Can an NCO give extra duty without an Article 15 and which ADP covers extra duty and corrective training?

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 24 Jun 2016 11:16:22 -0400

Response by CSM Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 24 at 2016 11:19 AM

CSM Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 24 Jun 2016 11:19:51 -0400

No a NCO cannot give extra duty, only the commander can give a Soldier extra duty as punishment. A NCO can give corrective training to a Soldier but it must be directly related to the deficiency.

EXAMPLE: PVT Snuffy shows up to formation in the wrong uniform after the correct uniform was put out.

SSG Hardcore requires PVT Snuffy to report to the CQ desk three times a day. In the morning PVT Snuffy will be in APFU. In the afternoon he will be in duty uniform and in the evening he will be in ASUs. SSG Hardcore will be present to inspect PVT Snuffy each time.

AR 600-20

Response by 1SG Christopher Verga made Jun 24 at 2016 11:26 AM

1SG Christopher Verga — Fri, 24 Jun 2016 11:26:09 -0400

NCOs can not give extra duty. They can give corrective training. With the corrective training the punishment must fit the crime. Extra duty can be imposed under ARTICLE 15, the NCO can recommend a punishment of extra duty to the commander, though can not impose it. Hope this helps.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 24 at 2016 11:27 AM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 24 Jun 2016 11:27:41 -0400

We give corrective training, not extra duty.

Response by SPC John Lebiecki made Jun 24 at 2016 11:45 AM

SPC John Lebiecki — Fri, 24 Jun 2016 11:45:39 -0400

Extra Duty- No.
Corrective Training- Yes. Someone here already said it, it has to relate to the issue at hand.

Most of the time, it is in the best interest for all parties involved to accept Corrective Training as it will not involve a paper trail for misconduct.

Response by MSgt Bruce Hutchinson made Jun 25 at 2016 9:35 AM

MSgt Bruce Hutchinson — Sat, 25 Jun 2016 09:35:21 -0400

I had an airman while at Kuwait decide to come in late for his 12 hr shift. This SNCOs corrective training was to tack on an hour ( next of fence was 2hrs to his shift. Now since the work had already been assigned and an extra body would have messed up my night shifts work flow, I needed to assign the airman a task for those extra hrs, right? He washed my vehicles and dos FIDwalks through my cargo yard until he Kleenex the importance of setting his alarm clock.

Response by MCPO Roger Collins made Jun 25 at 2016 10:10 AM

MCPO Roger Collins — Sat, 25 Jun 2016 10:10:21 -0400

Extra Duty is not a legal option for anyone to give without an Article 15 charge. It is and was a means of punishment used to avoid going the next step, and it was a good thing, unless it was abused. Better to have a little extra work over a fouled record.