Can I be chaptered out for ABCP failure if I have 57 days left until ETS?

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 19 Nov 2019 10:06:08 -0500

I was just wondering if that was possible or what could possibly happen. I have 57 total days left until my ets on January 15th. And I also have 32 ETS days so I'd be taking ETS leave in December?

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 19 at 2019 10:11 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 19 Nov 2019 10:11:06 -0500

Yes, you absolutely can. Also, leave is at the approval of your commander and they can deny all your ETS leave because you're flagged if they choose.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 19 at 2019 10:12 AM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 19 Nov 2019 10:12:03 -0500

I doubt the Command will submit a Chapter packet as the packet will take much longer to complete. Chances are you will just ETS with a FLAG on your record. But, get with your NCOs and submit this RFI up the Chain.

Response by MAJ Javier Rivera made Nov 19 at 2019 10:24 AM

MAJ Javier Rivera — Tue, 19 Nov 2019 10:24:57 -0500

Can you? Yes!!!! Will your CoC proceed? Hard to know, but be sure they will squeeze your neck until the very last day.

Here is a little unknown fact: Senior Commanders love units statistics, which among other things, includes unit’s APFT (or whatever it is now called). Your failure dropped this number and your command group might not be very happy. Not only that, they will carry you in the unit’s manning roster until your effective ETS, not when you sign on Terminal Leave. Which by the way, they don’t have any obligation to approve it.

Nevertheless, check they your NCO Support Channel on how they recommend to proceed. You could get a nice Christmas surprise !!!!

Best of lucks o your future endeavors !!!!!!

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 19 at 2019 11:27 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 19 Nov 2019 11:27:17 -0500

Did you see a nutritionist? Did you get tape-tested on a regular? How often were you counseled on paper with follow-up actions?

Response by CAPT Kevin B. made Nov 19 at 2019 2:55 PM

CAPT Kevin B. — Tue, 19 Nov 2019 14:55:15 -0500

You didn't mention where you are in the process that follows the ABCP failure, i.e. counseling, opportunity to come into compliance, etc. Bottom line, the Command knows you'll be gone. The Military is like a business in that most everything is done down the path of least resistance and least level of effort. That will likely be your outcome UNLESS you give a reason not to. Either outcome is an Honorable Discharge, but pay attention to the RE Code that will wind up on your DD-214. Sometimes there are parting shots which are inappropriate, but casually slipped in. You'd need to talk to more knowledgeable folk on what the RE Code options are.

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Nov 21 at 2019 6:34 PM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 21 Nov 2019 18:34:23 -0500

Thanks everyone who commented! I should have been more specific as in I'm not currently being chaptered and no paperwork has been started like that. but I dont realistically think I can make my next weight being it's the lightest I've been in a long time. Again thanks everyone I just wanted to hear opinions of those that have been in longer then me!

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 22 at 2019 1:18 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 22 Dec 2019 13:18:47 -0500

As a previous reconditioning pt instructor, I can tell you yes they can. It will more than likely take longer than your ETS so somebody might lean more towards letting you ETS. Don't rock the boat because you are getting out tho, the C.O.C. can and more than likely will have fun playing reindeer games with your leave and exit date.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 5 at 2020 6:13 AM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 05 Jan 2020 06:13:21 -0500

Should not be because you have to do a ets physical. Than after that you will not be required to pt