Can I do anything to change my orders after reenlistment?

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 03 Aug 2017 08:36:09 -0400

Question was answered thank you all for the input. Most of you told me to read the contract however I don't think you read the post.

Response by SPC Sheila Lewis made Aug 3 at 2017 8:50 AM

SPC Sheila Lewis — Thu, 03 Aug 2017 08:50:24 -0400

First of all, take a deep breath and calm down. Is it possible to talk with your 1SG? Let all those involved know what You hope to achieve in your career. Talking things out is the first step to fixing a situation.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 3 at 2017 9:04 AM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 03 Aug 2017 09:04:39 -0400

This begs two questions. One, have you talked to Retention, and what did they say?

And two, the obvious one on everyone's mind... Every soldier knows to always verify in writing. Why didn't you check the contract?

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 3 at 2017 9:06 AM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 03 Aug 2017 09:06:17 -0400

Be careful when accusing someone of lying. Lying indicates intent to mislead you. That's hard to prove even if it's true. Is there a chance that there was just a misunderstanding? Or maybe they meant well but were just wrong about something. Either way, the onus is on you to make sure your paperwork says what it's supposed to say before you sign it. So talk to your chain of command but keep it respectful and don't accuse anyone of anything you aren't able to prove. Admit your mistake ("I didn't do my research..."). If they can help, great. If not, chalk it up to life teaching you a lesson and move on. Life can be a cruel teacher and at sometime or another, we're all students of it.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 3 at 2017 9:18 AM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 03 Aug 2017 09:18:10 -0400

I was given my papers to sign 5 minutes before my ceremony, and told the "regular army reenlistment option RCN:3305629" was my stabilization. With the retention code given by my unit it was explained that I would have another year added to my current stabilization here.

Update: Just found out that my retention code was lifted early so I could be reassigned. As this code is internal I have seen this a few times however it has always been at the request of the service member to choose a duty station, re-class or go to a special school, never for standard PCS.

Response by SGM Erik Marquez made Aug 3 at 2017 9:19 AM

SGM Erik Marquez — Thu, 03 Aug 2017 09:19:08 -0400

Personal responsibility is foremost here..
The option YOU reenlisted for was written on the document in plain English, not code.
It said
Regular Army Reenlistment Option 1
or
Current Station Stabilization Reenlistment Option 2
The document you signed had everything you needed to know on it, did you read it?
The reality of what each reenlistment options gets you are readily available to all...so yes, it was YOUR responsibility to research what you wanted from your reenlistment.

So after that...
Option 2, Current Station Stabilization Reenlistment Option only guarantees 1-12 months at that unit, after that you are needs of the Army... its not unheard of for an SM to get PCS orders 5-6-7- months after reenlisting Option 2. So your not out all that much with option 2.
Lastly before you start tossing around "He lied to me" keep in mind, people HEAR what they want to hear, not alway what is said. Thats why its always best to follow up verbal conversations with an email or letter so both parties can agree with what was said is what was heard.. Or better, a verbal agreement is codified in a contract document to be read by both parties before being signed and becoming a valid agreement.

My opinion, you learned a valuable lesson that only cost you some hard feelings..... You did not lose your life or life of another, no lost wages or job, not a single person was harmed in your mistake and life lesson.
I agree and understand it SUCKS,,,, you were looking forward to A and you signed up for B, thats frustrating and disappointing.. but it is what it is.
If you really feel you were intentionally lied to with forethought and malice, go see the commander. Reenlistment is a commanders program, though their designated representative the retention NCO. If the NCO is lying to achieve unit goals, that is a direct reflection on the commander ,,,and likely they will not take that well. However, have your facts and evidence documents all lined up before accusing someone and taking it to the commander.

Response by PVT Raymond Lopez made Aug 3 at 2017 9:32 AM

PVT Raymond Lopez — Thu, 03 Aug 2017 09:32:34 -0400

SGT Cody Bush WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE!! You should pay attention to what you were told!!! Your Sergeant Major thinks you have the potential for greater responsibility and career enhancement!! I learned something over a half a century ago when a senior non commissioned officer thinks you have potential, DO NOT ARGUE WITH HIM OR HER THEY ARE TRYING TO TAKE CARE OF YOU!!!!

Response by MSG Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 3 at 2017 9:56 AM

MSG Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 03 Aug 2017 09:56:45 -0400

Well, every time I re-enlisted, the Retention NCO and I sat down and went over EVERYTHING written on the contract. I didn't initial or sign unless what I was to be getting was supposed to be written down.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 3 at 2017 10:47 AM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 03 Aug 2017 10:47:42 -0400

So you are saying that you didn't read the contract when it came time to sign... SMH.
You are killing me, Sergeant.
At this point, your best bet is to try to amend the contract, which if the Retention folks were honest about and forgot to enclose, shouldn't be too hard.

Response by SFC J Fullerton made Aug 3 at 2017 11:18 AM

SFC J Fullerton — Thu, 03 Aug 2017 11:18:36 -0400

Always the first reaction to a misunderstanding with a recruiter or re-up NCO is " I got lied to". The retention NCO has nothing to gain by the re-enlistment option you re-up'ed for. Chance's are there was an error or something is misunderstood somewhere. Sounds like its all six in one hand, and half dozen in the other anyway. But you shouldn't automatically assume you were "lied to". That is just jumping to conclusions because of the perceptions and stereotypes associated with retention NCO's/recruiters. And, as you have already heard, you should hold yourself accountable for not reading your contract and asking questions before you signed.

Response by 1SG Brian Adams made Aug 3 at 2017 11:37 AM

1SG Brian Adams — Thu, 03 Aug 2017 11:37:03 -0400

SGT Bush.
Chalk this up as a lesson learned. I can tell you a few stories like a time when a CSM tore up my OCS packet and threw into a trash bin. Read everything carefully, the best news is that you did re-enlist and stayed in the Army. I have had some tough breaks as well as great assignments in my career.
Make the best of each assignment and thanks for staying "Army" hoooah!!!

Response by SSG Robert Perrotto made Aug 3 at 2017 12:45 PM

SSG Robert Perrotto — Thu, 03 Aug 2017 12:45:58 -0400

Do people not read what they sign anymore? You freaking signed it, the onus is on you to verify what it is your are signing. Personal responsibility. Sucks that it happened, but no one to blame but yourself. I had this happen to me on my second re enlistment, I refused to sign until it got corrected.

Response by Sgt Wayne Wood made Aug 3 at 2017 2:53 PM

Sgt Wayne Wood — Thu, 03 Aug 2017 14:53:15 -0400

Roflmao!

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 5 at 2017 4:37 AM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 05 Aug 2017 04:37:41 -0400

I'm sure all of us have learned first hand at one point or another that just because someone outranks you, doesn't necessarily mean they know more than you do. I wish I had an answer that could help you out Sergeant but unfortunately it all falls on the individual. Hope things go well for you, good luck.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 5 at 2017 1:08 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 05 Aug 2017 13:08:17 -0400

As long as you have not burnt your bridges it is as simple as some paperwork to make corrections to your reenlistment paperwork. I personally had to do this when I reenlisted and found out after the fact that I was eligible for a bonus. There is a process to make corrections to a reenlistment

Response by PFC John Hopping made Aug 5 at 2017 1:38 PM

PFC John Hopping — Sat, 05 Aug 2017 13:38:53 -0400

It's always been pretty simple. The military can send you wherever whenever they choose. You are U.S. Government property.

Response by SSG Todd Halverson made Aug 5 at 2017 1:41 PM

SSG Todd Halverson — Sat, 05 Aug 2017 13:41:30 -0400

With you still being a Soldier, you need to be very careful when accusing a fellow NCO and a 1SG of lying to you. If someone in your chain of command were to see this thread, you could face punitive punishment. If you feel things were not correct on your contract; 1. You should have read it over and asked questions if something did not look right. 2. Have them make the corrections to the contract. 3. You should not have signed it if you did not agree with it. 4. Talk to retention and ask them about it now since you have already signed it. 5. If it is what it is, suck it up buttercup if there is nothing to be done.
I know when I last re-enlisted, they had to make changes a couple of times because I was told I could get certain things. The thing is, we are all human and sometimes things get missed from conversation to putting it on paper. Probably just an honest mistake.

Response by CPL Jay Strickland made Aug 5 at 2017 2:12 PM

CPL Jay Strickland — Sat, 05 Aug 2017 14:12:35 -0400

I do not know if I would go so far as lying. If the retention NCO printed the wrong contract by mistake you may have a defense to the contract and may be able to get the army to void that contract and have them issue the correct contract. This would be called mutual mistake. You should immediately seek an attorney to discuss this with or at least discuss this with legal.

Response by Jerry Rivas made Aug 5 at 2017 3:08 PM

Jerry Rivas — Sat, 05 Aug 2017 15:08:28 -0400

Did you read that stuff before you signed it? LOL, This will be taken into consideration by your next promotion board. Under Does candidate pay attention to details?. LOL

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 5 at 2017 3:32 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 05 Aug 2017 15:32:23 -0400

It's your responsibility to read your contract before you sign it. You should know that if you're reenlisting meaning you've already signed a contract before. You never take anyone else's "word" when it comes to your career.

Every time I have reenlisted I read through my contract before I signed it. Every time.

Response by COL William Oseles made Aug 5 at 2017 3:34 PM

COL William Oseles — Sat, 05 Aug 2017 15:34:52 -0400

If you did not read the contract you signed shame on you.
If they changed you contract contents after you signed it then that is Fraud.
If you checked the wrong box, live with it.

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 5 at 2017 8:17 PM

CW3 Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 05 Aug 2017 20:17:50 -0400

The Retention NCOs are under pressure from their CoC to keep numbers in. Don't think for one second that they won't mislead you. ALWAYS check that what they say is verified in writing before you sign your name. Don't worry about hurting their feelings by suggesting they're dishonest. If the contract matches what they say, they'll feel vindicated. If it doesn't match and you still sign it, you're in for a lot more than some hurt feelings.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 5 at 2017 10:38 PM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 05 Aug 2017 22:38:49 -0400

Career counselor much?

Response by MSG Dale Lee made Dec 21 at 2017 11:40 AM

MSG Dale Lee — Thu, 21 Dec 2017 11:40:32 -0500

I will say that before enlisting I was told by a friend, get everything in writing, and read it twice. Make sure you understand everything before you sign, or you lose all bargaining chips. I took that to heart! I got the best contract I could, and made sure I understood each word. Every word was true, and nothing was misrepresented by my recruiter, he did outstanding. The same held true for each of my reenlistments. I learned what the options were, what suited me best, and made sure I read each contract. I never once had a misrepresentation because I knew what I was signing. I taught all my soldiers the same, read those contracts, if you don't you can't complain. I served 24 years and your needs are not why the army needs you, make it fit so you benefit.

Response by SSG James Clark made Dec 21 at 2017 12:12 PM

SSG James Clark — Thu, 21 Dec 2017 12:12:45 -0500

Duty Honor Country is why you re enlist!
Everything else is a perk!
HOOAH!

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 22 at 2017 2:14 AM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 22 Dec 2017 02:14:17 -0500

My son transferred to Polk when he returned from Iraq but the unit was deployed to Afghanistan so he couldn't get what he wanted. So he worked out a trade with another unit and everything worked out for him.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 22 at 2017 10:00 AM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 22 Dec 2017 10:00:07 -0500

Simple answer. Talk to your S1. If you’re supposed to remain so you can drop a school packet, they can help get it fixed.

If, however, your paperwork doesn’t state that, then there is nothing they can do, and there’s no one to blame but yourself for not making sure, SGT.

Response by A1C Don Ducky Solt made Dec 22 at 2017 12:30 PM

A1C Don Ducky Solt — Fri, 22 Dec 2017 12:30:57 -0500

As every soldier, marine, airman it sailor knows from day one...the needs of your particular branch always comes first. You are government property for as long as you are "in" and they will do with you whatever they want.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 22 at 2017 1:48 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 22 Dec 2017 13:48:32 -0500

Despite the nay saying about your reenlistment story what your saying is not uncommon. Ive went in with Soldiers reenelisting trying to do the same thing only to have to correct the career counselor for making the soldier believe they would be stabilized longer. Its legal jargon some people don't get.... then you sign that spot saying you werent promised anything. It happens we all know it dont give the young NCO a hard time. I just ask pass the lesson on to your troops.

Response by SGT Ken Egan made Dec 23 at 2017 9:01 AM

SGT Ken Egan — Sat, 23 Dec 2017 09:01:44 -0500

Okay, let's see here. You're a SGT, you should know what the hell you're doing. Well at least I hope you are. It sounds like to me that you did not read your contract. For Christ sakes, you're suppose to be a NCO, so take some responsibility for your actions. You weren't lied too, you were just to damn lazy to read your contract. What, were you thinking that you would have a lower enlisted do that job for you? If I was your CO, I'd bust you down to a slick sleeve for being stupid. If you can't take the full responsibility to read a simple contract, you don't have the responsibility to lead troops.

Response by SGT Ken Egan made Dec 23 at 2017 9:07 AM

SGT Ken Egan — Sat, 23 Dec 2017 09:07:16 -0500

So F'ing glad I'm out.

Response by SFC Craig Starr made Dec 23 at 2017 10:14 AM

SFC Craig Starr — Sat, 23 Dec 2017 10:14:18 -0500

Sounds like you better get busy in your school packet.... if you re-enlisted, You have plenty of time...

Response by PV2 Duane Schlender made Dec 23 at 2017 1:11 PM

PV2 Duane Schlender — Sat, 23 Dec 2017 13:11:10 -0500

Eh hemm... "But sir... They didnt teach me contract law in highschool... Im not reaponsible for signing that legal document........"

Need I say more?
I knew what I was getting into when I joined the army. I also knew I wasnt getting everything I should. I didnt like it, but I knew.

If a 19 year old ignorant male from roseburg oregon can figure it out, anyone can. Otherwise they shouldnt be signing things without an intermediary. Which, btw, precludes them fromilitary service as they cant think for themselves, let alone think before they act.
I dont know about anyone else, but I wouldnt want to serve with anyone incapable of self motivation, self thought, etc.

Boils down to weak links in a chain. Intellect, physical fitness, esucation, rationale.... It all is needed for strong chains of readiness and unit cohesion.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 23 at 2017 5:02 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Sat, 23 Dec 2017 17:02:55 -0500

Ultimately yes it’s your responsibility. However a good not even great BN career counselor is also responsible to ensure everything is explained correctly and thoroughly and no questions are still left before raising your right hand.

Response by CPL Jerry R Brown made Dec 23 at 2017 8:25 PM

CPL Jerry R Brown — Sat, 23 Dec 2017 20:25:59 -0500

Response by PVT Mark Brown made Dec 23 at 2017 9:19 PM

PVT Mark Brown — Sat, 23 Dec 2017 21:19:59 -0500

Say "Oops! I changed my mind." Sounds like to Army way. Just kidding brother, I know this is a serious issue and don't mean to poke fun at you. Good Luck, Since it is your life can the Army not accommodate you occupational choice assuming you have adequate qualifications. When I was in I had 3 different MOSs but that was 50 years ago and everyone was basically 11B anyway.

Response by 1SG Jim Bishop made Dec 23 at 2017 10:27 PM

1SG Jim Bishop — Sat, 23 Dec 2017 22:27:31 -0500

First time: "D'oh". Second time: "Dammit". Third time: "Wait, oh crap, D'oh".

Response by SGT Chad Cherry made Dec 24 at 2017 12:16 AM

SGT Chad Cherry — Sun, 24 Dec 2017 00:16:53 -0500

I wish you the best, but tons of military members get hustled and told it's their faults. Is it right of course not, but the Army loves their actual slogan "Per the needs of the Army"... Sad actually.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 24 at 2017 8:08 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 24 Dec 2017 08:08:13 -0500

As a Non Commissioned officer you should know to pay attention to details. You have the contact you also have the area where the YOU, with your own hand write what the Army promises you. Non Commissioned Officers find solutions, they don't complain. So your research if you think something immoral, unethical, or illegal was done.

Response by SGT Randall Smith made Dec 24 at 2017 9:40 AM

SGT Randall Smith — Sun, 24 Dec 2017 09:40:19 -0500

At my last station I was made re-enlistment NCO. I think because I was the new guy. Wasn't bad, when all the crap from TET was over got to go to Bn for a week of training. I only promised the men two things. 1. Their VRB money AND 2. The got to keep wearing green. They wanted Germany, England,the States no problem. They wanted the assignment for 4 years, now there was a problem. I would remind them of what they were told in Basic, " if the Army wanted you to have a wife, it would issue you one." Whatever the Army wanted, is what you got. Anyone in long enough to re-up knew how it worked and should expect no supprises.

Response by MSG Robert Mills made Dec 24 at 2017 5:48 PM

MSG Robert Mills — Sun, 24 Dec 2017 17:48:00 -0500

Lied is a strong term, misinformed and also do your duty is another. The premise of your owed something for your continued service is at best self serving and not in line with Army Values. We all get assignements not to our liking or wants, so be it, do your Duty, are you a soldier or a employee?

Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 24 at 2017 9:13 PM

SPC Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 24 Dec 2017 21:13:55 -0500

When I reenlisted not only was I lied to. I was supposed to sign a 3 year contract and ended up being a 4 year one. I was also allowed to sign all my paperwork the same day that I had a surgery that I was under anesthesia for. I was in no shape to read or sign any paperwork but they were in such a hurry and said it had to be signed that day. Being young and stupid, as well as high off my butt since I just had surgery I didn't clearly read everything, but hay what do you do. Thanks to a shitty NCO for screwing me over.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 24 at 2017 11:12 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 24 Dec 2017 23:12:31 -0500

First, read and clarify what you don't understand before you sign anything. Second, as noted before, stabilization is only 1-12 months at current station, then it is as needed, which means you can be reassigned to whereever the army needs you.

Response by 1SG Patrick Sims made Dec 25 at 2017 8:12 AM

1SG Patrick Sims — Mon, 25 Dec 2017 08:12:47 -0500

When you sign s contract with the U.S. military you have to understand something, you're not joining the Salvation Army. You could be sent anywhere at anytime, its just the nature of being in a military service. If you don't like it, by all means move on.

Response by SP5 Gary Smith made Dec 25 at 2017 1:41 PM

SP5 Gary Smith — Mon, 25 Dec 2017 13:41:46 -0500

I should have re-enlisted

Response by Sgt Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 25 at 2017 8:50 PM

Sgt Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 25 Dec 2017 20:50:07 -0500

Bro, you're a Sgt that doesn't understand that you are responsible for your career, and that the military can send you where they need you. My suggestion? Suck it up, act like an NCO for a minute, and be a leader.

Response by CPL Jo Ann Hubbart made Dec 26 at 2017 9:04 AM

CPL Jo Ann Hubbart — Tue, 26 Dec 2017 09:04:57 -0500

I was able to have my contract amended. I was living in Europe when I enlisted, with an address in Austria, which became my home of record. This meant that upon ETS my household goods and vehicle were not eligible for shipment back to the US. Thankfully, I had an awesome NCO who helped me get the contract amended to the state in which I was born and had, luckily, filed state taxes in each year. I implied no malice on my recruiters part in my request. It was an oversight to arrange transport CONUS for OSUT, and lack of understanding of the implications on my part. I am very grateful to all who were involved in helping me sort out this issue, and I learned a great deal about contracts in the process!

Response by SSG Lloyd Becker BSBA-HCM, MBA made Dec 26 at 2017 1:36 PM

SSG Lloyd Becker BSBA-HCM, MBA — Tue, 26 Dec 2017 13:36:16 -0500

Needs of the Army was not around when I was in. Whatever you reenlisted for you got it. Go to Germany for 3 years, home on leave, contract portion completed for Germany. Rest of the time, enjoy the world, complements of the US Army.

Response by CW3 Doyle Frost made Dec 26 at 2017 1:41 PM

CW3 Doyle Frost — Tue, 26 Dec 2017 13:41:53 -0500

Talk to your "First Shirt" and see what comes out of that. They might be able to help you get an assignment you like better than the one you actually received. Chain of command can often times be your friend, as long as you are willing to listen and learn.

Response by SPC Patrick Bourcier made Dec 26 at 2017 9:59 PM

SPC Patrick Bourcier — Tue, 26 Dec 2017 21:59:05 -0500

Outside of failing a drug test? Probably not. But, I would always consider speaking with my Commanding Officer and openly discuss your concern and ask for His/her suggestions. If your CO is a truly good Officer, He/She will be Honest and candid and possibly guide you to resolution. Just be ready for news either way.

Response by SPC Steven Depuy made Mar 10 at 2019 1:21 PM

SPC Steven Depuy — Sun, 10 Mar 2019 13:21:30 -0400

If its not in writing, it most likely won't happen is the issue. Recruiters and Re-enlistment NCO's have quota's, I know its been 40 years since my days working in the Brigade Re-enlistment Office, but I suspect things are pretty much the same. You don't meet the quota they give you, you lose your cushy position, end up in Hoenfelds in the middle of winter, instead of sipping hot coffee and playing cards with the other NCO's in my office.

Response by SSG Daniel Brewster made Mar 10 at 2019 11:05 PM

SSG Daniel Brewster — Sun, 10 Mar 2019 23:05:35 -0400

So, it’s maddening how RallyPoint resurrects these threads that are a year or two old, but it did remind me of my first experience with orders from Uncle Sam.

My recruiter talked up Europe big time - beer, girls, weekend off, etc. I was gonna sign up anyway, but Germany did sound pretty cool to a young 18 year old private. I finish up infantry school at Fort Benning and get my orders to Alaska. What? That’s pretty damn far from Germany. Now I’m a cocky little E1, but I know I’m right. I go find my drill sergeant and say, “Drill Sgt, there’s a problem with my orders.” Without even looking up, he drawls, “son, there’s no problem with your orders”. I’m like, “I’m supposed to go to Germany, I’m not going to Alaska.” He looks up at me and says, “oh, you’re going to Alaska”. And, ahah, I thought - ace card! “No, Drill Sgt, this has to be a mistake - I have guaranteed orders for overseas”, I said in a tone that just knew I was smarter than he.

He laughs and tells me that the Army considered Alaska overseas, so I should just go get on the bus.

Lol. As an aside, I had a blast in Alaska.

Response by Cpl Benjamin Long made Mar 11 at 2019 8:39 AM

Cpl Benjamin Long — Mon, 11 Mar 2019 08:39:39 -0400

file a lawsuit... deceptive contracts violate contract law

Response by SP5 Gary Smith made Jul 22 at 2019 6:26 PM

SP5 Gary Smith — Mon, 22 Jul 2019 18:26:08 -0400

You reup at your own peril. Didn’t take me long to know that the army will screw you if it can. Trust no one!

Response by Cpl Ryan King made Jul 24 at 2019 10:30 AM

Cpl Ryan King — Wed, 24 Jul 2019 10:30:47 -0400

Direct answer is no

Response by Cpl Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 25 at 2019 12:00 PM

Cpl Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 25 Jul 2019 12:00:26 -0400

What I have been told because I have recently put in a re-enlistment package and I’m thinking about changing my orders after I already put the MCC codes for the orders I want is, if approved and you want orders changed from the orders you requested, you can contact the monitor and request a change. I don’t know how the army works with order changes but if you guys have something along those lines, try talking to the person that makes the orders

Response by SSG Kenneth Ponder made Feb 5 at 2020 6:44 PM

SSG Kenneth Ponder — Wed, 05 Feb 2020 18:44:14 -0500

Mine was easy. When it came time to reenlist, I extended 18 months in Korea.
Time to reup again, asked for another 18 months, it was denied. Asked for an exception to policy from DA, they granted it. Time to reup, I said no, offered me additional 18 months. Said I'd stay for COG 2yrs it turned into 2yrs 6 months. 9 1/2 yrs USArmy still a first termers. Gotta love it!