Posted on Feb 20, 2018
Can a unit prevent a 25B soldier in the primary promotion zone from attending the board if they have not obtained Sec+?
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Sec+ is not a promotion requirement. They can however say most anything else to keep you from going forward. So while technically no the answer is yes.
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SGM Erik Marquez
That statement agrees with what I have posted all along., May I ask, why did you down vote me then?
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As of today YES, as of March still YES, but it will take the BN CDR from that point on.
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SGM Erik Marquez
SSG (Join to see) -Your point is not valid, so I will not acknowledge it.
SM have been denied board appearances for copious reasons, why? Because the commander decided they were not ready...And the commanders reasoning??? Any damn thing they want it to be until a senior person told them otherwise.. NO regulation forbids that commanders decision.. You’re asking for cite of No regulation...lol . OK, I cite every AR and FM in the inventory, because the regulation that forbids a commander from making an arbitrary decision on board appearances does not exist…Or did not until recently.. As of May this year, that ability for a commander to make an arbitrary decision to refuse a board appearance goes away... That SGT is what you do not comprehend.
Best of luck to you, you have served what 8 years, been a SGT since 2017?... I'm sure it feels like you know everything...but after 28 years I accept I did not and learned I can learn from anyone .. you might give that a shot....
SM have been denied board appearances for copious reasons, why? Because the commander decided they were not ready...And the commanders reasoning??? Any damn thing they want it to be until a senior person told them otherwise.. NO regulation forbids that commanders decision.. You’re asking for cite of No regulation...lol . OK, I cite every AR and FM in the inventory, because the regulation that forbids a commander from making an arbitrary decision on board appearances does not exist…Or did not until recently.. As of May this year, that ability for a commander to make an arbitrary decision to refuse a board appearance goes away... That SGT is what you do not comprehend.
Best of luck to you, you have served what 8 years, been a SGT since 2017?... I'm sure it feels like you know everything...but after 28 years I accept I did not and learned I can learn from anyone .. you might give that a shot....
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SGM Erik Marquez
SSG (Join to see) - Lets try this SGT.... Can you cite the AR passage that has a definitive list of the commander justifications for denying a SM going to the promotion board?
I'm open to learning something new, but in a lot of years I've never seen such a definitive closed ended list. And the way I read the reg now, it states its a commanders decision .....
I'm open to learning something new, but in a lot of years I've never seen such a definitive closed ended list. And the way I read the reg now, it states its a commanders decision .....
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SGM Erik Marquez is actually right - a commander (until 1 May) could deny anyone going to a promotion board for ANY reason BUT that soldier has to be counseled as to why they were not recommended for promotion.
After 1 May it takes a BN commander to disapprove primary zone promotion board appearances and in writing.
You're both right - that's the point he's getting at SGT Ryan Styron. You don't need technical certification to get promoted BUT a commander could deny it for that reason if he or she wanted to do so.
After 1 May it takes a BN commander to disapprove primary zone promotion board appearances and in writing.
You're both right - that's the point he's getting at SGT Ryan Styron. You don't need technical certification to get promoted BUT a commander could deny it for that reason if he or she wanted to do so.
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I was promotable when I got out in 2012. From what I remember, the Sec+ certification was not a requirement. If so, then I would have been the only 25B in the battalion that could have gone to the board.
That said, look at points. I went to a 40 hour "boot camp" course prepairing for the certification. I was given a certificate of training signed by an O6. So the class gave me 40 hours of Military education. Then the certification itself gave me 10 semester hours of civilian education. It's all promotion points, so get em if you can. Also looks good on the NCOER, especially when those above you don't have it.
That said, look at points. I went to a 40 hour "boot camp" course prepairing for the certification. I was given a certificate of training signed by an O6. So the class gave me 40 hours of Military education. Then the certification itself gave me 10 semester hours of civilian education. It's all promotion points, so get em if you can. Also looks good on the NCOER, especially when those above you don't have it.
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