Can I be separated being on P2 permanent profile but failing apft’s? Or can they only separate through a MEB being on P2 profile?

PFC Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 03 Jun 2019 17:25:54 -0400

I’m on a P2 permanent profile. I failed 1 PT test before being put on the profile and failed 3 PT tests after within the last 3 months. Is there a possibility of my CoC trying to chapter me for apft failures or does my permanent profile keep them from chaptering me that way? I’m worried because I cannot be seen to ask for a MEB for another few weeks.

Response by SGT Joseph Gunderson made Jun 3 at 2019 5:49 PM

SGT Joseph Gunderson — Mon, 03 Jun 2019 17:49:56 -0400

I don't know the answer to your question but I am very curious as to how a PFC already has a permanent profile?

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 3 at 2019 6:24 PM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 03 Jun 2019 18:24:19 -0400

Your P2 will not get you Chaptered. How do I know? I have a P2 profile. What will get you Chaptered is your APFT failures. Your P2 will not save you from being an APFT Chapter. And you probably will not be granted an MEB for a P2. A P3, yes. But not a P2.

Response by SPC Michelle Goodhart made Jun 3 at 2019 9:38 PM

SPC Michelle Goodhart — Mon, 03 Jun 2019 21:38:04 -0400

I had a P2 profile and still passed all my APFTs. You have to pass them to stay in the Army. You do not get an MEB for a P2.

Response by SSG Dale London made Jun 3 at 2019 9:56 PM

SSG Dale London — Mon, 03 Jun 2019 21:56:26 -0400

I expect you have had your last bite at the cherry unless you can pass the APFT and convince your CO to halt chapter action.
If you cannot pass the APFT, my advice is to get ready for civvie street by making sure you have every piece of paper they ever gave you with your name on it, make sure your medical record is up to date and get a copy of it. Keep these records as if your life depends on it because, later in life, your livelihood might.
If you are P2 because of something that happened in the army, get ahold of the VA as soon as you are 120 days out and start your disability compensation application.

Response by SSG Jason Neumann made Jun 3 at 2019 9:56 PM

SSG Jason Neumann — Mon, 03 Jun 2019 21:56:32 -0400

Just like what the other Soldiers have stated having a P2 profile doesn’t make you immune to taking an APFT. If your PA asks you what can you do in an APFT but you can’t do all of them, do the Alt events. If that’s a no go, be prepared to be chaptered.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 4 at 2019 12:46 AM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 04 Jun 2019 00:46:54 -0400

Your doctor ask what you can and can’t do. If there are events you can’t meet the standard on you should have told them. Now that being stated, how do you figure your getting an MEB with only three months of time of seeing doctor?

Response by CSM Darieus ZaGara made Jun 4 at 2019 6:02 AM

CSM Darieus ZaGara — Tue, 04 Jun 2019 06:02:38 -0400

The APFT failure will result in a chapter, P2 is a low rating for a permanent profile and you can continue to serve, no MEB authorized. Be prepared to be chartered, you have no argument toward any other form of separation, unless you are re-evaluated at a P3. Good luck.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 4 at 2019 1:39 PM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 04 Jun 2019 13:39:49 -0400

my question is: why are you failing APFTs? I've had P2 profiles for the last 14 years and never failed an APFT. And you will not get med boarded for a P2 profile.

Response by SSG Kasius McCall made Jun 4 at 2019 8:52 PM

SSG Kasius McCall — Tue, 04 Jun 2019 20:52:56 -0400

I'm surprised your CoC hasn't started chapter paperwork already. You will likely, very likely, to not be MEB for a P2 profile. MEB is triggered for people that have P3 or P4 profiles. Your best course of action is to just pass a PT test. If you cant do that, you're looking at a ticket out of the army. It's an honorable discharge though.