Can a negative NCOER trigger the QMP in FY23?

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 22 Sep 2022 18:17:40 -0400

I just received the first negative NCOER in my 12 years service. "DID NOT MEET STANDARD" in Character, "DID NOT MEET STANDARD" in rater's comment and "NOT QUALIFIED" from senior rater. When I looked into the MILPER 22-347, Procedures for the FY23 QMP, for the NCOER wise, only Relief for Cause NCOER trigger the QMP. But in the FY20 MILPER, it does says the NCOER with annotation of "Did Not Meet Standard" in block c (Character) falls into the catagory.
If the new MILPER removed it, does that means I am safe for now? Please correct me if I am wrong.

Response by COL Randall C. made Sep 22 at 2022 7:47 PM

COL Randall C. — Thu, 22 Sep 2022 19:47:48 -0400

It does read that way (only Remove for Cause evaluations will trigger the QMP), but if you want a definitive answer you should contact Enlisted Retirements and Separations (AHRC-EPF-M), [login to see] , DSN: 983-5465, email: [login to see] .

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 22 at 2022 8:27 PM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 22 Sep 2022 20:27:24 -0400

Well, if you don't face a QMP.....I really hope you can turn it around come next NCOER.

Response by CSM Darieus ZaGara made Sep 24 at 2022 8:26 AM

CSM Darieus ZaGara — Sat, 24 Sep 2022 08:26:45 -0400

It is not likely that you would be QMP for a single NCOER that not a relief for cause. However, it is highly unlikely that you will be selected for promotion anytime soon. Only you can turn this around, if your leadership chose to give you a wake up call as opposed to a relief, take it and turn yourself around.

You can recover and be selected at a future board, again only you can do this.

Response by SGM Jeff Mccloud made Sep 26 at 2022 9:07 AM

SGM Jeff Mccloud — Mon, 26 Sep 2022 09:07:39 -0400

If the Character Did Not Meet Standard is connected to a substantiated EO or SHARP investigation, then that substantiated investigation will trigger a QMP.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 26 at 2024 6:27 AM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 26 Jun 2024 06:27:33 -0400

Welp, I’m scrolling thru. Any update

Response by SSG Eric Blue made Jun 26 at 2024 1:04 PM

SSG Eric Blue — Wed, 26 Jun 2024 13:04:25 -0400

In my experience, it depends on who you make angry and who you make happy. I always had a good NCOER and I still got booted because of some BS. I had a tendency to do the right thing, as we were taught since basic training and THAT ALONE got me a lot of hate. But I've also seen plenty of substandard NCOs come through the ranks with a few of them receiving DID NOT MEET STANDARD on their NCOERs and they went on to get promoted to the next rank so they could F--- up another future leader's career. They were being coddled by (insert senior leader's name here) so they could keep getting whatever perks they were being given by that NCO. I didn't see it on the line as much as I saw it at Command & Staff, though. Whatever happens for you, I'm wishing you the best of luck in hopes that (1) you're able to shine a little brighter on your next NCOER and (2) that you don't get screwed over like I did.