Can an IET SM keep their orders to Bragg if they fail airborne school?

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 20 Oct 2020 19:44:02 -0400

I need some advice: An IET Soldier is facing either being recycled or admin dropped from airborne school. Their family, pets, and belongings are already at Bragg. Their CO and 1SG are offering to bend over backwards to find a way to keep that Soldier at Bragg, if they choose to be dropped, but I’m now wanting to know if that’s possible? I know there are non-airborne qualified people here, at Bragg, but how would it work to keep a non-airborne Soldier at an airborne unit? Lat move to a non-airborne unit regardless of MOS? I’d hate for a 14 series SM to not be able to grow into their MOS. The only ADA BDE here is airborne. Their CO said it’s possible. Anybody with experience?

Response by SGM Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 20 at 2020 7:49 PM

SGM Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 20 Oct 2020 19:49:35 -0400

Not all the 108th ADA BDE is Airborne

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 20 at 2020 7:50 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 20 Oct 2020 19:50:04 -0400

Ok since you are specifically talking ADA....there are 2 battallions within 108th bde. 3/4 and 1/7. Only 1 battery in 3/4 is airborne. The rest of the ada folks are 14e, 14t and 14g. If he is one of those, he needs to talk to the bn csm (I'm assuming he is with 3/4) and see about getting moved to one of the non airborne batteries in his battalion (or over to 1/7)

Response by MAJ Javier Rivera made Oct 20 at 2020 8:05 PM

MAJ Javier Rivera — Tue, 20 Oct 2020 20:05:05 -0400

Impossible? No. Hard? Yes. The unit (at the appropriate command level) needs to work with HRC; remember, MTOE authorization stills in effect!

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 20 at 2020 8:16 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 20 Oct 2020 20:16:51 -0400

I was stationed at Bragg, 82. ABN DIV. I had quite a few of my Soldiers who were not ABN qualified and they stayed with us. As long as the unit accepts them, nothing can change it. Of course we had BDE CDR down to company CDR accept those soldiers. Even though four of them failed/admin dropped from the school. So yes CDR has that discretion and he/she can make that call as long as S/he can justify their stance to BDE cdr

Response by CSM Charles Hayden made Oct 20 at 2020 8:48 PM

CSM Charles Hayden — Tue, 20 Oct 2020 20:48:36 -0400

SGT Private RallyPoint Member Why don’t they simply recycle? My brother did twice, then on his third recycle he QUIT! This was in the early 1969s.

Response by SGM Bill Frazer made Oct 20 at 2020 9:43 PM

SGM Bill Frazer — Tue, 20 Oct 2020 21:43:13 -0400

He could re-cycle, and not all the ADA Bde at Bragg has airborne slots. He need to make some phone calls, ASAP>

Response by CWO3 Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 20 at 2020 10:52 PM

CWO3 Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 20 Oct 2020 22:52:37 -0400

Just don't forget the chute. That's probably a hard drop.

Response by SP5 Richard Welch made Oct 21 at 2020 12:06 PM

SP5 Richard Welch — Wed, 21 Oct 2020 12:06:48 -0400

Only people we had without jump status that remained in Airborne Units were those with a medical reason preventing them from jumping. Unless we kept our jump status, we weren't able to stay in our unit or 82nd.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 21 at 2020 9:18 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 21 Oct 2020 21:18:28 -0400

Usually yes. There are plenty of non-airborne units on Bragg

Response by 1SG Fernando Perez made Oct 22 at 2020 1:15 PM

1SG Fernando Perez — Thu, 22 Oct 2020 13:15:08 -0400

If he volunteered to go Airborne in the first place, He should recycled. And there thousands of songs fliers station at Fort Bragg that are not Airborne. We used to call them leg town which mostly belong to COSCOM units.