Can I change MOS from 11C to 11B?

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 28 Jan 2020 14:32:52 -0500

To go off of my last question many of you helped me with, they gave the top 10 soldiers for the prior service guys the opportunity to get shipped if we went 11C, i volunteered just to get out of here quicker. I've been told i could switch to 11B once i get to my duty station by putting in a 4187 packet. Is it really that easy ? Also do 11C get slots a lot of slots for airborne ? i want to go airborne as well.

Response by CW2 Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 28 at 2020 2:35 PM

CW2 Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 28 Jan 2020 14:35:28 -0500

The answer to both of your questions is yes. You can always reclass with approval from your chain of command. Approval will depend on the strength of your mos in your current unit. If they need 11Cs they most likely will not approve. Also, anyone can go to airborne school.

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 28 at 2020 2:47 PM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 28 Jan 2020 14:47:09 -0500

The old " we will get you out of here quicker" trick, Works every time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Response by 1SG Dennis Hicks made Jan 28 at 2020 2:48 PM

1SG Dennis Hicks — Tue, 28 Jan 2020 14:48:29 -0500

Needs of the gaining unit, the best answer is to see what they need and how open they are to you changing over. My son is an 11C and Big Army is short chucks.

Response by SPC Erich Guenther made Jan 28 at 2020 3:51 PM

SPC Erich Guenther — Tue, 28 Jan 2020 15:51:27 -0500

Ah the wonderous Form 4187, which carries absolutely no weight whatsoever if submitted by a Soldier of low rank. Eventually, they will get tired of the 4187 submissions and let your 1SG know your submitting extraneous paperwork in which case you will be told to stop. At any rate, to answer your question 11C's are taught everything a 11B is taught. So it is just a matter of waiting for the inevitable oversupply of 11C's and shortage of 11B's. The pendulum seems to always swing both ways. Then ask your 1SG if you can switch officially in your records.

Response by MAJ Matthew Arnold made Jan 28 at 2020 3:57 PM

MAJ Matthew Arnold — Tue, 28 Jan 2020 15:57:33 -0500

Can I just say, slow down young man. You may even like being a mortar man. A little 11C time will make you a better platoon sargeant when that time comes. I’m sure you’ll be a great infantry man no matter what you decide.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 28 at 2020 4:43 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 28 Jan 2020 16:43:31 -0500

It's not that easy, but it's not that hard either.
When you get to your duty station you will have to request a memo from the Infantry proponent stating you're qualified in the MOS. You take that to the Career Counselor who will send the request to HRC for a Reclass without Training. HRC decides based on the strengths of the MOS whether or not to change your MOS.
Yes, there are Airborne 11C, and there is always a need in the 75th for 11C if you really want a challenge.

Response by SFC James Cameron made Jan 28 at 2020 5:32 PM

SFC James Cameron — Tue, 28 Jan 2020 17:32:25 -0500

Not going to happen brother. Look at it this way, Chucks usually kill more per shot that Bravos. Anything that expanded my killing radius I was a fan of. One of the Mortar Course Instructors was the BDE S3 NCOIC before he retired. There’s a lot of knowledge on that side of the house.

Response by SFC James Cameron made Jan 28 at 2020 5:33 PM

SFC James Cameron — Tue, 28 Jan 2020 17:33:41 -0500

Airborne Rangers have mortars too by the way.

Response by MSG Dan Castaneda made Jan 28 at 2020 8:49 PM

MSG Dan Castaneda — Tue, 28 Jan 2020 20:49:49 -0500

Why would you want to? Man I love mortars.

Response by PFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 28 at 2020 10:27 PM

PFC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 28 Jan 2020 22:27:32 -0500

From the few 11C’s I know they couldn’t really swap over to 11B, but honestly none of them want to, you learn everything the Bravos know and more, and when you finish basic at Benning they “Should” offer Airborne and Ranger options to all the 11 series guys, Pro Tip, always take the Airborne option, because at the end of Airborne then they always offer Ranger Option again but not the other way around.

Response by PV2 Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 29 at 2020 3:28 PM

PV2 Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 29 Jan 2020 15:28:13 -0500

Don’t change it up man. You’ll learn to love Mortars once you understand what you’ll be doing. You’ll feel proud of what you do, just because it’s such a small world in the Army.
-Very Satisfied Mortarman

Response by Sgt Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 29 at 2020 8:39 PM

Sgt Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 29 Jan 2020 20:39:11 -0500

Yeah it’s easy. I did it but in the guard

Response by CSM Tom Satterly made Jan 30 at 2020 11:05 AM

CSM Tom Satterly — Thu, 30 Jan 2020 11:05:51 -0500

Depending on your command, you can usually submit a 4187 but I’m sure needs of the army will have something to do with it. Are you near re-enlistment and if so ask for junpmschool then if you can’t get a slot

Response by LTC Jason Mackay made Jan 30 at 2020 6:25 PM

LTC Jason Mackay — Thu, 30 Jan 2020 18:25:49 -0500

11C can go to airborne. Airborne isn’t determined by MOS, it’s determined by PPPs, paid parachute positions on the MTOE you’ll go to. If you didn’t want 11C you shouldn’t have volunteered.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 30 at 2020 7:51 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 30 Jan 2020 19:51:41 -0500

As a former 11C 120mm bang bang, my old PSG back in the day used to rag on the 11M, 11H, and 11B out of fun by saying 11Cs was the real infantry. He asked, once you disable the Bradley, disable the TOW, and pin down the 11Bs in a corner, who will save the day? The mighty mighty 11C............ High Angle Hell, Death and Destruction from above. Hang It !!!!! Fire!!!! Boom! Stay 11C

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 31 at 2020 4:54 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 31 Jan 2020 16:54:16 -0500

None of my chucks would have ever made that choice. As several have said, be a chuck and gain experience first. Make an education decision.

Response by SSG George Holtje made Jan 31 at 2020 5:04 PM

SSG George Holtje — Fri, 31 Jan 2020 17:04:59 -0500

I was an 11c that reclassify to 11b because we were over strength on 11c. I’ve never seen an over strength Mortar section but that was fine because someone was determined to send me to FT Hood when I wanted to go Light. Give it some time though Mortars are fun too.

Response by LTC Ken Bowers made Jan 31 at 2020 5:12 PM

LTC Ken Bowers — Fri, 31 Jan 2020 17:12:08 -0500

11C are typically a short comodity. As an 11C you can compete for the expert Infantry badge, or be awarded the CIB for service in combat zone. If you remain a Mortatman through E7 you could be a company 1SG and Operations SGT. There's also assignment to Weapons company 120MM Platoon. Being a Mortarman is nothing to sneeze at! Good luck!