Posted on Mar 8, 2019
SGT Joseph Gunderson
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CPT Jack Durish
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No. They may try but they lie
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SGT Joseph Gunderson
SGT Joseph Gunderson
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Yeah, I'm looking forward to those arguments.
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SSgt Terry P.
SSgt Terry P.
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CPT Jack Durish Nail 'em,CPT. No way Nohow.
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MSG Stan Hutchison
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Can anyone explain where in the Constitution it specifies what type of economic system we can have?
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SGT Joseph Gunderson
SGT Joseph Gunderson
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Article I actually does restrict the circumstances and means by which the government is authorized to tax or place duties on products, labor, and people. Following these restrictions, the practice of socialism would not be authorized as it would require government intervention to ensure socioeconomic equality across the board.
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MSG Stan Hutchison
MSG Stan Hutchison
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SGT Joseph Gunderson - That's your interpretation. Not every American's.
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SGT Joseph Gunderson
SGT Joseph Gunderson
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MSG Stan Hutchison - You should really go read it. It is rather straight forward and requires very little "interpretation". In addition, Fed. 10 actually references the need to ensure the minority that 'feels' it is dispossessed and in need of wealth from gaining the power to strip earned wealth from others and divide it among themselves. Go do some reading and get back to me as to how much interpretation is really necessary, bud.
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MSG Stan Hutchison
MSG Stan Hutchison
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Done it, bud.
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SSG Robert Perrotto
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It is not in line with the constitution at all - when the constitution was written it specifically stated what the central government was responsible for, and financial, health, educational well being of it's citizens were not included, those aspects were to be determined by the states. as free reign capitalism raged in the 1800's and early 1900's, severe abuses of workers was determined to be a serious threat to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness, along with violations of civil rights, the states had hodge podge laws and policies that differed so radically from state to state that it was determined that a uniform standard of laws be adopted that each state was obligated to follow. The great depression in the 1930's led to hundreds of thousands of people out of work, food, housing and it was determined that the Government should have some role in the welfare of it's citizens. hence a bunch of social programs and social nets were created, again in a uniform standard that the states could add to, but not take away. As the years went by, more and more social programs were added, Social Security, medicare were added to take care of our elderly as life expectancy rose past the abilty to work. So here we are today.

The question we should be asking is - when does individual liberty get trumped by the "greater good" or, why should those that succeed in life ( I am not talking about the 1%, I am talking about the top 50%) be responsible for those that failed to achieve.
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SGT Joseph Gunderson
SGT Joseph Gunderson
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Capt Gregory Prickett - Because your education doesn't mean a thing if you have no ability to critically think. I have met too many PhDs who espouse the same garbage without being able to explain how these systems work and how they fall in line with American values and rule of law. It is a fact that we have social safety nets enacted in our govt system. That does not make us a socialist country. The fact is that socialism does require extensive govt regulation that is wildly out of line with our constitution and you have failed to show how it isn't.
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CPT Jack Durish
CPT Jack Durish
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Capt Gregory Prickett - I try to stay away from your more inane comments, but when you are merely insulting, you need to be called out. Please show some respect. All here serve/have served and deserve that respect
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SSG Robert Perrotto
SSG Robert Perrotto
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CPT Jack Durish - Sir, I believe that unpleasant exchange was a two way street, and to single one out over the other is a bit deceiving. Respect goes both ways, and no where did Capt Pricket present a racial or socialist rebuttal to what I wrote. He misunderstood an aspect of my post, presented a clarification on what he thought my meaning was, and I then clarified my meaning, in which he then understood.
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SSG Robert Perrotto
SSG Robert Perrotto
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Capt Gregory Prickett - Sir - this doesn't help. Folks need to stop with the ad hominem attacks, as the only thing it will accomplish is further stupidity, closing of minds, and further polarization. Right now, I see nothing but a group of children in a schoolyard pointing fingers at each other and calling names. I do not see officers and NCO's. It saddens me.
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