirror, if they say its deadlined look it up in the tm. If it is and you cant get a part, have the commander sign off that it is operational... takes a unit commander. Don't let some pogue try to skate on duty over a mirror.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made May 5 at 2018 3:47 AM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 05 May 2018 03:47:04 -0400

Depends on which mirror is cracked and how bad the crack is. I have seen cracks that are just simple every day faults and some that caused a vehicle to be deadlined and even some situations where it was on the commanders discretion who and when they were ok with the truck being used.

Response by SGM Bill Frazer made May 27 at 2018 5:56 PM

SGM Bill Frazer — Sun, 27 May 2018 17:56:38 -0400

It used to ban you from the ASP.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 20 at 2018 12:50 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 20 Jul 2018 12:50:04 -0400

A cracked mirror can have a slash. But it depend if that mirror can cause a blinding visual view to see out of then you can deadline it. It will be a safety deadline.