Can a unit prevent a 25B soldier in the primary promotion zone from attending the board if they have not obtained Sec+?

2018-02-20T10:57:07-05:00

Response by CW2 Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 20 at 2018 11:40 AM

2018-02-20T11:40:06-05:00

I'm going to go on a limb here and say no. Although it is an essential certification to do your job in most units these days.

Also this is coming in May of 2018
https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2017/12/14/new-army-rule-automatically-sends-qualified-specialists-sergeants-to-promotion-boards/

New Army rule automatically sends qualified specialists, sergeants to promotion boards

If you’re an E-4 or E-5 looking to move up in the world, you’re at the mercy of your command for a recommendation to go to a promotion board. And sometimes, despite meeting every qualification, soldiers aren’t promoted because they haven’t caught leadership’s attention.

Response by SGM Erik Marquez made Feb 20 at 2018 11:49 AM

2018-02-20T11:49:32-05:00

As of today YES, as of March still YES, but it will take the BN CDR from that point on.

Response by SSG Jamil Spruill made Feb 20 at 2018 12:29 PM

2018-02-20T12:29:56-05:00

I've completed ALC & SSD2 in 2013 and SSD3

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 21 at 2018 9:21 AM

2018-02-21T09:21:38-05:00

As a 25B20 you are required to have certifications in order to become an Sys Admin in any system. If you can’t do your job, why should you be recommended to a board for promotion? One way to fix this. The test is even free with a voucher. Take the certification. I do understand that some just aren’t ready to test for this. As long as you are not in a supervisory position, you could take the two A+ certs.

AR 25-2 is a great tool. It lists tons of other regs also. I suggest you use the reg to your advantage. Don’t let it beat you down. Good luck!

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Feb 25 at 2018 2:33 PM

2018-02-25T14:33:08-05:00

What job can you do as a bravo without your Sec+ realistically? Especially as an NCO.
And what about others boarding? They dont have it?
Take a couple weeks, study, get it.

Response by SGM Bill Frazer made Feb 25 at 2018 8:04 PM

2018-02-25T20:04:03-05:00

If SEC+ is required for the MOS at NCO level- then you have not qualified for the MOS, therefore are not qualified for promotion in that MOS

Response by SFC Jorge Diaz Caro made Mar 2 at 2018 12:31 AM

2018-03-02T00:31:35-05:00

No it is not required, the army is trying to push it as a requirement for attending ALC . But the only requirment for promotion is ALC and SSD2. I got Sec + after I went to ALC

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 5 at 2018 10:33 AM

2018-03-05T10:33:07-05:00

I highly doubt it , considering I met plenty of promotable specialists and sergeants who had not obtained Security +. As long as you meet the requirements as per AR 600-8-19 (which say nothing about having certifications in order to attend a board), I do not see why they shouldn't allow you to attend a board, especially with the new policy.

Response by SFC Jorge Diaz Caro made Mar 13 at 2018 4:52 PM

2018-03-13T16:52:45-04:00

That is a negative, I was in the same shoes. Although it is a great thing to have per Advance Leader Ship School House requirements , you do not have to have it the Reg does not states that it is a mandatory requirement. I do recommend getting it anyways, it will set you apart from your peers.

Response by COL Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 2 at 2018 7:48 PM

2018-04-02T19:48:36-04:00

Sec+ is not a promotion requirement. They can however say most anything else to keep you from going forward. So while technically no the answer is yes.

Response by CPL(P) Kevin Koch made Dec 24 at 2018 2:43 AM

2018-12-24T02:43:25-05:00

I was promotable when I got out in 2012. From what I remember, the Sec+ certification was not a requirement. If so, then I would have been the only 25B in the battalion that could have gone to the board.

That said, look at points. I went to a 40 hour "boot camp" course prepairing for the certification. I was given a certificate of training signed by an O6. So the class gave me 40 hours of Military education. Then the certification itself gave me 10 semester hours of civilian education. It's all promotion points, so get em if you can. Also looks good on the NCOER, especially when those above you don't have it.