Can a different company's NCO enter a soldiers barracks room without the soldier present?

2017-07-26T16:26:16-04:00

Should an NCO from another company be able to enter a soldiers room wothout his consent or knowledge, and reprimand him for infractions found in said room?

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 26 at 2017 4:29 PM

2017-07-26T16:29:26-04:00

Is that NCO from a different unit on CQ and the barracks door was left unsecured?

Response by Sarah Zayas made Jul 26 at 2017 4:34 PM

2017-07-26T16:34:37-04:00

Interesting, thanks for asking this

Response by Cpl Justin Goolsby made Jul 26 at 2017 5:14 PM

2017-07-26T17:14:57-04:00

Yes. For example, while on Duty I am required to tour the barracks. While I am responsible for the barracks, I may be required to enter another Marine's room while they are not present. I've entered rooms to check in on the occupants, to escort maintenance personnel to fix issues, to help the fire marshalls inspect for safety, etc.

Now if I'm in a Marine's room and I find something out in the open (drugs, a gun, pets, etc) it is literally my duty to correct the infractions. To do otherwise would make me negligent of my responsibilities.

Also, reading your comments, you mentioned that all view was blocked from the outside. I don't know how the Army runs, but in the Marine Corps, all barracks rooms have the window blinds open when the occupants aren't present to prevent unsavory activities from happening in the room.

Response by Sgt William Rice made Jul 26 at 2017 6:18 PM

2017-07-26T18:18:13-04:00

Yep.

Response by PO2 Burton Hankins made Sep 19 at 2017 12:57 PM

2017-09-19T12:57:57-04:00

He best keep his ass out of my space or be shot for breaking and entering.

Response by SPC Manny Managuit made Nov 16 at 2017 11:52 PM

2017-11-16T23:52:08-05:00

Negative

Response by SSG Wilson Lucero made Jan 21 at 2018 10:46 AM

2018-01-21T10:46:16-05:00

No. Any NCO outside the chain of command need to go to that Soldier's unit first and make contact with the squad leader, platoon sergeant, 1SG etc. This NCO has no business doing that and is setting himself or herself up for failure! Unless that NCO is the facility manager for that building and is a representative of the battalion S4, then yes. That NCO can enter the rooms. Again, the NCO needs to contact the units first before going about it. The chain of command is going to want to know what is the nature of the visit or walk through.

Response by SSG Wilson Lucero made Jan 21 at 2018 10:57 AM

2018-01-21T10:57:52-05:00

I'm going to add more to this subject. Charge of Quarters, Staff Duty NCO will never enter a Soldier's room without the Soldier present! If there's an emergency or question, the smart thing to do is contact the Soldier's chain of command! Even housing or DPW is not going to go and enter a building or rooms without notifying the unit. I don't care if you're an NCO or not, you better have gone through proper authority before doing that! I guarantee this, any NCO entering a Soldier's room without the Soldier present and without permission from the unit is really going to be standing in front of their CSM for reprimand or Article 15! Common sense!

Response by CW3 Kevin Storm made Jan 21 at 2018 2:14 PM

2018-01-21T14:14:28-05:00

It is possible if say the BN CSM has him on a duty to do so.

Response by Sgt Van Livingston made Jul 12 at 2018 6:22 PM

2018-07-12T18:22:31-04:00

They shouldn't have access. The First Sargent has a master key to the barracks in his company as do the CQ at night and weekends. Another companies NCO should never be allowed access.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 14 at 2018 12:35 AM

2018-07-14T00:35:54-04:00

If they're the barracks manager or that soldier's roommate is his/her subordinate. Outside of that, no and even then, the barracks manager should be informing the tenant.

Response by PO1 Barbara Matthews made Jul 16 at 2018 1:12 AM

2018-07-16T01:12:24-04:00

When I was in the Navy I was a Corpsman I randomly picked rooms to do a health and comfort inspection. I was looking for bugs and general cleanliness. It wasn't a white glove thing. I was more concerned with the obvious. I generally notified either the Sailors or Marines chain of command if something was found. All of my reports were sent up my chain of command and then to the base Commander. So I was polite to give the heads up if I had a negative report.

Response by SGT Jesse Sizemore made Jul 17 at 2018 6:51 PM

2018-07-17T18:51:47-04:00

Chain of comand.

Response by 1SG William Galeener made Jul 20 at 2018 5:44 PM

2018-07-20T17:44:23-04:00

First I would need to know why is there an NCO from another Unit in my AO. If the NCO in question was not authorized by my Chain of Command then they are traspassing and are libel to get their feelings hurt.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 24 at 2018 11:21 PM

2018-07-24T23:21:05-04:00

Only the nco in charge of the barracks. Anyone else it's a no go.

Response by Sgt Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 4 at 2018 11:21 AM

2018-08-04T11:21:02-04:00

Someone from the individuals platoon/duty should be present.

Response by SPC Greg Campbell made Feb 21 at 2019 2:54 PM

2019-02-21T14:54:36-05:00

first we couldnt lock our doors when we were in our rooms. eventually we started locking them because whoever would just open the door and come in. this is my home, you wany me to just walk in your house? and while your at it, knock first, remembering wr dont have a basement

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 16 at 2019 6:22 PM

2019-08-16T18:22:02-04:00

if they are not charged with a duty that requires them to be inside of that room (i.e. CQ/SDNCO/MP) then no.

Response by SSG Jess Peters made Nov 5 at 2019 11:45 PM

2019-11-05T23:45:39-05:00

No. He isn't in the Soldies chain of command. If said NCO has a issue he should bring it up with the soldiers Squad leader platoon Sgt or 1SH

Response by SSG Jess Peters made Mar 8 at 2020 4:49 PM

2020-03-08T16:49:18-04:00

Absolutely not. Anyone not in the chain of command has no business in those barracks without an escort. On one occasion an NCO from another battery was caught trying to steal equipment off one of my vehicles. The next day he came to see me and claimed he list his wallet while doing so. He had the gall to call me a thief when I told him I had not found it. So no, stay out of where you don't belong.

Response by CPT Carolyn Andrews made Jul 5 at 2020 10:07 AM

2020-07-05T10:07:21-04:00

Unless the NCO was authorized by position such as BN Safety Officer or another capacity then he can only come into UR room as a guest of yours.

Response by SP5 Richard Welch made Aug 10 at 2020 4:00 PM

2020-08-10T16:00:53-04:00

No, the NCO must address your NCO with any concerns they have about you or contents of your room. Unless he witnesses an illegal act in progress, he has no authority to enter you room. This is an issue for your NCO, SFC, and 1st Sargent to address.

Response by CPL Jason Northedge made Jun 9 at 2021 1:18 PM

2021-06-09T13:18:11-04:00

Your NCO should have your back and put an end to the BS.

Response by MAJ Steve Warnerski made Aug 11 at 2022 9:20 AM

2022-08-11T09:20:56-04:00

Of course not, unless he hears or smells a crime being committed and he has a lawful reason for being in the immediate area. I.e., smells marijuana, hears a female screaming "rape," etc.