Can I use an ACFT from the SQI4 school house as a record ACFT? If so, what regulation covers this?

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 07 Jun 2023 09:06:55 -0400

It also said in the welcome letter that the ACFT at the school house would be a record. My command is trying to tell me that it's commanders discretion if they will accept it. So I need reg that says that is our is not the case.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 7 at 2023 9:33 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 07 Jun 2023 09:33:21 -0400

All orders sate "You are responsible for reporting to your next duty station or school in satisfactory condition, able to pass the ACFT and meet weight standards". They can give you a record ACFT as soon as you arrive to your unit.

Response by COL Randall C. made Jun 7 at 2023 1:44 PM

COL Randall C. — Wed, 07 Jun 2023 13:44:50 -0400

SGT Private RallyPoint Member - You've already been instructed by your welcome letter that you would be required to take one. You already were instructed by your command that it's up to the discretion of the schoolhouse. I'm not really sure what the confusion is.

However, I'll try to address it completely to clear up any that remains.

Your command is correct. It is up to the schoolhouse if they want to accept it or not and most will not unless there is an unusual circumstance involved. AR 350-1 and TRADOC regulation 350-18 haven't been updated yet to reflect the ACFT, so all the language still says APFT.

By TRADOC policy/regulation*, if it is more than 60 days prior to the start of the school, you WILL take a record fitness test. If it is within 60 days, it is not required by regulation. However, the proponent of the course can absolutely require you to take another fitness test upon arrival.

Per AR 350-1, Soldiers attending the following PME schools and courses: SSC, USASMA, Joint Special Operation Forces Senior Enlisted Academy (JSOFSEA), CCC, CGSOC, WOAC, WOILE, WOSSE, NLC, ALC, SLC, MLC, and BLC, will be administered the APFT (for record) as a course requirement. Proponents of functional training courses may require an APFT, as either an entrance or graduation requirement, regardless of their length.

So, if you are going to any of the courses mentioned, you absolutely will take a record ACFT. If the proponent requires one as a course requirement, you absolutely will take a record ACFT. This is regardless if you have a current record ACFT or not.

Now, if what you're referring to is your comment back to SFC Private RallyPoint Member below asking if there is anything saying ACFTs can be record for the Reserve Component, then that's in Army Directive 2022-05* which says the diagnostic window for the RC was 1 APR 22 - 31 MAR 23 and that starting 1 APR 23 they will start taking record tests (and will have one prior to 1 APR 24).
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* AR 350-1 - https://armypubs.army.mil/epubs/DR_pubs/DR_a/pdf/web/ARN18487_R350_1_Admin_FINAL.pdf
* TR 350-18 - https://adminpubs.tradoc.army.mil/regulations/TR350-18.pdf
* Army Direction 2022-05 (Army Combat Fitness Test) - https://armypubs.army.mil/epubs/DR_pubs/DR_a/ARN35052-ARMY_DIR_2022-05-000-WEB-1.pdf

ARN18487_R350_1_Admin_FINAL.pdf